“So, the Xbox 360’s been available for, what, 15 minutes, and already the crash reports are streaming in. According to postings on Xbox-Scene and other fan sites, some early adopters are discovering that waiting on line in the cold for two years to snag a box was the least of their problems: the game consoles are allegedly crashing during a variety of games and reporting a range of error messages,” Marc Perton reports for Engadget.
Full article a screenshot of a crashed Microsoft Xbox 360 units here. [Thanks to “macnut222” for the heads up.]
“A quick look on our forums (more, more and more) seems to indicate he’s not the only one. Several of our members seems to get crashing 360s. It doesn’t seem to be related to a specific game, as we get reports of the Xbox 360 crashing with several games. And it’s not all the same Error-number either (E79, E74, E64, real crashes, …). I quickly checked over at TeamXbox and they also have a large thread and poll about defective Xbox 360s,” XanTium reports for Xbox-Scene.com.
Full article here.
Various crashed Xbox screenshots via Flickr here.
In somewhat related news, The Register reports that a UK woman was “was pulled unconscious from her house by two strangers after succumbing to smoke generated by a faulty Xbox… Anglesey fire and rescue spokesman Dave Evans confirmed the fire was caused by a ‘fault in an Xbox game machine’ left on standby. Back in February, Microsoft recalled 14.1m Xbox power cables shipped into Europe before 13 January, 2004 and in other territories before 23 October, 2003, as we previously reported. MS admitted to ’30 or so reports from users suffering minor burns, singed upholstery or scorched carpets as a result of power lead malfunctions.'”
Full article here.
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Microsoft, nothing if not consistent.
suck my ass microsoft !!
One of the ELEMENTS of the Xbox 360 must be Vista as the OS…that would explain the BSODs!
Despite the Sony CD issue, I’m waiting on the PS3. I won’t be purchasing any Microsoft products ever again.
Isn’t this a “feature” ? I’m pretty sure it’s standard across a broad range of Microsoft’s products, so it must be a feature.
remind me again why an article like this is found at a Mac site? Oh yeah, you guys are almost as obsessed with MS as you are with Apple.
LOL I can’t stop laughing…
hmmm, thanks for coming!
Now, fsck off!
my original xbox, purchased two years ago, quit working after about 2 weeks of use. customer service was ridiculous and would not excahnge the machine. last microsoft product i purchased or will purchase. a week or 2 ago i got a new power cord from ms with a letter saying that some power cords are defective and the defect might damage the machine. thanks. f*** microsoft.
Is their a CTRL+ALT+DEL equivalent on the remotes?
We know for sure now that it has the B.S.O.D. (Black Screen of Death) feature at least…
## NEWS FLASH ##
Microsoft Spokesman just announced……
‘You can rip it out of your wall, take it outside and douse it in petrol, and light it up. this will ensure that it does not freeze.’
Mine has so far been crashing a lot when I try and play Microsoft’s own “Sheep Herder®” game.
You know, the new title where a giant Ballmer goes from country to country while sweating and herding all the Windows® users into ATM queues. So they can withdraw more of their money and hand it over to Redmond.
What a gyp. I really wanted to be a sheep in that game. Hey, wait- I AM a sheep. I mean, I just realized: I bought this stupid XBOX the day it came out, after all. Yay, me!
BAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! BAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
I can see it now:
“I paid $2300 for an xBox 360 on eBay and I can’t complete the first lap of Gotham without the darn thing crashing.”
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Do not piss on burning X-box…..they dont deserve it.
With all this going on, can you fricking IMAGINE what would happen if Apple were ever to produce a game system of their own??
I know, I know — why would they get into THAT market?
I’m just saying: The goddamn thing would actually WORK!!!!!
I loved the eBay prices today. Seeing XBOXes going for upwards of ten thousand dollars a piece had me rolling in the aisles. Now, I see they’re commanding a more respectable grand or so.
What’s the matter with these people? Can’t they wait a couple of weeks???
http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Game-console_W0QQitemZ8236300095QQcategoryZ62054QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
just get a nintendo revolution next Fall.
I don’t think that there are any decent games out for the 360 yet. maybe gears of war, elderscrolls oblivion, or mass effect will be worth playing sometime in the future.
It’s from Microsoft, right? What do people expect? Wait till it gets a virus!!!
Sheeple — Does Ballmer wear a bonnet like Little Bo Peep in that game?
….and this is a suprise to people because….?
Game systems should not crash!!! In all my years of gaming on consoles I’ve NEVER had one crash on me, but then again I never owned an XBOX.
“I’d like to personally thank all of the devoted fans who’ve made the plunge and bought the exciting new Microsoft X-Box”. SUCKERS!
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh that’s a good one. SUCKERS SUCKERS SUCKERS ha ha ha ha ha Can you believe they’re buying these pieces of shit SUCKERS SUCKERS SUCKERS You would have thought they’d learned from Windows ha ha ha ha ha ha ha What a bunch of maroons!
