Burst.com, Inc., an innovator and provider of media delivery technology, was sued in U.S. District Court in San Francisco yesterday by Apple Computer for declaratory relief, alleging patent invalidity or non-infringement. The suit follows a breakdown in protracted negotiations for issuance of a license of Burst’s patents to cover Apple’s iPod and iTunes products. Burst anticipates responding to the complaint and filing a counterclaim for patent infringement shortly. Burst remains committed to the enforcement of its intellectual property and looks forward to successfully resolving this litigation through a license covering Apple’s Quicktime, iPod and iTunes products, including Apple’s iTunes Music Store.
Last year, Burst settled its patent and antitrust suit against Microsoft with Microsoft taking a license to Burst’s patents and paying a lump sum of $60 million. Since the Microsoft settlement, the company has been in patent licensing discussions with several companies engaged in the distribution of audio and video content on computer networks.
Burst.com, headquartered in Santa Rosa, California, is the developer of Faster-Than-Real-Time™ and Burst-Enabled™ video and audio delivery software. Burst.com’s Burstware® provides high-quality delivery of full-motion video and CD-quality audio over IP-based networks. The company, established in 1990, has built an international patent portfolio covering bursting, video delivery scheduling and Rapid-casting. Burstware®, Faster-Than-Real-Time™ and Burst-Enabled™ are trademarks of Burst.com. More information about Burst.com is available at http://www.burst.com/
Does this lawsuit telegraph something about Apple’s future plans for delivering media content? (See If Front Row can stream movie trailers from Apple, why not whole movies?) Does this action so close to Macworld Expo scuttle any of Steve Jobs’ announcements or does it support rumors of Apple’s planned video distribution system? And was that reported increase in .Mac bandwidth from 10GB to 1TB per month really just a “mistake” by Apple?
Monday, January 02, 2006
On December 10, 2005, we covered an article by Robert X. Cringely, in which he wrote:
Streaming likes to have as much bandwidth as possible RIGHT NOW. To make streaming of high-bandwidth content as painless as possible, Apple would need the kind of distributed architecture I’ve been describing at Google. Maybe Apple has that, but if they do, nobody has told me,. There are ways around this technically. Maybe Apple is using the Akamai network or its equivalent. Maybe the distribution system leverages peer-to-peer in the same manner as BitTorrent. Maybe there is some secret technology Apple will pull out from behind Door Number Three. But whatever technical solution Apple presents, the company will still have a LEGAL problem. No matter how I look at it, this supposed Apple announcement clearly bumps into the claims of little Burst.com and its nearly 40 video distribution patents. Burst has been quiet lately, which could mean something or nothing. Certainly, they haven’t announced that Apple has bought a license like Microsoft did last year for $60 million. If Apple introduces this video service as described but without a license, Burst will undoubtedly try to shut it down. So if you believe the rumor, then look for an Apple/Burst announcement. I’m not sure yet what I believe.
Cringely’s article followed a December 02, 2005 reports from Think Secret’s Ryan Katz:
Apple is planning to unveil a robust new content distribution system in January at Macworld Expo alongside its revamped media-savvy Mac mini, Think Secret has learned. The new content system and related media deals, which will include feature-length content, expanded televisions offerings, and more, will further cement Apple’s increasing lead in digital media delivery. Apple’s new technology will deliver content such that it never actually resides on the user’s hard drive. Content purchased will be automatically made available on a user’s iDisk, which Front Row 2.0 will tap into. When the user wishes to play the content, robust caching technology Apple previously received a patent for will serve it to the users computer as fast as their Internet connection can handle. The system will also likely support downloading the video content to supported iPods but at no time will it ever actually be stored on a computer’s hard drive. This method, which will be every bit as simple and straightforward for consumers as the iTunes Music Store is now, poses a number of advantages over Apple’s current pay-once-download-once system, including saving users’ hard drive space and essentially providing a secure back-up of everything purchased. Alongside this announcement Apple will also be rolling out a number of new partnerships with various content providers. Those Apple has not signed at the time of launch, one source speculated, will likely want to jump on the bandwagon soon afterwards, not unlike the vast number of additional record labels that were added to the iTunes Music Store soon after its inception.
There’s nothing to stop Apple from launching something and working out the legal niceties at a later date.
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Related article:
If Front Row can stream movie trailers from Apple, why not whole movies? – January 06, 2006
‘Kaleidoscope’ harbinger? Apple increases .Mac bandwidth from 10GB to 1TB per month – January 02, 2006
Cringely on rumored Apple ‘video locker’ content distribution system – December 10, 2005
RUMOR: Apple to debut new distribution system, partners for feature-length, TV, and video in January – December 02, 2005
Does this lawsuit telegraph something about Apple’s future plans for delivering media content?
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Yup. Cringely talked about this.. if Apple wants to stream from IT’S servers.. (movie rentals) it NEEDS access to Burst’s patents… that’s what this is about..
