“NBC Universal said [Wednesday] that it would soon permit consumers to download many of NBC’s most popular programs free to personal computers and other devices for one week immediately after their broadcasts,” Bill Carter reports for The New York Times.
“The service, which is set to start in November after a test period in October, comes less than three weeks after NBC Universal said it was pulling its programs out of the highly successful iTunes service of Apple Inc. That partnership fell apart because of a dispute over Apple’s iTunes pricing policies and what NBC executives said were concerns about lack of piracy protection,” Carter reports.
MacDailyNews Take: Apple and NBC remain in negotiations. NBC TV shows remain for sale at Apple’s iTunes Store.
“Under the new NBC service, called NBC Direct, consumers will be able to download, for no fee, NBC programs… But the files, which would be downloaded overnight to home computers, would contain commercials that viewers would not be able to skip through. And the file would not be transferable to a disk or to another computer. The files would degrade after the seven-day period and be unwatchable,” Carter reports.
“‘Kind of like ‘Mission: Impossible,’ only I don’t think there would be any explosion and smoke,’ said Jeff Gaspin, the president of the NBC Universal Television Group,” Carter reports.
MacDailyNews Take: Also, if you don’t wise up quickly, Jeff, just like your career and the careers of many others that your kind always take with you. Let’s see: predicting the future of technology: Steve Jobs or Jeff Gaspin? Puleeze. Jeff, wake up, you dumb-ass. Give it to us in an acceptable way or we will take it. Period. End of discussion. Get it now, Jeffie?
Carter continues, “The programs will initially be downloadable only to PCs with the Windows operating system, but NBC said it planned to make the service available to Mac computers and iPods later… Chris Crotty, an analyst for iSuppli, an independent firm that specializes in analysis of new electronic media, said of the NBC move, ‘I think it’s a stretch.’ He argued that consumers have shown they are extremely happy with the iTunes service and that it would not be attractive to consumers to have to range far and wide over a number of services to find the programs they want to download… ‘The consumers have decided they want to get their content from iTunes.'”
Carter reports, “Mr. Crotty said NBC had come across to consumers as ‘highly greedy’ in its dispute with Apple. Apple reported that NBC was insisting it raise the price of some downloads on NBC shows to $4.99 from the $1.99 iTunes charges for all programs. NBC hotly denied that… But, Mr. Gaspin said, ‘piracy was and is our No. 1 priority.’ He said that the music industry had been devastated by the free exchange of music, much of it facilitated by iTunes.”
MacDailyNews Take: Jeff Gaspin is your typical know-nothing, BS-shoveling network suit. The sooner these empty-headed dinosaurs like Gaspin die off, the better. Until then, think of P2P as a sort of giant meteor that users can magically deploy in surgical fashion, so as to not take out all of the other old media types that happen to “get it.”
Full article here.
Who cares. Heroes proceeded to suck more and more as the season went on. It no doubt will continue to suck in season 2.
There you go, MAC lemmings. I get to download and watch all of that fantastic free programming from NBC this season, and you get NOTHING!
I bet you wish you had magnificent Microsoft Windows Vista running on a Dell now. Losers.
Your potential. Our passion.™
you lost me as a viewer
let your advertisers know
FU NBC
thank gawd for other content available on iTunes, TiVo and torrents. Now way in hell will I be force fed advertising via commercials.
This reminds me of a US Dept. of Defense system I was involved in programming years ago.
Encrypted, classified digital data was to be transmitted over short wave radieos. It passed thru several computers on its way to the transmitter.
The DoD wanted everything secure up to the point the signal hit the transmitter. We convinced them that since the whole sorld would know once the info hit the tranmitter, what did it matter that the computers were totally secure with the data milliseconds before thre transmission?
NBC needs to learn that once they transmit a show, it’s out there, and anybody can do just about anything with it.
He said that the music industry had been devastated by the free exchange of music, much of it facilitated by iTunes.”