MW: early (early adopters work the bugs out SUCKERS SUCKERS)
I can’t wait to upgrade my current XBox with the new PS3.
Just another reason you don’t buy new consoles right off. Often good to wait a couple extra months for the bugs to be worked out, though in Microsoft’s case you may be waiting indefinitely.
xbox 360 is a good product guys. Manufacturing defects aside, this is a fine next gen product.
i am going to get all 3 systems tho.
go games!
Well this is the company who bought you “Windows” (I fail to comprehend why this Xbox Company is named after the bosses penis, thats doomed from the start)
My coworker bought the x-box and everygame, we can only play for 2 minutes before the whole system crashes!
I havent been here for awhile, Looks like you’ve takin the BS to a whole new level, so you can get those extra hits from your, uh like, 25 readers..But way to go…My 360 works just fine:) When It crashes, ill eat my words..but so far so good.
I wear green tights and swing through sherwood forest with my hairy chest
Well, you gotta give one thing to the guys at Microsoft who engineer all their products…at least they’re consistent.
MDN MW “given”. As in, “Microsoft products crashing is a given.”
Oh yeah, one more thing..Its funny how No One else on the web is reporting this issue…Typical MDN, blind journalism (?LOL?) at its best. You fags would do anything, anything at all to kill the credibility of a worthy product…Instead, lets go buy apples console. Wait a minute. THEY DONT HAVE ONE!!!!…But MS must have copied Apples idea of a console…You know, underpowered, overpriced, overhyped, and overdesigned.
Change your domain to a more suitable name…Like….Microsoft Daily News….
oh the irony
next gen starts here people
lmao
Oh dear, perhaps it’s that 3.2GHz PowerPC processor overheating.
Which would explain a lot.
Sorry, When I said journalism, I meant Plagiarism.
You guys must be (mw) BRITISH
How often does it crash? if as often as .Mac sync then it is really bad.
It’s the same shit as the guy with the nano scratches. One person starts spamming Microsoft and dummies follow.
soon microsoft will sell a crash-prevention package as an add-on.
suck our balls bill and monkeyboy
WOW MDN,
MDN didn’t make this up – Xbox users, Engadget, and The Register did the reports. That’s what the quotes and links are for in MDN’s article.
WOW Mdn, if you don’t like the site don’t read it, otherwise have a nice day fighting viruses and so forth while I get real work done on my mac. and yes the XBOX 360 has awesome specs. However the manufacturer who put it out is crap. As people have already mentioned the fiasco with the original XBOX. This is what M$ gets for pushing a product out just to make christmas. I plan on waiting in line for the PS3 which by the way kicks the living piss out of everyones overhyped XBOX 360. Sorry you poor crash victims, I hope you can get a return and save your money for the underpriced PS3.
FactChecker, Maybe MDN should make sure that the news that they are copying from other sites is real. That would releave some of the mis-conseptions about their crappy reporting…Do you believe everything you read on the web? Im going to assume you do, just becasue you are an MicrosoftDailynews.com reader..Dont worry, I wont be back. This “News” site isnt even a spec, in the underpants of W3.
Modified version of Windows NT for PPC
Yes, a version of Windows NT used to be made for PPC.
“Windows NT 3.1 ran on Intel IA-32 x86, DEC Alpha, and MIPS R4000 processors. Windows NT 3.51 added support for PowerPC processors. Intergraph Corporation ported Windows NT to its Clipper architecture and later SPARC, but neither version was sold to the public. Windows NT 4.0 was the last major release to support Alpha, MIPS, or PowerPC, though development of Windows 2000 for Alpha continued until 1999, when Compaq stopped support for Windows NT on that architecture. Only 2 of the Windows NT 4.0 variants (IA-32 and Alpha) have a full set of service packs available. All of the other ports done by 3rd parties (Motorola, Intergraph, etc.) have few, if any, publically available updates.”
http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Windows_NT
Hey, WOW MDN, did you notice that MDN quoted an article from another website, so yes, it’s somewhere else on the web, and no, it’s not plagiarism. It’s also from an xbox fansite, no less.
If you’re gonna be a troll, you need to learn to write like one. Next time, try something like, “Mac sux, windoz rulz!!! U guyz can all f$&* off and eat my s!@&!” Now, doesn’t that have a nice ring to it?
MW: duhhhhh…
For: WOW MDN
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEFkZkkkyEHasmrPqu.php
Eat your words sucker.
How about Microsoft’s site? Would you believe theirs?
They have multiple support articles on 360 crashing/freezing issues. one was written as early as Oct 25th, so they definitely already knew of the problem.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817385/
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;818358
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907588
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907536/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907533/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907534/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/906652/
MacTech84
Do u just cut and paste that “get out of this site” mantra each time u see a post u disagree with?
It is obvious that that WOW guy just wanted to draw your attention to the fact celebrating someone’s failure is a not a good character trait.
