Apple may release ‘iTunes Music’ with iOS 8.4 ‘Copper’

“In addition to working on iOS 8.2, iOS 8.3, and iOS 9.0, Apple is working on yet another update to iOS 8: iOS 8.4,” Mark Gurman reports for 9to5Mac.

“According to sources, the iOS 8.4 upgrade is well into development and is codenamed Copper, a popular ski resort in Colorado,” Gurman reports. “Sources say that the iOS 8.4 update will be released after the Apple Watch becomes available, so users should not expect this update in the immediate future.”

Gurman reports, “Sources also say that Apple is currently considering using iOS 8.4 as the iOS update that includes the upcoming Beats-based streaming music service

Read more in the full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Dan K.” for the heads up.]


  1. Apple:

    Don’t you understand that bloating an OS with applications that many/most people don’t want is exactly what you used to criticize MS of doing?

    Now it is Apple that keeps stuffing apps, services, and even U2 albums at users in OS releases without giving the user the option to opt out up front.

    iCloud and Beats and other services need to be implemented as OPTIONAL apps, not as a mandatory part of an OS release. Listen to your users for once, Apple. Sheesh.

    1. Ohhh…you just had to throw in the U2 album thing, didn’t you? That is a one time event that is truly not relevant to your argument. Including it as an example just weakens your position.

      You have a potential point with respect to the proliferation of Apple services. The Apple credo is to focus on a few great things while saying no to many good ideas. In that context, I would rather have a few near-perfect capabilities added to iOS and OS X rather than a whole slew of them implemented in a flawed manner.

      As long as Apple does not excessively bloat and slow the OS, significantly increase the crash rate, or prevent users from suppressing or hiding unwanted features, then I am not overly concerned. You have to give Apple a bit of leeway to create an integrated ecosystem. Not everything can be optional if you expect the whole thing to work properly. Some functions require other functions.

      I was not aware that iCloud was mandatory unless, of course, you desire to use functions that are associated with iCloud. Am I mistaken?

      1. iCloud tenacles are wrapping everything.

        The first thing Apple makes you do when you get an Apple device is create an iCloud account. One by one Apple is abandoning its formerly leading-edge Mac applications and making them more like pathetic imitations of Google Docs.

        No, you don’t have to use iCloud but Apple does everything possible to get you hooked. Then when you data needs grow, the iCloud subscription rates ratchet up. This is just as bad as MS and the rest of “software as a service” rental computing pushers. And this is before i even get going on iAd and iBeacon, more crap that nobody asked for.

        iCloud should be a service that people install as an application like Dropbox, not a part of the OS.

        1. I can see your point with respect to iCloud, although you seems to agree that it is an optional function (as opposed to Macuser’s post, above). The fact that you have to sign up for iCloud even if you do not plan to use it is a negative.

          However, if you do not plan to use it, then your data needs do not go up, so you are not paying any subscription rates. I have never increased iCloud beyond the “free” 5GB. The only thing that i have paid for is iTunes Match, which I have found to be highly useful in accessing my music across multiple computers/devices. I am still a big fan of owning my own music rather than subscribing to a streaming service.

          Your suggestion of implementing iCloud as an app is interesting. This app could serve as a browser for iCloud content, as well as a control panel for iCloud settings and behaviors. Perhaps Apple is listening.

          I do not agree with you on Apple being just as bad as Microsoft. I suffered through the 1980s and 1990s with Microsoft, so I take a comparison like that very seriously.

          I don’t like ads, either, but Apple’s iAd is far preferable to turning Google ads loose on my iOS devices. At least Apple enforces some reasonable rules about user control and collection of user data by these companies. In addition, iBeacon is an optional service associated with transceivers installed by third parties. If you don’t want iBeacon, then I don’t believe that you are forced to deal with it. Just turn it off. I do not believe that iAd and iBeacon are “crap.”

  2. Earlier today, there was a rumor that iOS 9.0 was going to focus on stability. Maybe that means that there will be no iOS 9.0 this year and that instead we will see new iterations of iOS 8 during the year, with iOS 8.4 released around WWDC in June (since 8.3 will be released after the iWatch is released in April).

  3. I would applaud Apple separating music from everything else on iTunes with a separate app(s). iTunes has become an unmanageable mess trying to be all things for all purposes.

    Direst Web access through a browser instead of iTunes would also be nice.

  4. They are working on iBugs as a companion app with all OSX as well as IOS devices as well, which will consist of iSlow, ICrash and iDrain along with a suite of other application which users will have no control over and will work in the background without the user knowing.

    1. Sadly true. Apple seems intent on copying Google (Maps) and Microsoft (apps that require a “cloud”) and Spotify (streaming audio) and even Samsung (phablets, watches) into mediocrity without a visionary leader at the helm. Apple’s software is now buggier than ever, and Apple doesn’t do anything that some innovator hasn’t already done. If Cook can’t tie it to an iCloud account, Apple doesn’t do it. What a shame.

      iTunes is a bloated unituitive mess and Beats ain’t gonna save it.

    2. You guys are way too negative. You are entitled to your opinions, but I see no reason to believe that Apple and its products are suddenly descending into the crapper.

      I admit that the current releases of OS X and iOS still need some improvement, but Apple has already made a highly public commitment to focusing on bug and stability fixes. I am not a lemming, but my experience is that Apple tends to rapidly recover from its mistakes and refocus its team on the things that matter the most. If things do not improve over the next year, then you can gripe with some justification.

      1. Mel, please do me a favor: count the number of developers for Windows versus OS X.

        Or make an objective comparison of Mac OS 10.6 versus XP. Although XP packed in some more features, technically and from a usability standpoint, Apple demonstrated a clearly superior OS before ~ 2009.

        Now compare Yosemite and Windows 8.1. As much as i hate Windows and the juvenile “Metro” tiles, the reality is that Yosemite has degraded into an ugly unintuitive buggy mess while Microsoft has copied and evolved to have more capability than the Mac. It has a more efficient file system with error checking. It has more 3rd party programs and is available with more hardware — including superior and highly customizable hardware — than Apple offers. And with so few professional-level Mac programs and Apple screwing up its pro apps one by one to be merely glorified iOS apps that attempt tie you to the iCloud, most Mac owners have no choice but to include a Windows partition to run the best software.

        Sorry, but until Apple focuses on improving the Mac and giving developers a reason to put their best software on the Mac, the platform will continue to play second fiddle to Windows. We all know that Mac hardware sells well to consumers, but again, look at the number of Macs which have Windows installed. THAT is the truth that fans here always ignore. If the Mac platform was truly healthy, then Apple would have as many developers as Windows does. Apple had every opportunity to trounce Microsoft when they rolled out Vista and RT and ugly Metro crap. But instead it seems Apple hired a bunch of Microsoft programmers and let Ive turn the Mac into a glorified cell phone. No pro needs Notifications and Stacks and Handoff and Time Machine and all the junk. They need a faster, more secure, more intuitive, more stable OS, and Apple has absolutely degraded on all those measures since Snow Leopard.

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