MacDailyNews Take: People have long tried to out-Apple Apple. It has yet to be accomplished.
Mortiz continues, “Instead of one brilliant thing — an application or some flash of originality — Microsoft rolled out a hodgepodge of features that seem oddly familiar to anyone who’s used an iPhone or an Android device.”
MacDailyNews Take: And the reason they seem familiar to Android settlers just might have something to do infringement upon Apple’s patented intellectual property.
Mortiz continues, “A short test drive of the HTC Surround, which lands at AT&T on Nov. 8, proved Windows 7 to be easy and pleasing. Windows 7’s identifying feature is its home screen, which has tiles instead of icons.”
MacDailyNews Take: An icon by any other name is still a icon.
Mortiz continues, “Microsoft earned style points for making an easy, attractive user interface. The quality of the transitions (animations) as you move between tasks makes you feel like they put some effort into it. Very smooth and very Apple-like, you might say. But among the elements missing to a spectacular launch of Windows 7 was a drop-dead, show stopper feature that will help convince Apple and Android fans that there’s a whole new game in town.”
MacDailyNews Take: It seems rather generous to describe people who’ve settled for Android devices because their carrier couldn’t offer them the real thing as “fans.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Microsoft could have unveiled the perfect smartphone OS, that doesn’t omit Cut-Copy-Paste or Multitasking or Tethering and that is wholly original and doesn’t infringe on other companies’ intellectual property, and they would still be nearly 4 years late to the game. It’s superfluous to the marketplace. They can try to force their way in with $500 million in marketing and, if successful, damage the other iPhone wannabes like Android, but, like all of the other also-rans, they have not even come close to equalling iOS much less accomplished the tremendous feat of leapfrogging iOS, which is what Microsoft needed to do in order to make up for being so woefully late to the game.
It doesn’t even have exchange active sync capability and reasonable security measures like device encryption, remote wipe capabilities, etc.
Business with eat the new Windows phone 07 phones up, NOT.
It doesn’t even have exchange active sync capability and reasonable security measures like device encryption, remote wipe capabilities, etc.
Business with eat the new Windows phone 07 phones up, NOT.
I like the updated UI compared to my boring IPhone4 UI which has barely changed since the original IPhone.
After another year of updates, I think Win Phone will be my next choice unless Apple decides to give it’s customers a more interesting UI than just icons.
I like the updated UI compared to my boring IPhone4 UI which has barely changed since the original IPhone.
After another year of updates, I think Win Phone will be my next choice unless Apple decides to give it’s customers a more interesting UI than just icons.
Scott Moritz, clueless as usual.
Scott Moritz, clueless as usual.
Apple hasn’t even succeeded in giving all their fans access to the phone unless they move to ATT. I like the iPhone interface and can’t wait for them to come to T-Mobile.
Apple hasn’t even succeeded in giving all their fans access to the phone unless they move to ATT. I like the iPhone interface and can’t wait for them to come to T-Mobile.
And it won’t succed in business because it doesnt have a keyboard.
And it won’t succed in business because it doesnt have a keyboard.
Microsoft’s attempts to do better in consumer electronics is about as interesting as when I fell asleep in 7th-grade Social Studies and woke up to find a little puddle of spittle on the desk.
Microsoft’s attempts to do better in consumer electronics is about as interesting as when I fell asleep in 7th-grade Social Studies and woke up to find a little puddle of spittle on the desk.
the winphomo interface is quite interesting: by having the tile metaphor swiping in two dimensions you are given the feeling of wandering around an endless bland corporate carpet. On the deserted floor of an office block in the business district of a failing city.
the winphomo interface is quite interesting: by having the tile metaphor swiping in two dimensions you are given the feeling of wandering around an endless bland corporate carpet. On the deserted floor of an office block in the business district of a failing city.
@Paul Thurrot
You’re the clueless one. You’ve forgotten how to spell your own name!
Microsoft would be better served using that five-hundred million to give away twenty-million phones with a two-year contract.
Get a free phone with every free phone!
Win Phone 7
WE GET YOU!
COMING and GOING!
@Paul Thurrot
You’re the clueless one. You’ve forgotten how to spell your own name!
Microsoft would be better served using that five-hundred million to give away twenty-million phones with a two-year contract.
Get a free phone with every free phone!
Win Phone 7
WE GET YOU!
COMING and GOING!
@RP3 – I think the default interface is great. Although the app badges are great indicators, Apple does need to do something cool with pop-up notifications.
