“If a patent filing is any indicator, Apple Computer CEO Steve Jobs may have nothing to fear from Microsoft’s upcoming wireless Zune player and its media service,” Red Herring reports. “Apple Computer has filed a patent that could allow an iPod to record tunes from thin air, transmit samples of the songs wirelessly to a server that identifies associated media, and enable users to purchase and download them.”
MacDailyNews Note: Newsweek (Oct. 15): “Microsoft has announced its new iPod competitor, Zune. It says that this device is all about building communities. Are you worried?” Apple CEO Steve Jobs: “In a word, no. I’ve seen the demonstrations on the Internet about how you can find another person using a Zune and give them a song they can play three times. It takes forever. By the time you’ve gone through all that, the girl’s got up and left!”
Red Herring continues, “Apple’s filing specifies that a ‘portable media device’ could record a sample, transmit that sample to a server network to identify that sample, and provide the user of the device with numerous media types such as music and video, available for purchase… ‘Whenever you a see a patent like this with Apple it means that they’re working on something,’ said Enderle Group analyst Rob Enderle.”
MacDailyNews Take: Enderle is a genius.
Red Herring continues, “[Apple’s filing] also comes after an analyst came out and said that two models of iPhones are coming. ‘Based upon our early checks, we expect Apple to unveil two models of its widely anticipated cell phones,’ Prudential Equity Group analyst Jesse Tortora said in a research note on Monday. Mr. Tortora said the two phones will most likely be launched at the MacWorld conference in January. One of the phones, he said, will be a smart phone featuring an integrated keyboard, video, and music capabilities. The other will be a slimmer phone with music. One of them will feature Wi-Fi, he noted.”
Red Herring reports, “The patent filing, which refers to a wireless carrier, may relate to Apple’s iPhone as well. The patent filing contains a document reference: ‘AT&T Wireless: mMode phones and how to access your music and ring tones. ‘The AT&T reference could well mean they are going down the road with AT&T,’ Mr. Enderle said.”
MacDailyNews Take: Enderle’s genius continues its exponential growth. Rumor has it that Enderle also believes that since Apple prints “One Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA” on all company business cards, that could well be the actual location of Apple’s headquarters. It’s no wonder that media outlets continue to seek out Enderle for his broad and incisive insider knowledge.
Red Herring continues, “Analysts have long suspected that Apple would do business in a so-called mobile virtual network operator arrangement. With an MVNO setup, the computer maker would be able to better control its brand on phones and sell through Apple’s brick-and-mortar and online stores. Apple may also have a deal with XM Satellite in the works. The filing makes reference to documents covering MacXM, a program that allows Mac OS X to control an XM Satellite Radio device. ‘I think I’ve seen something on this filing,’ said an XM representative who declined to comment further.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: If Apple does offer satellite radio, we’d hope they pick the more rapidly growing (and Howard Stern featuring) Sirius and not the stodgier XM (although, believe it or not, we wouldn’t mind having XM’s PGA Tour available for live tournament coverage – yes, we know, for most that’s a big yawner). Obviously, offering both (or maybe a choice between) Sirius and XM would be best, if at all possible. With the iPhone rumors ramping up yet again, do you think such a thing is finally coming?
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The iPod will be crushed by the Zune only when it’s sticking in the back pockect of Steve Ballmer fat sweaty @ss.
Sirius Sirius Sirius Sirius Sirius Sirius!!!!!!!!
Apple and Sirius. On the iPod. That would be cool.
MDN, in all its anti-intellectual Bushist glory, likes Howard Stern!
the article is a boring as MDN’s take – I didn’t think that was possible
Slashdot has a thread: “What if Apple releases a cell phone and no one cares?”
Me, I say: “What if Apple has no plans to release a cell phone at all?”
Wow, Morgan thinks that MDN must be pro-Bush because it likes Howard Stern? I’m sure the Christian conservatives all like Howie–not! All I can say is just “wow.”
Maybe we need a competition for the dumbest post ever…
Jake, if you are a newbie here, you shouldn’t comment until you know what you’re talking about. Because otherwise you leave yourself open to winning the dumbest post ever competition.
