Desperate Microsoft to count Windows XP sales as Vista sales

“InfoWorld confirms that Dell will sell and support Windows XP to consumers beyond the June 30 Microsoft sales cutoff date that Microsoft reaffirmed today, after comments from CEO Steve Ballmer yesterday seemingly indicated it might reconsider that decision,” Ephraim Schwartz reports for InfoWorld.

“Dell will take advantage of a licensing option in Vista Business and Vista Ultimate that lets PC makers provide XP under the Vista license, which Microsoft calls a ‘downgrade’ license. (Enterprises with site licenses have these same rights with any version of Vista.) In essence, the user is buying a Vista license that it can apply to XP, and Microsoft can still claim a Vista sale,” Schwartz reports.

“The computers available with the XP option will include the Windows Vista installation DVD in the box so users can later install Vista over XP under the same license if they wish,” Schwartz reports.

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “MacVicta” for the heads up.]

So, Dell sells with PCs with Windows XP, throws the unwanted Vista DVD in the box, and Microsoft pretends they’re Vista sales? Now that’s desperation. And, another thing: the ancient Windows XP sucks, too. That it’s the best Dell and all of the other PC box assemblers can offer is just pitiful. Get a Mac.


  1. ” I’d like to be the presenter who asks Ballmer that question on TV.”

    Oh, there are a lot of questions I’d like to ask Monkey-boy on TV. Things like “why do you want to blow billions of dollars of your shareholder’s money on efforts that have no hope of ever going profitable? Is it some kind of ego thing, or are you just bloody stupid?”


  2. Mossman…

    I doubt very much that it violates anything.

    If the OEM license fee is the same whether it’s a Windows XP machine or a Vista machine, it doesn’t make any difference to the investor community. Even if it did, all MSFT would have to do is alter their reporting so it read as something like “Windows Vista-equivalent licenses” and they’d be covered.

    In reality, this is rather like an addict not admitting that they have a problem and – as far as I’m concerned – the longer MSFT chooses to ignore and obfuscate on the reality of Vista’s failure, the better it is for Apple.

    Here’s my take, which some might find a little strict…

    Fsck Microsoft – convicted monoppoly abusers who have no conscience and – even last year – conspired with another company (sadly a partner of Apple Inc.) to wilfully deceive customers with regards to the suitability of systems that would run Vista at an acceptable level.

    Fsck Microsoft’s PC customer base: if, after all these years and all the broken promises, you’re still committed to the MSFT monoculture, you are nothing less than an idiot or a fool. Wake up and smell the coffee – these people see you as cash cow to be abused whenever possible.

    Fsck MSFT’s shareholders: you’re an enabler to a company that treats its customers with absolute contempt. In a just world, you’d lose all your money tomorrrow morning.

  3. Interesting… Microsoft and Dell, copying Apple again. Many years ago (before Mac OS X 10.2), Apple installed Mac OS 9 by default and included Mac OS X “in the box” as the option.

    “Desperation” is copying Apple’s tactics when it was a bit desperate.

  4. Win XP is a good operating system when compared to Win 95/98…

    Its not a good operating system when compared to OS X.

    I tried Unbuntu and a bunch of other distros…. the Window manager crashed too often, and other annoyances made me give up on it…..I tried real hard to use it on a gateway laptop I no longer use since getting my MacBook Pro.

    If anyone wants a good deal on a gateway laptop with WinXP installed on it… I will practically give it to you. No kidding.

    All I can say is…. I have OS X, it totally rocks!

  5. A FALSEHOOD IS A FALSEHOOD IS ALWAYS A FALSEHOOD… it’s a lot like cheating!

    It’s not right and it will never be right!

    Shame om Microsolf and may they be damed to the end of time!

    And they expect people to buy there crap!

    What ever happen to moral and ethical behavior?

  6. I just had to buy a new Dull crapbox for my business (yes, I know, I know but my billing, CRM, and POS vendor only supports Windoze, although I am working on them)….

    It is interesting to note that Dull is so desperate they gave me over 50% off (which is actually still too much to pay for crap) but the config ONLY offered XP…. Vista was not even an ‘upgrade’ option!

    MW: ‘total’ as in Dull make ‘total’ crap!

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