I would even add to that that that type of behavior is typical to someone who is not confident in his/er own power. I assume that the Apple’s market share worries u subconsciously. I would agree that until it remains as tiny as it is there is good a fair reason for any Mac fan to be worried but that does not justify celebrations of other’s failures (at least in the area where Apple is not competing with Microsoft); I hate to say that but u seem to have lost the sense of reality here – if MS is that bad why Apple still can not beat it?
WOW MDN <—- here we have another prime example of the closed minded, inferior obsessed, wishing for a bigger ****, LEMMING that is the true KoolAid drinker that MicroSuck makes its living from.
You could do nothing more original than try to bash upon something original by claiming obscurity?
Which makes me wonder, how did you come to this site in the first place? Did your Xcox crash already and you were trying to find a solution so that you would not have to send it back. Thusly loosing a bet you placed with your Playstation friends in the fact that all MicroSuck products will crash at least once in the first week of operation?
Follow the link
http://www.techimo.com/newsapp/i15138.html
Not only does MS make software that will crash YOUR computer, they make hardware that will screw up other computers as well.
Sure seems like a bit more significant that ‘scratched’ screen.
Let the lawsuits begin!
This is all just FUD. Oh wait, only Apple is the victim of FUD.
games are a waste of time. Sitting in front of the tv for hours drooling while damaging the ligaments in my thumbs
what does this have to do with apple?
And how much did all these losers pay for their xBox?
$399 + Tax + Shipping + y($50) = xBox
The variable “y” in this equation equals “number of games purchased”.
The variable “x” in this equation equals “Crash”.
All hail the almighty CrashBox from Micro$oft. These losers could have built a PC that does everything and more and purchased the PC versions of these games and saved a Micro$hit load of money in the process.
LMAO
“if MS is that bad why Apple still can not beat it?”::First, it’s ‘cannot’. Second, you are focusing your “reality” in the wrong direction, most people will be like nature. They act like Entropy, they take the easiest route. But with Microsuck, this route is not the eastiest. They think that they are getting a bargin, but in truth they are spending little money on little value.
They get:
— a cheap computer with cheap components
— an ancient OS that is only cobbled, aka patched, together to make work with every update–of which NEEDS to be patched daily once relased
— takes an enormous amount of learning to understand
— is flaky when it does work
— gives a false sense of comfort in the fact that there are “others” out there, aka Stockholm Syndrome
— headaches, stress, illness from stress
— bewilderment at the fact that this is actually a comptuer
— brainwashing into believing that there is no alternative (dead wrong on that point, hence this and MANY other sites devoted to Mac info.)
— considerable time investment on learning, optimizing, and defending there “computer”
— daily updating of virus, spyware, malware protection
— lost $$$ on the cost of protection software
— lost time fixing the “computer” when it could be used towards productivity
Shall I go on? These are my observations of what people have gone through, not readings from the countless sites that can back up each statement here.
MDN MW: “expensive”:: It truly is expensive to operate Winblows.
It’s a built in feature. A new level of play. Find the secret hidden message. It’s there, just look real hard.
Dumb ass gamers.
macnut222 — you’re getting more articles posted here than i have been recently. You better watch it man, or i’m going to send WOW MDN over to live under your house.
On a related note, has site traffic increased here? We seem to have sprouted a new, much more generic, brand of troll in the last few months?
WOW MDN,
From your use of derogatory language – “fags” – I would guess you are a right wing, narrow minded, homophobic, bigot who couldn’t even point to to Britain on the map, let alone spell it without the help of a spell checker.
My second guess is that you are American.
Which reminds me of a favourite sport Australians like to play – Where’s that country? Show Yanks a map of the world and ask them where a country is. Then die laughing as they point to Russia when asked to point to the U.S.A., or Australia as Iraq.
True to form, they make them “good enough” – good enough for suckers that is!
Yet another great solution from Microsoft – the Xbox 360!
Will folks ever learn – M$$$$$ IS ALL ABOUT MONEY NOT CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND GOOD WILL!
HOLD OFF YOU GUYS – JOB’S WIL COME AROUND SOONER OR LATER AND OFFER A iGAME SOLUTION AND THE WOULD WILL COME A RUNNING
And you aren’t narrow minded and stereotypical yourself there Stuart? I know most people from Australia aren’t, so I won’t lump all Aussies in with you…
This is what happens when you’re dumb enough to want to be ‘cool’ and be one of the first to own a new product. Better to wait a while, even one week will do, to see if there are going to be problems with a product.
And I’ll throw Apple into this hole as well. If people had waited a while after the nanos release and then realised that it easily prone to scratches, then they may have thought twice about purchasing. Best to wait until bugs are ironed out before leaping in. But on another note, you’d think MS would have tested this new machine before releasing it. And I don’t mean play the first few levels of each game and say yeah it works.
>WOW MDN,
From your use of derogatory language – “fags” – I would guess you are a right wing, narrow minded, homophobic, bigot who couldn’t even point to to Britain on the map, let alone spell it without the help of a spell checker.
My second guess is that you are American.