So an explanation, MDN takes are generally perceived to more often be pro-Bush. Morgan was implying how incredible (“!”) it is that MDN might actually like Howard Stern given that perception. Got it?
Show me any MDN Take that is “pro-Bush.”
AT&T Wireless no longer exists. mmode was 2 years ago.
I saw Enderle’s words featured in this month’s PCWorld. I can’t believe he gets his stuff published. Or, maybe I can.
Too bad he didn’t realize AT&T Wireless is no longer. Of course, it is Cingular (or part of, etc) now.
As for Sirius and XM…why not a choice between! That is great! Didn’t see that coming, and it’d be smart, eh?
iPhone is going to be something.
Also, thanks to MDN for the great stuff, as always.
Enderle is still far from a genius as well as MDN (Golf? on the radio??!!! )
Everything Apple patetnts does not make it to market simply because of a patent filing.
MDN please find a clearer fashion to differentiate your multiple paragraphs of ramblings from the actual
meat and potato(e)s of the real story.
Heres an example where you headline the first paragraph with the “MDN take”. ie http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/11302/
And the next paragraph is a continuation of you or are we back to the actual story. Indent or use a different font, anything.
I’ll expect an MDN take on what an idiot I am.
Wasn’t Dan Quale fun.
Wonder what he moved (<<<
MDN word) on to?
The iPod is such a huge phenomenon that they could get both Sirius and XM to sign up and allow the choice of either or both.
P.S.
Apple wants to be the content deliverer, not creator/provider, regardless of where the content comes from (the recording industry, the movie industry, Google/You Tube, and now maybe this). iTV will quickly evolve into on-demand content – anything and everything that you can possibly stream to a TV. All available instantly.
Howard Stern is one reason I would never subscribe to Sirius.
Why can’t Apple just offer subscriptions of Sirius through iTunes radio streaming?
“If Apple does offer satellite radio, we’d hope they pick the more rapidly growing (and Howard Stern featuring) Sirius and not the stodgier XM “
macdailynews, stop being such an ardent stern fanboy. you’re such a hypocrite its unreal. the same skewed bullshit you call out people for you’re guilty of yourself.
stodgier? no sir, that’s what you call a 50 something egotistical former radio personality who cant let go of his former fame..and is all but forgotten.
XM XM XM!
Opie and Anthony > Howard Stern
Three quick points:
1) If Apple chooses a slower growing service (XM, which is debatable depending on which figures you use, besides, faster growing doesn’t always equal profitability and sustainability), it has the opportunity to help grow their partner’s (XM’s) subscription base.
2) By choosing one service to offer, they simplify the interface to the service, and lowers associated hardware costs by only having one receiver. The same argument can be said about why not let the users have a choice between subscription and a la carte downloads. Apple decides what works, and from their previous track record in this space, they seem to be right.
3) By choosing one service, they can get a better rate for licensing terms, specifically if it is the slower growing service (see #1)
Ok, not so quick, but still…
O&A O&A O&A
XM baby! WOOT!
and lo. I saw the great Enderle and he was all aflame yet was not consumed. He offered me a vessel containing exotic knowledge and analytical prognostications. there, upon drinking, I became of burning sack of shit. ….and as I said, lo! burning on MDNs front porch on Halloween night.
Howard Stern is boring.
It seems as if the younger generations will pay for anything cool. –Pay for radio. Hahahahahaha.
It would be almost impossible to have both Sirius and XM radios in one device at this time. Each has a different decoding chipset. Moreover, you need a discrete antenna that can be pointed to different areas of the sky depending on which satellite you’re using.
For music, both XM and Sirius encode music at approximately 64 kbps. I don’t even like the sound of ITMS at 128 kbps.
XM has hockey and MLB. Nothing else really matters, so an iPhone with Sirius would be a waste for me.
XM + MLB + AAPL
A winning combination.
The “Enderle’s genius continues its exponential growth. …” take was truly inspired. As much as I bitch about the juvenile takes, this one truly is one for the ages. Well done.