“From the end of January any Windows-based personal computer that you buy will come with a new version of Microsoft’s operating system, called Vista. Make no mistake, this is more than just a slicker, prettier version of Microsoft’s current operating system for desktop computers, Windows XP. Vista is considerably quicker, easier and more pleasant to use, and far more stable and secure, than was its predecessor. One of its particular attractions is its more intuitive way of storing, organising and locating files. Included too are better parental controls, a built-in DVD maker, and lots of other improvements. In many ways, especially in its look and feel and ease of use, Vista out-Macs the Mac’s latest operating system—the Tiger version of OS X. However, that could change when Apple releases its Leopard version of OS X in spring,” The Economist reports.
MacDailyNews Take: We can find no other independent Windows Vista review that makes such a ridiculous claim. Is The Economist serious in saying that Microsoft’s Windows Vista beats Apple’s Mac OS X Tiger in terms of “look and feel and ease of use?” Or are they just joking? Maybe we’re reading it wrong and it’s supposed to be satire? Really, the choice of the terms “look and feel and ease of use” is a dead giveaway, right?
The Economist continues, “…The real difference between Unix-like operating systems and Windows is their design philosophies. Windows may squander computing power through its clumsy architecture. But by favouring simplicity of use over simplicity of design, Microsoft has been able to leverage cheap but powerful commodity hardware, to provide cost-effective software solutions. These may be complex in design—and full of bugs to boot—but, boy, are they easy to use and maintain. That’s a winning formula in anyone’s book, and the reason why Windows rightly rules the world.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Windows PCs are “easy to use and maintain” and that’s “the reason why Windows rightly rules the world?” Okay, for sure now, this article is definitely meant as a joke. Before all, the headline The Economist uses is “Hasta la Vista,” so maybe the unknown author is trying to say goodbye to Windows?
Related MacDailyNews articles:
NY Times’ Pogue reviews Microsoft’s Windows Vista: ‘Looks, Locks, Lacks’ – December 14, 2006
Unlike Microsoft’s Windows Vista, Apple’s Mac OS X Leopard will create no new jobs – December 12, 2006
Microsoft’s Windows Vista: obsolete on arrival? – December 04, 2006
InformationWeek: Now that Vista is the past, let’s look at the future: Apple’s Mac OS X Leopard – December 02, 2006
Microsoft’s Windows Vista and Office 2007 releases generate yawns – December 02, 2006
Dave Winer: ‘Microsoft isn’t an innovator, and never was – they are always playing catch-up’ – December 01, 2006
Microsoft’s Windows Vista vulnerable to malware from 2004 – November 30, 2006
Microsoft Windows Vista developers used Apple Macs for inspiration – November 27, 2006
Microsoft’s Windows Vista is basically Microsoft’s version of Mac OS 9.3 – October 11, 2006
Microsoft Windows Vista: If you can’t innovate… try to impersonate Apple’s Mac OS X – August 10, 2006
Ballmer: I’m Microsoft’s ‘primary champion of innovation’ – July 27, 2006
Microsoft botches another copy job: Windows Vista Flip3D vs. Apple Mac OS X Exposé – June 26, 2006
Windows Vista rips-off Mac OS X at great hardware cost (and Apple gains in the end) – June 13, 2006
Computerworld: Microsoft Windows Vista a distant second-best to Apple Mac OS X – June 02, 2006
Thurrott: Microsoft going to get eaten alive over Windows Vista’s resemblance to Apple’s Mac OS X – March 09, 2006
NY Times’ Pogue on Gates’ CES demo: Most of Vista features unadulterated ripoffs from Apple Mac OS X – January 05, 2006
Analyst: Windows Vista may still impress many consumers because they have not seen Apple’s Mac OS X – January 05, 2006
Apple’s talent and innovation vs. Microsoft’s hype – October 25, 2005
Microsoft’s Windows Vista strives to deliver what Apple’s Mac OS X already offers – October 10, 2005
Thurrott: many of Windows Vista’s upcoming features appeared first in Apple’s Mac OS X – September 26, 2005
Microsoft’s Ballmer: It’s true, some of Windows Vista’s features are ‘kissing cousins’ to Mac OS X – September 18, 2005
PC World: Microsoft innovation – an oxymoron – September 14, 2005
As usual, Apple leads, Microsoft tries to follow – June 02, 2005
eWEEK Editor Coursey: Longhorn so far ‘looks shockingly like a Macintosh’ – April 25, 2005
Due in late 2006, many of Windows Longhorn’s features have been in Mac OS X since 2001 – April 25, 2005
Microsoft’s new mantra: ‘It Just Works’ ripped straight from Apple’s ‘Switch’ campaign – April 22, 2005
Apple CEO Steve Jobs on Microsoft’s Longhorn: ‘They are shamelessly copying us’ – April 21, 2005
Microsoft’s Windows Longhorn will bear more than just a passing resemblance to Apple’s Mac OS X – April 15, 2005
Steve Jobs: Microsoft copied original Apple Mac with Windows 95, now they’re copying us again – February 08, 2005
Where Apple leads, Wintel follows years later – January 31, 2005
Novell CEO: ‘Microsoft sucked $60 billion out of IT industry that could have used for innovation’ – September 13, 2004
Apple CEO Steve Jobs: Mac OS X Tiger ‘is going to drive the copycats crazy – June 28, 2004
PC Magazine: Microsoft ‘Longhorn’ preview shows ‘an Apple look’ – May 06, 2004
Charles Arthur: Microsoft’s definition of ‘innovation’ different from everyone else’s – April 27, 2004
I can’t wait for the first round of flaws to get exploited. A little schadenfreude for the new year, I guess.
