Apple today released Mac OS X 10.4.10 Update which is recommended for PowerPC and Intel-based Mac computers currently running Mac OS X Tiger. This update includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes or compatibility updates for the following applications and technologies:
– RAW camera support
– Mounting and unmounting external USB devices
– Support for 3rd party software applications
– Security updates
Apple also released About Mac OS X Server 10.4.10 Update which is recommended for all servers currently running Mac OS X Tiger. This update includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes or compatibility updates for the following applications and technologies:
– Mounting and unmounting external USB devices
– Support for 3rd party software applications
– Security updates
Mac OS X 10.4.10 Update is available via Software Update and also as standalone installers. More info and download links:
• Mac OS X 10.4.10 Update (PPC) – 25MB
• Mac OS X 10.4.10 Combo Update (PPC) – 165MB
• Mac OS X 10.4.10 Update (Intel) – 72MB
• Mac OS X 10.4.10 Combo Update (Intel) – 293MB
• Mac OS X Server 10.4.10 Update (PPC) – 58MB
• Mac OS X Server 10.4.10 Combo Update (PPC) – 218MB
• Mac OS X Server 10.4.10 Combo Update (Universal) – 391MB
How many complaints will we get from people who didn’t run DiskWarrior or Repair Permissions before installing the update that this update screwed up their system?
Was there ever .10 before???
running fine here
what is the difference between combo update and the regular update?
No, first time.
@torchwood
I believe there has been 1 other time in history a .10 update has been released. there’s a link somewhere on MDN about this.
@Tommy Boy
If only I had a nickle for the people who come to the Genius Bar for that…
Isn’t repair permissions voodoo? Daring Fireball has stories about it every now and then….
LOL MAC can’t even do math, they don’t even know that 10.5 comes after 10.4.9. What a bunch of idiots.
Also…
– RAW camera support
– Mounting and unmounting external USB devices
– Support for 3rd party software applications
– Security updates
So before this MAC didn’t have RAW camera support, couldn’t mount or unmount external USB devices, had no 3rd party software application support, and no security? Man, MAC sucks even worse than I thought!
MDN MW: Value, as in an empty pop can has more value than a MAC.
Well it looks like PC TROLL took his ‘make me stupid’ pill today.
10.5 has to come after 10.4.9? Give me a break. Because everything should work with your limited view on the world. Check out the numbering system at your local library for even more fascinating numbering schemes. This is of course assuming that PC trolls know how to pick up a book every once in a while. Not going to point out you other obvious lapses in information because one point in showing how much of an idiot you are is enough. No reason to beat a dead horse.
can anyone answer my question by any chance? thanks.
@PC Troll
You must have sucked sh|t in you’r math class! Since when can a number have two decimals in it, i.e. 10.4.9???
Its a software version “number”, you ignorant slut!
@Shawn
Combo update would be able to update any 10.4.x to 10.4.10, whereas the regular one would be from a specific version of 10.4.x, say 10.4.8 to 10.4.10. Hence the combo is much larger…
Unless you have loads of macs to update (download once, update many kinda thingie), regular update would do for you…
Shawn
Combo updates include all prior updates; a regular update includes only the very most recent update. If you use run System Update from the Apple Menu (or from System Preferences) your update is automatically chosen for you.
@ PC Troll
You get a gold star and a sucker! Shame on MAC. ;P
awesome, thank you very, very much
Sometimes trolls are just silly, others obtuse and try hard, most are just plain funny, rather clownesque. But this PC Troll is plain idiotic. Now, truly, in Windows world people are truly that hopelessly shithead?
What a tool. Never have seen a Troll being so disgraceful to its breed.
True PC trolls out there, you should truly do yourself a favor and kick the ass out of this moron: it is a shame for all trolls.
Hey idiot: shut the fsck up. You can’t be that moron for real, but I guess you actually are.
A regular update just includes the current fixes, while a combo update includes all the fixes since you last updated. So, for example, if you had 10.4.2 and downloaded combo 10.4.10, you would get everything included in 10.4.3, 10.4.4, etc, but not with the regular 10.4.10 update.
oh sorry, someone beat me to it
what is the difference between combo update and the regular update? shawn
I don’t know if this is actually fact or myth, but some experts claim that Apple’s OS X combo updaters do not install exactly the same set of files as the incremental updaters, and that the combo updaters give better results in some cases. Personally, I always manually download the combo updater instead of letting Software Update install the incremental updater.
@Tyk: Isn’t repair permissions voodoo? Daring Fireball has stories about it every now and then….
Must be true then, right?
Alansky:
That kinda sucks for me. I was in the midst of downloading the Combo update and was at about 250 mb when I finally got a response here – I cancelled it thinking I would just get the regular 72 mb update. Hmmm, now I wonder.
