“Apple Inc. is moving quickly to squash bugs in the inaugural release of its Mac OS X Leopard operating system,” AppleInsider reports.
“Internally, Apple has begun passing around the first pre-release builds of Mac OS X 10.5.1 Update and plans to begin widespread testing of the software as early as this week,” AppleInsider reports.
“The maintenance and security update will tie loose ends left in the shipping version of Leopard and also aim to address several issues experienced by early adopters,” AppleInsider reports.
Full article, with other Apple news, here.
MacDailyNews Note: Apple released the first update to Mac OS X Tiger (10.4.1) on May 16, 2005, 17 days after Tiger’s April 29th release.
Sounds like Apple ONCE again is on it.
That’s why I love Apple.
No news…Leopard is working fine since installed……Some adjustments for improvement are always welcome….Apple’s giving good service and doesn’t let me down…That’s why I have chosen this computer and I’m proud of it…
Excellent!
Perhaps I will also find out why the install keeps failing on the mac mini g4 in my house, but worked perfect on my macbook pro and power mac g5…
Anyone have IMAP problems? I have 2 macs with IMAP accounts and all have problems with Mail 3.
Biggest problem: mailboxes (incl. Inbox) don’t get updated, although Activity Monitor says: fetching headers, writing changes to disk etc. I tried all the tips given in the Apple Support Forums: but nothing.
I really hope they gonna fix this ASAP. Because I hate Thunderbird (on my Windows machines: that’s my preferred client, but on a Mac: it sucks)
This week would not be too soon! Apple doesn’t always address the problems some of us have and we have to wait longer. Hopefully, the next update won’t take long either!
my main problem seems to be a dns issue that makes connectivity with certain web sites (particularly google, which blows) a problem.
I hope that they fix automator. A bunch of the functions don’t work. I use Rename Finder Item actions and it no longer allows runtime string input. You can only provide identifying text during the action definition. It’s a real pain.
Make TIME MACHINE drive bootable
It makes no sense “backing up” if you can’t boot from the thing.
Yes I know about booting from Leopard DVD, but video drivers and such don’t get updated on DVD’s. Certain apps and such don’t boot from remote drives and so on.
Carbon Copy Cloner has saved my bacon many times with hard drive failures. Clone the whole drive to another, option boot and your back to work!
Installed yesterday. Screwed up my Quicken data. Says I have over $106,000 in my account. I wish. Can’t use Photoshop 7, Appleworks data unreachable. It can only get better. I hope. Time Machine looks flashy though. I’d rather have good data.
My MBP sleep light comes on after I shut down and close the lid.
I saw other sleep issues on the Leopard forum but not this one. Re-opening the lid for a few seconds convinces it that it’s off. It’s a minor annoyance that never happened in Tiger or earlier.
I’m having weird mouse issues … Like when it wakes up from sleep the mouse is all gummed up and it seems like it tracks irradically.
@Jonahan: My mouse starts jumping around erratically at some point during a TimeMachine longer-than-usual backup. It settles down again afterward. iMac G5. VERY annoying.
I hope they fixing Xcode while they are at it….
Just my $0.02
Interesting. MDN believes quick releases of updates to new OS is a good thing.
A better thing would be for Apple to wait until the new OS is ready for consumers before shipping it and turning the entire customer base into beta testers.
Being better than the worst is the wrong standard.
Letting customer care slide is the road to ruin.
I have had a few issues with spaces and the dock. Still needs some tweaking.
speaking of mice, my macbook pro loses connection briefly with my wireless mighty mouse after it wakes from sleep. it always reestablishes it, but for a second or two… nothing.
other than that (and the aforementioned surfing problem), no major issues.
I’m still waiting for 10.4.11 with fixes for Rosetta. Quicken and bejeweled 2 deluxe (both power PC) have been broken since 10.4.8 for me. No help from applecare either.
I like a poll to be taken of the percentage of users who have had problems with the erase or archive/ install method vs. simply upgrading. There’s a tremendous amount of bitching out there from upgraders, and seemingly far less from the erase/archive types.
Amen, brother, amen.
Have you ever developed any kind of software? Sometimes you can only test so much in a confined group before it gets released and the masses get their hands on it and find different ways of doing things that reveal bugs here and there. That said, Leopard has been pretty stable for me…
@ A Good Thing?
There will always be “bugs” in an OS; however, some of these bugs can’t or aren’t discovered until the OS is released and real world users, who have different setups and needs than developers and other beta testers, get to use the OS. These users have a wide, wide variety and very different combinations of third party software, which makes testing for bugs extremely difficult.
MDN’s take is appropriate: Apple is working quickly to handle these bugs, whether they are new bugs discovered once Leopard was released or if they were known before the release, at least Apple is getting the fix done fast. You certainly can’t say the same about Microsoft.
@ A Good Thing, a/k/a Peterson, et al.
Blah blah, road to ruin, blah blah, customer service dropping, blah blah. Do you even have a clue about the levels of customer satisfaction with Apple? Much less vs. the rest of the industry. Or any tech company for that matter?
I’ve been using Macs for ages, and the build quality and customer service has not gotten any worse. This is a major release of an Operating System. The OS is a big place, seeing as it is everything from the kernel to the GUI. There has never been (and never will be) a bug-free OS release. As some have already said, it’s just not possible to find everything until you reach the critical mass of users. 1 million people will uncover flaws in 5 days that 5,000 developers and beta testers might take months to discover. There simply isn’t any way around it.
All you can ask for is that bugs are reported quickly, ranked in terms of severity, and the most severe ones dealt with quickly. Which is apparently what is happening, just like it did in Tiger. And so yes, that’s a good thing. And why am I feeding the troll? I know better…
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A Good Thing, If you follow the trail that led up to the release date on Leopard, you’ll see that they trapped themselves into an early release. I don’t know if the story they told about why they backed off the June release was fact or fiction, but it left them with no escape route. Release what you can in October or take a beating in the press. So they did the best they could, pulled a few things that they just couldn’t get to work properly, and released. Safari 3 isn’t right. Some of the features in Time Machine were pulled. The installation process is problematic. “etc. etc. etc.”, to quote The King and I. I bought a Family Pack but have only installed it on my own Dual G5 … I may have to wait for 10.5.<u>2</u> to install it on my wife’s Al iMac (sounds so … Arabic!) or any of the iBooks around the house. This was the “worst” OSX upgrade in my memory. Almost as bad as the “best” Linux upgrade in my memory!
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I wonder if they will get 10.4.11 out before 10.5.1, or if they’ll wait to see if the spots can beat the stripes. I’m one of those who feels they should take the extra days to get 10.5.1 <u>right</u>, get the comments about .0 factored in, and release it when you have most of the complaints addressed. Give out 10.4.11 – no new features, just bug fixes – to those who will be left behind on one of those damn systems that Just Won’t DIE!
Dave
Hey what about a final version of Safari 3 Beta for Tiger. Show this more mature Cat a little respect.
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@Jay,
I agree 100%. I have always done a clean install (10.2, 10.3, 10.4, and now 10.5) and have NEVER had a single problem with an OS upgrade on either my Cube or PowerBook. I bet over 90% of those out there who are bitching did either an upgrade or archive and install.
Come on people! Do a clean install every time! At least it forces you to do a good backup each time.