Welcome to Vista, baby! Prepare to lose more share, apple. Has MDN even tried Vista? I doubt it.
Dear Zune Tang:
Die in a fire.
SIgned:
The civilized world
Well – no doubt about it. This guy is certifiable. I cn’t tell you how many Wondows users I know who HATE everything about it. I hope they get some relief from Vista – but I doubt it.
Zune Tang, we were going to try Vista at work, but soon discovered that we COULDN’T! We’ll have to rebuy all of the PCs in the office with more memory, more storage space, faster processors, et al., before we can.
When my boss found this out, he decided we should go with the MULTIPLE OS option that the Mac offers. That is, if we want to run Vista, we can. If we want to run Mac OS X, we can. If we want to run Linux, we can. If someone wants to run BeOS, he can.
Damn, but the math seemed simple to him–and to all of us as well!
Mac, here we come!
Zune Tang. You have to admire a pimply little 9th grader with that much tenacity.
I’m sorry for being such an idiot. I’ll go away now.
If Vista still needs virus software protection to keep it secure. It’s no better than it ever was. To say that it is more secure is a total lies and propaganda.
Bite on that on zune tank.
Use Vista at your own peril.
Zune Tang, seriously, STOCKHOLM Syndrome. Get help now. There are programs you can join.
Say, isn’t the Economist a British rag? If it IS, that explains the ludicrously positive spin on the Vista excreta. For some reason, British publications loathe Apple, so any opinion piece from them will necessarily praise MonkeySoft and pan Mac/iPod/etc.
As a former PC user, I cannot express how glad I am that I got out of the Window$ world when I did (1 1/2 years ago). Upgrade path to Vista is nightmarish, to say the least, unless you are willing to shell out at least a grand on a new PC that MIGHT be able to run the Premium version of Vista! Otherwise, have fun buying more memory and a gamers’ quality video card just to run “Aero”. Whoopedeedooo!!!! Oh and yes, Zune Tang, MDN has tried Vista, it’s called OS X…numb nut.
how do you “out-mac a mac” with “new” features that OSX has had for years now?
this is ridiculous
One last jab to you Apple icons – none of you could find your way from the front to the back of a C++ manual.
There.
Incompetence… Economist… same thing.
For those of you who find pleasure in using my name in vain, please continue to play on. Your displeasure pleases me. Vista is proving that Apple has no monopoly on “ease of use”.
And, yes, The Economist gets it. Indeed, Vista improves on Microsoft’s legendary ease of use with customer-desired implementation of which only Apple can dream.
So, dream on of sugar plum iPods and candied iMacs dancing in your heads this Christmas season. It’s the only place they work. The real world belongs to Microsoft and it is the playground of the gifted.
‘Til I can Welcome you to the Social,
Happy Holidays
oh, and has anyone seen my wits? Can’t…..put…..my…..hands……on…..th
how do you “out-mac a mac” with “new” features that OSX has had for years now?
The only diffrence in Vista is Aero. Its somewhat considered better then Aqua that mac has for years. The only different Aero can do is small screenshots of programs like on this link
. Where a Documents small screenshot is shown. Bye
Mwahhhhahahahahaaa!!! “Microsoft’s legendary ease of use”?! ROTFLMAO!!!! Perhaps you MS drones demanded these customer-desired improvements becuase, erm, Windows is inherently NOT easy to use?
