“More delays to the release schedule for Windows Vista revealed Friday suggest that problems with shipping the OS may be broader than Microsoft has admitted,” Elizabeth Montalbano reports for Macworld UK. “Beta testers familiar with Microsoft’s plans to release test versions of the OS said that although Microsoft has said Vista development has been delayed a few weeks, the date the OS will be released to manufacturers has been pushed back two months.”
“In a hastily scheduled conference call Tuesday, Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft’s Platforms & Services division announced that the consumer versions of Vista would not ship on PCs until January 2007, though business customers will have access to Vista before the end of the year through the volume licensing channel. This means Microsoft and its hardware partners will miss selling Vista PCs during the busy holiday shopping season in the US between late November and late December,” Montalbano reports. “Allchin characterised the delay in development as ‘a few weeks’ on Tuesday’s call. But a two-month change in the RTM of the product clearly suggests development is off track by more than that. Moreover, analysts said missing its target date for the holiday season gives Microsoft breathing room to push back Vista’s release even further into 2007. PC sales are typically slower in the first and second quarters of the year, said Joe Wilcox, an analyst with Jupiter Research. ‘Microsoft missed the holidays, so January might as well be July,’ he said.”
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hahahaha they take so long updating it – by the time they have nearly finished, they need to start again.
Yeah, if I were a business customer I’d feel real confident buying this monstrosity.
Official release date: The Twelfth of Never
MAN this is amazing. From what I read, Microsoft intended to re-write up to 60% of the Vista code _between now and release_!!! Imagine the security and stability issues in rewriting half of any OS in less than a year. It will take that long just to test!
We’re releasing VISTA next Julember, and that’s all I can tell you.
Whats 60% of 50 million lines of code and how many ppl are needed to write that much code by january?
MS is in deep doo doo. They are caught in a tar pit and refuse to grab at the solid land to get the hell out. Only a total architecture change to a unix/unix like kernel can save them for the long term, though they will lose their dominance for their stupid delay and lack of leadership in any case. Apple will eat a good part of their desktop lunch and Linux will keep replacing MS in the server space. It couldn’t happen to a more rotten company.
Has anyone else noticed how Micro$oft are adding ‘Beta’ to all their new apps, just like Google do?
Businesses will NOT be installing Vista any time soon. Unlike consumers, they are far too dependent upon established software and stability. Most companies will wait until Vista’s Service Pack 1 is released, and then a few more additional months to insure that SP 1 is itself stable and fully compatible with their needed software. Most companies predict a move to Vista around 2008.
This brings to light one more major advantage to Mac OS X; stability and reliability come much quicker to Mac users, usually within weeks. Businesses can take full advantage of Mac’s improvements and innovations much quicker. Such an early adoption of newer and faster technologies could save some companies thousands or even millions of dollars, not to mention the additional savings in IT department costs when far fewer problems need to be resolved.
Apple’s new battle cry: “Total Cost of Ownership!”
Love that headline!
Now we know the reason that Microsoft stopped using the year it was released in the product name (Windows 98, Windows 2000) – they have no idea when this turkey, er, albatross, will be released!
Vista: wave of the future, whenever it is released.
Apple: download some tunes
MacIntel: Steve’s surrender
Other than unreliable widgets, OS 10.xxxxxx
is little more than XP now. When Vista hits, the Macs will be history – just as Steve has planned.
This Christmas is gonna be HUGE HUGE HUGE for Apple.
From Micro$oftopoly
To Mr P. Thurott
Here is your copy of Windows XP Service Pack 3. This was previously known of as Windows Vista and Longhorn prior to that. Please hold your opinions and comments from publication until at least January 1, 2010 as the copy you have is a preview.
WindowsDailyNews is boring.
I’ll put money on two thirds of businesses not upgrading to VISTA for a few years, if at all. VISTA will cost more from every angle and deliver no more, just in a slower more complicated way that will make systems break down more often and as the final nail in its coffin, will probably be no less insecure than what has gone before.
Its days are numbered, for sure.
Andiamo Apple!
Balmmer ” we have great things in the pipeline”
YEa, they are perpetually in the pipeline. This still isn’t a big deal because has anyone mentioned the word VISTA to your average windohs user?
They don’t have a clue what your talking about, except in geek circles.
People can’t be mad at a company for a new OS when they don’t even know one is “in the pipeline”
The can delay all they want, regular folks are happy with their XP.
But it is fun to watch 5 years of delays from MS. EVEN more fun when it becomes 6+.
*sigh*
Official Release date is set to 30th of February.
