“What is the point of Mac OS X Server? Mac OS X is Unix. I have Apache, bind, sendmail, (and whatever I want) already on here. My Mac OS X box is a server already, right? I have a home network with a half dozen Macs, and have a box that does some serving, and I want it do more. So, I set out to figure out what this Server thing is,” Pudge writes for Slashdot.
“Sure, I can read. I can go to the Mac OS X Server web site and read all thedocumentation for things related to ‘standards-based management,’ ‘share printers and files,’ ‘n-tier’ solutions. Yawn. I know all about this stuff, and I know I can do it already. If I am paying good money for this, it better have value I can’t already get for free,” Pudge writes.
This looks to be an in-depth review of Mac OS X Server with more parts to follow. Part one can be read here.
I just hope it’s not trashed by the same five Slashdotters who obsessively clamor for Ogg Vorbis on the iPod….
Yes mac osx is so good only small minority needs server version.
Small minority huh?
OS X Server is totally sweet. After years of Windows Servers, UNIX Servers, and LINUX servers… it’s like suddenly sitting behind the wheel of a BMW 7 series after spending unmeasured time trying to get Chevy’s and Buicks and Fords to drive the way you want.
Ed, Whats wrong with asking for Ogg Vorbis support on the iPod? You must be one of those fanatics who only believe something is good when Steve Jobs blesses it I guess. I have an iPod. I have an iBook. I’m entitled to ask for Ogg Vorbis. And the more choices there are, the better off we’ll all be.
Ogg Vorbis? How geeky can you get? It’s doomed just because of the dorky name. Why don’t you hack the iPod yourself, while the rest of us will be happily listening to music.
I’ve never thought to use ogg because, frankly, it sounds like something you can contract if you don’t shake your pee pee after going to the bathroom.
But why not support it on the iPod? As the saying goes, “Don’t cost nothin'”
What’s wrong with Ogg Vorbis? Who cares … I wanna know what’s wrong with Fords! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jeff, I don’t have any problem with the idea of people asking for Ogg Vorbis. But what I all too frequently find irritating is manner in which many of this very small minority of people make this request. Their tone is often whiny and expectant, or overly defensive, and some even stoop to silly conjecture and lash out at others like you just did.
Personally, I’m not going to be better off if iPod supports Ogg. To be perfectly honest, I think we need fewer lossy audio formats, not more. But overall I am indifferent to the issue; I just wish some of the people who have invested themselves so heavily in Ogg Vorbis would behave in a slightly more mature manner. Maybe providing rational, objective arguments as to why we should be interested in having iPod support Ogg Vorbis would be more beneficial for your cause than your current approach.
It’s freedom of choice we want, but it’s freedom *from* choice we often need. Toothpaste and dish/laundry detergents spring to mind – serious, how many varieties of these things could we possibly need?
However, when it comes to software, the sky’s the limit I guess…
I agree with Thelonius, OS X Server 10.3 is like driving a BMW. I’ve been using 10.2 all along, and I got 10.3 the other day (clean install), and within 15 minutes after install, I had my webserver running with WebDAV setup, my AFP shares all set up, FTP was, well, FTPeeing, Netboot was running. That was just the first 15 minutes. As a bonus, I’m running it on a dual 2g G5. Sweet setup.
Sure you can find most of these services on a client machine if you know your way around the shell, but the whole point is an easy to use GUI (yes, GUI, I like computers, but not enough to stare at text all day).
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I’m starting to HATE BMW because of these stupid comparisions. The Mac is simply the BEST. Let’s leave it at that. As far as Ogg Vorbis is concerned, I’d rather see support for that first than for WMA. And besides, If it makes our Linux bretheren happy, why not? We can use their solidarity against Windose!
IT’S OSX AND LINUX AGAINST “DAH VERLD!”
Hear hear: Ogg Vorbis MUST be added to the iPod!
ed:”I just hope it’s not trashed by the same five Slashdotters who obsessively clamor for Ogg Vorbis on the iPod….”
Ogg Vorbis, DiVX, 3iVX, bring’em on, all the cool codecs, Apple should make the iPod as compatible as possible (though no WMA, obviously).
14 years of Macs, countless platform arguments have humbled me into talking open source with my WinTel brethren instead of turning a gentle tech conversastion into a pissing contest.
