Writing about Apple’s Boot Camp which allows Intel-based Macs to dual boot Windows XP, Joe Wilcox writes for Microsoft Monitor, “The obvious benefactor would be MacBook Pro, which could appeal to people interested in the sleek laptop but needing to run Windows. For example, JupiterResearh surveys show pretty good uptake of Mac OS X on the desktop, mainly as a Unix replacement, by large businesses. Those same businesses, many of which already have rights to Windows licenses through their enterprise agreements, could install Windows XP on Intel-based Macs. For that exec long lusting for an Apple laptop, Windows XP could make the difference.”
“Similarly, there are some people that might want or need both Mac OS X and Windows. My daughter is an example. She uses Mac OS X for making movies and working with other digital content, but her favorite games all require Windows. Rather than work on two computers, she could dual-boot to Windows. The point: Apple has removed another barrier to switching,’ Wilcox writes. “Colleague Michael Gartenberg calls Boot Camp, a ‘nice tactical move by Apple that will make their platofrms and systems much more attractive.’ I totally agree… Apple should give the person(s) writing its Web copy a raise. It’s as much marketing as instructional. The Boot Camp instructions tout the software while jabbing at Microsoft. Under subhead Word to the Wise: ‘Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it’ll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes.’ While good advice, the wording is a knock [against Microsoft]. Another, about Extensible Firmware Interface vs. BIOS: ‘Macs use an ultra-modern industry standard technology called EFI to handle booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate smoothly in both centuries.’ Sure, the jabbing is like a little, yappy dog barking at a big dog, considering Microsoft’s dominance on the desktop compared to Apple. But this little dog has got some teeth, too.”
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isn’t switching between OS’s an absolute pain in the A$$ right now??
if i remember correctly what i read, one needs to REBOOT to use the other??? that true??
Aren’t they talking about running each OS on their own processor??
I hope Leopard has fast OS switching.
Jabbing? At Microsoft? Why, who among us would ever jab their enemy when he’s down?
“Mercy is the mark of a great man.”
[jabs sword into side]
“Guess I’m just a good man.”
[jabs sword again]
“Well, I’m alright.”
Ummm, PJ, assuming you aren’t just disinguously trolling here, where have you been for the last 24 hours? The entire front page of MDN, like, is nothing but links about dual-BOOTING Windows XP on the Mac.
Just like, you know, asking.
As I have been stating all along, the Intel switch is about getting people to switch, not to punish IBM as many armchair experts have claimed. The biggest objection people have to switching is having to replace their existing software library at time of purchasing a Mac, or that they have a single application that may be unavailable for the Mac or proprietary to the business they work for.
Allowing XP to run on Macs isn’t caving in to MS like a lot of PC apologists would like to think it is. It’s about overcoming objections to switching. Apple transitioned people successfully once when they allowed OS9 users to slowly phase out their older software, by using Classic. This is the same strategy and it’s brilliant.
“It’s not the size of the dog in the fight.
It’s the size of the fight in the dog.”
What the hell is the point of ‘switching’ if you’re just going to use Windows. The whole point of switching is that you’re ‘switching’ to a superior OS!
Man, I hope this is the right move for Apple.
As has been observed on several threads, an important element of the Boot Camp capability will be to help those people who are stuck with one piece of crucial legacy Windows-only software they can’t work without. A frequently cited example is AutoCad, but another one which I use in my work (and would love to play with at home because it’s just so cool) is AGI’s Satellite Toolkit (STK). I work with space software development, and STK is an important visualization and analysis tool. In its earlier life it was developed under UNIX but after version 4 it migrated to Windows-only.
Well, I just sent AGI an email mentioning Boot Camp and saying that I’d be happy to serve as a tester of STK running on a Windows-booted Mac for them. I’d even do it gratis, assuming they’d send me a license for their 3-d Advanced Visualization Option graphics package, of course…
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I’ve stated here on other news items about Boot Camp that I think the euphoria is totally overboard, and that at the end of the day things will settle down with, at best, only a slightly higher percentage penetration for X vs. Doze.