“But by favouring simplicity of use over simplicity of design, Microsoft…”
1. Microsoft favors simplicity of use? Since when?
2. Simplicity of design means more complicated use? WTF?
” These may be complex in design—and full of bugs to boot—but, boy, are they easy to use and maintain.”
Complex design & full of bugs = easy to use and maintain? Again, WTF?
“That’s a winning formula in anyone’s book, and the reason why Windows rightly rules the world.”
Uh, actually, Windows rules the world because they beat everyone else in the business sector years ago and are entrenched.
This has to be satire.
I think the economist article was satirical and Zune Tang is awesome. They both highlight the advantages that Apple has over Microsoft and Mac OSX over Vista. Thank you to both of them.
Microsoft products, including Vista, are the future. I sit at my computer and think “wow, this IS the social and I am welcome to it.”
The only diffrence in Vista is Aero. Its somewhat considered better then Aqua that mac has for years. The only different Aero can do is small screenshots of programs like on this link
. Where a Documents small screenshot is shown. Bye
wouldn’t Expose be considered “small screenshots” of programs. hit F9 and see a screenshot of every program open at the same time?
the logic in this review shows why England is now considered a third world country
sad to see a once great nation in such a rapid decline
Zune Tang and all Vista freaks to whom this concerns. Vista is a Joke. I am currently running Vista on several machines. The final release was available for download via the MSDN site a few weeks ago. (Its not Beta) This OS is a nightmare. Easy of use my ass. Just because it looks pretty doesn’t make it functional. Its like a Fiat with a Ferrari shell over it. I would be complete moron to deploy this OS on my corporate network in its current state. It doesn’t run login scripts anymore, by batch or group policy, It currently has a huge issues connecting and resolving volumes from SMB or CIFS shares (there goes the usefulness of that uber NAS I have) It has no Admin tools at all download or otherwise, and half of the MS MMC tools for managing servers and systems don’t install at all, and to boot, printed in nice big bold text on the current Softchoice “Windows Vista Advisor” it states that the CPU requirements for the OS have increased 243% since XP was released. Oh and for you Zune enthusiasts out there, the Zune Market place and software are also not compatible with the OS. Not to mention the all new Zero day exploits. I manage a HUGE Windows centric network. I Manage SQL Server, Exchange, Windows 2K/98/XP/Server 2003. I can honestly say I was super let down when Windows ME reared its ugly head. But Vista was not just a let down, it was a nightmare realized. Sometimes you give birth to an ugly baby but you love it anyway. This baby should have been burned, buried, and had a cement slab poured over it the minute it was conceived. Where’s my MAC?
Toasty!
You have to remember all of the advertising MONEY Microsoft spends in magazines. It’s what these writers are told to write by editors. Because the editors are told to make Microsoft look good or else by the marketing arm and publisher.
The amount of independence tech writers has is almost zero. The magazines are so beholding to the clients that advertise in them it’s ridiculous. You read a PC magazine and is ther ever a product that is trashed or reviewed as a total waste of money. Nope.
MS only has money, and that is what they use. There is no free thinking PC writers. 99.9% are getting some sort of payment from MS, IMO.
The Economist is a great magazine but conservative to a fault. If all the old-school Microsoft geezer investors cashed out msft for aapl a couple years ago they’d be twice as rich. Explaining to these Mr Hoopers that Windows is the past and OS X is the future is always met with the sound of crickets.
Zune Tag’s p-nis is orange from eating corn curls while reading Playboy!
It’s obvious that the Economist is taking the perspective of a current Windows sufferer who does not want to learn something new. If the goal is to replace Windows XP with something new that works just like Windows, well that’s certainly not Mac OS X (thankfully).
Unfortunately, a lot Windows users probably fit the “don’t want to bother learning something new” mold. But by copying Apple so closely, Microsoft may be making it easier for the next generation (post-Vista) to switch to Mac OS X (post-Leopard) with less hesitation.
note: ZuneTang is a die-hard OSX’er who posts only to provoke silly discussion. He had me going for a while too.
The Economist is living in dreamland…
Windows has never been easy to use or easy to maintain, PERIOD! Microsoft could be easily compared to McDonalds; they sell more cheeseburgers (I mean OS licenses) than anyone else in the world, but lack good quality in the delivery of their products. Think about it for a second, you go to McDonalds and you see that fancy picture of the product you’re about to buy, but what you end up with is nothing like that of the fancy dressed cheeseburger on display up on the menu. Microsoft is no different!
