“Officers from the San Mateo County Sheriff’s Office kicked in a journalist’s doors and confiscated computers,” Carr reports. “Apple didn’t do the kicking, but it apparently filed a complaint — not seeking the return of their phone, which they had already retrieved, but information.”
MacDailyNews Take: Apparently, Apple’s engineer is not allowed to report to police that his phone was stolen and the authorities are not allowed to investigate when a stolen prototype of product in which at least tens of millions of dollars are invested is purchased by a gadget blog for five grand, taken apart, photographed from all angles and plastered all over their site. This doesn’t help Apple’s competitors at all, no industrial espionage or any other laws apply, and it’s all just harmless prank.
Carr continues babbling in print, “Perhaps the law is on the side of Apple and that of the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team, California’s high-tech crimes task force, which served the search warrant (Apple is represented on the public agency’s board)… Regardless of how the law shakes out, the optics are horrible for Apple. Anybody with a kilobyte of common sense could have told Steve Jobs that the five minutes of pleasure that came from making a criminal complaint against journalists would be followed by much misery.”
“The iPad, a gorgeous device for displaying content, has become something of a metaphor for the hermetic kingdom of Apple,” Carr reports. “A seamless device that can’t be opened, it has no apertures for input and is animated mostly by purchases from Apple.”
MacDailyNews Take: As if the Dock connector port, Wi-Fi and/or 3G, and Bluetooth don’t exist. Dummy wants a floppy slot.
Carr continues, “Then again, it will take you anywhere on the Web, unless it involves the use of Adobe’s Flash software, which Mr. Jobs has found wanting. The churlishness about Flash again goes to the issue of control, of wanting to have dominion over all aspects of the customer experience.”
MacDailyNews Take: You really shouldn’t write about a subject, if you don’t understand it well. Of course, that rarely stops The New York Times. Flash is banned from iPhone OS devices for several reasons, none of which are churlish:
• Apple believes that all standards pertaining to the web should be open; not closed, 100% proprietary products like Adobe’s Flash
• Apple wants users to experience reliability, security and performance; none of which Adobe’s Flash can offer.
• Apple’s products offer long battery life; Adobe’s Flash is a battery hog (before it maxes out your CPU(s) and fan(s) and then crashes)
• Flash was designed for PCs using mice, not for touch screens using fingers; there is no “hover” on an iPhone or iPad
• The type of “write once, deploy everywhere” software that lazy Adobe wants to help developers produce results in lowest common denominator apps that fail to take advantage of individual platforms’ strengths.
Carr continues, “More broadly, Apple’s behavior and choices in the Gizmodo affair threaten to interrupt the séance between the company and an adoring press, who have looked past all the frantic secrecy and reverently stared in wonder at what was eventually revealed behind the curtain. The media’s crush on Apple has always been an unrequited love affair.”
MacDailyNews Take: Seriously? Carr needs to do some research. He can start by looking up the meaning of the word “séance” and then by moving on to Steve Jobs’ “Thoughts on Flash” open letter, before contemplating how a million iPads sold in the first 28 days equates to “horrible optics for Apple.”
Full nonsense – Think Before You Click™ – here.
MacDailyNews Take: With this kind of mind-numbing dreck splashed across their fishwrap, it’s no wonder that The New York Times’ circulation plummeted 8.5% in the last year alone.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Readers “JES42,” “TowerTone,” “jmmx,” “Brian A.,” and “Citymark” for the heads up.]
Oh brother… well at least I have learnt a new word…
churlish |ˈ ch ərli sh |
adjective
rude in a mean-spirited and surly way : it seems churlish to complain.
How can I get a job like that? I’d love to blubber on about topics I don’t understand and get paid to do it.
just truly sad…
There ARE some fine writers who work for the New York Times and political leanings aside (and the flood of haters will no doubt populate this thread)…
This is just truly BAD reporting. It’s not even journalism really. It’s just hit whoring disguised as something insightful.
Having been in journalism for over 40 years..I’d fire this guy on the spot for a piece like this
@Warren,
Hey, I did the same Spotlight search. Never touch a dictionary any more.
god I love the way you rationally & completely tear apart this guys obviously uninformed tirade.
I like the word, “churlish”.
