Republican presidential candidate John McCain announced his vice presidential running mate yesterday, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, 44.
Casey Mayville reports for Government Technology, “Elected governor in 2006, Palin became Alaska’s first female governor, as well as its youngest. She will be the first politician from Alaska to run on a national ticket in a campaign for vice president.”
“Palin has made efforts to expand the use of technology in Alaska. In 2007, Palin announced a new online training program for workforce development. The Work Ready/College Ready program helped to assess skills and offered training courses,” Mayville reports. “‘The skills needed to enter many vocations are similar to the skills needed to get into college,’ explained Palin at the time. ‘Work Ready/College Ready lets students know what level of skill they need for the occupations they’re interested in, how well they match up in those skill levels and it provides training to reach their goals.'”
Full article here.
More about Alaska’s “Work Ready/College Ready” program that was announced by Sarah Palin last August via GovTech here.
Carrie Tait reports for The Financial Post,” Ms. Palin, 44, is a lifetime NRA member who is in charge of a conservative state. She’s bullish on drilling offshore and opening up more of the contentious Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to exploration and production. ‘People are realizing, too, there’s been some deception, I think, from some on what ANWR is all about. Of the 20 million acres up there, we’re looking at 2,000 acres as a footprint,’ she said in the interview. ‘With new technology, with directional drilling, maybe that footprint [will] shrink even more.'”
MacDailyNews Note: CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo talks with Sarah Palin about ANWR drilling, which also touches on technology, in an 11:41 video interview here.
Stefanie Olsen reports for CNET, “Mead Treadwell, a technology-focused venture capitalist and chair of the U.S. Arctic Research Commission, a federal advisory commission to President Bush and Congress on Arctic research issues, said he met Palin when she was the mayor of Wasilla, a small town in Alaska. Treadwell said that she has long been open-minded about the need for technology to solve problems.”
“‘We’re a natural energy economy and you can’t drill on- or offshore without bringing the best technology, like 3D seismic technology to find areas for drilling, directional drilling to exploit it, and satellites. She’s supportive of new tech,’ Treadwell said,” Olsen reports.
“Palin’s father-in-law was at one time staff officer at the Alaska Science and Technology Foundation, the state’s seed capital fund for technology. According to Treadwell, she was critical of her incumbent Republican rival Frank Murkowski in 2006 when he shut the foundation down. In her inaugural address as governor, she emphasized the value of research into science and technology,” Olsen reports.
“Despite Alaska’s absence of a big tech industry, the state’s chief industries, oil and gas, as well as some telecommunications, require cutting-edge technology. Treadwell said that in discussions with Palin about balancing development vs. the environment, she typically points to technology as a solution,” Olsen reports.
Full article here.
While we’re still exploring exactly which tech devices Palin uses currently, Bridget Carey reported yesterday for The Miami Herald of “the BlackBerry-wielding Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who had bloggers buzzing early Friday about her tech-centric lifestyle. She’s also three years younger than Obama.”
MacDailyNews Take: Send Palin an iPhone immediately, Apple!
As for Obama’s V.P. pick, Joseph Biden, 65, Carey reports, “The technology issue isn’t so much of his wired lifestyle as it is about his past stances on technology issues like Internet freedom and privacy. Biden has spoken out against peer-to-peer networks that allow the sharing of music and other copyrighted material. On the topic of Internet privacy, he is in favor of allowing communications companies to hand over a user’s personal information to the government, but with the intention to crack down on child porn and piracy.”
Full article here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Readers “Michael R.,” “Dennis,” and “Jen” for the heads up.]
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You guys are so awesome, really.
This is a cool, though sometimes nasty little debate.
My main point of contention on the Palin choice is what it shows us of McCain’s decision making process.
It was a very quick and political decision.
It has been a short term success.
What do we know of Obama?
Just how he handles himself and his campaign.
McCain voters will choose him for 1 of 2 reasons:
1: He is John McCain
2: He is not Barack Obama
The same is true of Barry O (I’m calling him “Barry O” from now on because it reassuringly more American)
Now let us all agree that one of these two arrogant buffoons is going to be our president in a very short time and will be piloting the ship of state through some very perilous waters.