Which reminds me of a favourite sport Australians like to play – Where’s that country? Show Yanks a map of the world and ask them where a country is. Then die laughing as they point to Russia when asked to point to the U.S.A., or Australia as Iraq.>
We Yanks don’t need all that geography stuff–We’re MS gamers.
Right wing is the way to go.
From your use of derogatory language – “fags” – I would guess you are a right wing, narrow minded, homophobic, bigot who couldn’t even point to to Britain on the map, let alone spell it without the help of a spell checker.
—
Hey we can dislike gays and shut up about it and you can BE gay and shut up about it. How’s that?
No.. gays don’t like that deal..
And the Microsoft downward spiral continues…
Some ‘net sites are reporting polling almost as high as 15% failure rates. Even accounting for anti-Microsoft trolls at those sites the real failure rates could be as high as 10%.
Apple had a problem with the iPod nano screens with about 0.1% of them being truly bad (in the first groups shipped).
Because of this there were loud screams of “recall” and “class action lawsuit”. There actually is a lawsuit filed for class action status (don’t know if the status was granted or not). This is about a < 1% issue.
Why are we not hearing the same outrage and demands for recalls and class action lawsuits over what could very well be a > 10% issue?
(Probably for the same reason Apple was sued over repetitive stress injuries [even though Apple was the only company to ship a split keyboard which was individually adjustable] while Microsoft was not.)
Agree Shadowself. I believe the nature of the organisations and their respective ‘followers’ are to do with that. Microsoft goes for the jugular and thereby encourages others to do so too. Apple gets on with the innovation.
I also agree with the posts about trolling levels on MDN – definitely up on my view of past experience. I suggest its the kneejerk ‘attack is the best form of defence’ mechanism.
To MasterMacNikon,
In brief I see your point about why MS is still dominating the market as follows – public is stupid to tell that Apple is better.
I generally agree as I have switched and can compare both but if the customer is stupid it shall be much more easy for Apple to make them switch. Nevertheless Apple still fails to do it. Sad but true.
PS about my spelling as it that issue has been raised more then once here – if u wanna have my ideas in a less imperfect written form u may switch to my native language which is Russian. Let me know when u learn it well enough to be able to keep up a primitive conversation:)
In other news, the Sober Worm is “popping” up again in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland…
to MasterMacNikon part II
just looked up Tiger dict for “cannot”: cannot |kəˈnät; ˈkanˌät| contraction of can not.
Looks like before approaching Russian u have to master English first.
It’s obvious to me that you Mac idiots can’t see innovation when you see it. What you thought were crashes in IN FACT a new Microsoft innovation that we call LardBGone v1.0. In order to help stop the obesity epidemic in America, the console will stop playing after some time so that you will go work out. HOW’S THAT for innovation! Hey, my pal Steve Ballmers lost 10 pounds already!
Oh, and what you thought was a fire is in fact another Microsoft innovation called RealEffects v1.1. Instead of just a computer generated image of a fire on the screen, RealEffects produces a REAL fire to enhance game play. That woman in the UK probably put her Xbox next to a flammable source, which we CLEARLY explained in page 1,693 of the Xbox Quick Start Manual in BOLD 2 point font.
Hey I beat Apple to the punch this time! HA HA HA!
Why should the the X-Box 360 be the first perfect one?
Are these crashes more common than with other brands? You really can’t tell.
[Do you believe everything you read on the web? ]
Like, Windows has 87% marketshare?
[celebrating someone’s failure is a not a good character trait.]
Like, always mentioning the Macs’ 6% marketshare – as opposed to the mighty 86.7% marketshare of Window?
Evgeny, why start with Russian? It more likely seems that the asian languages are more appropriate.
And it’s grammar, not spelling.
Final word.
[Are these crashes more common than with other brands? You really can’t tell.]
I can tell.
I’ve owned every Nintendo system, less the Virtual GB. NONE of them EVER crashed. I have PSone and PS2, no crashes. Sega GameGear, no crashes.
Your naivete seems more affectation.
You’re ALL a bunch of wankers! Left Wing right handed wankers and Right Wing left handed wankers! The whole lot of ya!! Get this:
VIDEO GAME CONSOLES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION, POLITICS OR SEX! Sheesh, get a grip. Stupid gits.
Who give a red rats ass if a bunch of stupid early adopters got buggy machines?! So what? That’s just what those fcukin’ “Gotta Have It First- Mommas Basement Dwellers” deserve! Let ’em find all the bugs so the rest of us can make a reasonable purchase later.
Haha, look at the comment on the picture titled “DSC00301”!
MDN Magic Word: sense, as in Microsoft doesn’t have common sense
Heh, it’s funny cause it’s true!
HAHAHAHAHA SUCKERS!!!
I’ll get you little Mac snobs too one day, right through OfficeMac or VPC.
You’ll see.
M$: Always evil all the time.
To Max:
My mentioning of the market share was in response to the MDN take and stupid “MS sucks/Apple rocks” posts inspired by it.