Of course I’d eat McDonalds cheeseburgers over computing on Windows any day. Ronald McDonald is WAY cooler than Microsoft Bob
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Good Lord that article is horribly written.
“Included too are better parental controls, a built-in DVD maker, and lots of other improvements.”
huh? What is this, a grade school book report?
Then it goes into paragraphs discussing how many lines of code various systems have.
huh?
No author byline for the article.
huh?
Basically, it was written by The Economist marketing department, it should’ve been labeled as such, and is a mockery of basic journalism.
Vista simplicity? I’ve heard more reviews calling Vista confusing and unorganized. I have never read anyone printing an article about Vista and writing it was simple to use. Was this guy smoking crack or what?
If it’s so easy to use, then why does each copy of the OS sold creates 8 to 12 IT jobs? Funny, The Economist can’t do simple math.
I couldn’t resist sending a short note to the Economist’s Editorial Dept. It read:
The article “Why Windows rules the world,” which apppeared on your Science & Technology page on 12/22, was based on such a poor understanding of the subject matter that one could be forgiven for wondering if the article was really meant as a joke. Assuming that it was not, you are by no means benefiting your readers by publishing a “technology” article whose author has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
Vista is all looks and no feel.
MW: “more” of the same
The Economist is actually the most well written magazine in the world – by far. I am a subscriber – and it is generally quite critical of Microsoft. And I wouldn’t call a conservative rag – it is classically liberal. But I had to laugh reading the article. In saying this, I have not used Vista and everything the article says could be true.
Anyway, I don’t understand his point about Vista having less number of lines of code than OSX. No user actually cares – the keys are ease of user experience, security and allowing the user to achieve what he or she wants.
The article is ultimately pointless but is probably right in saying that most Windows users will stick with Windows.
This is a reasonably objective and well-written article that explains the differences in operating systems to the end user. It’s a short technology piece on what to expect in Vista and possible in Leopard. That’s all.
By the way, Apple advertises heavily in the Economist.
“One last jab to you Apple icons – none of you could find your way from the front to the back of a C++ manual.”
that’s actually a complement.
Hi, it’s me in LA, and I, for one, will be standing in line for my copy of Vista. I want to be welcomed to the social with open arms.
I, too, will be standing in line for my copy of Vista. I want to be welcomed to the social with open arms.
I can lick my own butt. Your dog is jealous of me. You can only do these things if you are a Vista user. It’s true.
What’s Zune ‘The Talking Anus’ Tang squirting on about now?
I want to be welcomed into Vista arms, too. I will be joining the others in our little Vista tent outside best buy the night of the big release.
I want in on the vista too. Don’t forget to bring me a zune so we can share.
I want to join the Zune Tangster in the tent, too.
Wow, my tent is getting crowded. Thanks guys.
I hate to be a late comer, but I can join you guys in the Vista tent too? Pretty please? I’ll bring some extra Zunes if you let me.
Please guys, make room for one more in the VISTA Tent: ME!!
First, non computer types should never be allowed to review anything – software or hardware!
Secondly, if given enough time there always some fool out there who going to believe M$’s press release!
Lastly who in the world is going to base a purchase decision on “the economist’ in the first place – save a small handful of beam counters who would know a good thing if it hit them on the head!
If Apple has to give up a market – why not the bean counters – they don’t get it anyway!
So, here’s hoping all will have a safe and happy Holiday Season!
Gosh, gee, I’m so ashamed to ask: Could I join you too in the tent? We could have cock ring tossing contest and an impromptu daisy chain.
Jesus, who let the dogs out??
Maybe the Economist meant “ease of use” for hackers: cf.,
Hackers Selling Vista Zero-Day Exploi
and
Vista Exploit Surfaces on Russian Hacker Site
from Windows fan-newz site eWeek.
After all they’re just economist. They have no sense of art nor even brain.
The person who posted with my name at 5:56 is not the real Toasty! He is an Imposter!
Toasty!
P.S. Vista still sux. And your tent will implode.
No doubt about it. If you make a living in the malware industry, Vista is the shizzle. Think about it for a minute. Security experts hate Apple. There are a couple of cranks (LMH and Kevin Finisterre) out there who are calling Jan, 2007, the Month of Apple FUD. They plan to announce an undocumented Mac OS X bug every day in January. 31 bugs in a month won’t feed a whole security industry. They need Windoze.