Both have promised to deliver us a politics, not as usual approach to governing. A bi-partisan solution is on the table. Let us not squander this in the aftermath of this election from either side. No matter who wins this, we should hold their feet to the fire on their campaign promises to deliver us from the ridiculous smallness of political divisiveness, Amen.
The problem with comparing civil rights of interracial marriage, and abortion, is there is not a potential human life at stake.
Depending on when you consider human life to start, and frankly conception is at least a logical choice, it can be fairly considered murder.
I get what you’re saying that some things courts need to decide when the public can’t be fairly expected to consider, but how are you going to feel if a very conservative Supreme court starts deciding on laws that you don’t agree with? This matter can go both ways. I’d trust a court that was more conservative with how it interpreted the constitution rather than one that was more broad.
While the decision to allow interracial couples isn’t terribly controversial today, Abortion is. There is a reason for this.
Always Right: “Where’s twilightmoon? Out of gas?”
Hi.
(That’s sadly the only part of your post worth commenting on.)
twilight – this has already happened. IMHO the most extreme and horrific act of real “judicial activism” of my lifetime was the 2000 decision in Bush v. Gore (where the court proclaimed GW Bush President). And I think the real activism case can be made here because the court *itself* acknowledged its outlandishness because the ruling stated that it was never be used as precedent for any other decision. That has never happened before in the whole history of the Supreme Court, all the way back to this nation’s founding!!
The only reason interracial couples, etc. aren’t considered controversial is because of the passage of time, and people have become acclimated to the sense of it. The same will happen with gay marriage, when people realize that heterosexual marriages aren’t spontaneously dissolving and people aren’t suddenly turning gay. The same will happen with abortion. I like the take of Florynce Kennedy, “If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.”
What about the death penalty? If murder is so terrible for an insensate clump of undifferentiated cells, how can it be OK for a fully formed and sensate human being?
ccap1: “My main point of contention on the Palin choice is what it shows us of McCain’s decision making process.
It was a very quick and political decision.”
Hard to know how long McCain considered this decision, all we hear are rumors, which I’m not sure how much I can trust those. She seems like a decent and real person to me.
What’s interesting is that liberals tend to not like her, conservatives really like her, and people in the middle don’t really seem to care either way. So politically, it cost McCain nothing, his base his happy, liberals who never would have voted for him aren’t a factor, and people in the middle don’t seem to be put off by her. If he picks up a few extra women for choosing her that’s a bonus.
“No matter who wins this, we should hold their feet to the fire on their campaign promises to deliver us from the ridiculous smallness of political divisiveness, Amen.”
I actually like political contention. It serves several purposes. First it keeps government from doing *too much* which is good in my book, second it requires any side to justify when they want to do anything spend any money, raise any tax, or add any new restrictions on people’s lives.
Second, it’s phony to expect people with very different beliefs as to what should happen to the country and who are elected to enact a certain agenda are all going to get along and sing campfire songs.
“IMHO the most extreme and horrific act of real “judicial activism” of my lifetime was the 2000 decision in Bush v. Gore”
Meh, its very minor compared to Roe vs Wade.
“The same will happen with abortion.”
Says you, hasn’t happened so far. Don’t expect it will.
“insensate clump of undifferentiated cells”
Wow, no wonder you call pro unborn lifers “anti-choice” could you possibly be more insensitive?
twilightmoon, you are mixed up.
Do you have any idea how a blastocyst develops? When an egg is first fertilized it is a “stem cell”, a cell which has no set function (it could become a nerve, a muscle, a liver cell, etc.) It undergoes meiosis and divides and for the first several score divisions there is no differentiation of the cells into body parts. They are UNDIFFERENTIATED. And since no nerves have formed (indeed NO body parts have formed because the cells haven’t decided what to become yet), there are, necessarily INSENSATE. I have used these words very technically and precisely, and you have gone off and accused me of being “insensitive” again.
You’re providing a perfect example of why serious discussion of this issue is so difficult in the absence of real science. If people will insist that the moment an egg is fertilized it is no different than a fully formed adult human, that is based solely on religious conviction and not on any understanding of scientific evidence.
Also another example of framing: you clearly buy the frame that from the moment of conception “it’s a BABY!” and any discussion which doesn’t proceed from the underlying assumptions of that frame is “insensitive”.