I must have been pretty obvious! If you just like to say a sort of a “Final word” and do not care about the validity of your arguments add a respective note to your post so that we can skip it.
PS
if u feel comfortable with the Apple’s one digit percent share be silent about it. I do not like that miserable figure and would like it to go up. Size does matter:)
The irony is that Microsoft will lose money on every Xbox sold, the parts alone cost something like $374 assuming bulk discounts. The plan is to make money on software, of course — Microsoft’s (cough) forte.
Microsoft can afford it, so I’d advise every Xbox buyer to take the product back and ask for a refund, saying it is completely unstable. Then come back six months later and buy Xbox XP [for extra protection]. And don’t forget to get Xbox Defender when it comes out [not the game].
11:52:36
A dialog box opens saying a patch is available for your Xbox. The upgrade is highly recommended for stability.
11:53:10
You click OK.
12:15:08
Still downloading.
13:00:03
Still downloading.
15:00:08
A dialog box tells you your hard drive is full. (You’re out shopping.)
16:25:10
Your central heating trips off.
16:28:57
Your pet canary dies.
16:30:00
Your neighbor alerts the Fire Dept. about a burning smell coming from your house.
17:45:28
You return from shopping to find your street blocked by Fire Dept. tape and a Detour sign.
Less is More
there is no irony here; in this market everyone sells the game box with a loss but earns on games.
True, Evgeny, but the irony I imagined would come from having to take the boxes back.
if they take it back they will have a loss in reverse; not sure I would be a profit but it is definitely not a loss:)
Sorry for being an idyll breaker here I just very much want Cells by Apple and am annoyed that they have not released it yet while MS (with all its flaws) has been having Excel for ages. Plus I am having problems with syncing my KeyChain with .Mac [for several months]
Comment: From: Evgeny
“Nov 23, 05 – 04:54 pm
MacTech84
Do u just cut and paste that “get out of this site” mantra each time u see a post u disagree with?
It is obvious that that WOW guy just wanted to draw your attention to the fact celebrating someone’s failure is a not a good character trait.
I would even add to that that that type of behavior is typical to someone who is not confident in his/er own power. I assume that the Apple’s market share worries u subconsciously. I would agree that until it remains as tiny as it is there is good a fair reason for any Mac fan to be worried but that does not justify celebrations of other’s failures (at least in the area where Apple is not competing with Microsoft); I hate to say that but u seem to have lost the sense of reality here – if MS is that bad why Apple still can not beat it?”
Here is a cut and paste for ya, I just said if you dont’ like it don’t read it. Everything in here makes you just look like an ass, if you are a PeeCee user what are you doing in a mac forum? And I am not worried about the Mac market share, I think you might be worried that Macs might take over. In either case I don’t care about you or your points cause there are none. WOW MDN didn’t draw me out, I just made one small remark that apparantly you took to a whole new level. Is it just me or does every PC diehard think Mac Users are not confident in themselves? Well I said it before, and I will say it again. Have fun with your virus scans, spyware blockers, and general blue screens, while I work with a machine that produces results, and doesn’t create headaches 3 – 4 times a day. But probably more!!!
to MacTech
I am on a Mac:) Thee mere fact that I do not follow the MDN’s stupid takes “A rocks/M sucks” means nothing; not all Mac users are that stupid.
I worry about the Mac share for obvious reasons – the larger it is the better off are Mac users; my problem with your and the similar posts is that they hurt Apple 1) distract potential switches [when the see that u write BS against MS they will never believe the true stuff about Apple and Mac posted here…) and 2) make the entire community to struggle with a perception that if u are on a Mac u are a blind and arrogant idiot:)
BTW I also do not work for Music Labels:)
I am just a Mac user quite different from u:
Well if the name didn’t give it away I am a technician. I prefer Macs for obvious reasons. Once I set one up I am done. I have a few clients that have PC’s and I continuosuly get calls saying please come fix my machine. I am not blind nor arrogant. However I am apparantly starting to piss you off. I have made my mind up about Macintosh and I know it is the superior platform regardless what anyone can tell me. And if anyone has a right mind they would not look at the forum to see the (oh here is another cut and paste) “the entire community to struggle” they would realize the true (here is another cut and paste) “BS” comes out when users like yourself and WOW MDN decide to post (and final cut and paste) “BS” in these forums. Oh and I glad I am quite different from you! Have a nice day =)
BTW:
I am starting to have fun with this… HA!
Evgeny, it is a little more comforting for your admission that you are a Mac person. It is disconcerning in the fact that we, as Mac users, have to DEFEND our decision against PC bigiots who do nothing more than spew propaganda and lies; hence, THEY are the ones that are “drinking the kool-aid”.
When I was attending ITT Tech, I was bombarded with hatred. I even participated in a debate for my English 2 class. Of course, he kept spewing lies that were coutnered with the facts that I presented earlier, but the time limit was expired before I could rebut.
