“You’ll forgive me if I seem a little confused these days. Despite the fact that I work in a lab full of Macs, I spend more of my time lately staring at Windows XP than at Mac OS X,” James Galbraith writes for Macworld. “It’s not that I’m mulling over a platform switch—rather, this XP overload is part of Macworld Lab’s efforts to see how Microsoft’s operating system performs on Apple hardware now that software exists that enables you to boot into XP on an Intel-based Mac. With the help from our sister publication, PC World, we’ve been running the WorldBench 5 real-word benchmark suite on all of our Intel systems to gauge cross-platform performance.”
Galbraith reports, “Even with Boot Camp, it still takes a couple of hours to set these systems up. But once running, they’ve been very stable… the Macs running Windows gave these PCs a run for their money, with the 2.16GHz MacBook Pro turning in the fastest scores on three of the five individual tests. The build-to-order MacBook configuration also tied the 2.16GHz HP Compaq in the sixth test…”
Full article, with WorldBench 5 results compared to three computers recently tested by PC World, here.
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Get out of the way! The mac train is about to blow through!
i cant wait to see native photoshop osx bench marks on the same processors as pcs, with our superior dual processor handling i hope to see some good results.
The intel OSX native photoshop should be amazingly fast compared to previous versions, because according to an Adobe dev’s blog, they’re having to get re-write all the decades-old legacy code in order to build CS3 in XCode. That’s why it’s taking so long for CS3 to get out the door.
It’s that old code that’s been slowing Photoshop down this whole time. Maybe you won’t have to go get a cup of coffee waiting for CS3 to load?
*YAWN*
What I hear is Adobe isn’t even working on a Mac OS X version of Photoshop CS3.
Why? Because the Windows version will be able to run under either OS.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
I heard you heard wrong. There’s already a commitmnent, dude. Wake up and smell the jpegs.
Duh! It’s the same hardware people… should there be any real exceptions??? NO it’s intel processors… they are going to perform the same in each system… it’s the other parts like system bus speed and RAM speed, Video RAM quantity, speed… etc, etc, etc. Why is this news???? What apple is saying is that they are now on a level playing field in regards to HARDWARE. This leaves ONLY the OS and APPLICATIONS as a differentiator.
So what if you can build a 300 dollar computer, It will ONLY run MS and LINUX so you are locked into their Future HARDWARE and future SOFTWARE, this move by APPLE gives the choice back to the end USER. Something even AMD couldn’t do because it was locked into the x86 architecture. A happy computing person produces more, studies have proven it. Choice makes people happy. I see this as a sucess for APPLE but not a move to challenge MS, DELL maybe but thats another debate.
So how is this going to work? Buy a universal binary of Creative Suite 3 and install it on both the OS X and XP partitions with one license?
Wow. Magic word Work as In I hope it will work this way.
I heard you heard wrong. There’s already a commitmnent, dude. Wake up and smell the jpegs.
You’ll see, I was right before.
Developers want to design code once, not twice.
Develop one app, just like a universal binary, it will run on either OS.
No need to run Windows at all.
So how is this going to work? Buy a universal binary of Creative Suite 3 and install it on both the OS X and XP partitions with one license?
No because CS3 will “call home” for registration/activation just like CS2 does.
One license, one install. Either OS, same install disks. Walk into any PC store and buy/run what you want.
And if some developers won’t get onboard the Uni/OS bus, then Apple is going to provide a compatability layer. It will lay between a 100% Windows app and Mac OS X to make it run, but it won’t be as fast.
It’s already being done.
Morty is right.
Except that it is not true.
Are you not well, Troll? Are you just a kiddie, or simply unable to earn a real living?
I’d rather load Linux onto my MacBookPro and use GIMP over having to purchase Windows just to run Photoshop.
How much of a dollar savings would that be? Let’s see….
Free Linux + Free GIMP = FREE
$$$ for Photoshop + $$$ for Windows = $$$$.$$
There is NO incentive for Adobe to not release the CS3 version of Photoshop. Unless Microsoft buys Adobe.
Not to mention the all Mac customers NOT on the intel Mac that would upgrade – as usual.
The greatest “holy grail” of Mac OS X is to be able to run all of Windows apps without Windows.
That’s the reason why fools stick to a inferior OS and why developers keep coding for it. It’s a vicious cycle that reinforces each other.
Apple is going to break that.