Twilightmoon, it’s me, Hardy Har Har. I see you’ve been on that favorite exercise machine of the Republicants: the back-pedal machine! LOL!
So you respect other people’s opinion even if you don’t agree with it and can do so without bashing, eh? Let me remind you of your comment to my post a few days ago:
“Hardy Har Har: “I’ll not comment again until January and we’ll see if any of you are still pounding your chest”
Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out!
Bye.”
Mind you, I never singled out any particular individual on this forum with my comment but you came looking for me.
Now you say that the Democrats and others on this board are smearing what should be a personal matter for the Palin family. I call bullshizz! The RepubliNazi’s have consistently and historically said teen pregnancy is a problem of the ‘morally corrupt’, the ‘morally bankrupt’, the ‘godless’, the ‘uneducated’, the ‘lower socio-economic segments of our country, ‘minorities’, even calling it ‘an urban problem not reflective of mainstream, morally upright America’. That this is mostly an issue of single-parent homes where the father is absent and homes that don’t put God first. Such comments have been handed out from the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter and Pat Robertson.
So let me ask you. Which of those colorful descriptions of the problem of teen pregnancy would you say the Palins fall under?
You see, if the ‘so-far-right-they’re-running in circles’ would stop being so condescending and all high and mighty they would have found out that NORMALLY this would not be an issue about ‘throwing stones’ but an opportunity to work on a problem that plagues ALL of America.
Frankly, it again shows a lack of judgment on the part of McCain’t because he should have known about it. If he knew about it and neglected to mention it (in effect, trying to hide it) it goes to the issue of character. Obama might not have said that but you know what? I will.
The Republicant spin machine is in full force. Poor Sarah and her family are ‘being picked on by the evil Democrats.’ ‘The evil Democrats will stoop to no low to go after her because she’s a woman.’
What’s evil is that the Republicants continue to insist that Obama is a Muslim when they know he isn’t. What’s evil is that the Republicants always play a divisive game where preying on old stereotypes is OK. Need I remind you that it’s always the Republicants that play the race card: just as they did when Harold Ford was running for Senator in Tennessee.
I’ll hold the door open for you so it doesn’t hit you on the way in because I know you’ll deny/spin/bash my comments, you’re that predictable.
“You’re providing a perfect example of why serious discussion of this issue is so difficult in the absence of real science. If people will insist that the moment an egg is fertilized it is no different than a fully formed adult human, that is based solely on religious conviction and not on any understanding of scientific evidence.
Also another example of framing: you clearly buy the frame that from the moment of conception “it’s a BABY!” and any discussion which doesn’t proceed from the underlying assumptions of that frame is “insensitive”.”
I don’t consider a fertilized egg to be the same as a fully formed human being, but we’re not merely talking about conception or a few days or weeks after that point when we’re discussing abortion. By the time abortions are performed the are not “insensate clump of undifferentiated cells”, this is why that comes across as insensitive. If we were talking about birth control and whether forms of birth control that work after an egg is fertilized then that term might be appropriate but that’s not the topic we were discussing.
I buy that some people can fairly argue that a fertilized egg cell is a human being. I respect that view, even if I don’t necessarily hold it myself.
Sarah Palin has had more executive experience than either Kennedy or Lincoln had at the time of their elections. This has nothing to do with Rove and political infighting. McCain had long interviews, extensive vetting and none of the others were nearly as qualified to be Vice President of the U.S. as Sarah Palin.
“Now you say that the Democrats and others on this board are smearing what should be a personal matter for the Palin family. I call bullshizz! The RepubliNazi’s have consistently and historically said teen pregnancy is a problem of the ‘morally corrupt’, the ‘morally bankrupt’, the ‘godless’, the ‘uneducated’,”
Are you saying that they are not? Certainly some are, and it’s frankly pretty sad. I don’t think it’s just Democrats tho, I’m sure plenty of conservatives and Republicans have chimed in too.
My point was if the media plans to give Palin’s daughter the same respect they gave to Chelsea or the because Palin is a Republican her daughter won’t get the same respectful treatment.
