“In a question-and-answer session during Dell’s annual shareholder meeting, Chairman [Michael] Dell was asked how he viewed competition from Apple,” Edward F. Moltzen reports for CRN.
Dell answered, in part:
Apple certainly has done a very nice job with their products. I think you’re going to see a number of new, competitive dynamics in that market …music services. We’ve been working with MTV, which has a new service called Urge. That’s an exciting space that Apple has done well in, but I would be surprised if they are able to maintain the share they have today over the next ten or 20 years. In terms of competition with Apple (in PCs), our share numbers speak for themselves. Apple is growing, but is still not in the top five in share for computers.
MacDailyNews Take: What, no mention of shutting down Apple from the “business genius” Michael Dell? The writing on the wall is sometimes hard to take, especially when it’s so clearly written. Working with MTV on Urge? Entirely laughable. Please see related article: Dell dumps line of hard drive-based MP3 players, nobody notices for over a month – February 06, 2006.
Dell said, “Apple is growing, but is still not in the top five in share for computers.” “Still” would be the operative word. Worldwide, box assembler Dell is correct: Apple is outside the top 5 PC vendors (for now). In the U.S., however, which represents more than half of Dell’s business, according to IDC, Apple is #4 and showed 16% year-over-year growth overall with 60% growth in portables; the most rapidly growing segment of personal computers. Dell showed on 6.4% growth. Apple’s market value – often seen as a measure of a company’s future – is now more than $6.1 billion over Dell’s. Most people can see that Dell is in decline. Can Michael Dell see it, yet?
Here’s another article that may be of interest: Dude, you got a Dell? What are you, stupid? Only Apple Macs run both Mac OS X and Windows! – April 05, 2006
Pure Dell. How appropriate: Dell is pure —-. If Dell ceased to exist today – say Michael Dell sold the company and gave the money back to the shareholders – nobody outside the company would care. Another Windows box assembler would simply slide into place and the mediocrity would continue unabated.
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IDC: Apple Mac attained 4.8% U.S. market share in Q2 06 – July 19, 2006
Gartner: Apple Mac grabbed 4.6% U.S. market share in Q2 06 – July 19, 2006
Temperature Test: Apple MacBook vs. Dell Latitude D620 – July 18, 2006
NY Times: Dell’s exploding laptop and other image problems – July 10, 2006
Survey shows big jump in consumer interest in buying Apple Mac; Dell takes steep slide – July 06, 2006
The Wired 40: Apple #2, Microsoft drops to #36, Dell falls off list – June 28, 2006
Dell laptop explodes into flames at Japanese conference – June 21, 2006
Time Magazine on Apple’s 13-inch MacBook: ‘Dell and HP should be very worried’ – June 07, 2006
Apple passes Dell in market value – May 02, 2006
InformationWeek: Apple Mac run Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux; Dell and HP should be concerned – May 01, 2006
Dude, you got a Dell? What are you, stupid? Only Apple Macs run both Mac OS X and Windows! – April 05, 2006
Apple beats Dell: lands deal to supply 12,675 iBooks to Henrico County Middle Schools [UPDATED] – February 09, 2006
Dell dumps line of hard drive-based MP3 players, nobody notices for over a month – February 06, 2006
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Steve Jobs emails Apple team: Michael Dell not the best prognosticator, Apple worth more than Dell – January 16, 2006
Why buy a Dell when Apple’s Intel-based computers will run both Mac OS X and Windows? – June 08, 2005 (Perhaps you like to roast marshmallows while applying security patches to Windows?)
Funny how things change….
“. . . but I would be surprised if they are able to maintain the share they have today over the next ten or 20 years.”
And Jobs will be 71 in 20 years. I’m going out on a limb here and guess that the technology world will be quite different in 10 to 20 years.
in 10 or twenty years……why dont you just say 50 or 100 years to make sure youll be dead and wont have to answer to anyone. what a dipshit.
does anone here actually believe dell will be around in 10 or twenty years? i sure dont.
Dell, is just a box assembler. They haven’t any real value.
“over the next ten or 20 years.”
Is Dell hittin’ the crack pipe?
MDN Magic Word: “time” – scary how they can do that.
carlo…
Forget Dell, I’m not convinced Microsoft will be around in 20 years.
As soon as Steve retires (next 5 plus years) Apple is gone…sold, kaput, adios.
I think if Steve builds the compnay up, then puts a good person in charge when he retires (eg not a moron [eg. any of Apple’s past CEOs]), Apple will do well.
