MacDailyNews presents live notes from Apple’s Q224 conference call

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MacDailyNews presents live notes from Apple’s Q224 Conference Call with analysts starting at 2pm PT / 5pm ET today, May 2, 2024.

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Apple’s live conference call webcast will begin at 2pm PT / 5pm ET here.

Apple today posted quarterly revenue of $90.753 billion (vs. $94.836 billion YoY), down 4 percent year over year, and quarterly earnings per diluted share of $1.53 (vs. $1.53 YoY).

For the quarter, analysts’ consensus estimates (per LSEG) called for Apple to report EPS of $1.50 EPS on revenue of $$90.01 billion, both of which Apple beat.

Live notes:

• AAPL After hours: $184.25 +$11.22 (+6.48%) @ 5:57PM EDT

• Luca: 45.5% – 46.5% gross margins for June; memory and foreign exchange will be slight headwinds
• Q: Commodity pricing for June quarter

• Cook: I am hearing about so many use cases; similar to how the Mac is used – you use it for everything, so, too, with the Vision Pro. It’s an enormous number of different verticals; we’re off to a good start with Vision Pro in the enterprise
• Q: Top 2-3 Vision Pro uses cases?

• Luca: We you look aver the long arc of time, we’ve gone thru a long period of a very strong dollar; so that’s something to keep in mind when you look at results
• Cook: We price our product for the value we are delivering
• Cook: Innovation spurs the upgrade cycle; economic factors play in there; carrier promotions, etc.
• Q: Do you see ways to deploy capital more to spur demand Promotions? Price decreases?

• Luca: China is by far the largest emerging market, but when you look at all of the others, the numbers are getting large; the populations are large and growing and our products are makign a lot of progress in those markets. It is very good for us, So the gap vs. China is reducing
• Q: Emerging markets growth? Can they, added up, surpass China?

• Cook: We decreased during the quarter as normal and are very comfortable with the channel inventory
• Q: iPhone channel inventory

• Cook: I can’t address the data points; I can only address our results. We did accelerate last quarter and iPhone grew in mainland China; I can’t speak to numbers coming from outside Apple
• Q: What are we missing in China, at a high level?

• Cook: We are producing there. You need to produce in China to be competitive. We continue to expand channels and are optimistic in China
• Q: China supply chain?

• Luca: Growth rates improved during 2023, so the comps are difficult, but Apple expects Services to grow double digits in Q3 Services, similar to Q2
• Luca: Overall very strong. All-time records in both developed and emerging markets
• Q: Drivers of Services growth?

• Luca: we expect to grow low single digits in Q324
• Cook: If you make the YoY adjustment on iPhone, it would be flattish YoY, not down
• Cook: GenAI is an opportunity for many of Apple’s devices; I am extremely optimistic
• Q: June quarter iPhone business to be down again? Is AI (lack thereof so far) an issue?

• Cook: Long term in China, Apple sees a lot of customers moving into the middle class; continues to be optimistic
• Cook: Acceleration from Q1, driven by iPhone, especially in mainland China, but Apple has work to do in other product categories
• Q: Economy in China?

• Luca: One step at a time. We are working very hard to get there; free cash flow has been very strong for the last several years, so that’s one reason why Apple is increasing buybacks
• Q: $58 billion net cash currently; how to get to net cash neutral?

• Luca: In general, we continue to see a lot of interest at the top of the range of our products in each category
• Q: iPhone mix tilted towards Pro models?

• Cook: Enterprise is focused on selling iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Vision Pro units
• Q: AI for the enterprise

• Cook: I think AI and GenAI both are big opportunities across our products; I think there are numerous ways that are great for Apple and the company is well-positioned; we’ll talk more about AI soon
• Q: Is AI an opportunity to monetize your mobile real estate?

• Trip to China was fantastic; I maintain a great view of China long term
• Cook: iPhone in mainland China, we grew before normalization (before supply destruction we mentioned earlier)
• Cook: In Q2, for greater China, we were down 8% due to iPhone sales
• Q: China confidence?

• Luca: Generally favorable during the quarter
• Q: Rising costs for commodity and components?

• Cook: I don’t want to get in front of our announcements; we see GenAI as a big opportunity across our products
• Generative AI monetization?

• We haven’t seen anything different within the product categories
• Luca: Down sequentially primarily due to different mix YoY, leverage plays a big role
• Q: Product gross margins? Are customers mixing down within or across product lines?

• Cook: It’s really too early to answer the question
• Q: Effect of 3rd party app stores on iPhone and iPad in the EU?

• On the CapEx front, Apple has its own data center capacity and also with 3rd parties and plans to continue along the same lines going forward
• Luca: We are obviously very excited about GenAI
• Q: Artificial Intelligence to affect historical CapEX cadence?

• Services: We’ve seen very strong, brod-based performance across the board
• Luca: We expect total revenue to grow low single digitis YoY
• Q: Outlook for products?