From now on, I’m going to be more churlish.
Carr would get better results with a ouji board…
Pseudo reporters, calling themselves “journalists” to get perks are hearing the sound of footsteps with this event. Many blog posters like Chen, Lam and Diaz of Gizmodo are no more reporters than I am. And their boss said as much. It seems David Carr has something to fear as well.
El Guapo and PR have it right. I can’t believe there isn’t need for fact-checking in the media. Goes to show you can’t trust the media.
These people who are anti-Apple are not thinking… Apple makes most of its profit from selling you the hardware. Adobe and Google have a lot more motivation to have an “issue of control,” when it comes to software, web content, and user data. They have to make their profit somehow. Apple’s motivation is to create the best user experience possible, to sell more hardware.
It must kill people like David Carr, as Apple succeeds with iPods, iPhones, and now iPads. Even the Mac business is doing better than ever. It’s obvious that actual customers could not care less about such irrelevant and inaccurate ramblings.
“The media’s crush on Apple has ALWAYS been an unrequited love affair”
Perhaps Carr should also look at the past use of the word “beleaguered.”
ANother opinion/editorial piece accedentally making it into the NEWS section of the newspaper. Geez.
@informed
As Mark Twain once said, better to keep your mouth closed and have people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
=:~)
@ all mac fan boys.
i am as much a mac lover as the next one but this ny times writer does touch a few good points.. soo0000 what it was photographed.. soooooooo! good publicity, apple has most patents anyways… what can the competitors steal?? well they can go out and buy one themselves open it up and copy it. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? yes police went a bit overboard! yes apple is right to be pissed! yes gizmorons should have gave it back and struck maybe an exclusive first look or something around those lines! yes the guy who sold it should have gotten his a$$ kick!$
but in the end we all will still buy it, we all still support apple.
SOOOO MOVE ON. apple JOBS should openly shun gizmorons for their part in this.and all will follow!!
now lets move on and live!
and if anyone does not like my comments , sorry but thats my .02 cents!
ps
you know im right!
good day
@ Informed–
Apparently, you’re not as informed as you believe yourself to be.
1. If this is what they publish, then “fish wrap” may very well be a fair description.
2. Steve Jack has never hid his identity. He may have others working with him (I’m uncertain), but he is the name behind MDN.
Actually I pity the fish.
@Warren. I left school at 15 years old in England and I had already learned what ‘churlish’ means. I’ll bet my grandson who is in college doesn’t know. Then again he attended school in California. What a joke.
– David Carr’s column is not a news section; it’s a column. Most of MDN readers, not having read many newspapers, probably don’t know what that means.
– MDN doesn’t seem to mind quoting the NYT when it’s David Pogue’s column.
While I agree with MDN’s “takes” as far as this article is concerned, I also think that Apple needs to stay as far away from the Gizmodo investigation and possible prosecution as possible. The company is the 800 pound gorilla in tech now and is beginning to show some of the control freak qualities that might be tolerable in a small company but create animosity toward a large one, presumably because they give the impression of bullying. While there are very good arguments for Apple’s prudishness, its unwillingness to allow rejected apps to access the iPhone/iPad platform from outside iTunes, and its insistence on restricting apps created with third party development tools like Flash, Apple needs to apply it’s hegemony as gently as possible. Impressions count.
MND: you should add one more reason for not having Flash on Apple mobile devices: IT DOESN’T EXIST.
@mac user since 80’s
So, Apple had a prototype device stolen – cuz that’s what you call it after someone knowingly takes your stuff and sells it to someone else, you know ‘fences’ it and all – and got the police involved.
The moron who took the phone could have very, very easily returned it to Apple, if he’d been honest. But he wasn’t.
So Apple got the law involved. Which is entirely within their rights.
How does that make them churlish?
Funny thing about the law and the left… they mix as well as, well, oil and water! That is unless it suits them. Otherwise, damn the law! Not change the law…, Definitely not enforce the law…, but just ignore the laws that you don’t like! Kind of like that congressman that doesn’t care about the Constitution…
Would have loved to have an open mic in that SUV… eeek, an SUV! Aren’t they the gas hog, evil, environmentally polluting, overkill waste of a vehicle??? Hypocrisy abounds!