Maybe he’ll go for a Gates approach and just be Chairmen and Jonathan Ive can be CEO or something….
So Dell thinks that Apple owns the digital music universe for at least the next 10 years.
yo! easy with the Dell and MS slagging. a lot of people didn’t think Apple would be around today 10 years ago and look what happened.
as much as i tell friends not to buy Dell some do anyway for a variety of reasons (i don’t support Dell because they’re just a low-cost packager i’d rather give my $ to HP, Toshiba or someone else).
Apple, keep on making great hardware and software, developing great partnerships, nuturing great employees to eventually succeed, making great strategic decisions. it’s not necessary to be in the top 5 PC vendors as long as Apple can stay profitable and continue to do great work.
MDN et al, grow up. Did you really expect Michael Dell to publicly acknowledge his previous error of under estimating Apple’s performance and beg forgiveness? His recent assessments of Apple’s successes were not laudatory, but it wasn’t insulting and it was candid. Regardless of the degree and extent of Dell’s respect for Apple today, he is compelled to speak positively of his company’s prospects, especially at a stockholders meeting.
If Apple was more concerned with Michael Dell’s opinions than designing new products and improving existing products then we wouldn’t be enjoying the successes of Apple’s innovations, sales statistics, and quarterly earnings reports today.
“but I would be surprised if they are able to maintain the share they have today over the next ten or 20 years.” How about that, a salesmen’s foresight!!!
“I think you’re going to see a number of new, competitive dynamics in that market …music services. We’ve been working with MTV, which has a new service called Urge.”
Too bad for him that the new competitive dynamics will also be coming from Apple.
“over the next ten or 20 years.”
Is Dell hittin’ the crack pipe?
Not so fast. There are reasons Apple’s iPod is dominant today & not, say, Sony’s Walkman. As M. Dell so profoundly observed (heh), things change over time.
Will Apple be the dominant music player 20 years from now? Who knows. A lot of vendors want a piece of Apple’s market, and anything goes on what future technology might be. People also tend to get bored with one thing & move onto the next.
But for the short term, say 3-5 years, the iPod will be sitting very well.
Apple is a the top of an avelanche at the moment leading to domination of the home PC-entertainment market. If the competition doesn’t pull their shit together, it will happen.
Right now, Apple has products that displace the home/ car CD player, disrupt the notion that an AV receiver is necessary in the home entertainment system (front row), dominating the portable music market, nudging into mobile phone technology and unify a lot of personal data simply and seamlessly.
Take the mac mini- on my TV I can watch DVDs, h264 movies, tv shows, listen to diverse music without an unsightly stack of CD’s, edit photos & movies, publish a website, email, play keyboard, pay me bills, synchronize with .mac, my laptop, ipod, mobile phone and PDA. And all in one easy to use, stable, non-virus prone appliance. AND for significantly less than $1,000.
That’s pretty appealing. The word is getting out. The competition is six months off (vista) and likely will be 2 years behind by the time it ships. Drums are beating. Apple is coming. I am cuming. . . uuuughh, OMIGOOOODDDDD!!!
I think Mr. Dell assumes that history’s repeating. Just like in the 80’s when Apple controlled the computer market until IBM rolled it up.
Unfortunately, this won’t be the case. First, history is in most cases unlikely to repeat; second, it is highly unlikely that the current Apple management will do the same mistakes Apple’s management did in the 80’s; and third, the decision for or against an iPod is an emotional. It’s not a technical question and that’s where Dell & Co are having a hard time now (and Zune will).
Now one will know how the world looks like in 2026 – like in 1986, no one could possibly imagine that by 2006 we’re going through the world with tiny devices that store thousands of thousands of songs. And keep our photos stored on hard disks of unimaginable capacity (as seen through 1986’s eyes).
So, to sum it up: predicting the future isn’t a serious business, in most cases; Apple is currently well-positioned and strong in business and Dell is not making headlines with really cool products… . So: Mr Dell, please innovate and don’t comment on the development of other computer companies.
Apple is coming. I am cuming. . .
Sick bastard.
So here we have a real geek, so happy he can sit his ass in front of the tube & do all his nerd stuff that he’s literally orgasmic over it.
This notion is from the same place as Microsoft’s idea of $10,000 stock trades via cell phone. No wonder the digital home revolution hasn’t happened yet.
Let me know when there’s a concept that appeals to the other 99.5% of the consumer market.