“The Republicant spin machine is in full force. Poor Sarah and her family are ‘being picked on by the evil Democrats.’ ‘The evil Democrats will stoop to no low to go after her because she’s a woman.’ “
Politics is spin, and this happens on both sides. But forget politics and Dem vs Repub for a second, do you think it’s right to be shoving a camera in the face of a 17 year old who made a mistake and got herself pregnant out of wedlock? Is that how you wish all 17 year old pregnant teens to be treated in this country?
“I’ll hold the door open for you so it doesn’t hit you on the way in because I know you’ll deny/spin/bash my comments, you’re that predictable.”
I didn’t see anything to bash that time. Try again.
So, still feeling comfortable with your pretty preachy VP pick? I guess she was just too busy looking out for her constituents to notice that her “abstinent” daughter just got knocked up by some local Yob?
All that preaching about abstinence and burning in hell and not one moment to explain the facts of life to her daughter? What kind of VP is this woman going to make? Spends more time looking after her career than looking after her family. Some role model.
And by the way, while she’s busy looking after 5 kids and a pregnant daughter, just when is she going to run the country?
calling conservatives “dipshits” in the next.
“All that preaching about abstinence and burning in hell and not one moment to explain the facts of life to her daughter?”
Don’t you have a church to go burn down somewhere?
“And by the way, while she’s busy looking after 5 kids and a pregnant daughter, just when is she going to run the country?”
Sexism is alive and well in this country.
Wow! Twilightmoon you really can talk without going personal. You’ve just earned my respect.
Point is that many in America have said the same thing for a long time. Stop shoving the mic in the face of the child and let’s come together as a nation to try and solve a problem that can touch anyone. Let’s stop blaming and pointing fingers and offer suggestions and solutions.
Let’s stop blaming homeowners as the primary cause of the housing crisis because the fact of the matter is that it was the greed of the banks and/or their loan officers trying to collect a fat commission and then selling the loans to the goverment or other unsuspecting banks that is the TRUE root of the problem. The last I heard, someone was supposed to show PROOF of income to qualify for a loan, not just put down a figure. Banks have access to a person’s credit history and now they want you to believe that a person who hasn’t made more than $40,000 in the last five years ‘conned’ them out of a loan for a $300,000 home.
There are real issues to be solved and blaming American citizens for not having ‘personal responsibility’ or for not having ‘high moral values’ as the root of the decline of our country is insane.
Let’s talk about how the American auto industry wants to blame the public’s perception of the ‘American’ automobile, the ‘lack of a skilled workforce’, or ‘lower labor costs’ of the competition as the reason why jobs are leaving this country. The last time I checked, while GM and Ford are closing plants in this country and taking the jobs outside of the US the competition (Toyota/Nissan/Honda) are BUILDING and EXPANDING plants in the U.S. using the same workforce that ‘American’ car makers can’t seem to make headway with. More to the point, any car BUILT IN AMERICA is an American car REGARDLESS OF THE NAMEPLATE. Any car built outside the US is an import.
Yeah, that’s right.
Republiscams are fulla shit.
How can we have a VP who’s OWN DAUGHTER is pregnant OUT OF WEDLOCK?
What kind of FAMILY VALUES are those?
no, not sexism my friend, reality!
Why don’t you go ahead and tell me how to raise a truck load of kids, one with special needs and a pregnant daughter. Oh and just for kicks, let’s have you be vice president of the greatest country in the world.
This used to be a tech blog, but it’s disintegrated into a useless partisan vehicle for the GOP. Who would have thought that MacDailyNews would champion this idiot as a savior for technology. Did anyone on the editorial board actually look at her record?
This woman is not qualified to be our vice president. This is an absolute embarasment for women, the United States and John McCane. It represents the further dumbing down of America.
To think that putting up a pretty woman to run as Vice President would placate the Far Right, the Neocons, the Evangelicals, the horny toothless men with worn-out palms, the possible undecided is one thing, but to think that you will win over Hillary Clinton Democrats is something else. No Hillary supporting Democrat in their right mind would vote for this Gun-Toting, shoot-the-animals-from-your-helicopter, moose eating sycophant who doesn’t have a clue about Darwinism or the fact that contraception prevents unwanted pregnancies. Nor would they possibly vote for someone so egotistical enough to put her career first and not pay attention to her own children. You never saw anything like this with Chelsea Clinton.
America Wake Up.
