“In discussing the possibility of adding a theft resistant ‘kill switch’ to future iPhone models, Apple’s government liaison has noted that the next two generations of iPhone have already been developed, and were designed before Steve Jobs’ death,” Daniel Eran Dilger reports for AppleInsider. “Seeking to stem the tide of smartphone thefts, San Francisco’s District Attorney George Gascón has met carriers and device makers, including Apple, whose iPhones account for half of the devices pilfered in the City. The depth of Apple’s product pipeline surfaced during those talks.”
I’m from the government and I’m here to help you
“According to a report by Mike Aldax of the SF Examiner, Gascón was left ‘disheartened’ by a meeting with mobile carriers, and hoped that subsequent discussions with Apple would ‘reveal a commitment toward solutions,'” Dilger reports. ” Instead, Gascón said the meeting with Apple’s government liaison Michael Foulkes was ‘very underwhelming,’ and added, ‘he did most of the talking. It was incredible. He would just go on and on, one subject to the next. It was hard to follow. It was almost like someone who’s been trained in the art of doing a lot of talking and saying nothing.'”
Dilger reports, “Foulkes discussed the research and development behind creating and deploying a ‘kill switch’ system to arrest phone theft, but ‘also said the next two generations of iPhones have already been developed,’ according the report. Gascón further commented that the next two iPhone models in the pipeline ‘preceded Tim Cook.'”
Much more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Keep this in mind, Cook bashers. Only Jony Ive and Tim Cook really know how far Jobs’ reach extends into the future.
designed on the other side? after life? must be awesome!
Who the hell is Gascón? And who cares about his interpretation of private meetings? What a media whore.
Hahaha, reminds me of when I wrote in to Tim Cook and received a phone call from one of his Customer Relations talking heads… I spent over 4 hours on the phone trying to resolve an issue I had and in the end, got absolutely nowhere. That guy just kept talking in circles, trying to deflect blame away from Apple and onto me. Needless to say, he got an ear full and I will NEVER buy another Apple product again, because of the demeaning way he spoke to me and the treatment he doled out. I will continue to use the products I have and when they die, well, that’s it for me and Apple. Too bad, really, because I have spent tens of thousands of dollars on Apple products and services since 1991.
By the way, trying to email tim cook is now no longer an option, the emails are bounced by Apple’s servers…
Whatever, Samsung plant.
That’s laughable considering I have been posting here for years and never wrote anything disparaging about Apple until AFTER this particular incident happened to me. Notice I didn’t go into detail about it, my goal was not to turn anyone away from Apple, only to reiterate that Apple’s spokespeople are usually arrogant talking heads that are so full of themselves they never let anyone get a word in otherwise. So much so that tim cook is no longer approachable in ANY meaningful way, be it via email, a phone call or otherwise. Customer service now consists of email correspondence only.
You can’t actually speak to someone about your issue, they ask you to go to the support website and fill out an automated email form, what a joke.
Somehow I picture you being one of those customers who feels entitled no matter what you’re buying or where; just because YOU bought it it must mean something. I’m tired of hearing Apple people talk about, “I’ve been buying blah blah since 1994 so that should mean something..” ACTUALLY that’s totally wrong. Apple is concerned with new customers and selling new products to new people to create halo-effects and breeding switchers. So you’re going to switch to Windows and an Android phone when your current Apple tech dies? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. One customer relations rep. to you means the company as a whole isn’t worth anything? Did you try to speak to another? What’s wrong with filling out a web form? You really expect there is a person/human available for every moron that wants to scream bloody-murder? Then ApplCare would be in India and not Austin. So what amazing story do you have that you don’t want to say so that you don’t change anyone’s mind? I bet you upgraded an OS or iPhoto and didn’t have a backup or your HD failed and didn’t have a backup, or some way your problem could have been entirely prevented by YOU but now you want to blame Apple because you didn’t do your home-work!
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Obviously your reading skills are indicative of your level of intelligence. Had you been paying attention to what I posted you would have read and then comprehended what I wrote, which was this: “Notice I didn’t go into detail about it, my goal was not to turn anyone away from Apple, only to reiterate that Apple’s spokespeople are usually arrogant talking heads that are so full of themselves they never let anyone get a word in otherwise.”
Your attempt to bait me was noticed, unfortunately, for you, I won’t be biting.
I suspect your details would be silly and you would be laughed out of town.
I’ve been using Apple products since 1979 (10 computers, 3 printers, 3 iPhones, 4 iPads and a couple of iPods. The hardware failures have been: 1 mouse on a 1984 Mac 128 and on iPhone, which failed in the first week of ownership, indicating a manufacturing defect. Both were replaced without question.
If your problem wasn’t a hardware failure, then it must have been a software disappointment. That’s where something doesn’t work as you hoped it would. I would love for AppleWorks to be resurrected for the Mac and iPad. Not going to happen, so sad for me. I wish that Maps on my iPad didn’t mis-locate businesses in some smaller towns, but that is a mapping database error, not an Apple software design flaw.
In no case would I believe my problems justified and expectation of personal service from the CEO of a major company. Get over yourself.
Your experiences with Apple’s products is not even remotely indicative as to establish any correlation with anyone else, there are plenty of people that have had less than stellar experiences than you and even some with better, so what was your point exactly?
And for clarity, my post was merely meant to reiterate that there is an obvious epidemic of arrogance at Apple, and dare I say it, with it’s elitist users that would go out of their way to attempt to discredit another person whom has not had the same experience as your’s simply because you can’t believe it is as I said.
Too bad, better get used to it.