We’ve got a history revisionist, folks. Free exchange of music started long before iTunes Store or iTunes.app exists. iTunes.app doesn’t facilitate free exchange of music anymore than Photoshop does since it is not a P2P app. iTunes Store actually created a viable download market when record labels were losing money by investing in download services that were hostile to consumers. It turned a lot of people from P2P downloaders into paying customers and poured billions of dollars into the labels’ pocket. Yes, the FairPlay DRM can be defeated, but why will any pirate bother when Audio CDs don’t have a DRM and can be ripped into MP3/AAC in 3 easy steps: 1. insert CD, 2. select tracks and 3. click convert button.
Gaspin, please wipe off your ass after you finished talking since obviously you are talking shit.
Jeff:
I foresee gloom & doom at NBC by year’s end!
NBC’s want-to-be iTunes strore is little more than Bull Shit!
And the would-be customer know it!
sorld?
Make that world.
Sorry!
Did anyone else get the NBC ad on this page? Losers! (Was thru Google syndication. Hmmm. Must block,)
This guy is a fscking moron. Most of the shows on NBC suck ass, save for Heroes and a few others, so fsck him. Besides if you want a decent solution, buy an eyeTV 250 Plus for your Mac. Watch and record digital and analog broadcasts, strip out commercials and send them to your iPod. $199 or less. Well worth it considering that’s the cost of 100 TV episodes. And the quality is great. BTW, it comes with Toast 8, and you can burn them to DVD directly from the eyeTV software. No “self-destruct” ala Mission Impossible EVER. So Jeff, think about it, why would anyone want to wait a week for shows that will only last for a week anyway.
You damn stupid FSCK. Hope you get fired over this.
I just got an apple tv – gave me a whole new reason to love bittorrent.
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@qka
I don’t know what kind of system you were talking about and the specifics, but I can think one reason why they want the computers to be secured. The reason may not be to prevent hackers from getting the data since it will be broadcast by the transmitter, but it may be to protect the encrypted data integrity until it reaches the transmitter or to prevent other nasty things a hacker can do inside a network.
Guess what Gaspin? I have a little thing called EyeTV connected to my Mac. It lets me record ANY program I like anytime I want to. And I can transfer the files in broadcast quality to iPods, iPhones, Apple TV, other computers, etc., as many times as I want with NO DRM. I can also easily edit out your stupid commercials using QuickTime Pro. So, when I want to watch The Office on any of my devices this year, I’ll just record it on my EyeTV and bypass your shitty service entirely.
Big deal. If you can’t download something from itunes than you can find it on a p2p network like amule or download it using bittorrent or usenet. At the moment bittorrent is the main method used to distribute pirated material. You can’t win a war against piracy.
1 million hackers with nothing better to do > any DRM
And if you don’t want to download a show/movie you can watch for free on the internet at websites like Veoh or tv-links.co.uk – commercial free.
Tv and music executives need to ask themselves why so many consumers are inclined to piracy, and itunes has been successful.
The last line of my previous post should read:
Tv and music executives need to ask themselves why so many consumers are inclined to piracy, and why itunes has been successful.
if you want to know where NBC wants to take this, hold your nose and walk down the DVD aisle in any Wal-Mart. They’ve got big sections where they take a good movie and bundle it with two crappy movies by the same star and call it a triple-feature.
So you get Die Hard , Last Man Standing, and Hudson Hawk. Let’s hope that movie buying doesn’t get to be like cable TV, where you only use about 10% of what you’re you’re having to pay for…
ZuneTang deserves a special place in MDN history.
Love your posts ZT. This place wouldn’t be the same without you.
I’ll just DVR it and skip the commercials myself. If I want to download it and can’t get it on iTunes, I’ll just download a commercial free/DRM free version from, well, you know.
“The files would degrade after the seven-day period”–Allegorical to Jeff Gaspin’s career.
Is it just me, or is MDN the first character of some headlines?
