VUUM Audio introduces a vacuum tube amplifier stereo system featuring iPod docking station

Future meet the past. The VUUM Audio vacuum tube amplifier stereo system provides audiophile quality sound in a hi-fi stereo system designed to work with your iPod, MP3 player and other audio components (CD, DVD players, Satellite receivers etc.). According to VUUM, the system delivers glowing sound with real bass, natural midrange and dynamic highs.

The CAD $799.99 system comprises of a vacuum tube amplifier (15W x2) with dual inputs, an adjustable iPod docking station that allows for charging of your iPod with video output to connect a video enabled iPod to your TV, a pair of speakers in a “piano finish” cabinet, 27 key full function remote control, dust brush and glove cleaning kit, RCA cables and a pair of high quality speakers cables with banana ends.

More information: http://www.vuumaudio.com

83 Comments

  1. The Skipper: Gilligan, pedal faster.

    Professor: Skipper, we don’t have the correct gear ration to generate the power necessary to charge our iPod. In order to compensate for Gilligans weak, girly legs we need a new coconut gearing system.

    The Skipper: Faster, Gilligan, Faster

    – Cut to Gilligan (with sped up film sequence) speeding away into the lagoon with Ipod dragging behind.

    -end credits

  2. That appears to be a hybrid solid state amp with a vacuum tube driver stage … a proper 15 watt vacuum tube amp would be a lot bigger/heavier/more-awesome. My 15 watt tube amps weigh a total of ~60 lbs ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”raspberry” style=”border:0;” />

  3. The Marshall Sound…only kidding.

    I already plug my iPod into my Marshall (all tube amp).

    CitizenX dont compare 15 watts tube with 15 watts solid state. While I can’t imagine that the speakers or power supply is capable of pushing a true 15 watts of sonic power through this little amp, what do I know.
    By comparison, my crappy little practice amp is a little Marshall 20 watt tube/solid state combo (AVT20) that’s just a single ECC83 valve in the preamp stage. I don’t mind saying It is mind crushingly loud.

    My main amp is a Marshall DSL50 (watts) head on a 4×12 cab, Is it loud? forget about it!!!

  4. No one here can tell the difference between 256 AAC and uncompressed CD audio. Period.

    So this amp would probably make your iPod sound wonderful.

    I didn’t realize just how good an iPod sounded ’til I picked up a pair of Etymotic ER4P’s. Wow, is all I can say.

    S

  5. Jon
    It claims to have a tube amp, not pre amp, and uses three tubes for 15×2 watts with 50 peak. Soounds about right to me. Couldn’t find the weight.

    They did give instructions on waiting for it to warm up. Been awhile since I heard that.

    Reminds me of a medical joke I made up this morning
    It was a digital exam
    But analog was found….

    I also believe the sound of analog-especially tube- to be “fatter” than digital, because for all its cleanliness, there are subtleties that digial misses. (including hiss and pop)

  6. You can also fill your iPod with uncompressed music. which of course would take more room but would keep all the sonic quality of the CD is was ripped from.

    I don’t know why, but tube amps sound wonderful. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can explain it. They almost always have terrible specs when compared to solid state but the sound is so good.

  7. i love high end electronics.

    i like some solid state, some tubes but this is just an expensive, show-offy, looky what i can do with my extra money, thing-a-ma-bob. compressed files are convenient and i use them but when i really wanna get down and listen i haveta go with a cd or vinyl and a dedicated home system.
    a tube amp for an iPod is overkill.

  8. God.
    Juvenile idiots don’t even know how SUPERIOR a tube-amp is.
    The best systems in the world use tubes.

    You kids better learn a little more before talking and showing how much you don’t know about technology.

    SB

    MDN: “business” as in, you got no business posting if you don’t know about tube amps.

  9. “You cannot beat the sound of a vinyl record played on a stereo with a tube amplifier! And, yes, I am serious – albums have always sounded “richer” than CD’s.”

    Very True. CD’s are just so damn convenient though.

    “No one here can tell the difference between 256 AAC and uncompressed CD audio. Period.”