Damn. I was hoping they’d call it 10.4.A just to mess with people
Shawn,
I would go ahead with the regular update. You can always download and re-install the combo update if you have any problems. Be sure to repair permissions after installing the update. It may be voodoo, but it has always worked for me.
My XTools are snappier.
i have never had any problems updating to a new version with permissions and such. what kind of problems exactly can occur? this update will be my first on intel so maybe its an intel thing? elaboration please
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Finder seems snappier!
And Safari, too!
And my iPod.
And my iPhone that I don’t have yet.
Just updated my Macbook Pro. I don’t know about you guys, but my speakers are noticeably softer now. Anyone else experiencing this?
Just updated my macbook and my lamp-stand iMac. Interesting that the iMac took me through a registration process with itunes and .mac, and the macbook didn’t. Ah well, doesn’t matter. I’m off to lake mead kiddies, gonna houseboat for a week, ski, eat too much, and have a great time. C y’all next week.
Alansky,
You are 100% correct. If an incremental update ever goes bad install the combo updater and back to normal. This happened to me once (like Peterson). I always used the combo updater because it will (I believe) update a file that was updated previously and then somehow got corrupted.
Why don’t they call it Mac OS X.4 SP10 and really mess with our heads? (^_~)
Oh Snap!
It’s *snappier* now!
Random Coolzip, count in hexadecimal? Force so many people to take off a shoe to count where no Mac has gone before? Ingenious! Cures Apple’s problem when they want to advance from 10.9, too – gives them through 10.F! Oh, wait … this opens the door to 10.99(+) as well. Gets the basic language clear a decade before such clarification is really needed. We’ll have a new generation of fools by then, but more folks who’ve heard it all before.
DLMeyer – the Voice of G.L.Horton’s Stage Page Pod Cast
Spotlight reindexed.
It flies now.
… the PPC updates are always smaller than the Macintel versions? A LOT smaller. Same stuff, just that Intel downloads that are usually 2x the size or more.
Since UB language is doing the same work for both PPC and x86, just translating to both, it can’t have anything to do with that.
x86 must be a really inefficient architecture to code for.
SP10 has a nice ring to it.
Since Steve has gone Intel he might as well go “whole hog” and adopt M$ terminology as well.
Wow. Mathematica 6 cooks now. Sweet!
Yep, Finder is definitely snappier.
Internet Explorer is snappier! *drool*
Do these updates work? I have had my PB 550 since 12/2001 and I have never had one problem. This is bullarky.
PC Troll gets it. Nice job!
That ‘MAC’ part was a nice touch too. Who says PC users have no taste?
Your potential. Our passion.™
PC Troll
Go back to your PC and waste several hours cleaning up your registry, download drivers, clean up all the spyware and adware (if you can), while I get productive and do work….on my MAC.
After this update, I found that Vista sucks even more..
oh, and my Desktop picture is MUCH snappier too!!
Can anyone who says things are “snappier” please also tell us how long since your previous reboot?
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MW: Personal. As in, personally, I find regular rebooting makes my Mac run snappier.
YES!
About This Mac is MUCH snappier! It’s About time.
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so safari kept crashing immediately upon launching after the update (repaired permissions using install disk), just as it did when i tried the beta of safari 3.0. turns out it’s the same culprit: safari plus.
so i removed it from my input managers library folder and, voilà, it works now. it sucks, though – i liked safari plus!
Having problems with my USB card reader being seen in parallels + windoze xp (says device in use)…tried restart fiddling with USB autoconnect in PC. anyone else having probs?
Personally, I think Tiger will go to 11…
I wonder how much snappier my not-so-snappy 12″ PB 1GHz? *Snap* *Snap*
To the idiots that fell for the “PC Troll” comments and continued to litter the comments section with useless crap. The obvious sarcasm in his/her post didn’t clue you in? It was probably another “MAC” user messing around to see how many of you tards would bite, and it appears we have plenty of dopes willing to on here as always.
@JackH. About an hour. Snap.
Don’t feed the troll!!! They only get dumber and uglier if you do.
Just upgraded a Macmini 1.66GHz and boy is it slow. I did all the normal pre- and post-update permissions, etc but to no avail. I am going to upgrade via the combo updater and see if speed improves.
Any one else with slow speed issues?
Macmania:
Gruber knows his stuff….
This from Macworld:
Do I need to repair permissions before installing an update to Mac OS X?
In a word, no. When you install a Mac OS X update, you’re required to authenticate—provide an admin-level username and password—in order for the installation to proceed. When you authenticate, you’re allowing the installer to run with the equivalent of root access. What this means is that the installer is not constrained by Mac OS X’s permissions system—it ignores the normal restrictions of file and folder permissions. This is necessary for Installer to be able to update Mac OS X, but, more important for the current discussion, it also means that “incorrect” permissions shouldn’t cause problems with the installation.
My PPC based machine rebooted twice. Is this normal/in the release notes somewhere? Anyone?
>”About This Mac is MUCH snappier! It’s About time.”