“NBC Universal said [Wednesday] that it would soon permit consumers to download many of NBC’s most popular programs free…for one week immediately after their broadcasts,”
In other news, Yugo Automotive announced it will soon permit consumers to drive many of their most popular models free for one week.
Both offers should draw comparable crowds.
You damn stupid FSCK. Hope you get fired over this.
No, please! We should hope he gets promoted. Apple needs competition like this.
If he does get booted, no problem. His talents would fit in well at Microsoft.
I haven’t watched any television show regularly since 2004. I don’t care if NBC or any other network insist that hardware be built with gobs of DRM, and that their stuff is impossible to play unless you have the right codes, only available if you paid for the product and use it according to Hoyle, because I don’t patronize those vendors. Their products aren’t uninteresting, but I’m just not that interested, there’s lots of other things out there that occupy my time. They’re making it harder and harder to watch their stuff, but they have yet to realize that there really is a fine line between the fuzzy convenience of TV and VCR and the scintillating drudgery of digital broadcast and one week expiration. They think they can decide how people use their product. Good Luck with that.
Ferf Muckmeyer:
Your comments were right on target.
I just wish you wouldn’t sugarcoat it.
NBC’s business practices remind me of all of the Muslims who hate freedom. They resent iTunes liberal DRM policies and want to clamp down of the innocent video downloading citzenry. I apologize for the use of the word ‘liberal’ but it applies here. Liberals don’t belong in America because they hate freedom like Muslims. Liberals are gay like John Wayne too. I bet most Muslims are gay.
God bless America.
Careful there, you’re just breeding had with ad homonym attacks and lazy rhetoric. If you have a point to make, do it intelligently or it only does your cause a disservice.
God bless America.
. . . I meant to say, “. . . just breeding hate . . .”
>BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots
That is some twisted sarcasm. I laugh only because you are insane.
I’ve only used piratebay to download two songs that iTunes was forcing me to buy the whole album for and an audiobook that I had on a whole bunch of cassettes that I couldn’t figure out how to transfer to digital…
But this makes me curious about how to download tv shows and movies…
Guess I’ll be figuring that process out pretty soon — if, that is, NBC comes up with anything worth watching.
The only thing good on NBC is golf. None of their so called primetime shows are worth a damn.
The whole point in paying $1.99 for free TV is to (1) avoid the need watch (or even skip through) commercials, (2) download it whenever I want, and (3) watching it whenever I want to watch.
Why would I go through the trouble of downloading these NBC shows if I have to watch the commercials, I can only get the show for a period of one week after broadcast, and if I wait more than one week to watch it, it “degrades”? That’s more inconvenient than recording live programming on a “primitive” tape VCR.
Note to Jeff Gaspin:
UM…I have Parallels…so UM I can watch your content…on my MacBook. Gotta love the intel switch.
When your commercials come on…I can go watch a clip on YouTube and then come back after the commercial break.
Turano
Hey NBC, I have a great idea. Why don’t you add commercials to your programs and then broadcast them over air free to anyone who wants to receive and watch them.
Oops, that was invented almost a century ago… 🙁
Well, your idea is almost as good as this old one.
Fsck NBC!
I gotta say that NBC seems to be run by clueless morons. In the last year the suits have: 1) Denied any reasonable promotion to Aaron Sorkin’s “Studio 60” — effectively killing one of the most literate shows on broadcast TV; 2) Pushed Brian Williams and NBC News into “soft” features, thus gutting a respected broadcast; 3) Picked a stupid fight with Apple over iTunes. It is no wonder NBC is an also-ran network.
The way this country is headed, I don’t think it is very deserving of God’s blessings. I rather doubt if He is impressed by the mindless chest-thumping flag wavers here. Patriotism can be a double edged sword. Nationalism is even scarier.
@ J
Thanks for the reply.