    If you’re buying 128 AAC from the iTS you definitely can. High-end gets killed/phasey and dense mixes also get killed – you lose separation.

  10. TowerTone, it’s definitely a hybrid solid state amp, regardless of what they say. In fact, it’s a slightly reworked Dared MP-5 with an iPod dock. No way could they extract 15 watts from a single 6N1P tube per channel. The tubes drive a typical MOSFET output stage.

  11. tubes have a richer, warmer sound. you midrange through midbass will… well, to fully understand it you’d have to hear it but i’ll tell ya it’s suh-weet! tubes are great for acoustic jazz and symphonic music. mix with a good turntable, serve with single malt scotch.

    solid state is very precise and forward, well suited for rock, r&b. perfect for Jimi Hendrix’s Manic Depression at loud levels.

    if i could i’d own both Conrad-Johnson and McIntosh equipment but i’ve only got a Marantz pocketbook so that’s what i own. but i could not justify a $800 tube amp for an iPod. a Sonic Impact Super T Amp, maybe but not the one above.

  12. You Tube is about as sophisticated as some of you will ever get.
    Too bad.
    So many great things out there to enjoy.

    I know some of you think the Bose noise-cancelling headphones are a work of art, but sadly, like many of today’s technologies, they don’t compare to some of the older ones for music.

    As some of the others have noted, a 180 gram LP with a tube amp/preamp and some solid studio monitors would put you in heaven, musically.

    I personally have a setup with an amp/preamp/CD deck/turntable/speakers that cost $10k.

    That’s all it is – two little channels, and everyone that hears it is blow-away.

    Of course, some of you would be trying to figure out where the rest of the songs were if someone put on a vinyl LP and played it for you…

  13. CitizenX:

    Vinyl sounds so good because the audio signal has to be compressed, not like digital compression of course where you lose real bits of info that get reconstructed on playback, but compressed so the dynamic range is reduced, significantly. This is necessary because of the limitations of vinyl to hold information. You can record very loud signals onto vinyl, but they would make the needle jump of the record, violently. lol

    Some music sounds wonderful on vinyl, especially a band like, say, Curve where there’s so much going on–a wall of sound. But for classical, or music with soft passages, records are just awful. You just cannot beat the dynamic range of digital. Period.

    Having said that, CDs, in their present form, are 1970’s technology. We should be listening to 192kHz by now, not 44.1kHz. Upping the d/a conversion from 16 to say, 24 bit, would increase the dynamic range significantly. It would sound like real, live music.

    But record companies probably don’t WANT us to have original master quality recordings in our homes for fear of piracy, I guess. Who knows. I’ve been lazy the last few years. I really need to check out SACD and DVD Audio, asap.

    Me in LA:

    Tube amps are PERFECT for amplifying digital sources because they make the sound incredibly warm. Digital can sound accurate, but very cold and almost shrill. Tube amps are NOT accurate at all. They color the sound too much. So, you don’t master CDs with a tube amp. But DAMN a tube amp makes music sound AMAZING!

    Wish I could afford one. 🙁

  14. Yup, tubes are the shit!
    Certain harmonic frequencies are saturated, which results in the hard-t0-describe-experience that most refer to as sounding “softer” or “less harsh”; (although tubes in the PRE AMP stage have a much more dramatic effect.

    One caveat about tubes: it becomes an obsession.
    How else do I justify $80 on ebay for a N.O.S. Mullard 12ax7 (ECC83) original factory military-grade tube?
    (really. My wife wants to know. Any suggestions?)

    Mudflapper- WAY WRONG.
    AAC? OMG, if I could make money from this= A/B test, I can tell you in 5 seconds.

    I prefer vinyl, but hey- impractical.
    As long asencoded in AIFF (CD standard) or APPLE LOSSLESS!!!! (which takes half the space, and ID virtually indidtinguishable from AIFF) is used.

  15. Every time I hear “richer, warmer sound”, my bulls**t-alarm goes off. News flash: “richer, warmer” = distortion! The “warmer” sound of the LP comes from the distortion caused by the needle wobbling around in the groove. You can apply the exact same distortion to digitally recorded music via a digital filter!