Point is, we have such reactions becuase we have to. We must battle back for our respect in an arena where respect is only given to those who are perceived to be worthy. Ego, arrogance, and just plain stupidity are the biggest factors of this perception. Am I labeling you with these, no, not anymore. You have proven yourself to be elavated above the crowd of lemmings.
Hey technician could u help Apple to fix .Mac sync for Keychain?:)
That is the reason I am so aggressive here. I does not work for several months and there is nothing on the support site:)
(Buried in this thread is someone apparently taking a dig at me by using my posting name. Odd. Especially since I haven’t even posted in this thread yet. I guess I should feel honored…)
a decent soft like MS Office and a good [I do not know the write term} network integration? [ smth which would allow Mac users to use there macs in the offices] would do much more then posting “MS sucks” for increasing the Apple’s share; I am expecting a job offer now and I am slightly upset that if a get it I will have to use PC in the office:(
Anyway sorry again for being over aggressive.
Ok really, this is funny, your grammar does suck, but you have figured out how to use smileys. HAHAHAHA…. I am done now….. HEHEHE… I have had my fill for the night… Thanks Evgeny… hehehe
I understand your aggression, but it needs to be channeled in another direction. We are not the only ones.
Unlike MacTech84, I can forgive grammar mistakes on boards when things are comprensible. And when things don’t turn into verbal shouting matches.
Hence, when we all realize that we are on the same side, potential switchers will see that the Mac comunity is strong, faithfull, and alive.
Evgeny, thank you for a lively discussion.
Oh, and let us not forget about the burn victims!
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Great! Thanks to you and others [for tolerating that xBox unrelated discussion]:)
With all the problems facing MS these days, you would think they could get at least 1 product right. Duh!
But then again, this is MShit and up to par. I guess all the salesmen aren’t in the boardrooms, some must have lost their way and wound up in engineering and manufacturing
Wahh… Happens all the time on all forums at some point… this time it just happened to you!!!
Maybe even before movies, Apple will start allowing vidoe game downloads via iTunes. Not just games for the mac, but games you could download for any of the game systems…..it’s coming.
jarrett
This is what happens when you ship by date, not by product completiong, Jobs has made several statements about shipping a product when it’s ready, not when people are tired of waiting for it. And the only product that I think was an early launch was OS X, and that was only early if you bought a copy, because it was all dual boot to begin with.
mike “Hey we can dislike gays and shut up about it and you can BE gay and shut up about it. How’s that?
No.. gays don’t like that deal..”
Deal. Providing straights shut up about their sexuality too. So no talking about your wifes/husbands/kids, no hinting to co-workers that you fancy some piece of eye candy in the office, nothing on TV showing anyone being vaguely interested in anyone of the opposite sex, absolutely nothing in the news about which celeb is dating which other celeb, no talking about weddings, and definitely no banging on about how you couldn’t work out whether that prostitute in Thailand was a man or a woman, but God you hope the latter because you quite fancied her.
Shit. Looks like there’s only computers to talk about. Lucky we’ve got MDN really, isn’t it?
“Which reminds me of a favourite sport Australians like to play – Where’s that country? Show Yanks a map of the world and ask them where a country is. Then die laughing as they point to Russia when asked to point to the U.S.A., or Australia as Iraq.”
I’ll play that game stewie, and watch you piss your pants as this dumb yank points out countries that you blokes didnt even know existed.
Then you can apologize for being so stupid as to make such rash generalizations about an entire country of people.
A rootkit by Sony?
hammy: any point you’re trying to make is not worth the effort if you, regarding yourself as all enlightened and knowing, insult others like you do. You are obviously no better than those you wish to put down and might consider taking a more generous spirited approach when you’ll more than likely get/earn more respect.
OOOOPPS Sorry hammy: my invective should have been directed at the comments made by Stuart! Didn’t read the quotes or post carefully enough! Sorry!
Once again, another product not adorned with the Apple logo gets torn apart by the MDN vultures. This is truly investigative journalism at its best. Yet another example of Apple fanatics’ “short man’s complex” graces these electronic pages. MDN and its members can’t help but bite at their competitors’ ankles, while screaming their elitist remarks at the top of their lungs. I read this site often and typically I just let it slide, but now I think I’ve had enough. I didn’t want to do this. I ignore the MDN commentaries for this very reason. Oh well, here we go.
I’m a Mac user. I love my Powerbook, but I can understand why others didn’t choose to buy a Mac. Different people prefer different things. Windows is not all viruses and spyware, as you all would like to believe. If you browse the net like an intelligent person you won’t run in to hardly any of those. Anyways, I’m consistently embarrassed by the extreme bias and childishness of this website and its members. You act like this is the first time a computer-based product has crashed. I have a Powerbook and it crashes, albeit less than Windows, but it still does. All of the consoles I’ve owned have crashed some time or another. Conversely, all the people I’ve spoken with who have an Xbox 360 (as in an audible conversation, not internet rumors) love it to death. The odd aspect of this debate is that many of you are talking up the PS3, which is made by a company you all were boycotting because of the DRM issue (another Mac irrelevant news article).