If Apple is somehow not ‘allowed’ to license, then they’ll bitch.
The only thing.. how can you watch movies on an iPod, if they’re just being streamed?
I guess you can’t.
Could Apple just open their war chest and buy them if the technology was important?
Can’t we all just get along? Don’t steal. Don’t be evil. If you have a technology to package and sell, do it. If you don’t sell it, or use it yourself, then the patent should be revoked in a year or three so others may use the technology.
Come on Apple, no need to resort to this. Leave that stuff to Microsoft (who already tried and failed with Eolas concerning web browser plugins)!
hhhmmmm…. .MAC gets more space, interesting……
DudeMac,
You don’t know the details of the Apple and Burst.com talks or the technologies and licenses involved, so your decision to immediately castigate Apple is telling and foolish.
Technology patent law is more about look and feel than about the tech behind it.
For example, Amazon patenting One-Click Purchasing. What the heck is that?
Just come up with a unique idea and patent it. Almost as bad as when cybersquatters were buying website names.
that apple is turning into microsoft.
for shame, for shame. i hang my mac head in disgust
more evidence,
See Fred Mertz’s post to DudeMac above. Read it. Apply it to yourself.
HAPPY 6th BIRTHDAY, OS X!!
Strong and heathy with over 18 million users, and NOT ONE hint of an impending virus or other malware.
Thank you, Apple, for making a computer system that enhances my life, and not burden it.
my god…has it been 6 years…That means that they have been ‘talking’ about Longhorn for about 7 years now…..bwwwhhahhahhahhhahhahah.
Software patents will cripple the software industry in the United States within the next 10 years.
Horrible news so close to MWSF.
However, take a look at the following link and read the bit toward the end referencing MSFT’s “criminal business model”.
Good stuff…
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3437251
that apple is turning into microsoft.
for shame, for shame. i hang my mac head in disgust
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huh? They’re trying to license technology.. this disgusts you?
Ooooooooo so close to Macworld…and Steve´s panties are all bunched up tight. This is not good for his upcoming speech….not good for his grand plan…not good at all.
Can´t you imagine Steve just bouncing off his APPLE Hqs. office walls with this one, screaming and yelling and…”We´re Apple, we have the grand vision, we have iPod…I am Steve Jobs! I own Pixar! How dare this little burst thing spoil my fun, my speech, my grandstanding, my followup interview with Katie Kouric on NBC Today and that article in Newsweek may have to be scrapped. Oh, whoa is me…and even all the air has been let out of my introducing an new Intel iBook since Intel and Dell and everyone else already showed the Yonoh-Processor Dual-Core Centriino chip technology at CES YESTERDAY!!!!”
And Steve will go on, “And Sony´s new Vaio laptop has a carbonfiber body – we were going to show that! And Dell has a 17-inch based Yonah-chip out…we just have the lowly 13-inch iBook to show…and a macmini that we can´t show because of Burst blocking us…And ACER brought out a Yonah-Intel laptop with a built-in camera in the lid – I was going to introduce that gimmick to the world, but now we have been beat!”
Then some underling will cough, “We told you APPLE should be at CES first to intro our stuff instead of later at MacWorld…”
“OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!” screams the Steve.
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Well at least MDN is hiding all news about the new Intel chips and laptops (which have the same specs as the new Apple laptops will have) that have already been introduced so that Mac people will be “surprised” come next week.
The whole thing boils down to Burst wanting Apple to pay licensing fees (which I see no problem and neither does Apple), but Burst also wanting a bite out of each song/video/movie that Apple streams.
The trolls on this thread pretending to be ashamed Mac users are fooling nobody (and sinking pretty low themselves). For all we know, Burst is now in M$’ pocket; maybe they’ve been telling Apple that they would sell them the licenses and now, just days before the Stevenote, they’ve upped their demands to extortionary levels! No, I don’t know if that is actually the case, but the fact that it IS a possibility means that those in the blame Apple first crowd should take breather and wait for the facts. More likely, it is a typical business situation where neither party is fully in the right and they’re just slugging it out. But I wouldn’t put a last-minute dirty trick past Bill Gates.
Jake: “..No, I don’t know if that is actually the case, …”
Well then quit making up FUD, Jake.
RetroBrain,
It’s the OS and the software, stupid. And it’s not who announces something first, it’s who ships it first that’s more important.
I don’t care if Dell makes a quarter inch thick laptop made of platinum for US$99 – it still runs fscking Windows. No sale.
Get it, yet?
How is this bad for Apple? It’s just a case to hopefully save Apple from having to pay 60 million Dollars for some crappy all encompassing patents made back in the day. There have been new laws covering what can and cannot be patented…Apple knows this and believes they have a case. Look at M$ new vista many “similarities” to OS X – but can Apple sue them? Maybe for certain things, but for most of the rip offs, no. I knew I should have patented the letter “T” back in ’84.