• Expect 45.5% – 46.5% gross margin
• Expect iPad revenue to grow double digits
• Expect Services to grow double digits
• Color: June quarter total revenue to grow low single digitis YoY

• Apple continues to plan for annual dividend increases going forward
• Apple’s board of directors has declared a cash dividend of $0.25 per share of the Company’s common stock, an increase of 4 percent
• Board of directors has authorized an additional program to repurchase up to $110 billion of the Company’s common stock
• $105 billion total debt
• Apple $162 cash and marketable securities
• Apple particularly pleased with strong performance in emerging markets

• Maestri touts Mac and Vision Pro in the enterprise

• Apple has well over 1 billion paid subscriptions across Services
• Both transacting and paid accounts reached new all-time highs
• Services revenue: $23.867 billion

• Almost 2/3rd of Apple Watch customers were new to the product in the quarter
• Wearables, home and accessories revenue: $7.913 billion

• iPad U.S. customer sat = 96%
• iPad install base hit new all-time high
• iPad revenue: $5.559 billion

• Mac sales driven by M3 MacBook Air
• Mac revenue: $7.451 billion

• iPhone customer sat in U.S = 99%
• iPhone active installed base grew to an all-time high
• iPhone revenue: $45.963 billion
• OpEx $14.4 billion, up 5% YoY
• Installed base of active devices reached an all-time high
• iPhone had a challenging compare YoY
• Luca Maestri: Revenue: $90.753 billion

• AAPL After hours: $185.21 +$12.18 (+7.04%) @ 05:12PM EDT

• Cook talks “carbon removal” projects
• Cook touts emission reductions, recycling, solar and wind power
• Apple want to become “carbon neutral” by 2030

• Cook touts privacy and protections against quantum computing
• Retail: Shanghai store opening was very exciting
• Apple Sports app released during quarter
• Promos Apple TV+ productions which win major awards
• Services revenue: $23.867 billion; all-time revenue record
• Wearables, home and accessories revenue: $7.913 billion
• Cook talks up Apple Watch; mentions AI and ML again
• iPad revenue: $5.559 billion; down 17% YoY due to difficult compare
• Cook touts M3 MacBook Air; mentions AI again
• Mac revenue: $7.451 billion, up 4% YoY
• Cook visited Southeast Asia; excited for the future
• iPhone revenue: $45.963 billion
• iPhone faced a difficult compare YoY
• Apple believes it has AI advantage that will distinguish itself; mentions neural engines and privacy focus
• Apple bullish on generative AI
• Next month WWDC – exciting!
• Exciting event coming next week
• Cook talks up Vision Pro
• Services set all-time revenue record
• Cook: Set revenue records in Latin America and Middle East, Canada, India, Span, Turkey, Indonesia

• Conference call begins
• AAPL After hours: $185.51 +$12.48 (+7.21%) @ 04:56PM EDT
• AAPL After hours: $183.99 +$10.96 (+6.33%) @ 04:46PM EDT

3 Comments

  1. The June quarter won’t be much more than meeting expectations. iPad transition means draw-down and channel inventory build up, so…

    – YoY iPad sales are likely to be down.

    – iPhone sales will come in as expected, a bit down overall due to China sales dragging the overall numbers south.

    – Mac sales likely to be flat.

    – Services likely to see upper single-digit growth

    – Accessories, flat.

    Investors loved Apple buying back stock in bulk. It means Apple believes this is a great time to buy the stock due to what’s coming next. It’s a signal for investors to dive in. Apple also shows its ability to continue generating large margin, despite the strong US dollar, and that’s a big deal to the investor.

    – Investors also see the fall quarter as something to watch for.
    All-new Apple Watch is likely to spur a big upgrade and growth cycle
    iPad sales should be stronger with the transition quarter out of the way
    Mac’s are likely to see the M4 arrive, with an aggressive upgrade path for Macs.
    iPhone 16 and a massive push with AI initiatives (from on-device, with a 32-core Neural Engine), and biggest iOS update in a decade, could prove huge for Apple.
    Vision Pro, not a lot to discuss, yet. 2026 is the year the product is most likely to take off en-mass, with Apple Vision and Vision Pro models, with enhanced graphics, longer battery life, and the Apple Vision (not the pro) coming in at $1,799 – $1,999 launching Apple into true volume consumer sales of the device. Concerts to the NBA and beyond will also have matured their experiences, along with some AR gaming (Star Wars Battlefront anyone? I want to shoot stormtroopers in my neighborhood while a Star Destroyer pulls up over my home!), should start to add huge value to the Vision product line – but Apple had better put big money and drive some mind-blowing AR action gaming into the mix to make it happen. I have little faith they would be able to environ such a move. Partnerships, commitment to buying out big gaming companies, they just don’t do it… But would be a boon for Vision if they finally committed to something big.

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