This is the only news source I rate lower than Fox. For goodness sake, what does this article have to do with Apple? I shouldn’t even have to be writing this. If I wanted Xbox news I’d venture to an Xbox site. But I don’t have an Xbox 360 and hardly do any of you. Could you all just stop giving Steve Jobs textual fellatio for one second? A company tries to ship a product for Christmas sales – big deal. Welcome to capitalism! Jobs did the same thing with the iPods and iMacs this season. The console was rushed so there were bugs still in the system. What a surprise! You all talk like the release of Mac OSX never happened.
To all you Mac elitists, stop acting like Steve Jobs is one of your “friends with benefits.” You’re infringing on Laurene’s territory. He’s a businessman out for cash like everyone else. He just happens to be the underdog and therefore must stay innovative all the time to make money. I’m sure if I were reeling in MS dollars I’d do the same thing Gates is doing. Why would he change a product that most people would buy anyways?
This site is like a venereal disease. It keeps attacking others trying to have a good time. You all make the crazy bible thumping evangelists look unbiased and sane. You all give Mac users a bad name. Can you honestly sit here believing that the other 87% or so of the population is wrong for choosing windows? You’re worse than those indie “scenesters” who think Death Cab For Cutie is the best thing since MTV. Give it a rest. Attacking others’ possible mishaps is childish and should be unnecessary for Mac users. Let the product speak for itself instead of ripping the heads off others who try to compete. Maybe once Apple enters the video game console market they can comment on Microsoft’s aforementioned endeavors, but until then MDN, please stick to Apple related content.
P.S. You all need to learn to write. The only person exempt from this is the Russian. Quit masturbating to your iPod Video porn and type with both hands for goodness sake!
P.S.S. Shadowself, did you know that 76.3% of statistics are made up on the spot? I’d point out more invalid arguments but I’m tired and want some sleep before turkey day.
So where are those “Sue-because-the product-sucks” lame-asses now???? When the nano gets a scratch some dickhead thinks he must sue Apple…..wonder whaat happens now…
Why o why am I not surprised by any of this???
A typical Microsoft product launch.
Never test the thing, poor build quality, saturate the market with crap and treat all your customers like shit.
Now, what Sony needs to do is make this a public as possible and really fuck up Microsoft.
Hey ! I just set the all time high score on sheep herder !!!
Wahoooo !
Yeh baby…beeen playin all night ! SWEET !
To all, Happy Thanksgiving, eat well, drink well, and enjoy it. Especially to our troops who can’t be with their families !
Someone posted a comment on a CNet article something along the lines of ‘Now you know why PowerMac G5’s are so big. Now you know why there was no PowerBook G5.’
IBM STILL doesn’t have a handle on heat issues with Power4 based chips. Micro$oftopoly went cheap with 2 standard PC-type fans and a water-cooled heat sink. Obviously heat management is an issue with these chips as well.
I just heard a news broadcast on the radio this morning that there are “scattered” reports of crashes on the new Xbox console when playing games. Considering the bias the news media has for protecting things Microsoft, it’s not hard to conclude that the problem is more widespread than a mere mention on the news.
From the article: Xbox 360: The console does not turn on
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907588
The MS tech article constantly refers to the ‘Ring of Light” which can be used for system diagnostics
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Perhaps rename it to “RING of SH!T” Depending on the color and smell of your RING of SH!T, you can tell how FSCKed you XBox 360 is!!!
Later fellow Mac zealots ;o)
LG
MDN Word: hold – Hold on tight for the flurry of returns MS!
See? THIS is what happens when you play Sony enhanced CD’s on Microsot products!
mdn mw=”faith”, as in ‘bad faith’
Sad fsckers
games suck anyway. they’re for sad idiots. they suck your life away. if only i could have had back all the time i’ve wasted on games what could i have done? what could i have created? xbox? who needs it. what’s it doing here? there’s more to life than this….
For Xbox Live, you’ll need to create a gamertag associated with a Microsoft Passport [you have one if you have a hotmail, msn or Xbox.com email account] and, of course, a credit card. “You will not be able to disassociate your Passport account from your gamertag, nor your gamertag from your Passport account.”
If you or the child for whom you’re setting up an account is under 18 (as signified by either the existing Xbox Live account or the Passport account), activation will require two Passport accounts and two valid e-mail addresses (one each for parent and child).
If you’ve changed your gamertag, you cannot play your old Xbox under your old gamertag unless you open an additional account with your old gamertag.
I’m not sure how this works, but how is a multi-kid family billed – per gamertag? Multibiliing? Activation link.
Let’s just try the “MDN Impartiality Check” here for a moment by simply swapping the names “Apple” and “Microsoft” in this story:
“For the past 18 months Microsoft has tried and failed to get a single 3GHz PowerPC working in their $3000 professional workstation. They have also been plagued with bad luck on initial product launches, with Microsoft forums teeming with complaints of iMac G5 power supply and screen failures, iPod battery life and cracked and scratched screens. What a jok Microsoft is! However, today Apple showed their design and innovation lead by launching a gaming console with *three* 3.2GHz PowerPC cores for only $400! Apple forums show a few initial teething problems, but this is to be expected with such a revolutionary step forward. Given the initial sales figures, the handle of cases represents only a small percentage, blown out of proportion by the media’s anti-Apple bias.”
