Windows PCs are only good for running games

Walk into a PC store and “ask what Macs are better for compared to PCs and see what your average salesperson concedes,” Les Posen blogs for CyberPsych. “Once they’ve said ‘graphics‘ or some similar narrow usage confined to the creative, but not corporate enterprises, surprise them by asking,

Why is it better than the PC for graphics?”

“Note what responses you get. Is it confined to better software choices on the Mac? A better user interface? Better graphics processor? Faster CPU? Really try to pin them down,” Posen writes.

“Then, when you’ve collected the answers, ask why a system that has these advantages isn’t suitable for corporate use. Then watch the squirming and justifications begin,” Posen writes. “Then, when all is said and done, and the salesperson has done their song and dance act of justification (you’ll know they’re clutching at straws when they cite ‘price‘ and ‘upgradibility,’ neither of which can be sustained as a differentiator in 2006), ask if the current Macs can also run Windows, including Vista.”

“Then prepare to watch cognitive dissonance in action,” Posen writes.

Posen writes., “You see, one of these days, not far away, Steve Jobs will know he has succeeded in his efforts to make the Mac a sensible choice for all kinds of IT use, when you walk into a computer store, and overhear the salesperson say: ‘You want a Windows PC? Are you sure? You know they’re only good for running games. The rest of the time you don’t want to trust them with your mission critical applications and data.’

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “vitaboy” for the heads up.]

Related MacDailyNews articles:
Dude, you got a Dell? What are you, stupid? Only Apple Macs run both Mac OS X and Windows! – April 05, 2006
Why buy a Dell when Apple’s Intel-based computers will run both Mac OS X and Windows? – June 08, 2005
Defending Windows over Mac a sign of mental illness – December 20, 2003 (Stockholm Syndrome and cognitive dissonance)


  1. Being a long time Linux user (and now a Mac convert), a couple of years ago, I thought about using one of my boxes as a Windows gaming machine, installing Windows after over 5 years.

    So, I went with Windows XP. It was a nightmare. A virus got in right after I connected it to the internet (no, I did not install an antivirus, not I used a firewall, as the Windows experts suggest. I believe an OS out of the box should not be as crappy as getting infected by doing nothing).

    The time it took to make it “stable” was so much, that my final conclussion was “I don’t have time for this crap”.

    So, Windows is not even good for games. I would suggest a video console (PS2, Xbox, Nintendo) instead of Windows. How about some Aspyr games on your Mac?

  2. “The history here is that whenever I mention the Mac as a viable business platform he sneers at it.

    It was no different on Monday when I ignored my better judgement and suggested he look at the new Macbook range.

    And what followed was the usual tirade which you might think was so passé now, but evidently might be a view held by many within the Windows sphere of influence:

    “Apple? They were good when you had to do graphics. But no one thinks about them now. Hardly anyone buys them. They would be out of business if it wasn’t for the iPod.””

    My word, does that sneering remark from his friend sound familiar!!!! I really am sick and tired of being sneered at by blobs who either don’t know what they’re talking about, or are stuck back in 1996 relative to the Macintosh. Oh, well … perhaps when the whole Mac line is back up to about 10% market share, the Microsloth minions will shut up.

    Yeah … I won’t be holding my breath.

  3. BrooklynNYC – “Unless you are a game programmer or light game player (someone who uses them to wind down after a long work day) my suggestion would be to get out and find a job.”

    That doesn’t make any sense.

  4. There are four markets for computers: the enterprise, education, standalone professionals, and consumers.

    Microsoft has the enterprise market sewn up. Apple will have the consumer market sewn up, and Microsoft doesn’t even know the standalone professional market exists. The two companies share the educational market–Microsoft prevails when the school is preparing students for careers in the enterprise.

    Apple can’t address the enterprise market very well–there’s a lot more to it than workstations and servers. Apple doesn’t have any products that compete with SharePoint, BizTalk, Commerce Server, or Microsoft SQL Server. It doesn’t have or doesn’t market a technology like ASP.NET, which the enterprise uses to build web-based applications.

    Microsoft is klutzy with the consumer market, and I think Apple stands a good chance of taking it over. It’s entirely possible that in a year or two Windows won’t be the best platform for games any more. However, Apple does not have the product line to compete with Microsoft in the enterprise, except for workstations and laptops.

    I don’t think it would be a good idea for Apple to move into the enterprise market. It would require a different corporate culture, a different product focus, and it would require disclosure of future plans–Microsoft has to make its plans known in advance for OEMs and the enterprise, and they have to suffer embarrassment if they don’t work out. If Apple plans something, and it doesn’t work out, we never hear about it. It’s a corporate secret.

    I think it’s wisest for Apple to focus on eating Microsoft’s lunch in the consumer market.

  5. Ken,

    Interesting perspective.

    I understand all but one of these markets — standalone professionals.

    Is that SOHO or small biz, or something else?

    Where would Apple fit in the standalone professional market?

    [Not trying to be a jackhole.]

  6. Computing paradigms change. Glacially, mind you, but they change. Anyone old enough to remember when the choice was between a Macintosh or a PC running MS-DOS? The same type of people who cling to their precious Windows were dismissing the mouse as a toy. Real computer users learned a command interface. Now those same people happily point-and-click away on their Windows PCs.