@RP3 – I think the default interface is great. Although the app badges are great indicators, Apple does need to do something cool with pop-up notifications.
Yet another MS failure.
At this point, is anyone really surprised?
‘As long as it takes!’… *hic*
Yet another MS failure.
At this point, is anyone really surprised?
‘As long as it takes!’… *hic*
Microsoft has never come up with a “drop dead show stopper feature” in their entire existence. If it weren’t for Apple’s innovative examples, we would all still be typing endless lines of green code on a black screen and we would call it computing.
If an Apple-hating, ms toady like Moritz is disappointed with winmob7, it must truly be a catastrophe.
Microsoft has never come up with a “drop dead show stopper feature” in their entire existence. If it weren’t for Apple’s innovative examples, we would all still be typing endless lines of green code on a black screen and we would call it computing.
If an Apple-hating, ms toady like Moritz is disappointed with winmob7, it must truly be a catastrophe.
Yawn. I’ll huff and puff and blow your house down …
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hey, WP 7 will wind up doing ok in the commodity smartphone market vs. Android. Android grew fast by killing the obsolete Windows Mobile 6.x and Symbian 2, not Apple or RIM. Now both are finally back in the game with updated OS’s. and once Nokia starts using WP 7 (Elop is certain to make a deal), it will sell well around the world too.
the smartphone market is breaking up into chunks, and no single OS will ever get more than 30% of it. there is no need to standardized OS’s like there was back in the 1990’s – the web/cloud solved all that a different way.
hey, WP 7 will wind up doing ok in the commodity smartphone market vs. Android. Android grew fast by killing the obsolete Windows Mobile 6.x and Symbian 2, not Apple or RIM. Now both are finally back in the game with updated OS’s. and once Nokia starts using WP 7 (Elop is certain to make a deal), it will sell well around the world too.
the smartphone market is breaking up into chunks, and no single OS will ever get more than 30% of it. there is no need to standardized OS’s like there was back in the 1990’s – the web/cloud solved all that a different way.
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That’s the problem with Microsoft. Their products are all about superficial gloss, and people only buy their stuff because of all the marketing.
On the other hand Apple just makes good solid products that don’t get caught up in trying to be flashy. Their ads focus on how Apple products help people instead of being all design-y and clever.
The shoe is finally on the other foot : )
That’s the problem with Microsoft. Their products are all about superficial gloss, and people only buy their stuff because of all the marketing.
On the other hand Apple just makes good solid products that don’t get caught up in trying to be flashy. Their ads focus on how Apple products help people instead of being all design-y and clever.
The shoe is finally on the other foot : )
Now Epson finally has a competitor with today’s new indistinguishable WinPhone product line. Let’s see, the 5250, the P-275, the R-100,…___you fill in the blank with a number and a letter.
But still, some Americans are smart enough to be dumb enough to choose from the one of many to choose from…gonna give the Zune a huge run for its money in numbers sold.
Now Epson finally has a competitor with today’s new indistinguishable WinPhone product line. Let’s see, the 5250, the P-275, the R-100,…___you fill in the blank with a number and a letter.
But still, some Americans are smart enough to be dumb enough to choose from the one of many to choose from…gonna give the Zune a huge run for its money in numbers sold.
And come November 8 there will be exactly how many Windows 7 phone apps available to download?
And come November 8 there will be exactly how many Windows 7 phone apps available to download?
“An icon by any other name is still a icon.”
Widgets/Gadgets: completely different!
Spotlight/Searchlight: completely different!
Lol
“An icon by any other name is still a icon.”
Widgets/Gadgets: completely different!
Spotlight/Searchlight: completely different!
Lol
With all that video playing in the foreground/ background, the battery life will be poor at best.
With all that video playing in the foreground/ background, the battery life will be poor at best.
I think Microsoft is following the trajectory of IBM. Eventually they will get some creative person to come up with some really creative stuff, but it will be too little too late, and they won’t be able to overcome their stodgy public image. Or maybe they won’t have a public image, since their visibility is sinking.
The best thing Microsoft can do at this point is focus on their strengths in the enterprise, and shed the consumer market, for which they have no talent whatsoever.
Real competition for Apple will come, but not from Microsoft. It will come from companies that don’t exist yet. Eventually someone other than Apple will come up with good ideas, but we’ll have to wait a bit. Probably beyond my lifetime!