Seen from the outside (remember, there are few billions non-american out there!) this 2 parties thing is very strange and tricky… No real choice for you. Wether you like wars and you’ll go for McCain or you’ll try to be open minded and vote for the first non-white US president… But what will it change if the system itself and the real masters in the shadow aren’t replaced?
“You’re providing a perfect example of why serious discussion of this issue is so difficult in the absence of real science. If people will insist that the moment an egg is fertilized it is no different than a fully formed adult human, that is based solely on religious conviction and not on any understanding of scientific evidence.”
Then when do you draw the line. Genetically the child’s makeup and therefore a large percentage of the characteristics any eventual child will have are completely determined at that point.
Is it the “Same” as a child? probably not. But can that embryo grow into a child? Sure. Therefore it is distinctly scientifically different from the separate sperm and egg which existed seconds before. There doesn’t seem to be any later point during development which is scientifically as dramatic or determinative.
So while I would respect a woman’s right to chose, to convince her that it’s “just bunch of undifferentiated cells” is disingenuous. It is clear that something more than a few excess body cells is being disposed of.
But is a 22 week old foetus the “Same” as a child? It’s much closer and at that point have survived independent of the mother.
At this point both sides agree there is a dividing line. Few would vote to abort a 8.5 month old foetus.
Roe V Wade and subsequently Casey v Planned Parenthood are a lot about balancing the rights of the mother vs the rights of the child. It says in effect that up to a certain point the mother can favor her rights over that of the foetus. After that point the foetus’s rights prevail.
The only argument is where that dividing line lies. Today it lies with “Viability”, and that threshold is being pushed back earlier and earlier.
Science is likely to shatter this debate, because before this century ends, artificial womb technology will bring viability to the point immediately after conception, certainly to the point where most women realize that they are pregnant, thereby allowing the respecting of both the rights of the foetus and those of the mother.
At that point the argument will shift to whether a mother can abort for convenience.
If anything pro-lifers should be pouring thier efforts into sex education and contraception education (to avoid the moral question arising in the first place) and reproductive research as a backstop, knowing those things are what will eventually end any need for anything but convenience based abortions.
“Let’s stop blaming homeowners as the primary cause of the housing crisis because the fact of the matter is that it was the greed of the banks and/or their loan officers trying to collect a fat commission and then selling the loans to the goverment or other unsuspecting banks that is the TRUE root of the problem.”
Blame is at least 50/50 here, not all loans defaults were the fault of greedy and irresponsible lenders, the home owners share the blame too, and many were entirely to blame, this is likely more of a case by case situation.
“There are real issues to be solved and blaming American citizens for not having ‘personal responsibility’ or for not having ‘high moral values’ as the root of the decline of our country is insane.”
That’s too general of a statement to really comment on, but Americans have always valued personal freedom and achievement, where Europe values community more.
“Let’s talk about how the American auto industry wants to blame the public’s perception of the ‘American’ automobile, the ‘lack of a skilled workforce’, or ‘lower labor costs’ of the competition as the reason why jobs are leaving this country.”
GM has some serious problems with union contracts that allow people to retire early with nearly full retirement pay. There needs to be a balance between union contracts and the profit a company makes. I don’t say this to dump on unions, but if you depend on a company making money for your retirement, its not in your self interest to drive them to bankruptcy to pay your benefits, because then you’ll get nothing. GM makes some decent cars, my dad drives a suburban, but you have to do more than make good products, you need to sell them at a profit.
I own and drive a Toyota Camry, but I have nothing against American cars. I would drive one if I felt it was superior to what I own and drive now.
“no, not sexism my friend, reality!”
Sexism because you discount the role her husband could play in raising the kids. My brother raises his son without much help from the mom. It is possible for men to be involved in this process, just fyi.
“This used to be a tech blog, but it’s disintegrated into a useless partisan vehicle for the GOP.”
One thread out of how many? You don’t want to discuss politics, I can post you some links to other threads if you are unable to find them by yourself.
“This woman is not qualified to be our vice president. This is an absolute embarasment for women, the United States and John McCane. It represents the further dumbing down of America.”
You’re welcome to your opinion, but it’s nothing more than that. Plenty disagree with you in fact.