  7. Standalone professional: novelist, artist, musician, photographer, or in my case, the pastor of a small church. I need much of the same software as an enterprise–web development, word processing, database, spreadsheet–but consumer versions aren’t suited to what I need. I also don’t and can’t have a personal IT department. Apple addresses the needs of standalone professionals, Microsoft doesn’t know the market exists.

  8. Jim,

    Having worked part-time at Electronics Boutique (now EB Games) from age 17 through college. I will tell you that the majority of game players are 18+.

    Most games are bought by people who make the money to play them and most of those games, particularly for PC, are of a more mature nature. The location I worked in San Diego, Ca had many customers who were doctors, lawyers, engineers, financial advisers, and programmers (game and otherwise). Of course, we also had our share of local military. The kids with seemingly wealthy parents from La Jolla were the minority.

    In conclusion, about 2/3 of game players are over age 18 and from my experience employed.

    No Kool Aid here,

    A dedicated console is more powerful than most PC’s purchased and at a fraction of the cost of the gaming PCs you speak of. The powerful PC exception is the hard core PC gamers’ computer. Even then, consoles often have a hand up on PC’s for a short time after their release and work out of the box on a large television.

    On the article
    This doesn’t warrant an MDN story, these are a subjects more often found in the forums. Otherwise, we’d see an story like this every few hours. I have several of my own, as I’m sure most readers here do. I remember discussing the uninformed sales person back with the “Best Buy sales Mac” story a few months ago. We discuss the misguided friend almost daily.

  9. Re: Ironyman

    Macs come with a two-button-mouse as well – it’s called Mighty Mouse.

    Only our computer system is so well designed it works with one button, too.

    What’s your point – besides trolling?

  10. Yup, I have 1 PC and 3 Macs at home.
    PC at my household is for games only, nothing else.

    PCs are really only good for games only because they are not available on the Mac, at least not yet.

  11. BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots

    SharePoint allows a manager to create a collaborative site in minutes with sophisticated features without knowing anything about programming–and the users can customize their own interfaces. Microsoft SQL Server competes with Oracle and Sybase, not MySQL. It is also possible to set up a Microsoft network so that any worker can use any workstation and still find all his files and settings available as if it were his dedicated workstation. Microsoft has securitiy problems, viruses, and all that crap, but there are corporate solutiosn for that, as long as IT doesn’t suffer from the “stay two versions behind” superstition. Apple doesn’t have the product line to compete in that arena.

    My contention is that Microsoft and Apple don’t overlap too much. Microsoft could abandon the consumer market and still get rich. Apple can afford to ignore the enterprise and still get rich. I see Microsoft getting more and more out of touch with consumers, and I see Apple purposefully deciding not to market to the enterprise.

    If you are a home user, a standalone professional, or a small business, Mac is the very best choice. If you are running a corporation with 10,000 employees, Mac is technically better, but Apple doesn’t have the product line you need-Microsoft is the choice.

    I doubt anyone here is the CIO of a large corporation. That is why Microsoft is a poor choice for you. It’s just not designed for you. It’s designed for the enterprise. If your home computer runs Windows, you have the wrong computer, in my view. You realize that the first time you get an error message that tells you to notify the system administrator, and the only way you can talk to him is to look in a mirror. That’s enough to send you to the Apple Store, where in my opinion, you belong.

    For consumers, very small businesses, standalone professionals, and, in the very near future gamersk–in short everyone here–Mac is the very best choice. it is only a matter of time before everyone realizes this.

    I have a Windows PC, but when it dies, it won’t be replaced with Windows. I’m going all Mac as soon as Mono runs on Mac and I can undestand it (I use ASP.NET on my web site). Mac’s the best for me. There is a place for Windows, but not in my house. I don’t have an IT department. There is a place for Liinux, but not in my house, I wasn’t born on Mars and my native language isn’t PERL.

    At home, Windows is just annoying. It needs to reboot more often than Imelda Marcos. Mac is the best for me.

  12. For those that are ‘irony’ challenged.

    I will attempt to COMPLETE an idea thread lead by LordRobin…

    The same type of people who cling to their precious Windows, were the same people that dismissed the [Mac] mouse as a toy.

    Those people— and we all remember who they are — proclaimed that ‘Real’ computer users learned a command interface. No wussy W.I.M.P for them, GUIs were for fags.

    Now those exact same people happily point-and-click away on their Windows PCs.

    And I only added… ‘with their two-button mouse’. To make a finer point of the fact that for years we had to endure mockery from ‘them’ — only to be ‘allegedly’ one-upped.

    FYI, the two-button mouse was ‘invented’ by MS, only because Apple had a PATENT on the one-button mouse. Until MS claim they ‘invented’ contextual menus (see Smalltalk, then NEXTSTEP first), there was zero standard-use for the second button on Windows. It was chaos.

    And FWIW, the one-button serves to force developers to make all program functions available via menu choices. Hence the MM design. Yes, it can be set in the Prefs to be a ‘2-button’ mouse. But, I’m absolutely certain that a new Mac will default to one-button.

    Been a Mac User since Aug ’84 — and being called a troll at MDN. Now that’s some good irony. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”LOL” style=”border:0;” />

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