The media is completely clueless. How does it become Apple’s fault that some guy steals their prototype and Gizmodo buys stolen property. Sorry, but 99.99% of the world isn’t geek and they could careless if the journalist and Gizmodo gets charged with breaking the law.
I expect nothing better from the New York Slimes, as long as its left wing propaganda, true or fiction, doesn’t matter.
Only retards read that rag.
“The media’s crush on Apple has always been an unrequited love affair.”…… what universe has he been living in?
@mac user since 80’s
Engadget is the same group of guys that put a bounty on Apple’s iPad before its introduction. These guys are NOT engaging in harmless activities. They are actively encouraging industrial espionage and the breaking of NODs. Apple could not, in the highly competitive technology markets they serve, allow this blatant act go uninvestigated. What is mind numbing to me is how anyone can side with these scumbags hiding behind the guise of journalism to actively target and damage a business conducting itself in an entirely legal manner. We praise journalist that expose nefarious doings of bad companies, but when did it become okay to harass the activities of shining examples of what we’d like businesses to be like. I hope they throw the book at these childish, irresponsible guys at Engadget. Frankly, it would be good lesson for other journalist out there that stolen secrets that are not evidence of lawbreaking are not fair game for public disclosure.
@botoncandy,
i never called apple churlish.!!!
of course they are in their rights to make police report, i would.
im talking about MDN and others that are taking this to a whole new level.
yes thief was wrong
yes gizmorons were wrong
yes police went abit over board ( i was robbed at gunpoint, at my business for over 5thousand) i described criminals, handed over camera footage (this was about 3 years ago) and nothing…..
so let me see, robbery at gun point, could have been killed, hard earned money taken had crystal clear images of perps, yet no doors broken down etc etc.
hmmmmmm so a gadget has more importance than a life or livelyhood???
like i said, nothing tooooo bad happened! no espionage no stealing of ADVANCED technology.lol
punish those idiots and GET ON WITH LIFE sheeeesh!
I would love to see that as a defense in a court room. You my friend are a douche.
I would love to see that as a defense in a court room. You my friend are a douche.
I would love to see that as a defense in a court room. You my friend are a douche.
I would love to see that as a defense in a court room. You my friend are a douche.
I would love to see that as a defense in a court room. You my friend are a douche.
I would love to see that as a defense in a court room. You my friend are a douche.
@mac user since ’80s The police didn’t enforce the laws when you got robbed. You see that’s wrong. Laws should be enforced. Else, why have laws?
I thought David Carr was a pretty intelligent writer… until this piece on Gizmodogate. MDN’s take on it is right on the mark, and I was also pretty stupefied when I read it, it really was an awful piece of journalism. I was surprised it came from the NY Times, which otherwise seems to take pride in intelligent journalism. Carr’s piece could have come from a Fox News report, it was so bad!
Looks like somebody got a word a day calendar for Christmas.
Hey loser using the word “churlish” is churlish. Talk about an elitist snob. I see the office banter going something like this. “I say old chap I think I shall write a headline using a word 95% of the public has never heard”. “then later after tea we can go down to the news stand and have a golly good laugh at all those simpletons trying to figure out what it means.”
I got another new word for you ^*#@*&#
It’s the New York Times. You can’t expect anything except babbling inconsistencies, nonsense, and out and out lies.
I say repeal the Shield Law or tighten it up. There are way to many criminals, I mean journalists, that think they can write anything they want including lies to influence a stocks price, or to commit a crime such as in this case that is no less criminal than corporate espionage with no fear of retribution. Jason Chen and gizmo need to be held accountable and I hope Steve holds their feet to the fire.
Attacks on the NYT: as predictable (and boring) as the ones on Fox News.
I stated Engadget in my rant above. Of course I meant Gizmodo. My apologies to Engadget. Senior moment.
MDN-Well said. Keep up the good work.
I think the Lost 4G news has been so blown out proportion by the press…and by Apple. Get a grip folks! Until the phone is actually released, it means nothing. If the 4G does feature upgrades like what HTC is releasing through other carriers, Apple will have more to worry about than a lot prototype.
listen, there was a law broken, perhaps several. just because Apple is a multi-bollion dollar mega-corp doesn’t mean they aren’t protected by basic laws.