It was as physically secure system, not tied to the outside world at all. What they wanted were Tempest rated computers, comm limnes, etc. The point was, once they pushed the “Transmit” button, the data left a justifiably secure computer, into a chain of several other computers, to the transmitter. The process went as past as the computers could make it. Not much security advantage in protectingthe secret for a few extra milliseconds, and at great cost.
As others have pointed out, all it takes is one person with an Elgato Eye and BitTorrent connection, and NBC’s “secret” is out.
If the worst of our troubles were chest-thumping, patriotism, and nationalism, things would be easy.
NBC has done the right thing. I applaud their decision to move away from iTunes. Jess Gaspin has just moved up a notch closer to the genius levels of Bill Gates and Ballmer. The DRM scheme he is employing is pure genius and a great marketing move. Imagine if they really made your files suddenly go up in smoke visually on your player, just like Mission Impossible. Brilliant!!!! Users will just want to buy and continue to use their services just to see that in action. I can’t wait to start using their services and just have the sheer joy and fun of watching my files implode after seven days. Even if they change the service that you have to pay over and over again, its well worth the money to see that in action. Too bad Apple doesn’t have any clever ways of implementing DRM.
“…just breeding hate”?
BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots is telling the TRUTH! If you don’t like it you can move to Iran. This is America—if you don’t like it, LEAVE. It doesn’t creep me out that BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots is homophobic, either.
I wonder if NBC is going to be giving away Notre Dame games for free, too? *snicker*
I thought the original Napster started the illegal downloads of music. iTunes is working to fix the problem, NOT facilitate it.
Morons!
@busting & @analkin
a. You’re the idiots. Go bust each other’s skulls.
b. You wouldn’t know TRUTH if was wrapped in Bible pages and shoved up your ass.
c. This is my America not yours; get your facts straight.
d. It is your emerica that is most ideologically aligned to that of Iran, so that Middle Eastern ticket has your name on it.
e. Jump on the boat before the other bushtards leave without you.
f. Better yet, shoot yourselves; you can use my gun.
correction: @@anaknipedro not @analkin
A recent Australian survey of broadband users said 40 percent of subscribers use the service to download movies and TV shows via p2p. We’ve seen some spread of this already and people just independently download and make permanent copies.
@ BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots
So do you bust your own skull?
@ @ anaknipedro
This is America, where you have the right to disagree. If you want to embrace fascism perhaps you’re the one who should leave the country.
Oh, and please read the Bill of Rights before you even pretend to know anything about the principles upon which America was founded.
I don’t buy this Piracy concern… The videos cannot be burned or copied. And I haven’t heard of any way to defeat this protection. Not that I would do so if I did mind you.
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NBCU announces name change to better reflect company: NBCFU
But, Mr. Gaspin said, ‘piracy was and is our No. 1 priority.’ He said that the music industry had been devastated by the free exchange of music, much of it facilitated by iTunes.”
Surely Apple could sue based on this misinformation?
“With the creation of this new service, we are acknowledging that now, more than ever, viewers want to be in control of how, when and where they consumer their favorite entertainment,” said Vivi Zigler, Executive Vice President of NBC
Nice work Vivi, lets see how much we control:
How – only on a computer running micro$oft w/ mandatory commercials
When – only one week after an episode plays
Where – certainly not on my ipod in the airplane or in a car
Thanks for my choices Vivi, I’m obviously too stupid to make my own choices
I’m confused. Is there an easy way to beat the DRM on itunes video?
