Microsoft’s Mac Business Unit has released Messenger for Mac 6.0.
In a first for Microsoft, Messenger for Mac 6.0 is a Universal application built to run on both PowerPC-based and Intel-based Macs
More info and download link here.
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Still no video support?
I’m so glad this was a priority for the MBU.
If there is still no vid support than I call Bulls@#t. There is no Fu@#$ng excuse for a company the size of Microsoft not being able to have the video chat in it’s Mac offering. This is just a way for MS to get the kids to say”mac’s suck, msn doesn’t work on it” Anticompetitive assho@#s.
F@#k MS.
All this is free with AOL, why would anyone want to spend money on Microsoft.
Everyone form an orderly line. No cutting in front of each other to download the latest work of genius from Redmond.
Cupertino, start your shredders.
Messenger for Mac 6.0 makes it easy to take advantage of the full power of instant messaging, and it is a Universal application built to run on both PowerPC-based and Intel-based Macs. This update allows Messenger for Mac users to:
Chat with Yahoo! Messenger contacts
Add a status message that your personal contacts can see
Share what you are listening to in iTunes with your personal contacts
Create, send, and receive custom emoticons with personal contacts
Send and receive custom animated emoticons with personal contacts
Search for conversation histories using Spotlight
Check the spelling in your instant messages
Wow, that is some useful upgrade…
I’ll be sticking with Aduim and AMSN.
CandTsmac,
Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Ummm…. woo…..hoo.
Yeah.
Now I guess the two of them can get to work finishing up the next update to Office for the Mac.
The messenger for mac team, in a recent interview, said that video support would be coming to MSN for Mac in version 7, mostly because of the difficulty of getting the protocols for webcamming on both platforms to be compatible.
Finally, they’ve got some of the basics in there… but true to form, it’s underwhelming… using MSN Messenger is a necessary evil to keep in touch with friends who still haven’t made the switch to Mac or Mac users that are too lazy to use iChat. (fist to sky) DAMN, YOU MICROSOFT!
Can anyone tell me how to get my wife hooked up with video chat and MS Messenger? She has friends that all use Messenger because they are Peruvian and it seems the whole of central and south American are uterly dependent upon the Microsoft monopoly. They even use Powerpoint to send freaking images!!! It’s so frustrating. As tho they can’t just send jpegs they have to put them in PPT!!! It’s maddening.
Adium and AMSN? Is that a combo that will work and with what cameras?
“The messenger for mac team, in a recent interview, said that video support would be coming to MSN for Mac in version 7, mostly because of the difficulty of getting the protocols for webcamming on both platforms to be compatible.”
I mean come on if Yahoo, Skype and Apple can do it without delaying it for years… why can’t Microsoft?
In plain English that means….mainly because the protocols in Windows are fucked and aren’t interoperable with anything else…
Hey Yo Momma,
You can try AMSN. There are a lot of people having trouble getting it to work well though. The current version requires changes to your settings on the firewall/router.
Too bad there’s no pluggin for iChat to work with Yahoo! or MSN.
Doesn’t the Yahoo client bow work with MSN?
The Fire client works with all of ’em.
Still no tabs…. suckers. Die Bill Gates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Yo Momma,
I use an application called mercury messenger (as in messenger of the gods in greek mythology) and it completely supports video over MSN. You can find it here http://www.mercury.to/index.php . Good luck.
Installed. Won’t even let me sign in. Oh well, wasn’t planning on using it anyway. I just feel sorry for all those PC’ers that can’t get their brain around the fact that they don’t *need* to use MS’s product.
MW: no *better*, actually worse
What is a good program to do video/audio chat with some one on a PC when I have a Mac?? I’ve tried using ichat on my mac but the person on the pc end has to use AOL and the video is super small.
Any suggestions would be great.
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Won’t let me sign in as well. What a piece of crap.
Microsoft releases Smoke Signals 6. Connect with friends almost two blocks away! Let your friends know what’s going on with you at home.* ** ***
* Not to be used in any sort of breeze.
** “Letting friends know” does not mean actual understanding, recognition, connection, or semblance thereof
*** Fire provided by Sony
It says a lot when the only software MS can get out the door is MAC OS software.
It also says a lot when that software is a piddly IM client with no video support.
All direct to us, fresh from the labs of the world’s biggest richest software company. LOL.
Mike… “What is a good program to do video/audio chat with some one on a PC when I have a Mac?? I’ve tried using ichat on my mac but the person on the pc end has to use AOL and the video is super small.”
my friends use AOL Triton and it seems to work fine. we’ve had no issues, but I can’t tell you a thing about how to set it up.