Hmm. As I thought. More biased journalism from MDN. Good for a laugh as always though! Keep it up MDN!
MDN isn’t a journalism site. MDN COMPILES stories they believe Apple and Mac fans will enjoy. For fun, they add the “MDN take” which is called an “EDITORIAL”… perhaps you’ve heard of that in the newspaper? Ever read one of those?
So why is this story here? Because the majority of Apple fans HATE Microsoft. Some of us find it very funny when Gates has egg on his face, like now with this subpar “next generation” game console suffering the same fate as most things Microsoft.
The fact that people believe this site to be a true, traditional news-gathering site (with reporters out in the field, etc.) shows just how dumbed down the Internet has made people. Of course, those posting those comments probablly LIKE Microsoft, so their IQ is questionable at best.
THIS IS NOT A JOURNALISM SITE. LEARN THE G.D. F@*ING DIFFERENCE ALREADY.
It be interested to see whether the MDN staff would confirm that this site is not intended to be taken seriously. That would explain a lot. My bad.
RC
The PC industry has been stuck at around 3.8 GHz for a while now. What’s your point? Apple can’t make a 3 Ghz chip? The whole industry has been trying to get over the same hump…
It might interest you to know that, actually, Apple’s not a chip company.
Ran out of coal.
Think I’ll get my kid an X-Box for Christmas.
Let’s call it the Xbic 360, the world’s most expensive BIC lighter. Put on your fire-retardant suits kids before you, um…FIRE IT UP!!!!!
>>It might interest you to know that, actually, Apple’s not a chip company.
Neither’s Microsoft. What’s your point? I just find it ironic that Microsoft can get three 3.2GHz cores in a $400 games console, whilst Apple failed to get one 3GHz core in a $3000 workstation. Yet everyone here wants to mock MIcrosoft for a few initial teething problems on their Rev A release. Something which plagues Apple with practically *every* launch of their Rev A products.
Reality Check,
You raise a good point. We just like to jump on Microsoft as a joyous pastime. The Xbox 360 actually is very impressive and jam-packed with technology. My iMac G5 is slow, and I, for one, am wating anxiously for the day when OSX has the speed and snap of a Wintel computer without having to have 2 processors inside. Intel should solve that problem. Bottom line is that the Xbox 360 is pretty freaking amazing. I expect it will do pretty well unless it burns down the Smithsonian or something like that.
Reality Check,
Game systems are sold at a loss. Xboxes may cost $700 to produce, but manufacturers make it all back in game sales. Computers are sold with a healthy profit margin (regardless of manufacturer)
Luke – most estimates put Microsoft’s loss on the XBox 360 at around $130. Some not even that much. So, even if the XBox 360 really costs $600 to make, that’s still $2400 less than a Powermac. I don’t see your point. Microsoft have achieved way more than Apple did (in terms of putting PowerPC’s in a box) for *way* less, and yet everyone here is so anal about Apple they can’t see it. Really. This is computer hardware not a religion.
Woah! Thank u! Thank u Evgeny, The tophologist and Reality check! I am a pc user but very found of Macs and apple. I used to think there r some THINK DIFFERENT guys and that was the reason to come here.But after reading and having a lot of fun with all aggresive and pointless opinions in this site I was nearly believing in all Mac users are plain obssesed idiots. But hey u guys showed me there r some clever ones and open eyes there. So still there is some hopes…
so its got faster chips in it, but the software that works with the hardware doesnt work. thats a bargain for $400 man.
at least the apple stuff works. you get what you pay for.
maybe if microsoft were able to produce something near decent software, it would be a good product.
Hi, I just stumbled in here while looking for xbox 360 info on fires (because I work at Toys R Us and have to sell these things). I currently have a PC running Windows XP and I can not wait for the day when I can go out and buy a new MAC.
I’m not ignorant, I’m not a bigot, I don’t care who is gay and who is not, though I am anti right wing. I just wanted to say that as a PC/Microsoft user for the last few years I can honestly say these machines are inferior to MAC’s.
As for the Xbox, it was always a terrible idea (even with the first one). They are basically trying to sell you a computer to hook up to your tv. I prefer Nintendo or Playstation. Just my two cents. Thanks for reading.
OMG son those are the best graphics ever…!! that fire looks so real!! It even smells real! man those microsoft people r smart!!! omg look when i stick my hand in the fire it burns my hand off!! just like a real fire!!! OMG!! it even burns down the house!! and r u serious it even kills you if u get in the fire!! that is the best console ive ever seen!!!
I was sitting around playing fable when my stupid xbox 360 just crashed for no reason.
For those of you saying that apple could make a better system. Apple has the I-Box