“Apple Inc. this week began testing Mac OS X 10.5.3 Update, a third maintenance and security update to its relatively new Leopard operating system that already bundles over 75 bug fixes and code corrections,” AppleInsider reports.
“The Mac maker on Thursday informed its vast developer community of the availability of Mac OS X 10.5.3 Build 9D10, a pre-release copy of the software update featuring a core focus list spanning some two dozen core components,” AppleInsider reports.
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@Mr. Reeee,
I ALWAYS do a fresh install and I have NEVER had an OS problem because of a major upgrade. It does seem to me that when Leopard first came out over 90% of those with issues did not do a clean install. Some of the people who were bitching had done archive and installs from 10.0 onward! Holy crap, by doing that you are asking for trouble no matter what OS on this planet you are using!
My upgrade from 10.4 went very smoothly (used archive & install), as did all the upgrades in my office. 10.5.0 actually ran pretty well for me. On the other hand, both 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 introduced some weird behaviors, mostly at the application level. I have noticed that the system seems to “hang” on my first-gen MBP every so often — it appears to be very busy writing files. I suspect this has to do with either Spotlight or Time Machine. All-in-all, I still think Leopard is the best OS I have ever used. I just wish I had time in my life to do wipe my drive and do a clean install…
“Take precautions. Those seeds are mildly poisonous.”
but in the right dose they’ll make you trip your balls off!
“they’ll make you trip your balls off!”
It would be better if they tripped your balls on. Right?
Leopard and Adobe CS don’t play well together at all.
Archive & Install: Good, did that but Photoshop quits every time I go to the browser.
Tried to reinstall Tiger but now computer won’t recognize the disc!
Tiger was solid, wish I’d stayed in Tiger land!
Sometimes I un-bind F12 from Dashboard so that I don’t accidently load it, typically when I’m going to be sans network. At those times I don’t want the dashboard and its widgets to load at all.
For the first time I hit F12 I’m willing to wait for it to load.
Cubert…
Just checking… ;^)
Yeah. I’d been doing the Erase and Install (manually moving over prefs, etc, and later using Migration Assistant) since 10.0.
My Tiger User prefs folder had over 1300 files, not including folder contents! The system was having all kinds of weirdnesses and by the end, my Tiger install was so incredibly flaky I decided that when I moved to Leopard, I’d reinstall ALL my apps and reenter ALL my serial numbers, etc.. I did it over a month or so by booting to an external drive with virgin copy of Leopard installed.
It was a pain in the butt, though worth the effort. My Prefs folder is down to 430 files & folders!!! Leopard is running smooth as silk!
I hope this fixes my MBP waking up from sleep and hanging for 5 minutes and sometimes finally coming back with the video all jumpy. SUCKS when that happens
@ Cubert – yes, I play guitar (not very well, though) and I live in Hawaii. Interesting you mentioned the “HulaGirl” widget; I’ll have to try it! Anyway, I like your ideas for releasing and/or staggering widget processes – let’s hope Apple does it! Thanks for the reply BTW.
Also, I always do a clean install when moving from one major OS release to another, and once in a while, I’ll do a clean install or at least an Archive & Install when I’ve got some cr@pware stuck in my system which I can’t seem to root out. Which leads me to…
@Ralph M – I am also trying to work out the cause of sporadic system slowdown I’m getting on my own MBP under 10.5.2 which happens after I try to use QuickLook or QuickTime to play certain .mp4 or .mov files (H.264) which I have brought in and transcoded from YouTube .flv files. QuickTime is experiencing an ridiculous error which logs itself into the system.log file about a gazillion times over, sending the syslogd process up to 130% cpu usage and writing syslog files which stretch into the 300+ MB range. For you, try running either TOP (in Terminal) or even just Activity Monitor to see what is going on when your system slows down. Also, run the Console and look at your system.log or the Console Messages to see what is coming up. Perhaps this will help you nab the culprit. For me, I think perhaps there is a QT extension like my DIVX encoder that is causing the problem. Also, you mentioned Spotlight; do you have Office 2008 in your MBP? I disabled the Office Spotlight .mdimporter files and that helped quite a bit with previous slowdowns I was experiencing.
All that being said, I am still in the testing phases trying to work out the exact cause of the slowdown problems. It may take some time.
@ Dirty Pierre le Punk:
Clearly you have issues above and beyond Leopard. I work in a team of 10 in a full pipeline producing content ranging from Video Editing, to Motion Graphics, to full bore 3D Animation, to DVD Authoring. We all use Macs and are all now on Leopard with the exception being 2 machines dedicated to Audio production and post, and only then because many plugin devs in that universe are dragging their heels.
Granted, 10.5.0 and 10.5.1 had some real issues that were very counter-productive, but since 10.5.2, we have had no major problems at all, and the build feels very solid.
I think you need to fire your IT guy…
Maybe it will crash more.
