“Apple has been furiously working with their partners on games and applications for the iPhone/iPod and the standardized Human-Interface Controls that will go along with them. For instance, EA is currently porting their iPod lineup to the OSX iPod/iPhone platform to be sold along side the classic iPod OS versions. Other big developers with strict confidentiality agreements are also on board,” Cleve Nettles reports for 9 to 5 Mac.
“Apple is specifically looking to replicate the model of TMobile’s successful SideKick application development and distribution platform (although obviously not in the Sidekick’s Java). Apple has even brought in some of Danger’s (SidekickOS creators) application development team to help with the architecture. A public SDK announcement will likely be made in the coming months which could possibly be included with Xcode. More likely, the SDK will be given only to high level developers with established close ties to Apple,” Nettles reports.
“Whether Apple would make the applications available on Mobile iTunes via an over the air upgrade compared to their current model of installing from a host computer’s iTunes is uncertain… [but] one shouldn’t expect Apple to release a way for non-developers to freely install applications on their iPods and iPhones,” Nettles reports.
Full article here.
Applesoft Strikes Back.
Maybe this will help stop all that whining coming from that vocal minority.
“@JadisOne
Maybe this will help stop all that whining coming from that vocal minority.”
Couldn’t agree with you more there Fellow Fanboy. I’m sick and tired of all the whining too!!! As Apple fanboys, we know that the only software we need on our computers is what Steve decides to give us…. Why would anyone want anything else??
Window trolls expect 3rd parties to be able to write applications for their machines, but we all know that if it didn’t come with the iPhone, we don’t need it.,.. I hope Apple soon disallows crappy 3erd party apps on the Mac too!!
Woooooo Hoooooo Steve!!!!!
People complaining about this are about 1/10th of 1% of the market.
@Moo
Sorry Moo, looks like the number of iPhone breakers may be as much as 10%, judging by how many times AppTapp has been downloaded.
My iPhone 1.0.2 is better than any 1.1.1 iPhone out there, thank you very much. I have have pseudo-GPS, true IM, ability to display more than 16 icons of apps, can maintain iTunes from two different computers, can change my desktop themes, customize my icons, can use my excess RAM as disk space, and can play blackjack, tetris, mines, tiles and Sudoku. All of this (and much, much more) because of third-party apps. Jobs just wants you to buy your apps from Apple’s iTunes Music Store, so he can get more of your money.
Applesoft is truly their new name.
Apple i$ working furiou$ly to ca$h cu$tomer$ for third party app$.
Zune Tang: skip
Camel’s Milk Drinker: skip
Shoeman: skip
Luke Skywalker: skip
Apple: “We’ve got this great phone with a state-of-the-art interface, a great web browser, an amazing iPod, and a few other little apps you might like.”
Tech Dork Customrer: “Wow! That’s great! I want one!”
Apple: “Super! Well there are no third party apps for now. Maybe in the future (possibly) but not now.”
Tech Dork Customer: “No problemo! Gimme, gimme, gimme!”
Apple: “The only carrier will be AT&T;. Period.”
Tech Dork Customer: “Sure thing, man! Give it to me, bro!!!”
Six months later…
Tech Dork Customer: “$%^%$ Apple! I can’t run *&%&#xin;g 3rd party apps!! And I can’t get off the &^(^&)*ing AT&T;network”
Geez…
Skywalker gives a perfectly example of someone suffering from Tweakers’ Syndrome. Fortunately, there is a cure.
Hey, all of you supposed geniuses who know more about Apple products than Steve and the development team in Cupertino:
DON’T BUY THEIR DAMNED PRODUCTS! DON’T DO IT, NO MATTER HOW TEMPTED YOU MIGHT BE!
Support Vista and Windows Mobile and XBox and Zune and ALL THAT CRAP, and show ’em how indignant and superior you really are.
Come on. DO IT! Put your money where your fat mouths are, and stay away from iPod/iPhone/iTV/iMac/ietc. in droves. Show us all the courage of your convictions!
(Whatever you decide to do, however, please STFU.)
@BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots
Skywalker gives a perfectly example of someone suffering from Tweakers’ Syndrome. Fortunately, there is a cure.
Yes, just avoid Stevie when necessary. Really, why should I be forced to pay Apple (and ATnT) to send SMS text messages when I can do it for free with Apollo IM? And why can’t I used the available space on my iPhone to store my files, such as my Keynote presentations or Aperture files? Apple is handicapping the iPhone community.
@Randian
None of us know more about Apple products than the folks in Cupertino, but we sure know about their motivations. They don’t like people who activate the iPhone for use on other networks and to install third-party apps because it cuts into their revenue. Plain and simple.
And we will continue to pound Apple on this because we also know Apple employees lurk on MDN – we need to get our message across to them. (After all, how many Apple ads do you see on this page?)
@MDN morning skim
Good thing you don’t have your head in the sand.
Maybe this will help stop all that whining coming from that vocal minority.
You mean from the developers who don’t have close ties to Apple?
Clearly you prefer to keep yours up your ass.
Free SMS text messaging with a third party app? Because that’s not stealing? Activate the iPhone for use on other networks?
contract
noun |ˈkänˌtrakt|
a written or spoken agreement, esp. one concerning employment, sales, or tenancy, that is intended to be enforceable by law
Dear anonymous,
You say: Clearly you prefer to keep yours up your ass.. Nice language. Since we all know that profanities are the crutches of the intellectual anemic, we forgive you for your lack of communication skills.