Any idiot can write malware for Microsoft’s stuff, and a lot of them do. I’m with Zune Tang. Bring on Vista. And Zune. I hope Microsoft is working on a phone, too.
Full Disclosure: I own a nice little pile of Apple stock.
“For some reason, British publications loathe Apple”
Yeah, it certainly seems that way at times. Strange how virtually all of the newspapers in the UK use Macs to lay out their publications though. Yet we see these anti-Mac comments. I really do believe it’s to get a rise out of the Mac faithful though and sell newspapers.
It pisses me off.
It would be nice to find a British newspaper that is outwardly Pro Mac. I would subscribe to it.
Anybody know of a British Newspaper that is Pro Apple?
What about “The Independant”.
Friends,
Zune Tang floats on this board as a joke to make an angry fool of us all.
-me
Zune Dood, whatever do you mean:
“One last jab to you Apple icons – none of you could find your way from the front to the back of a C++ manual.”
Of course we couldn’t. not any more anyway. C++ is what Macs used to often use for applications. Since Apple bought NeXT Cocoa Apps are now mainly programmed using Objective-C.
http://www.gnustep.org/resources/ObjCFun.html
Yes Objective C is a superset of C . Basically C with Smalltalk OOP bindings so any issues with C can also be in any Objective C source code. But C++ is a bastardised version of C. It doesn’t conform to ANSI C. Objective C does.
Have fun with your C++ manual Zuney.
People, people, people…
It just doesn’t matter. Apple machines can run Windows, now. People don’t have to choose anymore whether to own a Mac or use Windows. They can do both. And it won’t cost them much more than a decently appointed Windows machine to do it.
Windows now has to compete with the Mac OS for real. When people can run both systems side-by-side while they scratch themselves and have their first cup of coffee — Windows is going to get annihilated.
By the way, VISTA is an acronym for: Viruses, Infestations, Spyware,Trojan horses, Adware.
Hey guys. This British newspaper article is quite Pro Mac.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article2043550.ece
This one is quite Anti Vista:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/microsoft/Story/0,,1934163,00.html
I guess British Newspapers are not as Pro MS and anti-Mac as we thought.
Hmmm..How many physical stores does Apple have v Microsoft?
I don’t actually know the numbers, but I am sure I have yet to see a Microsoft store in some mall somewhere and my point being that the Apple stores have evening events with live music by some famous bands as well as upcoming groups and to me this is the Social and I welcomed this 3 years ago! Not to mention the flashmobbers – as an iPod owner I could dance with a complete stranger in a public place, unannounced – how is that for being social!
Welcome to the Social where I can share my music on a CD of around 80mins in total, around 20 tracks, and can be used as often as the receiver wants to. Along with making an iMix of a similar number of tracks for my entire home country to share music with.
Microsoft is and will always be an ‘also-ran’ from now on. Welcome to the Social, there’s no one here as nobody answered the invite. More so now that the Zune comes with free gay porn – who said us Macheads were gay?
As for Vista – 5 years out of date already, might as well compare it with Cheetah and not Tiger.
“These may be complex in design—and full of bugs to boot—but, boy, are they easy to use and maintain.” BUUUUUWWWAAAHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that line!!!! Is this person on crack or what!!!???? OMG that was just TOO FUNNY!!!!! : )
Every time Microsoft jumps into a hardware market they further dilute their ability to concentrate on what was once their forté, software.
Microsoft Office is bloatware. Windows is a house of cards. They’re losing money on the XBox. Zune sucks; even the Microsoft lapdogs in the media have only given it lukewarm reviews. The only selling point for Zune is that is isn’t an iPod.
As long as Microsoft continues to believe they are more important than their customers, they will continue to become less and less relevant.
And this comes from what’s considered a good magazine. It was an illusion afterall….
What a bunch of utter incompetent and biased journos. Real schumcks.
I love my Mac but the start menu is just better.
Once you learn to manipulate your Mac(keep in mind the first time users) the start menu seems to such more and more.
Do you have any idea how many times I have been asked “how do I get to the rest of the programs”?
This the most basic of tasks why is it so fucking complex.
In most cases the Mac is better organized but this is the one place it fails badly.
Apple if you are listening, please fix this.
BAC(and I’m a switcher)
I wish this guy calling himself Zune Tang would stop impersonating me. I am the real Zune Tang. Welcome to my Teabagging social!
@ wall street guy.