    But, of course, anytime someone points this out, the audiophiles poo-pooh them as idiots who just don’t understand audio technology. I swear, the audiophile’s capacity for self-delusion is simply amazing.

  16. I have a bunch of MFSL vinyl and some of their CDs.
    Nothing like it.
    While Classical sounds great digitally – you don’t have the hiss on DDD and you can hear fingers on frets and the like – amazing, especially on a set of cans that cut out all the world.

    As for tubes – a lot of them are now Russian-made, and frankly, pretty good.

    I just spend $600 on five signed classic vinyl discs…not sure if it’s obsession, but there’s something about holding the LP and looking at the artwork and listening to something insanely good that makes music all the more better.

    I’d never live without an iPod, but it’s no replacement for true audio gear.

  17. I miss my Sansui QR4500 Quadraphonic receiver that my dad picked up while in ‘Nam. Four 5 way spekers, two front, two rear. And for added stereo power, I had a couple of Pioneer 4 ways sacked on top of the front Sansuis. All had 12″ bass cones. The amp wasn’t tube, but with my Garrard changer (replaced by a Technics direct drive semi-automatic with a B&O cartridge) and an Akai casette deck that actually turned the tape over to play the other side(head alignment was supposedly better that way) and a Pioneer 10″ and 7″ reel to reel, I had the baddest system in high school.

    Matter of fact, we lived only about fourty yards from a RR track right at a crossing, so it was blowing more than Pxxxs somedays, yet I could drowned it out in that old wood shack we lived in. I’m not so sure the train couldn’t hear me!

    When playing Grand Funks “Closer to Home” reel, it sounded like Mark, Don and Mel were in there with me. Aerosmith vinyl, Miles Davis on cassette.

    Ooops. Did I type that out loud?

    MW:four oh, yeah, the Fab Four’s Sgt Pepper and……

  18. TT-
    who’d know your a grand funk fan!?!

    One of the best albums ever- the red album.

    LordRobin-
    No. not bullshit. But yes, distortion. HARMONIC distortion. Big difference.

    Me in LA-

    YES! World of difference with classical.
    My favorites- Copeland, Orff, Vaughn Williams, Delius, Barber, Rimsky-Korsakov!, RESPIGHI!!!
    (yes, romantic and late romantic)

    Although, FZ is the best.

  19. And wow and flutter with the turntables..

    got a 12ax7 on the front end of my SWR, not exactly a Mesa Boogie or a Portaflex, but it definately gives off the warmth and fatness that gives the solid state output more oomph.

    Back to music, my first experiece with the CD’s limitations was ZZ Tops Tres Hombres and First Album(these were before they became ZZ Pop). Thin and Tin was the sound, not good for the blues music, although I felt a little lower when I heard it, and forget about SRV’s “Dirty Pool”cut.

    On the other hand, those LPs skipped like a sunna bitch in my 69 Delta 88. Of couse, with a 455 in it, so did my teeth.

  20. Yup. 1rst CD I heard was RUSH. In a department store. Terrible.

    ZZ Top- didn’t care for the 1rst, but I was 14 when Tres Hombres came out, and as a guitarist, it blew my mind, (not exactly the same way as “are you experienced” or “Axis: bold as love”, at ages 8 &9), but it was new and different (to me) none the less. Then I discovered “Rio Grande Mud”. Oh, yeah.

    Yes, they went “pop”, but 2000’s “Rythemeen” brought it back home.

    BTW- “Tres Hombres” was remastered.
    Ruined. (Added a gated snare drum on ALL TRACKS)

  21. exactly, roll in “La Grange” was ruined.

    I am on my 4th copy of the Allman’s Fillmore collection-it’s been changed twice since the original, and I think they did a pretty good job soundwise with it. Of course, Duane coulda farted and it woulda sounded like Vivaldi to me…

  22. I am enthusiastic about this unit, but dismayed by the false advertsing.

    As mentioned above it is a hybrid amp, the 2 x 15W (plenty BTW if you have decently efficient speakers) being solid state of some sort — they wouldn’t let me take the bottom off o have a closer look.