I think Microsoft is following the trajectory of IBM. Eventually they will get some creative person to come up with some really creative stuff, but it will be too little too late, and they won’t be able to overcome their stodgy public image. Or maybe they won’t have a public image, since their visibility is sinking.
The best thing Microsoft can do at this point is focus on their strengths in the enterprise, and shed the consumer market, for which they have no talent whatsoever.
Real competition for Apple will come, but not from Microsoft. It will come from companies that don’t exist yet. Eventually someone other than Apple will come up with good ideas, but we’ll have to wait a bit. Probably beyond my lifetime!
@DavidEGo
I know what a foreground is, and I know what a background is, but I can’t for the life of me figure out what a foregroundbackground would look like. I guess I’ll have to make sure I get to Best Buy between the introduction and the withdrawal of the Windows phones so I can see what a foregroundbackground looks like.
Imagine, if I get the flu that week, I won’t get to see them at all.
Interesting innovation, whatever it is.
@DavidEGo
I know what a foreground is, and I know what a background is, but I can’t for the life of me figure out what a foregroundbackground would look like. I guess I’ll have to make sure I get to Best Buy between the introduction and the withdrawal of the Windows phones so I can see what a foregroundbackground looks like.
Imagine, if I get the flu that week, I won’t get to see them at all.
Interesting innovation, whatever it is.
Those screens look like Fisher Price designed them.. I would never pull that out in a business meeting..
Those screens look like Fisher Price designed them.. I would never pull that out in a business meeting..
@harvey
Did you overlook the forward slash separating the two focal planes in David’s comment?
I thought you did. Don’t you feel dumb, smartass.
@harvey
Did you overlook the forward slash separating the two focal planes in David’s comment?
I thought you did. Don’t you feel dumb, smartass.
I’m gleefully waiting for the next mad race to the bottom with win mob manufactuers scrambling to cut the most corners to produce the cheapest phone on the block. Win mob users will soon be tripping the light plastastic just like in the good ol’ netbook days.
I’m gleefully waiting for the next mad race to the bottom with win mob manufactuers scrambling to cut the most corners to produce the cheapest phone on the block. Win mob users will soon be tripping the light plastastic just like in the good ol’ netbook days.
Is it me or is the screen too small… the titles seem to be get cropped?
Is it me or is the screen too small… the titles seem to be get cropped?
@ mmm
That is their “design” – I know it is pretty ugly – only about a decade behind..
@ mmm
That is their “design” – I know it is pretty ugly – only about a decade behind..
Windows Phone 7: When having just a phucked up computer isn’t enough.
Windows Phone 7: When having just a phucked up computer isn’t enough.
@disposableidentity
“That’s the problem with Microsoft. Their products are all about superficial gloss, and people only buy their stuff because of all the marketing.”
I don’t think so. Most people buy their stuff because it is included in their cheap-as-possible netbook, desktop or phone. They don’t choose Windows, they choose the cheapest box in the shop.
Office is a bit different: everybody hates Word, but is forced to use it, because it’s the standard.
I think Microsoft would just do the same without marketing – that shows you how bad their marketing is.
@disposableidentity
“That’s the problem with Microsoft. Their products are all about superficial gloss, and people only buy their stuff because of all the marketing.”
I don’t think so. Most people buy their stuff because it is included in their cheap-as-possible netbook, desktop or phone. They don’t choose Windows, they choose the cheapest box in the shop.
Office is a bit different: everybody hates Word, but is forced to use it, because it’s the standard.
I think Microsoft would just do the same without marketing – that shows you how bad their marketing is.
@MDN you skate a dangerous line, accusing google of patent infringing apple when this has not been proved. Perhaps google should sue you.
@MDN you skate a dangerous line, accusing google of patent infringing apple when this has not been proved. Perhaps google should sue you.
Windows Phone 7: There’s a nap for that.
Windows Phone 7: There’s a nap for that.
Comment from: Brulek “@MDN you skate a dangerous line, accusing google of patent infringing apple when this has not been proved. Perhaps google should sue you.”
Brulek Your a Delusional wannabe, Get a education or just stay off the internet you idiot.
Why the Hell does ever small minded idiot want to sue someone when they don’t get they’re way or their favorite company isn’t exactly smelling like the rose they had thought they where.
Yea and i am talking about Googles B.S. also.
Brulek, Allot of us see through Google and what they are doing, so keep your white wash cover party for the automatons that have been sold by the B.S of Free for everyone.