I think this might be of interest to you.
please read
I AM THE REAL ZUNE TANG…
STOP impersonating me!
Welcome to the social
Ah, the vista social hangout for lemmings. I know they don’t drink cool aid, so I wonder what they put into the Tang? I don’t know but it sure must send you to outer space.
to “hanging in there”
are you serious ?
this Economist article is as biased (and false) as the Vista report
i bet you could find an article in the Economist reporting that British cuisine is the world’s best
So….
Zune Tang works for The Economist?
I didn’t even know they had a humor section.
Astroturf… Sheer astroturf!
Doesn’t say a whole lot about a so called apple site where anyone can be anyone and steal each others handles. Seems like a recipe for disaster. BTW, I am the real Zune Tang. Or am I? LOL
welcum to da sosial dizease, hick!
it’s really hard to believe that an article that contains such phrases as:
“So, even if 90% of them were squished during the extensive testing programme, Vista will hit the shelves with at least a quarter of a million bugs in it.”
is a serious endorsment of vista.
it’s really hard to believe that an article that contains such phrases as:
“So, even if 90% of them were squished during the extensive testing programme, Vista will hit the shelves with at least a quarter of a million bugs in it.”
is a serious endorsment of vista.
p.s i don’t believe one second that the british media is “anti mac”, the BBC talks about podcasts every day (todays news at 6 and 10 for example), they praise the iPod.
they don’t talk much about the mac at all actually, they seem to love the WII, and second life, i did not hear anything about macs or pc’s in months.
obviously the guardian is pro mac, like most left and center newspapers in the world.
Everyone has got it all wrong. VISTA is not a the new Windows OS, it is in fact a dish washing detergent. But you may wash your windows with it if you wish. But be carely, it may leave streaks
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You don’t know the history of poon tang. I do.
The Economist are just a bunch of conservative laissez-faire fat cats. Microsoft is their wet dream.
BAC: Drag the Applications folder to the right of the Dock divider, near the Trash. That will give you a pop-up menu of all your apps.
Otherwise, use Spotlight (which MS has emulated in Vista)…
“Windows being easy to use and maintain” his windows computer probably maintained by a sys admin. How else can it be easy to maintain??
… or click once on Finder icon, once on Applications shortcut in the Sidebar – there’s two-click access to all your apps!
I feel inclined to agree with BAC. Getting to the apps was one of my biggest gripes with OS X before I decided to really get into it (years before switching this year, that is).
Finder with its friendly-face icon isn’t exactly the most intuitive way to get to the apps. I’m very satisfied with it now, but beginners almost always seem lost with the OS X desktop, if you don’t tell them where to look for stuff. I don’t think this is because of the lack of a windozy Start-button they usually are accustomed to, there’s just no obvious place to start.
Un-obviousness is the problem of Finder. Maybe they should just dump the Happy Mac icon and put an Apple logo in its place for Finder. People recognise the apple, and would go and click it intuitively right away.
Perhaps, but the Macintosh HD is on the desktop by default and would seem an obvious place to start. The Mac keeps the interface simple by promoting exploratory learning, whereas Windows throws all the options in your face and clutters up the workspace.
I love the Start menu. It makes all those reboots much easier.
True, but to many a Mac novice a HD is a technical thingy –> scaaaaaaary! Windows blows, but a start-button doesn’t exactly clutter up your desktop. I wouldn’t like to see a Windows Start-menu like way to launch apps on Macs, though. Just a logical starting point for n00bs.
This is all waaaaaay too serious for me. Over here, where I hang out, we just laugh at all this stuff.
This is all waaaaaay too serious for me. Over here, where I hang out, we just laugh at all this stuff.
This is all waaaaaay too serious for me. Over here, where I hang out, we just laugh at all this stuff.
Hmmm. Link no workee. Oh, well. The “From” link works. This one should. Unless of course I’m still one cup of coffee out of my functional zone.
Hmmm. Link no workee. Oh, well. The “From” link works. This one should. Unless of course I’m still one cup of coffee out of my functional zone.
Hmmm. Link no workee. Oh, well. The “From” link works. This one should. Unless of course I’m still one cup of coffee out of my functional zone.
Stick to reporting on economics Economist.
Leave the tech to credible and reliable sources.
I’ll hire Luca Brasi to get Leopard before official release.
And GTA 4.
Hey Zune Tang,
Let me guess, you’ve got that big jar of Bill Gates Vaseline sit tight next your Vista ready PC eh? I’m sure the Zune has already found its new protective case made by.. yep you got it right homie! its the new Bill Gates Vaseline case cover for Zune!