    The unit looks well built, but i’m not enthused about the speakers. The amp is seaparate from the dock. The dock has analog outputs and the amp is essentially a 2 input integrated with a tube front end to something solid state.

    The cover gets in the way of the indicator tube, making it much less cool — one would hope it is easily removable.

    If i were to do something like this i’d likely do a cathode follewer into an LM1875 chip amp.

    Also of note is that a 6N1P is not equivalent to an ECC85 — one only has to look at the curves to realize this.

    dave

    http://www.planet10-hifi.com

  23. Jim

    Thanks, but I am not Ampar by a long shot. (I don’t have his patience, just ask Frank) but I am rather proud of that last version of my digital/analog joke.

    Also, I had a Realistic under dash cassette player (stock in dash AM/FM radio) with a pair of Jensen Triaxial 6×9’s in the deck.

    Good times.

  24. Joints? JOINTS?

    With gas damn near 80 cents a gallon, who could afford more than one?
    That wouldn’t leave enough dough for the Tuborg Gold, Preludes and shrooms. Joints. I guess you rolled out of a three finger lid, too, Mr Dead Presidents? lol

    Yep, good times. Now the only drugs I can do are paid for by Workers Comp. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”cool smile” style=”border:0;” />

    Well, it’s gettin late, I better blow this joint…

  25. >You cannot beat the sound of a vinyl record played on a stereo with a tube amplifier! And, yes, I am serious – albums have always sounded “richer” than CD’s.

    Agreed. The best amps today have tubes in them…. and the fact that there are literally 100s of times as many choices for hi-end turntables today as when vinyl was declared dead in the early ’80s goes a long way to establishing that CDs are second class (given the inherent technology it is actually amazing that a CD can sound as good as they can today with a really good CD player)

    > Kind of a waste of a good amp playing compressed files. Why only 15 watts though?

    I think it should be against the rules to put anything but lossless files on your iPod.

    Trends in the last 10 years wrt amplifiers seems to support the generalizized supposition that amplifier quality is inversly proportional to power output. Many of the very best amps are 2-20W. With normal listening levels you are really only using milliwatts with a decently efficient speaker.

    I’m convinced that many of the big inefficient speakers and big welder-like amps are a reflection of the male tendency to strive to be able to say “mine is bigger”

    dave

  26. I’m holding out for a hand crank speaker system for the ipod

    Don’t laugh. Someone’s bound to adapt an antique wind-up record player to the iPod.

    IMO playing an iPod through vacuum tubes seems as anachronistic as starting a hybrid car with a crank. But when it comes to music sometimes the old ways are better.

  27. I was really into the whole audiophile scene in the 90’s. It’s amazing how much better music can sound with high quality equipment. I spent a lot of money on my stuff, although I didn’t get into the tube amps. I did buy a bunch of expensive vinyl LPs though. The sound could be utterly fantastic. That is, until they start to wear.
    The thought of putting music on a computer seemed like the most idiotic idea I had ever heard of at the time. Well, that was then. Right now I am sending tunes from my iBook to my living room stereo rig via Airport Express. Also have tons of music on external hard drives and an iPod. I even use USB flash drives to feed music to my Kenwood car stereo. I might not be getting the audiophile quality I was back then, but now I can listen to my music anywhere. And I don’t have to be sitting in the ‘sweet spot’ either.
    Some people are hardware lovers, and some are music lovers. Although they aren’t mutually exclusive, I now lean towards the music. It’s a lot more enjoyable for me.

  28. Yes, all other things being equal, tubes introduce harmonic distortion which is often more pleasing to the ear than solid state. But sticking a tube in a crappy amp doesn’t make it better – and that’s assuming the tube is a good one. There is so much poorly designed music gear out there where they stick a cheap valve in so they can say “it’s got a tube!”. Well thanks, but I’ll use my ears – a well-designed solid-state amp will sound better that a poorly-designed tube one.

    MW=”record”. Nuff said!

  29. I plug my iPod into my Peavy Classic 50 (watt) stack and my neighborhood shakes and about ‘6’.
    15 watts of tube power will be plenty for most people, but I wish it came in tweed.