Share some facts. Tell us why you’re so maligned that you need the personal attention of Tim Cook.
You spent FOUR HOURS on the phone with someone from Apple but YOU were not satisfied. YOU gave the guy an earful, ooh you’re so brave. You won’t use the product anymore bcause someone didn’t take your earful kindly and we’re supposed to have sympathy for you? And if you weren’t looking for sympathy why did you post this? Grow up dude…
The fact that someone from Apple’s Executive Customer Relations Department felt it was necessary to call me should be evidence enough that there was a real and serious problem that needed to be addressed. I never expected anyone to be so dense as to not even consider that possibility but again, I should have known not everyone is as smart as they think they are. The fact that they spoke with me for 4 hours should also speak volumes, I will not divulge what was said, it should be sufficient to know that that information is private and I do not owe you or anyone else any explanation as to the content of that discussion.
I made a choice to not be an Apple user, that is my choice and no one else’s. You may not like it, you may even think it a dumb decision but I personally don’t care what you or anyone else thinks of MY decisions, they belong to me.
So, go kick rocks.
Posting here for years and you haven’t registered your handle yet, thereby allowing an imposter to post as you???
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Apple took my pacifier away and now I have to suck my thumb.
A fresh and funny example of your trademark incisive, acerbic distillation of human behavior. 🙂
Let me get this straight, Jeff. You attempted to contact the CEO of Apple with a complaint and didn’t get a direct response. You did, however, receive a call from a CR representative who talked to you for over four hours and even listened to your “ear full.” You did not get what you wanted from this single Apple representative in this one particular case, so you are punishing yourself by swearing off all Apple products for life, and you seem to think that the rest of us will follow your lead?
Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds to everyone else on this forum? You are doomed to deep disappointment in every aspect of your life, because nothing is going to live up to your standards of perfection.
That is your opinion, thankfully, opinions are like elbows and assholes, everyone has them and they aren’t always useful. Your reading comprehension needs work too, my post was to demonstrate the arrogance that Apple reps have, nothing more, nothing less.
Move along
It’s not that hard to believe for me. Imagine what it really takes to get factories up and running to efficiently create products to the exacting standards Apple has. Many months, no doubt.
I would imagine that the instant Apple has something like flexible display prototypes to play with they are already designing products that will have them long before those are off-the-shelf parts.
That’s yet another reason why all of these Android whiners need to get a clue about the importance Apple plays. It’s one of very few companies that is willing to bet the farm on particular technologies and buy them in enough bulk to lower the prices for all of these other companies to put out 16 slightly different versions with commodity parts.
Touch screens would be a very big example. You could also throw in those 1.5″ disk drives that were in millions of iPods several years back that made that market possible for others to enter with their also-rans.
Can’t wait to see what’s next, whether Jobs had a hand in it or not.
Nice,You told him!
Well, I guess that rules out the larger screen format as Jobs was against it.
Don’t bet one way or the other. Steve often expressed a dislike for an idea and then turned around and released it as the next great thing. He was masterful at deflecting people away from the very research Apple was interested in.
Exactly right, and he also once said changing one’s mind was a sign of intelligence.
I pray to God the screen doesn’t get bigger!!!
Those are going to be 2 seriously outdated iPhone designs if they were locked in before Cook took over. Steve Jobs is dead, continues to be dead and has been dead for some time now.
Umm, by that logic iPhone OS development back early 2005 would’ve looked like a Blackberry or Windows Mobile.
Dead wrong. Newton OS was first – Apple would never had needed to seek Rum or Windblows for inspiration.
“Before the Newton project was canceled, it was “spun off” into an Apple wholly owned subsidiary company, Newton Inc., but was reabsorbed several months later when Apple CEO Gil Amelio was fired by the board and Steve Jobs took over as then interim CEO. Two ex-Apple Newton developers founded Pixo, the company that created the operating system for the original iPod.” — wiki
I don’t disagree with you. I think you missed my point, though.
its cool midwestmac, i think i get what you cleverly articulated… meaning Cook had nothing to do with the look, feel or functionality of iPhone; that it was directed by Jobs.
Hence without him (jobs) and the many years which it took to develop — the direction and plans are on course still to this day, and include up until the next two iPhones with Steves’ vision.
Example, plans five years ago for iPhone could have been for flexible screens. Yet, the technology was not there, however, when possible it would be done as Steve had hoped and planned.
“Steve Jobs is dead, continues to be dead and has been dead for some time now”
Depends on your definition of dead. Steve Jobs googles out at 1490 million, The Pope at 1510 million. And there was more than one Pope.
numbers based on google finds — you’re evil lol joke.
BS
a future strategy does not = developed product.
If the apple rep was so full of it, why would the DA believe his statement that the next 2 iPhones are already developed?
@MDN take…whatever…
The real story here is that D A Gascón….got Tim Cook’d…totally and right-royally Cook’d or was it Foulkes’d for three hours?
April Fools
A load of rubbish. Future products are in continual development until not long before final release. What is more likely is that development started under Steve Jobs – when they were put in the product road map!
“including Apple, whose iPhones account for half of the devices pilfered in the City”
The ground must be littered with a lot of devices stolen that weren’t iPhones when the thieves found out that they got the wrong ones. The city manager has made statements that electronic recycling would improve if the street sweepers could take the trouble to bend down and pick up the Android phones out of the gutters.
There’s a simple test to see if Mr. Governmental Affairs was telling the truth: jobs.apple.com will have a posting for a new head of Governmental Affairs in a couple of weeks.
Made in China
Designed by Apple in Heaven
Steve Jobs = Hari Seldon
Excellent Asimov reference
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