If Dell® and Longaberger® got a cross-promo together you could go to your …wait for it…
“Dell in a hand-basket”
If you must throw tomatoes, please use the rotten ones in the left pile. thanks.
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“So here we have a real geek, so happy he can sit his ass in front of the tube & do all his nerd stuff that he’s literally orgasmic over it.”
Since when is watching a movie, listening to music, having a family album & movies of Macbones Jr’s first steps or paying the bills nerd stuff?
I’m stuck in the office working today. Usually I’d be out on the boat. I think the point is, I’m not really a nerd. A nerd does the things I mentioned with a PC and spends hours of effort to get it to work, and is more proud of the fact that it can be done than the results you get from doing it. What I’m trying to say is I do the things I listed by plugging the box into the TV and doing them. Just like I used to plug in the DVD player, only it was easier to learn the remote on the mini. I don’t care how it works, or about the chip design. I’m a dope, I hit the “on” button and the thing works w/o a hitch. I don’t have to read a friggin manual. My life is simplified, not complicated by this little box.
“This notion is from the same place as Microsoft’s idea of $10,000 stock trades via cell phone.” .”
If buying more Apple stock was easier via cell phone than calling the broker and saying, “Hi Dave, this is Jorge, buy another hundred Apple shares for me,” then I would do that too. But it’s not. It’s a pain in the arse, unintuitive so I don’t use the technology. Conversely, it is much easier to download my pictures, pick the ones I want and click, “BUY” to get a hardcover album in the mail in 4 days than sending film to develop, shopping for and buying a crappy ringbinder album, and spending an hour putting pictures into it.
“No wonder the digital home revolution hasn’t happened yet”
The digital home revolution IS happening, and Apple is leading at the moment by a country mile.
Who cares if Apple is not in the top 5. Apple only want to make good quailty computers. Only asshole like Mike Dell would think that. Mike you sell nothing but junk computers that only a real people knows that are crap. To the people who don’t know computers and there are still lots of them. You, Mike (bottomfeeder) Dell will always sell to them.
How can you sleep at night, up in that big old ugly place you call home over looking the 360 bridge in Austin. All that money you made. And you out you’re own mouth said, that Apple should close shop and give money back to the shareholders. Man is that calling the kettle black, MIKE, First Dell is not a real computer company. If everybody look at you’re products, they are copys of other companys. TV’s look like Sharp’s TV with the label replace. The printers are nothing put epson or canon copy. Second you go out and buy Alienware for what the people (WORKERS) at Dell still don’t know why. I guess you was going to take over the game market. HA HA HA Man you sound like a desperate man to me on a sunking ship. Oh Yea, didn’t you said or somebody in your company about or hope that Apple will open their OS systerm to the public. What A BOTTOMFEEDER HA HA HA HA Roast any lap today.
In my opinion, Dell has helped make buying computer equipment more affordable.
For my money, I’d just about always choose a Dell monitor over an Apple – especially the larger cinema displays.
So I hope Dell stays in business… hopefully running OSX in the near future since I doubt MS will be able to sew all the seams in Windows.
I can understand that Apple displays are quite a bit more expensive than the others out there. Apple displays are much closer to industry specs in terms of color purity, viewing angle etc. I will admit that if you are a photo pro or even an amateur and don’t use even a basic colorometer to calibrate your display, you’ll be fighting with mismatches between your prints and what’s on the screen.
Lets not forget, there’s a product out there for just about everyone. I’ll admit that if I had to buy a $400 computer, it would be a $400 used mac.
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“If Dell ceased to exist today – say Michael Dell sold the company and gave the money back to the shareholders – nobody outside the company would care. Another Windows box assembler would simply slide into place and the mediocrity would continue unabated.”
Very well put.
People, it’s too easy to miss the point.
It’s not marketshare and it’s not who’s bigger or who is going to be around in 20 years.
It’s this.
Apple has driven the computer market in terms of innovation for the last oh, 22 years or so. From networking individual computers, to wireless networking, to laser printers, to firewire to DVD burning to — well you get the idea; Apple was first and Apple drove the rest of them kicking and screaming into the new, different, better.
The good news is, Apple is still doing it. The reason we have shitheads like MacRealist is because he knows where to go to find out what his Dell will look like in five years. It’s called today’s Mac.
I don’t give a shit how big DULL is, it’s not the dog, it’s not the tail, it’s just the shit that comes out when the dog squats.
Oh and MacRealist is the stinking maggots in the shit!
Yeah, I feel better now.