I’m as left as they come but, considering the circumstances, kicking the door down is not a big effing deal. they didn’t get beaten. they didn’t get gassed or tortured. what happens when you buy stolen merchandise, dissect and destroy it then post that fact on the web in full colour? I for one would expect buying a new fuc*ing door would be in my very near future… cost of doing business.
and for all you f*cking senseless idiots (sorry been having a baaaad day, don’t ask): all news and media outlets are full of crap —that’s what pays the bills. if there’s anything that sells advertising, it’s lies, bias, drama and sensationalism.
AP to Fox to MSNBC to CNN to the LAT to THE ENQUIRER to the NYT… pick your poison, they’re all the same.
…just my 99¢
That right there is a mature response in an argument.
– With this kind of mind-numbing dreck splashed across their fishwrap, it’s no wonder that The New York Times’ circulation plummeted 8.5% in the last year alone. –
That kind of petty comment is worthy of Bill O’Reilly
People who attack the NY Times in general terms rather than one author’s piece are usually biased conservatives.
Cut the political crap- this was a terrible article by a jerk of a writer- citing the NY Times circulation drop as if their “liberal bias” er… Mac ignorance is the reason doesn’t explain what’s happening to other newspapers and the publishing industry as a whole.
Let’s not generalize- or go off-topic again. This website is becoming as big a joke as any other politically biased venue (crap in, crap out)- let’s stick to the facts, and the truth. Otherwise, we’re all Mac “Fan Boys” instead of astute observers and credible people who have a clue about technology. To push a political agenda on this website is to divide, distract, and even turn off its readership. I for one am not interested in reading a goddamn thing about politics here! There are other places for that on the internet.
And I won’t.
If you want to know the truth of how serious this issue is, take a read of the ‘Industrial Espionage Act of 1996’. Gawker, Gismodo, and all involved in the stolen iPhone have a lot to worry about.
Fishwrap!!!!
Best thing MDN does is attack leftist media such as NYT.
None are safe – not even the Old Gray Lady aka “the nation’s newspaper” from MDN’s vitriol if anything negative is said about Steve or the COS (Cult of Steve).
Go get ’em MDN!
(Never mind that Steve has a love affair with the NYT – just look at almost any of his keynotes and you will find the Times on the face of every gadget he demonstrates.)
First, why doe some journalists insist on writing with words that 95% of their readers need a dictionary to understand? Oh yeah, they didn’t have much to do since content had dropped in newspapers, so they were reading the thesaurus.
Second, Apple has never asked to be in a seance with the press. I doubt very much that Apple cares to connect to the dead; they usually don’t have much technical insight to future products, and the Lisa and Pippin are better off not being contacted at this point.
Finally, Apple “threatening” a rumor/blog/Mac news site is nothing new, and Jobs certainly won’t lose sleep over any backflash from the Gizmodo incident. Apple (and its employee) did what is allowed under the law. And so long as Apple continues to deliver fantastic products at its events, the press will continue to cover them and yes, even drool on them.
The press will also turn quickly should Apple promise something and fail to deliver. After all, negative news is much more popular (at least with journalists and editors) than happy, successful news.
This forum has degenerated significantly. But we can ignore the trolls and other irritants and attempt to keep it focused on the more technical topics. We need to remain realistic in our advocacy of Apple products, and recognize that nothing is perfect. Apple makes mistakes, too, and our vigilance will help to correct those mistakes and keep Apple on the right path. But, occasionally, Apple is right about what we need versus what we believe that we want.
Being called a “fanboy” doesn’t bother me for two reasons. First, I don’t take any stock in idiots. You speak with a forked tongue and I do not hear your words. (points to the first person who pegs the TV show that I attempted to quote). Second, the “fanboy” appellation means that you recognize that I actually care about my computer platform of choice.
Most of MDN’s takes are pretty good. I have cautioned MDN against the repetitive Mac elitist commentary, but to no effect.
In picking apart his minutia, you miss his larger point, and he does have a point. Apple’s recent actions, and more importantly how they’re perceived in the press, may impact their reporting.
While some may argue Giz was investigated for being a party to a crime, journalists will feel sucker punched by a colleague’s door being broken down, and respond with punches of their own.