Since leopard I haven’t had any issues running adobe creative suite cs3 premium. The only problem is running maya 8. It will quit randomly without notice. So I installed tiger on an external drive and installed maya 8 on that and it works fine and I think it’s better to have the app on another drive with nothing else on it… keeps me focused on only that and not going into irc or playing around in photoshop.
I have Adobe CS2 running on a G4 iBook with OS 10.4 and CS3 on a Macbook Pro wth OS 10.5. Adobe apps close slowly on both of them. I do not attribute this to the OS but to the Adobe apps. The applications do great things but they sure are “turds” in other ways. They eat up huge amounts of RAM they load and close slowly and they get “lost” from time to time. Four gigs of RAM is not always enough for them. I do not know how much would be enough.
Has anyone put Office 2008 on their Macs yet? It seems like a real dog. It’s slower to start up Word 2008 (Universal, 12.0.1) on my MBP than it was when Rosetta was translating Word 2004’s PPC code on the same machine. It certainly does not seem to handle loading user fonts very efficiently and just sits there apparently doing nothing while starting up, although it uses between 10 and 70 percent of the cpu cycles.
And when Word finally does start, it seems to be very busy doing something in the background, causing the cursor to become unresponsive as Word buffers what I type and then blurts it out in short bursts for at least the first 30 seconds until the whole thing calms down. What a mess.
FYI: I use Nisus Writer Pro for all my real work. I do have to test out all other software, however, so I can do training, troubleshooting, etc. So please don’t make the mistake of thinking I like Office. hahaha
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iCal definitely needs a major tweaking. It tends to lock up or crash when trying to post data on the calendar page. Fix please. Make it snappier.
I hope Mail gets a fix or two… Sometimes, for no reason known to be, it becomes picky about which files it lets me drag and drop as attachments…
Very annoying to compose an email and all of a sudden it won’t let me drag an attachment on. Then I have to create a new email and copy / paste everything from the draft, or even sometimes, quit Mail and launch it again…
There are two issues I’ve encountered: suddenly I can’t print anything in color accurately using profiles that worked fine under Tiger; and also, 10.5.2 refuses to mount any kind of burned media that worked just fine under 10.5.1 (incidentally, the same discs mounted just fine under Tiger, but not 10.5.0).
Leopard and Adobe CS3 don’t play well together at all.
10.5.2 fixed one Photoshop problem, but now I’ve got others.
Takes FOREVER to quit CS3 apps, to the point where I have to force quit them. —eWorldian
Don’t be so quick to blame either Adobe or Leopard. I am running Adobe CS 3 Production Premium in OS X 10.5.2 without a problem. All my CS3 apps open and close very quickly compared to previous versions. There is a set of best practices that should be observed when upgrading (or updating) OS X. My guess is that the majority of those who experience problems such as yours do not observe these practices.
By the way, for those who may be running Adobe CS: Photoshop CS did not behave properly in Leopard prior to the 10.5.2 update, but seems to be running fine now.
I’m tired of watching Mail quit on a regular basis. I don’t know what is causing it, but it happens on more than one Mac here. — Hg Wells
Again, this may not be a Leopard problem. Mail doesn’t quit on my Macs, nor have I seen evidence on the web of a widespread problem with Mail. The fact that you see this behavior on two Macs may indicate that the cause has something to do with the other software installed on these two machines, or with the way these machines are configured.
I must confess that I do have a Mail problem of my own: Mail sometimes refuses to quit and must be force-quit on these occasions. Not a big deal, but I’ll be happy when it goes away.
I wish that Startup ( Boot times ) would improve. When my iMac Core 2 Duo had Tiger, It would take 20 seconds to boot. Now with leopard it takes over 45 seconds.
I’ve even done a clean install, & added 3 GB of Ram which is the limit & no improvement.
Thats what I miss about Tiger.
I hope it fixes the intermittent problem that myself and others are experiencing on their MacBook Pros running 10.5.2 on battery power:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1390673
I think I’ll stick with Tiger 10.4.11 for my MPB C2D after hearing you guys. I just wish I still had 10.4.10, that was better.
Why is it that when people update their OS and it doesn’t work well they assume that it doesn’t work well for anyone, and bleat accordingly?
It leads to people like ‘silverhawk’ there who won’t upgrade because 6 people have had problems.
“Why is it that when people update their OS and it doesn’t work well they assume that it doesn’t work well for anyone, and bleat accordingly?”
Because anecdotal experience carries so much more weight for the individual than the empirical evidence of a larger population of users. Doesn’t make it right, but…
“@ dirty pierre: learn how to use a Mac”
I thought that was the point of buying a Mac–that people didn’t have to learn how to use it because it was so intuitive… ;o)
I just installed 10.5.3 and now nothing works well. My adobe applications barely open or work properly. Firefox has crashed on me a few times and I just installed it this morning. I’m not happy right now.