I can however.. find you the windows version download page…
http://www.aim.com/get_aim/win/latest_win.adp
bye bye Adium.
To be great just some display pictures on contact list…
if you need to video chat to windows use skype.
if you need to use just chat i would reccommend Adium.
“now both of them can get back to work on Office”
Bravo, I almost spit beer out my nose when I read this. How true. Hey Microslop, why do you even bother?
I’ve always thought that Apple should do a proper iChat client for the PC. It would help sell Apple cameras, make it easy for us Mac folk to chat with our PC using relatives and it would be another way for Apple to demonstrate how good their software is to PC weenies. Perhaps it’s too big of a challenge to make something reliable on the PC, Apple probably has their PC department overworked keeping iTunes working on the PC.
FSCK MICROSOFT
Don’t run their buggy, snitching, exploitable code on your precious Mac.
You’ll be glad you did because you’ll live longer from reduced stress.
Well my office uses Microsoft Messenger for instant messaging, so I am pretty pleased they’ve updated this and made it Universal Binary. Don’t care about video, use Skype for that with friends.
Hopefully this is Microsoft’s first steps towards Universal version of Office 2004.
I really hope they make a Universal Binary of Office 2004, Mac Excel 2007 will be completely useless for any real work once VBA is removed. 🙁
In case anyone is wondering, the team that does the mac version MSN Messenger is not part of the MacBU. To me, this explains a lot between the extreme crappiness of MSN for mac compared with the feature parity achieved with Office for mac.
adium still wins.
http://www.adiumx.com/
Some observations – do what you will with them:
Fact: MSN Messenger for Mac is the MacBU – same as Office for Mac, Virtual PC (what was) and remote desktop. The now defunked Media Player was NOT part of the MacBU.
Fact: MSN Messenger for Mac v. 5 was a Carbon/Cocoa app to start with. The fact that it took them over a year to check the ‘compile for Intel and PowerPC’ and do some debuggin is just down right rediculious. It may have not been an XCode native port at that point but it isn’t exactly a big application to move into XCode. Other larger apps move in much less time (see Divx, Google Earth, Opera, etc) so telling that Microsoft can move Messenger over in a few weeks is just bogus.
Fact: MSN Messenger for Mac is crippled because Microsoft chooses to ignore resources for it. I have no doubt in my mind that there probably isn’t more than 1 or 2 full time developer assigned to the project as the rate of new features and version translates to about 1/2 of an intern it seems.
Fact: The MacBU has some sharp people working there but they are pretty much under the bastard child of all divisions. I mean, putting them in the same division as the XBox team? That makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. The sad fact is Microsoft realizes that making the Mac Office better than the Windows version only provides either: 1) the Windows Office people are not the sharpest people in the world (Let’s hope this isn’t true now that the people working on Office are shifting over to the Windows team) or 2) Windows really is a crumbling tower, kept together time after time with more and more band aids. I’m guessing its mostly #2 but you don’t exactly go around making better products/innovations for your competition.
Well, that’s enough rambling for now…
Microsoft fails to see that if they make truly awesome software, they could dominate all platforms without “strategy.” Instead, they bolster their platform, cripple their Apple offerings, and ignore Linux. Why? They’re scared. They know who’s better and have since the beginning.
Their dominance is the result of a business coup, not a technological one. If they keep their strategy up, they will pay a heavy price. It won’t come immediately, but they’ll be surprised when things suddenly fall apart.
Choice is good. If Microsoft say’s they are working on video, that’s cool too!
For other choice’s see
http://www.whiterabbits.com/MacNetJournal/stories/2002/03/14/osXChatClientsSoManyProgra.html
and
http://allforces.com/2005/05/06/ichat-to-msn-through-jabber/
Isn’t the answer just for Apple to make iChat for Windows?
*yawn* like we use crappy windbloze apps. ichat AV is the best and M$ can go suck it. PeeCee’s suck anyway, especially w/ crappy software. wake me up when some cool new apps come out for my badass mac.
adium is so overrated…
but MSN sucks
I have this sneaky suspicion that with the addition of software update for windows, Apple may try and consume windows from the inside out. One day they’ll all wake up with OS X waiting to be installed or something.
In the Mac Utopia, you don’t eat Apple, Apple eats you! Or something to that effect.
Great. One of the most malware-like programs MS makes… the first to be Universal. Man, MS has got some bizarre priorities.
I use Mercury. It is an MSN client which has more features than MSN Messenger for Mac. It has video support and you can video chat with PC users. Not sure why Microsoft can’t do this if it is already being done by a third party developer apart from the obvious of course!!
It would also be great if Yahoo updated their messenger to include the features available to PC users.