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Ditto
Update,
Ran the Combo Updater and fixed permissions. Still very slow, over 5 minutes to reboot!
However, all programs seem to run fine with just a little hesitation as compared to preupdate.
To all the people who think 10.5 comes after 10.4.9, it’s time for you to RETAKE basic math. There’s no such thing as a decimal number with TWO decimal points.
Therefore, 10.4.9 is NOT a decimal number. 10.4 is. 10.49 is.
10.49 + .01 = 10.5
10.4.9 + 0.0.1 = 10.4.10
Stop being so dumb.
dd,
Thank you for your detailed post. It is quite informative. We need more users like you to think these things through and put these trolls in their place. BTW, please read troll food’s 8:55 pm post. I think you will find it quite pertinent. Thanks again,
b
“My PPC based machine rebooted twice. Is this normal/in the release notes somewhere? Anyone?”
Same with my G4 iBook. Don’t recall a double restart with PPC Macs before, but everything is working just fine. Also fine on my MacBook.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25751
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106712
some information on OS X permissions and the “Repair Permissions” function.
I had a double boot with 10.4.8
At this rate we’ll be a 10.4.12 by the time Leopard is out.
I installed it, and all is well on my G5 Power Mac.
Not only is finder and other apps faster. Mail is working great now. I have Gmail. Since the 10.4.9 update Mail has sucked. I don’t know why. This issued occurred on all my machines. This update seems to have fixed that.
troll food,
right ye are!
If you ignore them, they go away.
Ethan,
my mini did a double boot as well. I’v never experienced that before.
Man, it’s amazing how many people will still take you seriously even if you put “Troll” in your name.
“To the idiots that fell for the “PC Troll” comments and continued to litter the comments section with useless crap. The obvious sarcasm in his/her post didn’t clue you in? It was probably another “MAC” user messing around to see how many of you tards would bite.”
At least one person gets it.
Oh, and I was satirizing the Anti-Apple freaks who always try and turn every positive announcement into something negative (“new OS update? So there was problems with the old one? Man, MAC sucks”)
Should read
Your potential. We’ll crush it.™
MW HOPE as in “Today, Bill Gates stated ‘We really hope to innovate some day'”
I updated to 10.4.10 and now Safari won’t work. My homepage comes up, but when I navigate anywhere else, it Kacks. I’ve got a brand spankin new 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core MacPro. Anybody else have that problem?
I once felt snappier. Once.
You keep getting it wrong you dumb ass, our slogan is…
Your frustration. Our fault. ™
Updated a Core 2 duo 2.0 Ghz white MacBook (May 06) from 10.4.9. No issues. Safari 3.0 beta works fine, didn’t need to reinstall.
MW= should, as in how else SHOULD it work?
Could be my imagination, but it does feel snappier.
>”Ethan,
my mini did a double boot as well. I’ve never experienced that before.”
I had a double boot as well (PPC G5), so it’s good to know it’s normal, or at least not an isolated incident. No problems thus far. Double boots are normal on some updates 10.4.9 double booted as well. I just didn’t see anywhere in the 10.4.10 release notes where it mentioned this.
After this update Vista seems much more sluggish.
>”Ethan,
my mini did a double boot as well. I’ve never experienced that before.”
I had a double boot as well (PPC G5), so it’s good to know it’s normal, or at least not an isolated incident. No problems thus far. Double boots are normal on some updates 10.4.9 double booted as well. I just didn’t see anywhere in the 10.4.10 release notes where it mentioned this.
After this update Vista seems much more sluggish.
>”Ethan,
my mini did a double boot as well. I’ve never experienced that before.”
I had a double boot as well (PPC G5), so it’s good to know it’s normal, or at least not an isolated incident. No problems thus far. Double boots are normal on some updates 10.4.9 double booted as well. I just didn’t see anywhere in the 10.4.10 release notes where it mentioned this.
After this update Vista seems much more sluggish.
>”Ethan,
my mini did a double boot as well. I’ve never experienced that before.”
I had a double boot as well (PPC G5), so it’s good to know it’s normal, or at least not an isolated incident. No problems thus far. Double boots are normal on some updates 10.4.9 double booted as well. I just didn’t see anywhere in the 10.4.10 release notes where it mentioned this.
After this update Vista seems much more sluggish.
@Peter
My MacPro goes to 11. It’s got a dial right on the front. I had to order it special. Even with Apple BTO, they only go to 10.
Crud! I did the combo update to 10.4.10 on my g4 sawtooth, and now I’ve got no internet connection to my dsl modem. Well, the modem thinks that everything’s fine, and I *can* access it if I boot into my old OS 9, which is what I’m doing right now. But from OS X? Nothing. Rrrr…
Is it possible to downgrade one’s system? What would happen if I run the 10.4.9 combo updater on top of my 10.4.10? Or should I just do a clean install from the original Tiger disks at this point, and then restore my files from my external backup?