“Intel shifted the majority of its Pentium 4 processors to 64-bit capability over the weekend. Intel quietly introduced the Intel 5×1 series, which shifts the existing 775-pin, 32-bit Pentium 4 line—known as the 5xx series—to 64-bit memory addressing,” ExtremeTech reports.
“For customers, all this means is that Intel is encouraging its customers to buy 64-bit chips instead of the older 32-bit Pentium 4s; save for the 64-bit capability, the new 5×1 series is identical to the older 32-bit Pentium 4s, and priced identically,’ ExtremeTech reports. “Prices of the new chips range from $163 to $637, in lots of 1,000 units.”
Full article here.
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Apple to use Intel microprocessors beginning in 2006, all Macs to be Intel-based by end of 2007 – June 06, 2005
Yeah when was IBM going to quietly move the G5 to 3.0Ghz?
maybe 64-bit Mac os x on mactel..
I’m too ‘po’ to afford anything now, but one day, should my diabolical scheme of education come to fruition, I will undoubtedly be able to check email on a really fast machine!
Don’t forget that you also need a 32X DVD burner and a 21″ LCD monitor to check email (as any salesperson will gladly tell you).
The very best possible thing that Intel can hope for out of their partnership with Apple — apart from sales, of course — is that Apple might somehow influence them to simplify their product line. If you’re marketing microchips to hardware vendors, it’s fine to have a three-inch-thick catalog filled with cryptic part numbers. But if you’re trying to market your chips to the general public, offering dozens of seemingly identical products leads only to frustration for all parties involved.
And, as I’ve asserted many a time, I definitely need a flux capacitor.
Does anyone actually recognize that reference anymore?
R: And, as I’ve asserted many a time, I definitely need a flux capacitor.
I had one I would have given to you, but I left it in the 1960s.
Flux capacitors were more likely to turn up in PowerBook G5s. 1.21 Gigawatts would just about power the cooling system.
i’d gladly give you a flux capacitor, but i need it to take over the universe. oh, and to take on duck dodgers.
A 64-bit processor in a new Mac mini would be nice.
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No McFly’s?
Biff killed Mcfly in 92, and ripped of my flux capacitor.
Somehow, people treating something from a mediocre movie from the 1980s as a classic reference is starting to make me feel very, very old.
If you really want to date yourself, set the “way-back” machine to the movie “Buckaroo Banzi” That believe it or not is were your gonna see the same flux capacitor (different name, same prop) on Buckaroo’s 8th dimension truck.
The Pentium 4 is crap. The Pentium M is where the future of Intel is at. A 2.5Ghz single core Pentium M blows away a top of the line Pentium 4 EE. 64 bit makes no difference, except for the ability to address more than 4GB of RAM.
Does anyone think we may see Macs with Intel chips BEFORE next summer? Anyone think Steve wanted to lower our expectations – then surprize us?
“Does anyone think we may see Macs with Intel chips BEFORE next summer? Anyone think Steve wanted to lower our expectations – then surprize us?”
I’m expecting Macworld SF. Besides, Apple never said the Intel-powered Macs would arrive in one year, the press release states: “Apple® announced plans to deliver models of its Macintosh® computers using Intel® microprocessors <i>by<i> this time next year”. By the use of the word ‘BY’, Apple is referring to a range of time (specifically, the time frame from Jan 1, 2006 up until right BEFORE WWDC ’06), not a specific date or event.
On a side note, I expect to see PowerBooks (and maybe iBooks) to be first up for the Intel chips.
I’d be shocked if they don’t introduce at least some Intel based Macs at MWSF in January ’06.
And what do you think the AOpen “Mac mini clone” was?
“Gosh, it looks just like a Mac mini….and has a Pentium M in it….what a rip off!”
What if that was the prototype MacIntel box for the low end machines?
macnut222,
By the use of the word ‘BY’, Apple is referring to the period from Jobs’ WWDC Keynote in June 2005 until June 2006 (next time this year).
Nobody from Apple said anything about waiting until 2006.
I can type no more or they’ll get me… Infer what you will.
Inside Job –
Are you related to As Seen On TV?
“Nobody from Apple said anything about waiting until 2006.”
Last time, I checked, Apple put out a joint press release with Intel titled:
“Apple to Use Intel Microprocessors Beginning in 2006″
If that doesn’t say ‘waiting until 2006’, I don’t know what does.
It is a ruse. Sets up the surprise. Porting going so well, transition moving along so smoothly, here’s Intel Macs already! No way we’re going to sit around not selling Macs until 2006 when we can start selling them this summer for back to school.
Now I have to kill you all.
(Buckaroo Banzai quote altered to fit todays situation regarding Mac OS on Intel…)
“Dance while you can, Monkey-Boy!”
http://www.tarmo.fi/arc/monkeydance.mpeg
Like your thinking B-Sabre!