@KingMel
“I actually care about my computer…”
How much longer do you think you will have one of these since Steve has announced that Apple is now a “mobile device company”?
And, your wrong about MDN being elitist – they are leading a cult, saying they are elitist is just too much of an understatement.
@mac user since 80’s
“…lol punish those idiots and GET ON WITH LIFE sheeeesh!”
Well, on *this* we are in complete agreement.
Sorry to hear about you getting robbed. That really sucks. I also have to agree that we have our priorities really screwed up when $ and big biz espionage is so much more important than people’s actual lives.
I don’t know if Apple is being churlish or not but when they convict the thief I hope they send him to gaol.
These Mac Take’s seem rather defensive to the extreme.
@El Guapo
@Warren,
“Hey, I did the same Spotlight search. Never touch a dictionary any more.”
Just left click on the word and bring up the definition in dictionary (on a Mac of course).
@mac user since 80’s
” soo0000 what it was photographed.. soooooooo! good publicity, apple has most patents anyways… what can the competitors steal??”
Apple has a right to protect the design and components until they decide to release it. You seem totally unaware of the fact that most of Apple’s competitors rush to copy their designs. By keeping the design secret Apple delays the inevitable copiers until the actual release. As a business person that shouldn’t be too hard to grasp. Patents do provide protection after protracted legal proceedings.
“well they can go out and buy one themselves open it up and copy it. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?”
See above answer. The difference should be obvious.
“yes police went a bit overboard!”
No! They had a warrant and a right to enter the premises based upon probable cause.
“yes apple is right to be pissed!” Yes!
“yes gizmorons should have gave it back and struck maybe an exclusive first look or something around those lines!”
No! They should have either refused the deal and informed Apple of the location of the phone or turned it over to Apple themselves, without photographing it or taking it apart.
” yes the guy who sold it should have gotten his a$$ kick!$ “
Yes! The police entered the premises to collect evidence relative to the criminal activity and the ass kicking that would be warranted after a conviction.
“but in the end we all will still buy it, we all still support apple. SOOOO MOVE ON.”
This has little to do with anything. What does move on mean in this situation. We should move on to the criminal proceedings. If the press writes about it people will respond.
“apple JOBS should openly shun gizmorons for their part in this.and all will follow!!” Yes.
“now lets move on and live!”
I see you haven’t moved on.
“and if anyone does not like my comments , sorry but thats my .02 cents!”
.02 cents is an optimistically high value.
“you know im right!”
No I don’t.
#Now, now…
“Funny thing about the law and the left… they mix as well as, well, oil and water! That is unless it suits them. Otherwise, damn the law! Not change the law…, Definitely not enforce the law…, but just ignore the laws that you don’t like! Kind of like that congressman that doesn’t care about the Constitution…”
Which law and which specific people are you referring to.
I say throw the book at Giz and Chen.
Over generalize much?
You don’t think there would be examples of righties ignoring the law?
You people don’t even want to accept the result of a lawful presidential election.
“SUV! Aren’t they the gas hog, evil, environmentally polluting, overkill waste of a vehicle???”
Yes!
@Spark
I agree with your sentiments, but I think you meant Gizmodo.
@ShaverZBT
You are perpetuating the discussion you want ended.
@Spark
I see you realized it was Gizmodo.
Maybe it was a misspelling and the author meant to say “…Apple’s churro side”. Mmm… churros.
I get tired of this kind of lying journalism. I wrote an email to Carr, as follows:
I have to say I am deeply suspicious of your motives in writing this article. Is it true – the rumour that you are on Adobe’s grey payroll? Based on such bias and ability to ignore obvious facts, it certainly looks that way. Is that so? Do tell. I’m sure the NYT won’t mind. It’s standards are certainly slipping when its editor is so comatose at the wheel as to allow such execrable lies to pass through his approval screen.
Your article is so full of technical errors about the iPad and more; so blatantly anti-Apple when you criticise it for being concerned about the security of its still secret IP, and so sympathetic to thieves of actual real property, thieves of IP. Indeed, you seem positively keen to condone/encourage free trade in sensitive IP – to endorse piracy in effect.