Sheesh, one magazine write a pro-Vista article and the site here launches into a xenophobic anti-Brit rant. WTF? Fucking Fat, Stupid, God-bothering, Shallow, Ignorant Yanks. Is it true the only culture in the USA is yoghurt?
No. We also have bread mold and Rosie O’Donnell.
Stupid and ignorant. Dang.
No. We also have bread mold and Rosie O’Donnell.
Stupid and ignorant. Dang.
No. We also have bread mold and Rosie O’Donnell.
Stupid and ignorant. Dang.
And since when has Windows been easy to maintain?
I use to spend 5-10hrs/week fixing it. Real easy.
The Windows drones keep forgetting (Happens when you know nothing about the Mac) that a good portion of us can run Windows on our Macs at the same time as OSX.
I have Vista installed on my MacBook Pro C2D. I also have XP Pro installed on it, along with OSX.
The current incarnation of Vista is definitely not ready for prime time, and definitely not in the same league as Tiger, leave alone Leopard!
You see poor, clueless Windows tools… You keep forgetting that unlike yourselves, Mac users are INFORMED computer users who in many cases actually OWN and USE BOTH operating systems.
We hands-down prefer OSX over Windows for solid, logical, tangible reasons.
We don’t bash Windows out of ignorance like you folks bash the Mac. Our opinions carry far more weight because we actually take the time to compare the two systems in real world use.
Try it sometime. It will definitely help improve your current image as a bunch of clueless, ignorant tools. ;o)
Wow I just got a great blow job from the new corporate version of Windows. Mac can’t do that.
Start Button? You do know that there are applications where you can put in the dock that can give you access to programs and files that you can customize such as DockLauncher.
…Or use Namely (excellent) or even Spotlight itself (slow IMO) to launch any app.
In one sense, BAC is right that it seems harder to launch apps from anywhere in OS X (meaning you don’t have to be in Finder). That was the beauty of the modifiable Apple Menu before OS X came along and essentially locked it down.
The “Applications folder in your Dock option” is a fine one, as others have mentioned above; yet it is SLOW on most of the Macs in use today (remember that not everyone has a <2 yr old Mac), especially with many nested folders in the Applications folder. It is the closest thing to the Start menu in Windows, though.
I have tried all kinds of App-launchers, but Namely is the best I have found. It’s simple and works very fast as long as you choose the “Launch at Login” option and never Quit it. I set the shortcut key to Command-tilde, which is an easy to remember shortcut for those people who are already accustomed to the Command-Tab app-switcher.
/my2c
To all of the Zune Tangs. You are pointless making stupid comments about Vista vs OSX, when first, none of us have seen the latest Leopard features, and second, both OS’s will run on the Mac. You are just taking up oxygen and energy in this world talking and typing about the Zune…you should instead be on the Creative site, because that is the only thing the Zune is competing with…fact…the last month has proved that there IS NO social, so shut up about that!! Now, if you wanna hang out and talk about 3rd party conglomerate hardware such as Dell buyout Alienware and have some facts about building your own hardware system, then lets hear something factual and truly discussion argumentative from you. Zune Tangs, you have nothing really to talk about because now the Mac runs everything OSwise and uses most of the same hardware. Unless you are building a high-end gaming system, shut up and go to Macteens, troll.
Sorry, the shortcut mentioned above for Namely should read “Option-Tab”, not “Command-tilde” (which is already reserved by many apps for window rotation).
sleepwalking
The Economist are just a bunch of conservative laissez-faire fat cats. Microsoft is their wet dream.
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LOL… what year is this? Laissez-faire?
Dude.. pick up a book some day
I’ve listened to the Economist weekly podcast a few times. Their take on the news tends to be much more worldly and sophisticated than most Americans (like me) are used to hearing. That said, however, it didn’t change the fact that listening to them for awhile leaves one with a very definite and clear sense of the atmosphere at that organization . . . they’re all a bunch of effete pinheads who seem to have somehow missed (at least in their heart of hearts) the collapse of the British empire, circa 1890.
That fact tends to color their world view in some very strange and startling ways at times. Plus there’s the fact that they seem to take economists seriously.
I’m shaking after reading this article!
The Economist also said that the Zune is the genuine iPod killer and the squirting feature was ingenius.
“Dude.. pick up a book some day”
Sorry pal, but I’ve probably read more in my day than you. Your spelling and punctuation skills are one indicator. And English isn’t even my native language.