I really don’t understand why they are adding ‘Beta’ to their products. I mean, everybody knows their products are in Beta, always. Zctually, they have never finished a product.
MW: not, as in: M$ will NOT ship this beast, ever!
Clearly Vista, aka LongTurd, has been a lie from the get-go.
“Most companies will wait until Vista’s Service Pack 1 is released, and then a few more additional months to insure that SP 1 is itself stable and fully compatible with their needed software.”
Don’t you mean Service Pack 4 (at least)!
Hey Macs King! I resemble that remark!!
Too many exec VPs, too many programmers, and clearly nobody with a clue.
And now MS wants to take on and become Flash too? Windows foundation presentation layer or some stupid name?
I’m just a graphic artist and don’t know anything about programming, neither does MS
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Sorry Turd, I did not mean to defame you.
BTW, nice that you’re up on your Stooges quips.
Slim Jim:
I believe calling everything beta is part of the “wave of innovation for 2006” that Steve Ballmer referred to last week.
I must object to calling the vaporware OS “Albatross”. I saw some real Albatrosses in Dunedin, NZ, and it is a crime against nature to link these magnificent birds to anything from MS.
I suggest Windows “Casey Jones” Special Edition as a substitute.
Fellow contributors, I’m so VERY proud of us, one and all. We ALL know why, right?
With all the talk about Vista’s need for backward compatiablity, and different versions, I’m suprised they don’t come up with a version that is sans the legacy. Vista lite! Then take and build a new OS around that as time goes on, leaving the old systems behind after about 5 years. (Apple is doing this but after, oh say 7-10 years, because the Mac’s last longer)
50 million + lines of code in Vista?
At some point, it will develop a conscience. Rise up against its arrogant masters and then end its own shameful, miserable existence in a blinding hailstorm of 1s and 0s. (Helpful hint: Stay out of Best Buy that day.)
Official release date: The 32nd of Septober
Oh how sad for MS. As noted the business users are not going to be the first to try Vista as upgrades. Even when available they will likely order new PCs with XP to avoid problems.
Forget comparisons to 10.5 Leopard. I think 10.6 or 10.7 will be out before Vista.
radiomoscow:
I’m not the best at math, but…
If I did this right, 60% of 50 million is 30 million.
That’s 30,000,000 lines of code over the next 9 months (to get it out by Jan. 1, or so).
If my calculations are correct, there are only 23,328,000 seconds (!) in 9 months (at 30 days each).
Give a little lee-way for months with 31 days, plus they still have the rest of March, so…
1 line of code each and every second until next year.
If it were any other company, I would say no way. But this is MicroSoft (they aren’t exactly burdened by innovation.
If Gates reads the copy of OS X out loud (Puma, of course!) and Ballmer types his chubby little fingers off…
Seems very “do-able” to me.
~M
It’s not the code, bad as any mç code is; it’s what the code does. They made an os so full of shit, so inter-and-extraconnected that it’s unusable, undebuggable, unsecurable and unreliable due to cascading consequences. They wanted it to do this, that, that-and-this, this-and-that-and-more-than-that-or-this and the other thing that in the end it couldn’t do anything at all.
When monkey boy talks about innovation working its way down the pipeline, he’s talkin’ about that new tropical fruit he experimented with for breakfast … two days ago. And it’s still stuck up his pipeline. Shit sticks. Bad shit sticks bad. Now…you see…that just can’t happen to the real Steve. Real artists shit … or was that “ship”?
1 line of code each and every second until next year
or one line of code every 17 minutes if you had a thousand coders hacking away at it
If you’re a business customer, you really have no choice! You and your IT department threw in with Microsoft so you’re stuck unless you want to take a really hard stock hit by announcing a multi-million dollar IT reconfiguration.
As long as they “ship” this year, that’s all they need. Many of these corporate customers will be “buying” something they don’t plan on installing until after several months of testing with their current applications.
Windows: Where would you like to go today?
Linux: Where would you like to be tomorrow?
Macintosh: Are you guys coming or what?
July. 2011.
Vista: “The Operating System of The Future”
This is a chance for Apple to embarrass Microsoft if Leopard comes out first, and has some killer features. Tiger was an awesome leap ahead, but Microsoft has been able to say that Vista would “kinda sorta” have everything that Tiger introduced. I can’t see that happening with Leopard’s features, not unless Microsoft delays Vista for another year.
So Microsoft could be releasing an OS that won’t even catch up with Apple.
Buena
I’ve seen the part I and II but not sure how many of you have seen part II…
Why they are really delaying Vista
that’s part III