Apple Mac-Apple Jack–Wintel- Mactel- Macintel-What the hell.
It’s the OZ stupid- hic- sorry, the OS.
I’ll have another of those chips. No not 64 bit– the sour cream ones.
MW- boy–as in Michael Jackson.
B-Sabre–
Sorry, but Apple wouldn’t approve anything that ugly to carry their logo.
I would not hold my breath for surprise x86 Macs this year. Developers have not ported their applications into Universal Binaries yet so an x86 Mac would have everything running on the Roseta emulation layer. This would make early x86 Macs look slow so Apple should wait until the software is ready.
AOpen’s Pandora Mac mini clone opens box of legal trouble
Posted May 31, 2005, 11:10 AM ET by Peter Rojas
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000577045099/
At the moment everyone might be buzzing about that Mac mini-alike concept PC from Intel, but it’s AOpen that’s throwing out the lawsuit-bait. Their new Mac mini clone, codenamed “Pandora,” is based on Intel’s reference design, runs on a Pentium M chip designed for laptops, and should be out by September.
Intel shows off concept for Mac mini knock-off
Posted Mar 3, 2005, 9:23 AM ET by Barb Dybwad
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000397034268/
Hmmmm…this looks so very familiar…yeah, just picture a Mac mini in metallic silver and you’ve got a clear image of the Sleek Concept Entertainment PC that Intel demoed Wednesday at its Developer Forum in San Francisco. Intel tends to use its twice-yearly developer events to try and jump-start some creativity among computer makers, and apparently this year creativity means ripping off Apple’s new concept in desktop computing. Only to differentiate its design Intel has gone out of its way to make this plastic model of the supposedly next-generation home entertainment PC scream “square” by marring its top surface with a maddeningly purposeless grid. Who wants a home entertainment system component that looks like graph paper?
Dear Confused,
Note I said “prototype”. Or maybe “Proof of Concept” is a better term. Intel’s demonstration that you CAN fit “hot” Pentiums into small enclosures. Like the Mac mini.
The lack of an Apple logo on the thing may be just camoflage. Or it might just be a demonstrator to show Apple Intel has their head in the right place….
So where are all the retards who were saying the new Mactels are going to be 32 bit systems? Stan?
Dave H: That’s 1.21 JIGAwatts!
Lisa, where are you?
“Don’t forget that you also need a 32X DVD burner and a 21″ LCD monitor to check email (as any salesperson will gladly tell you).” – ron
dude – didn’t you know you need the 23 inch cinema display, a 32x dvd burner, and logitech z680 surround to check email?
that’s what i do, on my dual 2GHz g5 tower… mmm email. 😎
Effwerd:
Being the supreme moron of all morons, maybe you’ll explain how 32-bit development systems like Xcode 2.1 will be able to exploit these new variations on suckified Pentium 4s?
Its hard to take idiots like you calling individuals who are genetically superior to you in every conceivable way “morons.”
Crawl back under a rock.
This is good news. It was needed but there wasn’t enough of an advancement in the G5s to put “older G5s” into the low end desktops AND it would have been bad for laptop sales which couldn’t get a G5 at all. Now Apple will be able to move entirely to 64 bit and since they are leading the pack at optimizing the OS for 64 bit, it should put us even further ahead of Windoze.
Jeff Harrell said- “The very best possible thing that Intel can hope for out of their partnership with Apple — apart from sales, of course — is that Apple might somehow influence them to simplify their product line.”
Good observation. Apple will come out with a cool naming system for the chips they use and those will end up being the best known ones for Intel.
No one ever doubted that Apple would eventually need to get back to 64-bit.
But the brand new, unshipped development kits, the provided (32-bit compiled) OSX build, and the brand new Intel development computers are not 64-bit. Apple’s existing Intel compiler for the developers does not support 64-bit, so OSX for Intel, as provided, doesn’t even address 64-bit memory.
Therefore, it stands to reason that 64-bit Intel-based Macs are at least two years away. Certainly, the first round of Intel Macs will not be 64-bit.
It is silly to believe that the new chips announced today are going to be used by Apple in the first wave of the transition, for the simple reason that developers don’t have access to them. Neither did Apple.
Plus, lets hope that when Apple does finally employ a 64-bit Intel chip, it isn’t some crappy Pentium 4 variant.
All your flux capacitors are belong to us..
Yonah 2GHz for Powerbooks (32-bits dual-core) and Conroe MP for desktops (64-bits). Highly probable first Mactels configurations.
…and Yonah is scheduled to enter in production late THIS year, just in time for an announcement in January 2006 in San Francisco.
Dave H, Don… actually, to me it sounded more like he said “1.21 JIGGLE-watts.” I’ll run right on home and check the DVD though, just to be sure…
MW: “years” … as in, still crazy after all these YEARS
(original MW was “english,” but I messed it up. True story.)