But I can certainly agree with the tone and point of view of this article. I do feel it will make a differance to alot of people that OS X has this new capability. It’s a matter of degree, though.
There will be switchers that will be convinced by this. But there is no way that this is going to dethrone Dull or MS from being the top box/OS sellers, repectively. This is absolutely a non-item to the vast majority of computer buyers. Just today a co-worker asked me about laptops for her grand son. I asked what sort of computer he was interested in. She said Dull, needed Word/PP, etc..
That’s the real world, not the predictions that 10.5 will cause OS X market share so high that MS and Dull go out of business. A year from now I will propose a toast to anyone who proves me wrong.
MAL- Too funny. How about:
“Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don’t you think?”
People will “Switch”, then keep using Windows until it gets totally screwed up with viruses and spyware. Then, they’ll start using their Mac side instead of dealing with fixing their Windows side.
Shawn
dearmond.net
What the hell is the point of ‘switching’ if you’re just going to use Windows.
– Well, it increases Mac marketshare.
– The Mac runs windows as fast or faster than comparable wintel machines.
– You can still email and surf the web when the next big Windows virus hits.
– You have a great looking machine with the best rated customer service.
I mostly agree with macromancer. It’s insane to me that people think this is about anything more than drawing people to the platform. So stop all the yip yap about “Apple is a hardware company.” Mac is about the whole experience; the beautiful hardware and the intuitive OS. They go hand in hand – you can’t have one without the other.
This is not about giving in to MS; Apple is on the fast track and microsoft just pulled out their leisure suits – are you kidding me!? This is about thinking different. Apple is not about taking over the world and whoreing itself to do so a la MS.
Unfortunately most people who comment about what apple is doing are unable to Think Differently.
It’s not hard people!
Apple knows that given the choice, people are going to choose Mac OS X more often than Windows. Heck, even if they choose Mac OS X 20% of the time, Apple will gain MASSIVE market share.
Glad I got a MBP. As soon as I get it back from defect repairs at Apple, I’ll be saying how great their quality control is.
Yes Shawn, I think you pretty much nailed it. It will lead to a dramatic comparison, which is what Apple is hoping for.
Here is what has been going on since Apple has opened the retail stores:
Customer: If I switch to the Mac will I be able to use my software from my old PC?
Salesrep: No, but…
Customer: I don’t think I will be purchasing a Mac today.
Now with Boot Camp:
Customer: If I switch to the Mac, will I be able to use my software from my old PC?
Salesrep: Yes, Not only do you get to keep your old software and files, but you get the entire library of Mac apps, which includes iLife, etc…
Customer: Wow, all that and it’s only $1,299
MDN Word: During. As in its interesting what you say during a sales pitch can have a dramatic impact
(As posted elsewhere)
When a generic drug becomes available, the original patent holder doesn’t automatically gain marketshare. This may sell more cheap Dell machines so people can spend $95 on OSX and $75 on iLife and have it all.
It’s amazing to read all the posts where people are assuming Windoze users will now automatically consider Apple hardware simply because it runs Windoze, too.
Consider: soon there will be no significant difference between Apple and Brand X hardware. Brand X hardware will be able to run OSX. There can be no doubt that legal methods of enabling OSX on Brand X hardware will start popping up like “Soft Windoze” products did before.
Legally, Apple will lose the ability to tie its software to Apple brand hardware once the inevitable and successful court challenge emerges.
This is a two-way street. Apple may stand to lose more than it does to gain.
I think what may be need to shepherd Windows sheep… er… users to Mac OS X once they start dual-booting, would be some kind of utility that could sync between the contents and settings of the other (Windows) partition. Things like documents, bookmarks, etc.
Maybe even some kind of universal document folder that both systems could use?
I know lots of people who are sitting on the fence. If something like this were available, the hop into the Macintosh backyard would be little more than a hop.
Boot Camp is making Apple is looking Scary Brilliant!
MDN Magic Word: INDEED!