A huge majority of WinTel users are dissatisfied by MS and beg to switch, but buying a new computer is not always in their reach. If they switch to Linux, they’re into the open source *NIX world, so Linux is the first logical step for people to share the same rich ressources, and a lot of Linux individuals are warming up to the fact that they can educate their OS X brethren to the arcanes of the command line and the wonders of the great free CLI commands and programs included in every consumer copy of OS X, such as Postix, Emacs, Vi and countless others.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, either you don’t need these UNIX apps, or you seriously need to hook up with the “five Slashdotters who obsessively clamor for Ogg Vorbis” to educate you, because you’re missing out on great classics of serious computing.
Furthermore, Linux types are the real rebels of modern computing, us Mac users are pathetic in comparison. the free Ogg Vorbis audio codec is more popular because MP3 is attached to licencing issues (which you pay when you buy an applciation that can compress audio into MP3 files, the charges for iTunes capacity to do so are included in the cost of a new Mac or a copy of Mac OS X) and the patent is partly held by Thomson, a major player in arms manufaturing, so there are obvious political reasons.
Besides, a hard-core Linux buddy swears that Ogg sounds better than MP3 at comparable compression rates, which I am fully prepared to believe as MP3 was developed in the 1980’s…
Hear hear: Ogg Vorbis MUST be added to the iPod!
ed:”I just hope it’s not trashed by the same five Slashdotters who obsessively clamor for Ogg Vorbis on the iPod….”
Ogg Vorbis, DiVX, 3iVX, bring’em on, all the cool codecs, Apple should make the iPod as compatible as possible (though no WMA, obviously).
14 years of Macs, countless platform arguments have humbled me into talking open source with my WinTel brethren instead of turning a gentle tech conversastion into a pissing contest.
A huge majority of WinTel users are dissatisfied by MS and beg to switch, but buying a new computer is not always in their reach. If they switch to Linux, they’re into the open source *NIX world, so Linux is the first logical step for people to share the same rich ressources, and a lot of Linux individuals are warming up to the fact that they can educate their OS X brethren to the arcanes of the command line and the wonders of the great free CLI commands and programs included in every consumer copy of OS X, such as Postix, Emacs, Vi and countless others.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, either you don’t need these UNIX apps, or you seriously need to hook up with the “five Slashdotters who obsessively clamor for Ogg Vorbis” to educate you, because you’re missing out on great classics of serious computing.
Furthermore, Linux types are the real rebels of modern computing, us Mac users are pathetic in comparison. the free Ogg Vorbis audio codec is more popular because MP3 is attached to licencing issues (which you pay when you buy an applciation that can compress audio into MP3 files, the charges for iTunes capacity to do so are included in the cost of a new Mac or a copy of Mac OS X) and the patent is partly held by Thomson, a major player in arms manufaturing, so there are obvious political reasons.
Besides, a hard-core Linux buddy swears that Ogg sounds better than MP3 at comparable compression rates, which I am fully prepared to believe as MP3 was developed in the 1980’s…
SBW:”I’m starting to HATE BMW because of these stupid comparisions.”
I don’t like cars that much (long distance skateboarder meself) but they give interesting metaphors (not comparisons, you cannot compare totally different things) in the sense that car similies appeal to the non-computer-literate people that need to understand what’s going on “under the hood”.
Meself, I like to describe CISC, RISC and the general computer performance issue (you don’t buy a car on the motor’s max. rpm, do you?) by comparing the classical cylinder motor with the rotative motor, the latter being a rarity in cars, due to the difficult engineering involed in manufacturing this cylinder-less engine, but it packs more power for less volume.
SBW:”I’m starting to HATE BMW because of these stupid comparisions.”
I don’t like cars that much (long distance skateboarder meself) but they give interesting metaphors (not comparisons, you cannot compare totally different things) in the sense that car similies appeal to the non-computer-literate people that need to understand what’s going on “under the hood”.
Meself, I like to describe CISC, RISC and the general computer performance issue (you don’t buy a car on the motor’s max. rpm, do you?) by comparing the classical cylinder motor with the rotative motor, the latter being a rarity in cars, due to the difficult engineering involed in manufacturing this cylinder-less engine, but it packs more power for less volume.
Ogg Vorbis: another important thing.
I surmise that Linux users CD collections are encoded in Ogg, so if the “five Slashdotters who obsessively clamor for Ogg Vorbis” have only 5000 tunes and an iPodt each, that would give’em 5 isolated Linux users on the planet (ed, seriously…) 25’000 and 5 good reasons to switch.
‘Nuff said.
Hay Sweat Stain Guy,
I hear ya but I’d rather use women as a metaphor or even Old/New Metalica. Yeah, remember when Metalica actually cared more about the Music than the MONEY?
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