I hope one day you have a world-shattering news scoop; one that could elevate you into (any kind of) significance and recognition. I am talking about a truly sensational story you have been working on for years and have blood, sweat and tears invested in. Then I hope you lose the folder containing your developing story and all your research notes. I mean EVERYTHING you had on that story in one folder. Finally, I would like to see an article written by you, applauding the thief who stole your IP, the blogger who bought the right to look at your ‘scoop of a lifetime’ and then who published it for all to see as if it were their story to tell….. not yours. I would really like to see you write that story Mr. Carr, because you are so full of shit, you would act in every way that is diametrically opposite to what you say in your NYT article. If the wrong had been done to you, you would want to see the perpetrators, caught killed and then tortured for months thereafter.
Fool of a Carr!
Long live the NYT, brought to an early demise through being rendered terminally irrelevant by putting NEWS reporting into the hands of lying journo-whores.
Well, of course, the ‘journalists’ are closing ranks. God forbid some Writer may be held responsible for unlawful actions! We Writers are the Fourth Column of the Constitution! Woe to anybody who tries to make a Writer comply with the law. We Writers are allowed conduct for which We crucify politicians and common folks. We want Our intellectual property protected by copyright law, but We are, of course, allowed to violate the IP of others, always in the interest of the public, as defined (devined?) by Us.
My advice, Mr. Carr, if you want immunity, go get yourself elected to the Congress or some state assembly. Try to serve as consul for some country south of the border. Running your mouth in a blog does not cut it.
NYT = FUD. How could we expect anything else?
Mr. Carr,
I take issue with some of your statements regarding the apparent theft of Apple’s prototype iPhone.
You wrote:
Officers from the San Mateo County Sheriff’s Office kicked in a journalist’s doors and confiscated computers. Apple didn’t do the kicking, but it apparently filed a complaint….
Note that filing a complaint against ANYONE for receiving stolen property – especially when it’s a highly secret industrial prototype that has been dissected – is not something that is typically regarded as “churlish”.
According to a report from Wired, at some point people identifying themselves as representatives of Apple visited the home of the man apparently trying to peddle the phone…
This isn’t journalism, this is an editorial statement. First: Wired is hardly known for their unbiased journalism regarding Apple – recall the dust-up over misattributed / fabricated quotations for the story: “Why the Japanese Hate the iPhone” which has found new popularity since the iPhone recently became the best selling smartphone in Japan.
But let’s assume that Wired’s story is true. A highly secret industrial prototype has gone missing. It has a tracking beacon inside. That beacon points to a certain address. A couple of people from corporate security are dispatched to that address and ask after the device. When they are told to go away, they do so. That really doesn’t seem to fit my definition of “churlish”.
Perhaps the law is on the side of Apple and that of the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team, California’s high-tech crimes task force, which served the search warrant (Apple is represented on the public agency’s board).
“Perhaps”? The theft of an industrial prototype of a secret next-generation electronic device, previous generations of which have sold in the tens of millions of copies? You think that maybe, there might possibly be some reason for California’s high-tech crimes task force to get involved? I would only care who sat on the board of that agency if they DIDN’T investigate, because I’d be concerned about them not doing their job.
Perhaps Gizmodo was involved in the felony theft of property when it paid $5,000 and published photos and videos of the device.
“Perhaps”, again? Paying $5,000 for a device that they definitely believed (according to their own writing) to belong to Apple Computer, and not to the guy who was selling it to them? I must say that if I’m ever arrested for theft, I want YOU on my jury.
Perhaps Jason Chen, the Gizmodo blogger who lost four computers and two servers to the police last week, is not protected by the California shield law…
To me, this “perhaps” is the most reasonable you’ve got. However, I still view it as an absolute no-brain fact. Follow the opposite train of thought to its logical conclusion: If I have a blog and I write about the things that I pay people to steal on my behalf, I’m protected by journalism shield laws – as long as I give back the stolen artifact upon the presentation of a written request. That’s the result if you side with Gizmodo on this.
But those are a lot of assumptions, and regardless of how the law shakes out, the optics are horrible for Apple.