@ ../. — Well said and right on the button. I read the article was blown away by the incredibly stupid and liabelous remark that iTunes is responsible for a good portion of piracy. This shows that NBC has no interest negotiating an agreement to continue with Apple. They actively spreading misinformation to damage iTunes. I hope to God, as Ratty mentioned earlier, that Apple sues NBC’s ass off for that utterly false and damaging comment. I’ve argued for years (pre iTunes) that piracy was wrong and P2P networks were damaging a fabric of enterprise that promoted the production of interesting and entertaining art. iTunes actually brought a lot of “pirates” in from the cold and turned them into paying customers. The entertainment industry ought to be kissing Jobs ass because he saved there bacon. Apple provided an end-to-end solution so attractive that it made people want to become infranchised with the idea of buying entertainment again, rather than taking it off the internet. NBC and this guy Gaspin makes me want to puke over the lack of gratitude. I know business is business. But what NBC is doing now is not business. They’re pissed that Jobs is smarter than them and that Apple owns the keys to the castle. They don’t want to pay rent so they are trying to bring down the landlord, Apple. What they are too immature to realize is that they are bringing down the whole castly that is providing them shelter. What they will have left, if successful, is only a pile of rubble, not good to anyone. The jerks. As of now, after purchasing ALL my entertainment for 53 years, I will gladly circumvent NBC’s crazy crap and pirate any show I choose to watch and can find available. I will continue buying other music and TV shows from iTunes. NBC is dead to me. DEAD TO ME!
Forget NBC. They don’t matter.
It will all come down to sales which in NBC’s case will be a BIG FAT ZERO! Maybe then they’ll get a clue that life doesn’t revolve around DRM. Until then we have P2P if forced upon us. Or we also lso have iTunes the only pleasant online buying experience so far to date.
What gets my 20-something, non-geek friends excited is having a season of a favorite show on DVD. Ownership without commercials. TV on iTunes is an extension of that model. I guess the problem is just as the music industry doesn’t know how to make money except through overpriced pablum promoted on corporate radio; the TV industry doesn’t know how to make money other than wasting 30% of our time with spots.
The real issue ISN’T piracy… its the inability of these fossilized industries to come up with business models using new technology. In music it’s that market fragmentation and into an unprecedented number of tastes and genres and the democratization of the tools of production (really a rennaissance if you think of it). In TV it’s deliverance from the strangehold of just a few networks–both for choice AND for being force-fed commercials.
To the extent that the “industry” doesn’t faciliate these changes, of course piracy will increase.
The music industry blew it when they tried to kill internet radio instead of use it like terrestrial radio (how to you promote 100 genres and 10,000 artists–with 50,000 channels of course… and the technology to turn a listen into an instant 99c purchase with a single click.)
The MPAA and NBC/U are equally clueless but even more disingenouous–thanks to the DVD they’re making more money than ever. But they’re the ones who want to literally censor the internet because their profits from entertainment are more important than freedom.
Imagine if GW proposed to filter every packet of the internet to stop terrorists… there would be a cry across the land. But to protect the sitcom, hardly a whisper.
I’m not for piracy but some things are more important than entertainment profits…
NBC/U can leave iTunes with my blessing… it’s their football, so their rules. But they are attacking the foundation of the internet (every packet goes through without the infrastructure looking at its content or deciding if its okay).
iTunes has great DRM which is why they have 75 plus percent of the market. Locking up DRM tighter will only make legal paying customers leave the market, not want to come back and buy more TV and Movies, IDIOTS! Gaspin like the others really don’t get it. Not only that but they always blame everyone else including the very people they call there customers. Calling your own customers thieves is not the answer. Blaming Apple’s iTunes, saying its DRM is to weak is not the answer nor the reason. No they just want an excuse to raise the prices of online TV shows and movies. It has nothing to do with how good iTunes DRM is. But they needed an excuse so there you go. iTunes gave them record profits for online sales. No wonder why there plight seems to get worse not better. They are biting themselves in the foot and are just to STUPID to figure it out! Your online store will fail Gaspin! When it does we’ll all have a great laugh.
Put another way, NBC/U wants a must-DRM INTERNET. Every single f’in packet.
And yes, I’m not going to get over this until somebody realizes the audacity and evil of what they’ve proposed. Because I am not making this up.
Hey Zune,
Don’t you ever get tired of recording the sound of your own farts?
Stop whining like a bunch of bitches and get a DVR.