Brand X hardware will be able to run OSX. There can be no doubt that legal methods of enabling OSX on Brand X hardware will start popping up…
Oh, I have plenty of doubt. Between EFI and TPM, there’s unlikely ever to be a method of booting OSX on a commodity PC that doesn’t involve jumping through a ton of hoops and using a severely hacked-up version of the OS. Keep in mind that Apple will not provide a sitting target. Apple will continue to disable every method the hackers come up with, forcing them to create even more convoluted methods to get the OS to run.
Add in the fact that full functionality will be a pipe dream, due to a lack of OSX drivers, and you can rest assured that no one is going to use OSX on a Dell as their primary computer. It’s a vanity thing for hackers, nothing more.
I just had some fun with a dell rep via chat on the Dell website.
I asked since Mac’s do Windows now why should I buy a Dell, I knew what ever answer he gave me was gonna funny.
But I never thought he’d lead off with “Dell’s world leading computer designs” as a reson to choose Dell over Apple. I almost fell over.
I had to amuse myself for a few minutes today
Lifelong Mac user who will NOT be installing Windoze
Maybe we should all chat with Dell
LordRobin,
Apple just provided drivers for Windoze. It will not be difficult for someone to provide drivers for OSX. Hardware methods of prevention will be legally bypassed, just like DVD John did for the “unbreakable” DVD coding.
It is only a matter of time. I expect that time to very short.
And then there is the whole matter of “tying” to hardware. Apple will lose that legal battle. Precedent is not on their side.
Apple opened this can of worms. It is too late to stop it.
RE: informed
>Apple just provided drivers for Windoze. It will not be difficult for >someone to provide drivers for OSX. Hardware methods of prevention >will be legally bypassed, just like DVD John did for the “unbreakable” >DVD coding.
>It is only a matter of time. I expect that time to very short.
So lets see. The Intel Mac and the OS X version that runs on Intel Macs came out at the same time.
How is it Windows got hacked in record time running on a Mac?
BUT
OS X running on a PC? Hello……hello…..
It should be easier, OS X code is smaller than Windows, it’s based on unix and that code is everywhere.
Hmmm. Must be harder to do than you think.
Informed is STILL crapping on about this legal precedent.
The case he offers is NOT the same as the Apple siuation, but he doesn’t seem to understand that.
Also the reasons that LordRobin offered (EFI TPM) are VERY sound resons why it is and will be harder to hack OS X onto a Dell (or similar) box.
Windows, especially if they continue to use BIOS, will ALWAYS bee easier to run on ANY x86 hardware mix.
my 2 cents
Luke
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Sorry just noticed the generic drug anaolgy made by “infomred”.
Sorry mate – not a valid analogy (though like your legal “precedent” you seem to make a habit of that).
This is NOT like a generic drug manufacturer situation. YOu are right, when a generic manufacturer starts making generic copies of the original drug, the original drug loses market share.
But in this case who is making the generic copy of OS X. You say this may sell more Dells, so people can buy OS X and iLife? WHAT THE F%$k???
Have you READ the stories, this isn’t software that runs on DELLS mate! It is software that runs on Macs! So using YOUR same logic: “This may sell more [Apple Mac] machines so people can spend [$199 on Windows XP] and have it all.”
FYI – I work in the pharmaceutical industry, and I can tell you that Boot Camp is more like like this scenario:
An orginal research company (Apple) decides to “licence” a drug (Windows XP) in order to boost their “portfolio” to make it easier for customers to buy all their computing needs(medication needs) from the ONE company (Apple).
Sure the “licencee” company makes some cash, but in this case, the aim is that consumers see that the Apple software is better than the Windows stuff and decides that they will start using the Apple software instead in the FUTURE. Because just like the pharmaceutical companies that (DO) licence and then make generic copies of their competitors to make their offering more attractive, you can be sure Apple (like these drug companies) will push THEIR product MORE than the “licenced” product.
my 2 cents
Luke
I have seen Mac OS X 4.3 running on a Dell. To top it off, the OS was downloaded illegally. It can be done. The hacked drivers are out there. Right now it’s a geeks only operation but it is already happening.
Oh, and it did look like lipstick on a pig.