The “optics” are horrible only if you want to look through some bizarre lens that makes the victim of theft and industrial espionage into the villain. We’re talking about a product that sells tens of millions of copies at an average selling price of around $600. Do the math. Every ten million units equates to six billion dollars. That’s “billion”, with a “B”. Apple sold that many iPhones in JUST THE LAST FISCAL QUARTER. This isn’t some schoolkid’s prank; It’s big business. You think that Apple should somehow smile, shrug its shoulders, and say: “oh, those pesky kids…” like on a Leave it to Beaver episode?
The iPhone “finder” now admits to making a mistake. He made several. He took something that didn’t belong to him. He didn’t report it to the bar owner. He didn’t try to contact the owner of the phone. He didn’t return the product when the nice people from Apple knocked at his door and asked for it back.
Instead, he shopped it around until he found somebody that would pay him pretty well for what they knew to be illicitly obtained merchandise. Perhaps, just maybe, both parties should be held accountable for their actions?
If you still don’t see past the list of “perhaps” statements you’ve conjured up above, then I am sad for the future of journalism.
@mac user since 80’s,
So is that your two cents, or has inflation really dropped it to .02 cents?
Let’s say a New York Times writer had been working on a major expose for six months. He accidentally left the manuscript in a restaurant. The Post “acquired” it and published. I can imagine that the NYT would be mighty “churlish” in defending its intellectual property.
You people bitching about The New York Times ‘nonsense’ over GizmodoGate are completely missing the point of the article.
The New York Times is striving for fair and balanced coverage and Microsoft/PC ad income. They can’t go on praising Apple products and dissin’ Microsoft/PC products and still expect ad income from the Microsoft/PC crowd.
This hit piece order came from on high with an assist from the bean counters. The talking points from Redmond didn’t hurt any either.
Can we put what happened here in terms a reporter can understand.
So you’ve been working under cover for 6 months on a story that is going to make your career, you have this nearly completed story in hand on you way home the day before you are to present this to your editor, you stop for a drink with friends. you get up to go to the bathroom and when you come back your file is gone. the next day your story hits the street in a rival paper.
Are you going to just leave it? Are you going to report the theft, in witch case the reporter who took credit for your work would have his home searched for the evidence of his crime (Your original research papers)? Or do you think he should get away with it to protect the shield law?
“Fishwrap” – I love it!
@ El Guapo
“Hey, I did the same Spotlight search. Never touch a dictionary any more.”
In Safari and most other Apple apps if you hover the cursor over a word and hit Cntrl-Cmd-D a definition will pop up.
@Hurrah for MDN and others,
Steve is a progressive and clearly highly values the NYT. Dell probably does not so why don’t you jump ship, dude, and get a Dell. Your fox tinted glasses will fit better over there.
MDN – the NYT has 12-14 million unique visitors per month, once they sort a revenue model, things will be fine – I would be happy to pay them $100, you don’t have to. I like the your citing of the physical circulation number – displays your disdain for the “factistas” well done.
Steve is a progressive, burn.
and..
If your employee left one of the centerpieces of your business’ future strategy at a bar after drinking some beers you would know what to do.
It is called personal responsibility. All the BS that ensued emanated from that event.
American journalists would be unemployable elsewhere in the world…
The New York Times is nothing but nonsense. Pure crap.
So Bob, Steve enjoys pure crap? Well considered and thoughtful comment on your part. I am sure it is based on…. something.
What kind of retard would pay $100 for the NYTs? You can wipe your ass with much cheaper paper.
A retard named Steve Jobs. I am sure your life accomplishments are greater than his but he has achieved some important things, maybe you should take a pointer from him.
<i>First, why doe some journalists insist on writing with words that 95% of their readers need a dictionary to understand?.<>
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See bizlaw pound sand. Pound, pound, pound!
“The media’s crush on Apple has always been an unrequited love affair.”
Nimrod.
He’s just one of the many examples of “the media” drooling over the chance to paint any kind of dark picture of Apple they can. Apple survived years of being “beleaguered” when all the press were jeering, just dancing euphorically to Apple’s expected demise. Instead, Apple shook off the punches and rose from the ashes of its intended funeral pyre.
“The media” is still angry over that and for some insane reason, still wants Apple to fail. Yet, when the obvious truth of something can’t be denied and Apple may get a not completely negative blurb in the press, this somehow constitutes a media “love affair.”