You have to be an Apple FanBoy of perplexing proportions to prefer paying for iTunes DRM NBC shows over getting them free from NBC. I like Apple products, but I’ll keep my money in my pocket whenever possible.
I hope that each time they say iTunes is responsible for pirating (WTF?!?!) that Apple negotiate 10c more profit per NBC show sold on iTunes after Gaspin has gone on his knees to Jobs to beg forgiveness…
NBC is part GE. And as someone else wrote, they are without Jack Welch, just a bunch of Managers. Not a leader in sight.
Don’t MS and NBC have a close relationship? Does this relationship have anything to do with NBC pulling out of iTunes? Does anyone else think MS is helping NBC setup this “free” service? Gates is always talking about how advertisers can use the internet to target sheep into buying products, isn’t this just more of that?
@ Questions:
Don’t MS and NBC have a close relationship? Does this relationship have anything to do with NBC pulling out of iTunes? Does anyone else think MS is helping NBC setup this “free” service? Gates is always talking about how advertisers can use the internet to target sheep into buying products, isn’t this just more of that?
Yes. There is a channel called MSNBC on cable/satellite. That’s the first thing I thought when I read the article, too. Well, good riddance to NBC. I don’t think there’s a show I watch on their belated network, anyway. BSG hurts a little, but I’d even drop that like a bad habit and I never bought it from iTunes anyway.
I hear that the Model T was killed off by horses.
Oh, and iTunes, of course.
BOYCOTT NBC and their loser fall TV shows. I can’t wait to see how bad those shows surrounding “Heroes” do on Mondays. And Bionic Woman and whatever the hell is on at 10/9c on Wed — ? What were they thinking? And ER — give it up, NBC.
NBC = Nothing But Cancellations.
In other news, People have been ripping HDVD and Blu-ray movies and torrenting them for some time. see the links below for examples.
http://www.isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=1080p
http://www.isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=720p
http://thepiratebay.org/search/1080p/0/3/0
http://thepiratebay.org/search/720p/0/3/100,200,300,400,600
Maybe if consumers didn’t feel cheated they wouldn’t be pirating stuff so much. A way around copyright protection is always found. If people want to pirate something than there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them. What the movie and music studios need to do is to get people to stop wanting to resort to piracy.
Hint: Legal threats aren’t going to work as history shows.
Best MacDailyNews Take ever: Also, if you don’t wise up quickly, Jeff, just like your career and the careers of many others that your kind always take with you. Let’s see: predicting the future of technology: Steve Jobs or Jeff Gaspin? Puleeze. Jeff, wake up, you dumb-ass. Give it to us in an acceptable way or we will take it. Period. End of discussion. Get it now, Jeffie?
This doesn’t seem like the smartest move, I agree, however.
MDN, in your take, saying “the sooner they die off” is a bit much. It’s saying things like that that give mac users and enthusiasts such bad names. It’s ok to discredit what a guy says or does by intelligent debate, but calling for their death? That’s callous, and automatically makes you lose any ground on an argument.
Lucas makes a good point.
also, why must you “have it, just the way I want it” only?
Television, INITIALLY, was a medium for COMMERCIALS, programming was secondary.
Not that I want to return to that…
“He said that the music industry had been devastated by the free exchange of music, much of it facilitated by iTunes.”
Where has this guy been. WAY BEFORE iTUNES — Napster, P2P, LimeWire, those are the file sharing he should focus or learn about. iTunes tried both ways.
Uhmmmmmmmmmmmm. DRM music is really more of a WINDOWS PC issue. I believe here is only one application on Mac… DRM Dumpster. Where there are at least 20 for PC and a few are free. Give to Window USERS 1st. This has been always the case. And I think if Windows has 80-90% market share… then piracy must then be at the hands or that market. Most servers also – which are DOING the sharing.
Heck, you can take your PVR and dump the MP4 video and the share it from a server. THE transfering or coping of FILES isn’t the problem… it’s the POSTING and SHARING, giving it away, or selling it for cheap THAT is piracy.