This “Boot Camp” buisness is only a temporary thing to get switchers. Apple wouldn’t have released it because it does some considerable harm in the long run, but that long run isn’t going to appear.
PC users will be able to migrate their Windows apps to Mac OS X.
It’s absolutely brilliant! Go Apple!
So … according to Morty the linked statement from Adobe is a lie? They’re not really developing CS3 to run on PowerPC and Intel Mac OS X?
http://www.adobe.com/products/pdfs/intelmacsupport.pdf
Morty, I sure hope you’re right about BootCamp being a temporary “fix” and that eventually Macs will be capable of running Windoze apps native within the OS X interface. It would spell DOOM for M$.
But I’m not holding my breath.
Morty/MacDude, whether what you say is true or not I have absolutely no idea, BUT am I reading correctly? Did you actually say “Go Apple?” Have you taken your meds today?
http://darwine.opendarwin.org/index.php
screw virutalization and dual booting
nice morty.. but that IS virtualization..
for games.. which is what people use windows for..dual boot is ideal.
Morty,
Do you work? Do you have a job? I’ve never seen so many posts on some many threads in all my life!
Sorry, “SO many threads”
..but that IS virtualization..
your right and I’m right.
Dual booting we know.
What Parallels software does is create a virtual machine using full virtualization.
What Darwine does is create paravirtualization using API’s directly.
So I modify my previous statement to reflect that.
“Screw full virtualization and dual booting”
Amen, praise Jobs.
This is all well and good but arn’t macs harder to upgrade. I mean pc’s are usualy made up of bits and pieces from all over the place. Can you change the graphics card easily in a mac?
Yes, you can change the graphics card if you buy a powermac. The current Powermacs are PPC based, the Intel based PowerMacs are expected around WWDC.
http://www.apple.com/powermac
I like you guys, I reallly do.
There’s not enough tea in China to underscore the unliklihood of Adobe and other developers continuing to code for OS X.
There are no jpeg’s to smell, dork.
These park personell are far too in your face to not be kept back with big sticks.
You Mac-loving fools will see, I’ve always been pretty dead on on this stuff.
Why is there no light in this room?
Why do the children spit at me?
And you know it too.
Morty do you prefer an Apple HiFi or a 5.1 stereo system for $200 more?
I read that Apple made the newer iMacs easier to replace parts in if you have an issue. This makes it easier for Apple to send a new part out to be swapped by the owner as opposed to taking it to the shop or sending in the whole unit. In theory video cards could be switched along with other parts. Just a hypothesis, haven’t heard of anyone doing it yet… “Yet” being the key word.
there seems to be some confusion on what virtualization is. Virtualization is when you have an OS and then an application that will emulate, “virtualize,” a different OS on top of the core OS (think of virtual PC or Classic). That is that the core os must run a second application in order to run a certain app. It is not virtualization if the core OS can run that certain app by itself (e.g.: with out virtual PC or Classic)
Lets say that the Mac OS Leopard is able to run Windows apps, with out windows… the apps then would be false-native, as in, the apps are not native themselves, but function in the EXACT way as if they were native… essentially being native.
Morty = MacDude
The double-spacing between every sentence gives it away, jackass.
morty, universal binary is part of the answer, Adobe still makes a significant amount of money off of OSX users. It is still in Adobe’s best interest to code for that group. Apple liscensed colorsync, that is why the Mac ruled in the print industry. There are ways to make it close on a PC, but in the end it’s easier and more cost effective to use a Mac for publishing.
Morty, sorry about the lower case of your name, no disrespect meant to you, I didn’t do a spellcheck.
Here’s that Adobe blog I was talking about where the developer is talking about developing CS3 in XCode and how it means they are having to re-write tons of legacy code.
<a >http://blogs.adobe.com/scottbyer/2006/03/macintosh_and_t.html</a>
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, MacDude.
Morty do you prefer an Apple HiFi or a 5.1 stereo system for $200 more?
Depends upon the 5.1 system of course.
Lots of trolls here huh?
It doesn’t really matter, dankman, there’s no chance of OSX surviving beyond a few more years.
AS someone said, wake up and smell the JPEG’s, dude.
Virtualization is just a stopgap employed by Jobs to forstall the inevitable.
There wil be no more software development for the Mac because its not worth it.
A envirnoment that runs Windows will always be considered superior by the masses, because its familiar to them.
Like cream corn to my colon, its comfortable and easy.
Stop spitting.