Steve needs to buy Burst. Then, that Bill guy in Redmond will owe Steve some licensing fees.
If buying Burst was all that was required to monopolize the future of video streaming, wouldn’t MS have done that by now…?
Can you imagine the re-write of Steve´s speech going on- slashing out all the parts about the new fabulous downloading of movies and tv, removal of intro of new minimac media center, front row 2, etc, etc, so that all there is to announce is that the shuffle is out, nano is now 6GB, iPod adjustments made (the NEW iPod video stuck back in the closet because of the burst problem), new ilife, iweb software…and a new ibook running the same chip that Dell uses…
Sigh.
I guess if I was Steve I would be a bit perturbed now….doing a bit of “blackmailers!” shouting.
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/asp/summaryquote.asp?symbol=BRST&selected=BRST
Market value only $22.5 million? Isn’t that just a price of a normal day out for Steve? Apple should buy them out.
@MacJack, MSFT probably can’t buy Burst. Remember, they are on probation for monopolistic behavior. Their modus operandi is steal, copy, and pretend they dreamt it up.
Steve would still be able to demo the new Front Row movie store. He’d just have to say “coming soon” rather than “available today”. (After all, Burst has committed to resolving the dispute with a licence for Apple).
MW: white, the colour of all good iThings
One more thing: If the movie service only works with Macs, this is Apple’s big chance to sell Macs to the mainstream. If the masses don’t buy it, and get their video-on-demand elsewhere, Apple won’t monopolize video like they did music. But they might just convert a few more Windows users.
Maybe if they called it iHub or iHome rather than Mac mini, there would be less of a psychological barrier for Windows users.
Get a grip folks. Our favorite company (AAPL) has lots of legal smarts and tons of patent experience. Read the following carefully:
“declaratory relief, alleging patent invalidity or non-infringement”
Obviously there is a hole that Apple intends to open up. This is not about a measly $60 million dollar licensing fee (chump change in the grand scheme of things). It goes to the point of making the patents “invalid” and allowing Apple unrestricted innovation opportunities.
This is important for future technology offerings by Apple. Apple doesn’t want to be encumbered or develop “something” and then have to keep revisiting licensing along with fees spiraling upwards as the “something” begins to mature into profitability.
The patents in question relate to core Apple technologies like Quicktime and new Apple directions like content delivery.
This is a NON STORY and won’t affect MWSF. This could easily flop around in courts for five years or more.
Lets get back to the fun of speculating about what Apple will debut next week and leave the legal rangling to all the lawyers.
Personally I’m hoping for a new lower cost MacMini…. $399 for the stripped down model.
Or they could do what they did with iTMS – offer the movie service for Mac users first, get as many switchers as possible, then upon it up to Windoze.
MacJack and others – you guys have got to read more than just MDN for your news. Google and Yahoo (and Microsoft) have already or are going to announce today that they will be offering videos on demand.
You have at least three 3,000-lb gorillas moving into Apple´s territory.
According to the article, the discussions between Apple and Burst had been going on for quite some time. The folks at Apple most likely realized that Burst was a potential problem early in the negotiations.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Apple began work on their own version of the software and has been developing it in parallel with the negotiations. If this technology is so important, it would be foolish for Steve Jobs not to prepare options. Remember that he made sure that OSX is multi-platform compatible.
I find the diparity between Burst’s market value and the value of licensing fees to be interesting.
My gut reaction to the news blurb was that Burst was doing some 11th hour hemming and hawing on licensing. But we have no real insite into that.
The terms of the lawsuit are interesting, though. I wonder if during due-dilligence with Burst, Apple engineers discovered streaming methods weren’t as novel as Burst claimed? Or Apple is so far along with it’s solution including Burst technologies, it filed so it could delay any injunction and buy itself some time?
Well, well, well posters
Wasn’t it Steve that brought Apple back from the ‘almost dead many times’ to what it is today; innovative, market leader, PROFITABLE!
Why not leave the business decisions to him……who knows, this may a backroom ploy for all we know. If Apple decisions where made from some of the posts here, I go and use Windows…….(well maybe not that far)
Wow, I’m just glad MDN read my email regarding Burst, and Cringely, etc. No credit, well, what do I expect from MDN.
As for Apple becoming MS. You should read the series of articles Cringely wrote about Burst’s lawsuits against MS. Basically, MS was shown to have lied. That’s a whole nother kettle of fish. And, why, MS is considered “evil”!
What do we know about Apple and Burst? Well, they’ve been negotiating about licensing; but apparently, Burst must see Apple as an ongoing revenue stream and cash cow have asked for the moon. I can imagine Apple would like a fixed licensing fee on the order of what MS paid, but pro-rated to better reflect their smaller market size. It’s all negotiations and so are the lawsuits. Nothing evil involved. Just lawyers trying to get the best deal for their clients.