    -c

    MW: ‘her’ (Zune squirted all over me)

  30. Always Right:

    More like sometimes wrong. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”wink” style=”border:0;” />

    I wish I knew you so I could set up a test for your ears with 10 tracks encoded in aiff and 256 AAC. I’d even let you pick the music. I truly doubt you could tell the difference. Not because I doubt your expertise or your sincerity, but because I believe it is physiologically impossible for most human ears to tell the difference between those 2 formats.

    anaknipedro: I’m not sure why but the Outback comment made me LOL. Caught me by surprise. Thanks.

    m

  31. mudflapper-
    I hear what you’re saying (tee hee hee), but I most definately can. MOST people can’t.
    It’s not expertise, and it’s acually a curse of sorts. I’m anal about sound.

    I know several other musicians who can tell, too.

    Now as I stated before, Apple Lossless- that’s another story.
    VERY impressive.

  32. A R
    Anal about sound?
    Pull your head out, man…..

    Kidding of course.
    I used to have the same problem, until years of holding the low end in everthing from C+W to fusion jazz bands and some industrial work took care of that for me.

    I can tell that my iMac , while pushing iTunes through my Kenwood reciever and two Bose and a Kenwood sub sound absolutely ok, and that’s all. (I know this isn’t “hi-fi”, but it IS just my office) while a CD blows the hair back (picture a Maxell ad)
    to be fair, some of my tunes are 128k, some lossless, but most are 192k.
    (A man’s gotta save a some of his hard drive for other stuff, my grandpa always said.)

  33. Oh, for crying out loud…

    If you “golden ears” prats want the sound of a vinyl record, then just use a filter that rolls off the frequencies that are above the ability of a cutting head to track. Oh, and be sure to add the clicks and pops that come from dirt in the grooves, not to mention the speed variations in the turntable, and the reduction of dynamic range as you get closer to the center of the record and the tracking velocity is reduced. Oh, I almost forgot the very limited stereo separation, and who can forget tracking error?

    I know you people love to try to sound all artsy and sophisticated while singing the praises of antiquated technology, so how about regaling us with your fond reminiscences of horse-drawn carts and whale-oil lamps while you’re at it?
    -jcr

  34. I remember when people were polite….

    That does remind me of the care I use to give my “black gold”. I kept them in an anti-static sleeve, some that sealed like a ziplock, Would routinely clean them with my Discwahser or Zerostat, check the anti skate to correct rumble and the balance to ensure good audio and longer life for the needle and LP, clean the entire platter and dustcover, and of course set the speed correction. Then I had kids.

  35. >If you “golden ears” prats want the sound of a vinyl record, then just use a filter that rolls off the frequencies that are above the ability of a cutting head to track. Oh, and be sure to add the clicks and pops that come from dirt in the grooves, not to mention the speed variations in the turntable, and the reduction of dynamic range as you get closer to the center of the record and the tracking velocity is reduced. Oh, I almost forgot the very limited stereo separation, and who can forget tracking error?

    You know not of what you speak. A record will suffer frm some of that, FR is not one of them + an analog recording has not suffered by being decimated into digital — a process akin to what happens when you take the info off a CD & throw 90% of it away to make a 128 MP3… but for those that can’t (or won’t) hear the difference between that MP3 and the CD (or an LP) and are happy with a clock radio all the power to you … as long as you enjoy the music.

    dave

  36. Wow, this thread is out of control … tubes vs. solid state is apparently a touchy issue. So much arrogance here — makes me want to contribute my own!

    I do want to clear up a few things about tubes… a properly designed audio tube amp, driving appropriate speakers, does NOT produce tons of harmonic distortion, or even necessarily sound “warm”. Not only that, a tube amp is just as capable of sounding harsh/awful/bright/dry as a solid state amp (either due to it’s own badness, or due to the nature of the source) — music doesn’t magically turn into technicolor syrup upon entering a tube. Tube amps don’t kill the high frequencies either; my amps reproduce a signal to ~100kHz with minimal roll-off… and they were made in 1954.

    Last night I was listening to Boris’ “Akuma No Uta” via tube preamp and power amps, and I assure you it was ripping my ears off without the slightest touch of warmth or euphonic distortion.