Nothings Free Old Boy, Nothing.
Dont Like It, So Sue Me
Comment from: Brulek “@MDN you skate a dangerous line, accusing google of patent infringing apple when this has not been proved. Perhaps google should sue you.”
Brulek Your a Delusional wannabe, Get a education or just stay off the internet you idiot.
Why the Hell does ever small minded idiot want to sue someone when they don’t get they’re way or their favorite company isn’t exactly smelling like the rose they had thought they where.
Yea and i am talking about Googles B.S. also.
Brulek, Allot of us see through Google and what they are doing, so keep your white wash cover party for the automatons that have been sold by the B.S of Free for everyone.
Nothings Free Old Boy, Nothing.
Dont Like It, So Sue Me
@ W.T.Effyall
Good one!
@ W.T.Effyall
Good one!
Let’s be clear. There was no “hodgepodge of features” or even any real smartphones until the iPhone came along. The only thing that seems familiar to me is everyone repeating the same “copy Apple” dance that they started many years ago and kicked into high gear in the late 1990s. Remember when the CRT iMac started the bright colors fad?
I have no doubt that many companies are infringing upon Apple’s patent portfolio. It is also possible that Apple is infringing upon a few patents, and a few of them might even be valid patents.
Let’s be clear. There was no “hodgepodge of features” or even any real smartphones until the iPhone came along. The only thing that seems familiar to me is everyone repeating the same “copy Apple” dance that they started many years ago and kicked into high gear in the late 1990s. Remember when the CRT iMac started the bright colors fad?
I have no doubt that many companies are infringing upon Apple’s patent portfolio. It is also possible that Apple is infringing upon a few patents, and a few of them might even be valid patents.
MS will do/spend whatever it takes to make Windows Phone 7 viable. They have no choice.
MS will do/spend whatever it takes to make Windows Phone 7 viable. They have no choice.
Windows Phone 7: “Designed to get you IN and OUT and back to life.”
The Cure:
Masters and Johnson Technique
Windows Phone 7: “Designed to get you IN and OUT and back to life.”
The Cure:
Masters and Johnson Technique
” Iphone killer # 778 ”
Just like how Zune was gonna topple iPod !!
What an UGLY device …… LOL !!!!!
” Iphone killer # 778 ”
Just like how Zune was gonna topple iPod !!
What an UGLY device …… LOL !!!!!
What makes anyone think this will go great. Didnt the KIN phones look very simmelar to this in the UI? also lets see it looks allot like zune and the ZUNE HD has not caught on and still has only 48 apps after a year.
Also found this
According to Microsoft:
“Both KIN and Windows Phone 7 share common OS components, software and services. We will seek to align around a single platform for both products as well as consistent hardware specifications.”
Microsoft said that the underlying fundamentals of Kin and Windows Phone 7 will be held together by similar core technologies. Both Kin and Windows Phone 7 run the same Silverlight platform.
HMM so we have a failed product and a product that has not really gone anywhere since its inception over a year ago and now they are basing this entire new mobile lineup on the same interface.
Yea keep at it MS just keep wasting money
What makes anyone think this will go great. Didnt the KIN phones look very simmelar to this in the UI? also lets see it looks allot like zune and the ZUNE HD has not caught on and still has only 48 apps after a year.
Also found this
According to Microsoft:
“Both KIN and Windows Phone 7 share common OS components, software and services. We will seek to align around a single platform for both products as well as consistent hardware specifications.”
Microsoft said that the underlying fundamentals of Kin and Windows Phone 7 will be held together by similar core technologies. Both Kin and Windows Phone 7 run the same Silverlight platform.
HMM so we have a failed product and a product that has not really gone anywhere since its inception over a year ago and now they are basing this entire new mobile lineup on the same interface.
Yea keep at it MS just keep wasting money
Android… will go down soon too… In any case, i am looking at VZ call options or T (AT&T) option puts… puts seem to be easier knowing that AT&T losing the iPhone is an eventuality and another market bomb must be on the way. But a far out VZ call is also possible.
Android… will go down soon too… In any case, i am looking at VZ call options or T (AT&T) option puts… puts seem to be easier knowing that AT&T losing the iPhone is an eventuality and another market bomb must be on the way. But a far out VZ call is also possible.
Microsoft… Only the 3 Stooges make my sides ache more!
Microsoft… Only the 3 Stooges make my sides ache more!