Nonetheless, my iPhone is a computer just like my other Macs. What software I install on it is my business, not Apple’s or ATnT’s. If you don’t like it, fine; keep your handicapped iPhone the way it is. Meanwhile, those of us who are accustomed to Apple’s historical concern for its customerbase will remind them that we have supported Apple over the decades because they were not Microsoft.
Looks like jailbreak for 1.1.1 is getting closer…
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/08/announcing-a-preliminary-iphone-1-1-1-jailbreak/
Randian is absolutely right when he says:
“… DON’T BUY THEIR DAMNED PRODUCTS! …”
The iPhone in its current state is only good for the simplest of users. If you just want a nice phone that you can make calls on, listen to music, and play a video on, the iPhone is probably the best phone on the market.
If you expect more out of your phone, as do most of the normal Smartphone market types, the iPhone is not the phone for you.
The iPhone would be what Fischer Price would design if they designed phones.
If you want a phone that’s at least as capable as a (sorry to say) Windows Mobile phone, or as powerful as a Nokia Smart Phone, or as fast as a freaking Blackberry, get one of those. The iPhone is not for you.
If you have you head stuck so far up Steve’s bum that even the iPhone looks good to you, it’s the phone for you.
I know of no truly tech savvy people that like much about the iPhone. The typical iPhone lover is a literally clueless person that simply likes gadgets. Those folks are completely satisfied by the iPhone, and apparently like it or not, those are the majority of people out there, consequently the majority of iPhone users, and Apple clearly knows what it is doing.
Satisfy the morons, uh the masses and you’ll make money.
Radio for iPhone?????
In the 1.1.1 dissection is a reference to com.apple.mobile.radio and com.apple.mobile.nike. Sounds like some more updates are coming.
@Luke Skywalker
“Nonetheless, my iPhone is a computer just like my other Macs.”
No, it’s a phone. See, it’s right there in the name. Just because you want it to be more doesn’t mean it is. And Apple has no obligation to make it anything other than a phone. If you don’t like it that way, don’t buy it. No one held a gun to your head. If you break into the phone to install other apps, you have violated the EULA, and if your phone gets bricked by an update, that’s not Apple’s fault or responsibility, it’s yours.
What the heck is wrong with this entiltlement society these days? Everything is someone else’s fault and the world owes you everything. Uhm, no. If you screw it up, it’s your fault, and for the most part the world owes you exactly nothing.
“@Randian
Hey, all of you supposed geniuses who know more about Apple products than Steve and the development team in Cupertino:”
Wooooo Hoooo Fanboy, Agree 100%. I have no idea what i want or need and neither does anyone else on this planet. It’s up to Steve Jobs to decide what I need and want and provide it….
Wooooo Hooooo Steve….. I’m with ya buddy!!!
Hmm. Could the reference to Nike mean some sort of pedometer using the iPhone’s accelerometer? Any engineers here?
Ferchrissakes, the damn iPhone has only been out for 3 1/2 months! How long did it take for the original Macintosh to get third-party apps?
Apple wants and needs people to have a rock-solid and satisfying experiences with all their devices. What Apple DOESN’T need is for some poorly written apps to start crashing everyones’ iPhones.
Third-party apps WILL come to the iPhone at some point. Apple just wants it all done RIGHT!
MDN Magic Word: Give it TIME folks. Give it TIME.
@Galloway
If you break into the phone to install other apps, you have violated the EULA, and if your phone gets bricked by an update, that’s not Apple’s fault or responsibility, it’s yours.
I’ve never said, and never will say, that bricking my iPhone is Apple’s fault so long as I have to option to not install update. Upon what do you base your assertion?
What the heck is wrong with this entiltlement society these days? Everything is someone else’s fault and the world owes you everything. Uhm, no. If you screw it up, it’s your fault, and for the most part the world owes you exactly nothing.
Since your first statement is incorrect, this statement is irrelevant.
To anonymous who wrote: “I know of no truly tech savvy people that like much about the iPhone. The typical iPhone lover is a literally clueless person that simply likes gadgets. Those folks are completely satisfied by the iPhone, and apparently like it or not, those are the majority of people out there, consequently the majority of iPhone users, and Apple clearly knows what it is doing.”
Ah, the smugness of the psuedo-intellectually superior person. Everyone I know who owns an iPhone is in fact quite tech savvy, and all work in or are supportive of the tech industries. What’s the point of your generalization? That we should all be defined by your myopic, undernourished view of the world? Why don’t you try giving credit for some level of intelligence to others that you arrogantly reserve only for yourself?
I hacked my phone through 1.0.2, and enjoyed the little cute things I could do, but when 1.1.1 came along, I had zero problem tossing of those things. Do you ever read John Gruber of Daring Fireball? He observed the same thing, i.e., that he doesn’t really miss any of the hacks. As a pompous ass, I guess you don’t recognize that the concept of “choice” applies to those who also do not necessarily agree with you.
As for Skywalker, who wrote: “And we will continue to pound Apple on this because we also know Apple employees lurk on MDN – we need to get our message across to them.”
Um, what powerful earth-shattering message is that? That you don’t like their business model with the iPhone? Big woo.
Then you wrote: “Meanwhile, those of us who are accustomed to Apple’s historical concern for its customerbase will remind them that we have supported Apple over the decades because they were not Microsoft.”
Actually, I supported them because they were BETTER than Microsoft, not merely because of the negative proposition you convey. Apple is still better, even when I might wish–and I do–for more flexibility with the iPhone. Will it come? I expect so, but even if it doesn’t, it is still IMO the best mobile device for a Mac user.