  37. Back off, guys, he’s got a web page….

    DanDrums (cool name)
    I think the argument is that converting analog recordings to digital seems to sonically color them, whether they are remastered or not, and if you are a first time listener of that particular CD, you might not mind the change. However, if you had the original analog, the transition can seem a little “cold”, “hollow”, “dry”. Good luck figuring out what the hell that means, just some of the descriptions I have heard for years.

    I am sure you are right on the digital to analog conversion, you gain nothing. The loss is in the analog to digital.

  38. The point I was trying to make with the link is that I run a recording studio so ‘Garbage in – garbage out’ is a well used phrase where I work.

    The truth about analogue (vinyl) and digital (CD) is that vinyl is in fact a long natural constant source of sound, ie the needle never leaves the groove of the record as it’s being played whereas CD’s are encoded at 44.1KB per second that means that that when a disk is being played, a laser reads a new piece of data off it 44,100 times every second. To the ear it sound like a constant steady stream of sound but it is actualy being fed to us in ‘bits’ which is where CD’S get their slightly ‘gritty’ or brash sound from.

    Using 44 or 48 KB/S increases the flow of bits on to a recording which makes the sound a bit smoother which is what we record at in the studio. It’s later recuced down to 44.1 for the master which is what all vinyl and CD’s are made from so modern recordings sound the same in theory off vinyl or CD but pre-digital recordings sound better off CD’s.

    Vinyl also has a lower frequency responce than CD. The sub bass can be pressed into vinyl more acurately than CD’s which ignore anything below 20HZ which is why dance DJ’s prefer the bass thud of records over CD’s in clubs with huge PA speakers.

    There was a product featured on MDN a few weeks back that used up-sampling to try to restore some of the data lost in compressed MP3’s. A frankly pointless task when you take a CD recorded at 44,100 KB, and compress the data to 128 KB, so basicaly throwing away 43,972 KB of information in the process!

  39. I know you people love to try to sound all artsy and sophisticated while singing the praises of antiquated technology, so how about regaling us with your fond reminiscences of horse-drawn carts and whale-oil lamps while you’re at it?

    Sure, but we’ll need some background music. Like a master violinist playing something classic on a Stradivarius. Live.

    When YOU can beat the sound quality and range of that, let me know.

  40. I agree that this was a ‘different’, ‘warm&fuzzy;’ thread.

    Nice to see some old guys trying to teach the new techno guys.

    “garbage in – garbage out” – how about someone coming up with an ‘Audiophile’ iPod?

    Any takers by all you brilliant engineers? I know at least 100 people in NY who could and would buy
    such a device.

    MW= “certain” as in I am certain that who ever makes an audiphile iPod will make money.

    Loving this thread

  41. >how about someone coming up with an ‘Audiophile’ iPod? …at least 100 people in NY who could and would buy such a device.

    Just send your money to Vinnie (& your 4th gen iPod)

    http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html

    (the above is a good read wrt technical analysis even if you aren’t interested in the product)

    And as Apple is prone to do, it lets the little guys blaze the trails and then improves on it, so i wouldn’t be surprised to see an upmarker iPod — be nice to get one with i2s out to connect to a hi-end DAC (althou the Wolfson in the iPod is no slouch) as the iPod would be hard put to have a tube output buffer.

    dave

  42. If you want the absolute listening experience, listen to it live.
    No mikes, no cabling or wires, no amps, no speakers…
    That should be the ultimate reference – your own ears and brain.

    All recordings, to whatever media, are massaged both physically and electronically.
    They are all facsimiles of the original event subject to microphone type and placement, wires, cables, connectors, filtering and equalization, amplification, noise, whether the recording engineer had a hangover, etc., etc.

    So let’s be honest. Music is a personal experience whether it is background, ‘serious’ listening, live, or recorded.
    If you can enjoy a performance from whatever genre, from whatever source, from whatever playback system, from whatever emotional state you happens to be in… be happy, you have made it! If you can’t and believe you need something
    better then by all means do what you think is necessary.

    The debates are often subjective, there is a lot of hype out there and even more BS.

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