NBC is GOING to HAVE to AIR the show — to self distruct the media EVEN on PVRs. And if this is a good idea, the show should dissolve/vanish/erase/encrypt after first viewing, not one week.
YET this is just more trouble.
Tell your child he can not smoke… and they go behind your back and do it. Challenge them and they push back. Similar, hackers will find a way.
JUST sell the show 4 a reasonable price, flat across the globe.
Fairly.
I am no computer wiz.
You made me really worried cos I really will miss my shows. Unless…. hmmmmm.
I thought the web was the new land of tv. I feel so foolish to have cut my cable subscription.
So, I just ran out in fear and bought my very own copy of Vista for my Mac. That’s right – I didn’t pirate it – I made a purchase.
Unlike 40% of the Windows users.
Please tell me, Mr. Zune… will I not be able to download as NBC shows like you when running the Windows environment?
Oh oh… is this a DirectX tang? Oh… then forget it.
Vista 4 sale!
OK, let me see if I have this right. Since NBC has decided not to sell their pathetic crap from last week on iTunes, John Wayne is now a gay muslim? Wow, this 21st century is a real trip man!
MDN word progress – as in this is progress?
Irony- as I read your take (accurate, I believe) on NBC, their ad for “Chuck” flashes along the side. I’m glad you don’t let your advertisers influence your objectivity.
Way to go MDN; keep up the good work!
Wow, I guess I’m famous now. I have my own brainless liberal troll attempting to smear me by writing supposed sarcasm under my handle.
Look at the time stamps, folks. 4:33 PM? I don’t think so. Anyways, let’s dissect.
“NBC’s business practices remind me of all of the Muslims who hate freedom. They resent iTunes liberal DRM policies and want to clamp down of the innocent video downloading citzenry. I apologize for the use of the word ‘liberal’ but it applies here. Liberals don’t belong in America because they hate freedom like Muslims. Liberals are gay like John Wayne too. I bet most Muslims are gay.”
First off, your sarcasm is meaningless because it attempts to make points that I have never made. Second off, if you have to resort to stealing my handle to make points, it’s because you don’t have the courage to use your own handle and debate me on your own. You are a coward. Third, if you knew anything about modern liberalism, you’d find it strange how liberals and Muslims embrace the same US foreign policy. It’s more than just a crazy coincidence. Fourth, the reference to John Wayne being gay was a comparison of impossibilities. Fifth, if you look at Muslim-run countries, all of them but a few are under Shiara law and are dictatorships. There’s a reason for that.
Grow up, child. Either face me in the open forums (and preferably on a different site to keep this site on topic), or at least use your own name.
First, look at the time stamps. The first BTSOI isn’t me. 4:33 PM? No.
Second, stealing other people’s names is a sign of cowardice. That this person is pushing leftist bs or engaging in satire of my words by misunderstand them — well, that says it all, doesn’t it?
At least use your own name, when you’re not stealing Chrissy’s. *rolls eyes*
Ok, the first message didn’t immediately go through. Anyways…
Just a thought here. I tried NetFlicks free movies on my work pc with high speed broadband.
It sucked royally. It kept locking up, freezing, etc. I could restart but had to reboot to do that.
I imaging NBC will have the same problem.
BUT my movies that I have downloaded from iTUnes, just seem to play fine. HMMMM.. Crap tv vs iTunes???? I wonder which I should use. ???? LOL
NBC, enjoy the tail spin.
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“He said that the music industry had been devastated by the free exchange of music, much of it facilitated by iTunes”
Uhhh… What?
Congratulations NBC!
I warned you guys, “never deal with people who claim to not be motivated by profit”. Apple will ream anybody who wants to make a buck! Why can’t they have different prices for every show, every song, …. based on demand? Are they the dollar store or something?
NBC has bailed on this failed model and seen the light. All I can say to you guys is, “xBox, xBox, xBox, zune, zune, xBox, zune, ….”
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