” No Hillary supporting Democrat in their right mind would vote for this Gun-Toting, shoot-the-animals-from-your-helicopter, moose eating sycophant who doesn’t have a clue about Darwinism or the fact that contraception prevents unwanted pregnancies”
You’re on a roll here, keep talking.
Interesting the sort of prejudice and rudeness that flows easily from liberals who cry in their beers about racism, and sexism, and other isms..
So I guess being rude and disrespectful to people is ok if you’re the one doing it, is that how this works?
@ Twilightmoon
Aw c’mon! You were doing so well not long ago. I’m going to have to take back the respect points I gave you.
“Blame is at least 50/50 here, not all loans defaults were the fault of greedy and irresponsible lenders, the home owners share the blame too, and many were entirely to blame, this is likely more of a case by case situation.”
While I don’t dispute that there were INDIVIDUALS who took advantage of the situation, to assign them even 50% blame for the problem is insulting. Whenever there is a systematic collapse of ANY institution/organization the first place to look to lay blame is at the hands of those in control (the gatekeepers). Due diligence on each and every loan application would have prevented the monumental collapse we have witnessed and would have EXPOSED those trying to defraud the system. There has been case after case after documented case where documents were forged AFTER the fact of the applicant signing off on the loan where income was ‘misrepresented’. I will confidently state that after thorough examination for every SINGLE individual found to have committed fraud, there are at a minimum TWICE as many loan officers/specialists who did the same.
I wonder about your age and question your experience of this phenomenon because this is nothing but a repeat of the savings and loan crisis of the 80’s but on a larger scale. This by the way was a situation in which John McCain played a central role. In both instances, the problems were a result of a loosening of regulation standards shoveled through Washington at the hands of the Republicans.
“GM has some serious problems with union contracts that allow people to retire early with nearly full retirement pay. There needs to be a balance between union contracts and the profit a company makes. I don’t say this to dump on unions, but if you depend on a company making money for your retirement, its not in your self interest to drive them to bankruptcy to pay your benefits, because then you’ll get nothing. GM makes some decent cars, my dad drives a suburban, but you have to do more than make good products, you need to sell them at a profit.”
GM is no different than our own government. Or have you forgotten (or did not know) that during the 80’s they passed a bill that no longer required them to vote on accepting a 5% salary increase on a yearly basis but now requires them to vote on a yearly basis IF AND ONLY IF they want to REFUSE the increase. Let’s not even mention the fact that they gave themselves an increase WITHOUT the permission of the people they serve. A government of, for and by the people didn’t even get a chance to voice their objection to it.
Congressmen and senators also voted themselves FULL lifetime medical care when they retire at the expense of the American people (yes, that’s right we continue to pay the health care bill of Newt Gingrich and Patrick Leahy) as well as retirement pay equal to the FULL salary they were making in their final year of service.
All of this without the permission of the American people. Republicans are always so fast to say government should get out of the pocketbooks of Americans while doing nothing about the excesses of public servants. All of this took place while Republicans had majority control of the House and Senate and while Reagan presided over the White House. I will be the first to admit however that the Democrats put up feeble resistance (at best) to any of this.
Wanna talk about health care? The Clintons went into the White House with an agenda to reform health care because they had the foresight to see the problems we are experiencing today. The Republicans went on the offensive with the backing of the insurance industry and parties lobbying on behalf of hospitals to say that Americans don’t need the government meddling with Americans health care because it would limit choice. Today with have less choice than in 1992 at much, much higher costs. Looks like it turns out the Clintons were right.
Rush Limbaugh was famous for calling female admirers/supporters of Hillary Clinton “Feminazi’s” but when McLame picks a female VP candidate in a pathetic effort to court these supporters all of a sudden the Far Wrong gets a hard-on in delusional anticipation of pulling these “Feminazi’s” over to the RepubliCant side.
‘That’s too general of a statement to really comment on, but Americans have always valued personal freedom and achievement, where Europe values community more.’
Have I been specific on enough issues now?
Correction:
“I will confidently state that after thorough examination for every SINGLE individual found to have committed fraud, there are at a minimum TWICE as many loan officers/specialists who did the same.”
That should read: There will be TWICE as many INSTANCES where loan officers/specialists did the same.
Explain something, how can you be Pro-Life but Pro-War and Pro-NRA?