^ and ^; Thanks clones.
Any 5.1 system will defeat Apple’s lame offering of a Lo-Fi Boombox.
No 5.1 out, so no SACD capability.
Why pay for that when for very little more you can have more features and far superior sound?
This is too easy, you guys need to try harder.
Apple is dead soon, and I’ll be selling my Macs on eBay since that’s where fools like you shop.
Ah, SACD – the format that’s about to die.
Yet another Sony dead-end.
This is all well and good but aren’t Macs harder to upgrade. I mean pc’s are usualy made up of bits and pieces from all over the place. Can you change the graphics card easily in a mac?
Officially the only Mac that can be self upgraded is the PowerMac. And then only RAM, video cards, PCI cards and hard drives. The rest are just RAM only mostly.
Now people have upgraded their new MacTels machines with more recent versions of the Core Duo processors, also hard drives. But of course these mods are not sanctioned by mother Apple.
Unfortunalty there is no cheap Mac with a upgrade capacity. I have argued for a upgradable iMac for years, especially the video card for 3D games.
I think Apple now allows the option for a advanced video card with purchase of a new iMactel now though.
Mac’s are far more reliable because Apple is in charge of quality control.
What is up with these trolls tonight?
Who the fsck is macdude?
Why is everyone copying my nick?
Weird how you never see “Morty” and “MacDude” in the same thread. Could Clark Kent be Superman…? He’s got those glasses on, I can’t tell.
I love the smell of Troll in the morning.
Smells like . . .
MacDude.
HAHAHA you guys are funny.
Well since you all are so convinced I’m this macdude fellow, better get used to it because I’m hard to kill apparantly.
Here is my ip address so you know me later.
6.5.25.15
Oh and my website.
Be all that you can
cheers
Morty………. what can I say
he’s baaaaaaacccccccckkkkkkkk
MDN… can you make that macdude delete button adjustable? I mean, er…. can we put someone else’s name in it?
So… a US army guy uses the word “cheers”?
hmmmm….
didn’t macdude use “cheers” as a sign off alot?
Is there any way that I can delete or edit posts I’ve already made?
I shouldn’t have posted that.
I don’t want my commanding officers to find out how much time I spend posting here.
Truce you guys.
Why doesn’t MDN have an edit button???
Lets pretend that its OK for users of Army networks to spend all day trolling Mac forums and posting the IP addresses of network routers. I know a few people in the Army and they have very, very strict policies on what they can use their computers for. They can’t spend all day on web forums like us Fortune 500 corporate guys.
BTW, if you reverse dns 6.5.25.15, surprise surprise, it doesn’t exist.
there are A LOT of stupid people posting here…
morty is not one of them.
you people forget that anyone can post under the name “morty” to make him look like a troll….
the people who do that (cloners) are the real trolls…
I take that back, it is a valid IP.
Morty, what if Corporal Punishment finds out you’re wasting taxpayer money trolling Mac forums? He’ll put you in the Cooler for sure.
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IP Address: 6.5.25.15
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Address: 3990 E. Broad Street
City: Columbus
StateProv: OH
PostalCode: 43218
Country: US
NetRange: 6.0.0.0 – 6.255.255.255
CIDR: 6.0.0.0/8
NetName: YUMA-NET
NetHandle: NET-6-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS01.ARMY.MIL
NameServer: NS02.ARMY.MIL
NameServer: NS03.ARMY.MIL
Comment: Army Information Systems Center
Comment: U.S. Army Yuma Proving Ground
Comment: Building 2105
Comment: Yuma, AZ 85365-9110 US
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OrgTechHandle: MIL-HSTMST-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network DoD
OrgTechPhone: +1-800-365-3642
OrgTechEmail: **********@nic.mil
IP Address: 6.5.25.15
OrgName: DoD Network Information Center
OrgID: DNIC
Address: 3990 E. Broad Street
City: Columbus
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Hey Morty/MacDude/whatever,
Maybe you should change your screen name to BTK…
…cuz you’ve been CAUGHT!
HA-ha!
Enjoy the stockade, schmuck!
Good… I just love the smell of Court Marshall’s in the morning…
Especially if it’s MacDude/Morty.
MW=End Please may it be so…
Macaday, macyak and the rest – Why do you people wish others so much illwill?
Macs are for the mentally ill people.
HP definetly sucks, only reason they are popular is due to their cheap prices, its like the walmart of pcs.