And since it’s Christmas, I’ll probably read even more. And that being said, Merry Christmas.
Two new oxymorons:
– Microsoft innovation
– British journalism
I need attention.
“Say, isn’t the Economist a British rag? If it IS, that explains the ludicrously positive spin on the Vista excreta. For some reason, British publications loathe Apple, so any opinion piece from them will necessarily praise MonkeySoft and pan Mac/iPod/etc.” – Randian
Hold your dick for a moment, Randian… and this goes to all the Mac drones out there… MDN will necessarily praise Apple, and pan Windows/Zune/etc. If you can’t see where I’m going with this, then I almost feel sorry for you.
Anyway, you may as well accept the fact that Windows is, and always has been, the superior OS.
I need help. Does anyone else out there have their Zune manual handy? It won’t play. It won’t sync. It’s brown. I can’t find anybody to squirt, so I just stay at home and squirt myself. Anybody??
Thank you for contacting Zune International Technical Support (ZITS).
Being brown is one of the Zune problems ZITS cannot help with. The inability to boot the software, play music or sync is addressed on the cover of the manual, where it says “Microsoft.”
In order to match you up with someone to “squirt,” we’ll need to know your exact geographical location at this moment and the genre you wish to squirt. If we simultaneously receive another call from someone whose Zune is actually working seeking to receive a “squirt” in that genre within 15 feet of your exact geographical location, ZITS will let you know.
Please understand that the odds of this happening are roughly equivalent to having a bolt of lightning incinerate the three winning lottery tickets in your left hand while you’re singing Mass in Latin.
Welcome to the social.
ZITS.
Thank you for contacting Zune International Technical Support (ZITS).
Being brown is one of the Zune problems ZITS cannot help with. The inability to boot the software, play music or sync is addressed on the cover of the manual, where it says “Microsoft.”
In order to match you up with someone to “squirt,” we’ll need to know your exact geographical location at this moment and the genre you wish to squirt. If we simultaneously receive another call from someone whose Zune is actually working seeking to receive a “squirt” in that genre within 15 feet of your exact geographical location, ZITS will let you know.
Please understand that the odds of this happening are roughly equivalent to having a bolt of lightning incinerate the three winning lottery tickets in your left hand while you’re singing Mass in Latin.
Welcome to the social.
ZITS.
Thank you for contacting Zune International Technical Support (ZITS).
Being brown is one of the Zune problems ZITS cannot help with. The inability to boot the software, play music or sync is addressed on the cover of the manual, where it says “Microsoft.”
In order to match you up with someone to “squirt,” we’ll need to know your exact geographical location at this moment and the genre you wish to squirt. If we simultaneously receive another call from someone whose Zune is actually working seeking to receive a “squirt” in that genre within 15 feet of your exact geographical location, ZITS will let you know.
Please understand that the odds of this happening are roughly equivalent to having a bolt of lightning incinerate the three winning lottery tickets in your left hand while you’re singing Mass in Latin.
Welcome to the social.
ZITS.
How come the article isn’t attributed to any specific author? I wonder if this is an indication of low journalistic and editorial standards at the Economist?
This is more proof positive that the opinions of most accountants are absolutely useless.
I’d like to hope that a bolt of lightning strikes Zune Tang’s tent full of gay, in-bred orgy partakers waiting for the Vista social disgrace, but perhaps I’m being too optimistic.
Now I know why I always throw away all those offers The Economist keeps sending me trying to get me to re-subscribe…..
I think this is a clear demonstration of their lack of insight and fact based reporting… This certainly makes me question all their other reporting….
They also use a poor grade of ink. They are skinny white guys who can’t dance. They underpay their domestic servants. Some of them drive Chevrolets and listen to Garth Brooks records when no one is around. They pick their noses.
I don’t like any of them.
They also use a poor grade of ink. They are skinny white guys who can’t dance. They underpay their domestic servants. Some of them drive Chevrolets and listen to Garth Brooks records when no one is around. They pick their noses.
I don’t like any of them.
They also use a poor grade of ink. They are skinny white guys who can’t dance. They underpay their domestic servants. Some of them drive Chevrolets and listen to Garth Brooks records when no one is around. They pick their noses.
I don’t like any of them.
The Economist is written for economists and other pencil necks, none of whom would recognize satire if it bit them on the ass. If they pass the regularly administered satire tests, they are fired. The Economist knows its audience. Satire is off-limits.