“Back in June soon after Apple offered a sneak peek at the new Mac Pro, a Geekbench result from the new machine appeared revealing some performance information about the machine under its internal product code name of AAPLJ90,1,” Eric Slivka reports for MacRumors. “That machine was running a 12-core Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2 at 2.7 GHz, representing what would be a high-end model of the machine.”
“Today, a new Geekbench result that appears to be a second legitimate Mac Pro has appeared, this time running a lower-end 8-core Intel Xeon E5-1680 v2 chip at 3.0 GHz,” Slivka reports. “As with the previous Mac Pro seen on Geekbench, this new machine is running a custom internal build of OS X Mavericks, in this case Build 13A3010.”
Slivka reports, “Exact Geekbench scores are not comparable between the two Mac Pro models, as the original one was benchmarked using Geekbench 2 and the new one was benchmarked under Geekbench 3, which uses a new baseline measure. The latest machine can, however, be compared to other Mac models tested using Geekbench 3.”
See all of the benchmarks in the full article here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Bill” for the heads up.]
The Mac Pro that nobody wants and no one will buy. Poor design decision and very limited internal expansion options. Cook the non visionary strkes again.
Your comment reminds me of Steve Ballmer on the iPhone.
… except, of course, that Ballmer was obviously wrong, whereas it remains to be seen how well Thunderbolt fares.
The sales of the next-generation Mac Pro will be linked to the fate of Intel’s latest connection technology, like it or not. So far despite being on the market for quite a while and being deployed on Mac laptops, Thunderbolt accessories remain few and far between … and overpriced.
One can already hear the whines of misunderstanding when inexperienced users expect their new, less expensive USB3 external hard drive to fly — only to have the USB bus operating at USB 2 speeds because older legacy peripherals are also plugged in. At that point, they will blame Apple for not buying a Thunderbolt drive, and will — with some merit — disparage the Apple markup when their new Thunderbolt drive costs significantly more than a USB3 drive does, without offering the average user a commeasurate bump in performance for the price differential.
Don’t worry this guy hasn’t escaped flared pants and mullets yet so its a natural to be stuck in the past.
Are you really a Mac Merchant? Comments like that are a heckuva way to drum up business.
He works in a local best buy as one of the nerd herd (like a mac genius, only for windows, and of course far less competent) So technically yes he is, but in actuality, no he really isn’t
Though they carry Apple, the nerd herd at best buy are typically very anti Apple, Mostly, I think, because Apple store employees make roughly double what they do. (and you know envy does terrible things to one’s soul)
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I want one
No one? Speak for yourself low end user. I’ll have three in my office ASAP one one at home.
I guess I must either be a nobody because I want one, or you are a analyst type that says the same doom and gloom thing about ever Apple product being released.
Then again, you might be a CEO from a multimillion dollar company taking time out to guide..of wait, you aren’t giving any guidance whatsoever.
Troll.
Is that you, Jay Morrison?
I definitely want one. I think the real problem is this:
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Thunderbolt/PCIe_Chassis/Mercury_Helios/ – $349
Just the TB chassis costs $349, let alone the card and cable. If these come down in price; that would be good for pro users. Maybe that will happen when you have to have them for the new Pro.
Personally, I don’t need any expansion slots, and it would be *great* to not have to pay for slots I don’t use. So, if it’s priced reasonably, I’m in. It is higher-tech than the old Mac Pro, but much less materials. Another issue is the custom GPU; that’ll cost more than the comparable standard Fire PCIe card, just because AMD won’t have the volume. Who knows; we’ll see when it happens.
This is key. To really take advantage of this machine, you are going to have to have an external thunderbolt multi-drive bay, which is much more expensive than internal mounting would have been. But if you are the target market for the Mac Pro, this probably is not much of an obstacle.
Plus … the stock Mac Pro has a humongous power supply it doesn’t need for external devices.
Apple gets feedback from its Macs letting it know how customers use its machines and the vast majority don’t use the expansion slots, so it makes sense to offer Macs tailored to what customers actually do.
Sure, Apple did the market research and discovered that indeed many businesses link to servers and don’t use hard drive slots as intently as all of us used to do.
However, there is a huge range of users that Apple is simply not capturing. People have been waiting for a mini tower. Personally, I think this is it. Because Apple should still have a complete workstation for those who DO use internal expansion options and lots of legacy peripherals.
“Legacy peripherals” – if this is you, buy a PC.
Ever since I can remember Apple has had no problem nixing the legacy stuff in favor of moving the needle forward.
On desktop applications: Floppy drives, serial ports, unnecessary keyboard functions, optical drives, swappable batteries, upgradable RAM
On mobile:
See above plus removable storage cards, physical keys/keyboards, I’m sure there’s more.
Point is, you knew this going in, so don’t wine about it.
I wouldn’t put it past Apple to come up with their own solution. They used to sell a RAID card for their Mac Pro’s for users who wanted Raid Level 5, or higher. I will miss the four 3.5″ bays though. I think the new Peo’s have two SSD slots though. A single 3.5″ or even a 2.5″ hard drive bay would have been a nice addition for Time Machine backups. I can’t see spending money on an expensive SSD just for doing backups. I wonder if the new Pro will be able to handle RAID 5 and higher on their own. The vast majority of Mac Pro’s I’ve configured over the years, never needed or wanted expansion cards. I can only think of a few very high end options where they would be applied. Did Apple ever say they were abandoning the old Pro design? For those who need it with it’s impressive array of expansion options, it would seem logical to offer it along with the new Pro. Damn, Apple is good about keeping things in the dark.
I’m sure the news media and Wall Street will say the exact same thing as you. They’ll have a field day and I’ve come to expect as much. The new Mac Pro will likely make Apple more unfavorable from an investor’s standpoint. I’ve heard too many Mac Pro users say they don’t like the form factor or having to use external hard drives. Will more than one graphics card fit in that can? No! If loyal Mac Pro users hate it, then I can only imagine what Apple haters in general will think. It would suit me perfectly but I’m not a pro-user. Apple desperately needs products it can sell in quantity and this Mac Pro won’t be the answer. Almost every pro-user expects the same form factors for a new computer when running a business. Anything else makes them pout.
Bold words from Mac Merchant, especially since NO ONE has touched one or used one.
FWIW, I want one and if I had the money available, I’d buy one.
You, my friend, have been iCal’d.
I don’t doubt the capabilities of the new Mac Pro. It looks like one hell of a kickass computer. But people buy them because if the expabdability available via PCI and multiple hard drive space. Say I want to build an video advertising display using nine monitors. I’ll need three or four PCI slots for video cards. Say I want to set up a server with RAID 5 which needs a minimum of four drives, piece of cake with the current Mac Pro. The new Peo is pretty, but how pretty would it be with a stack of four external drives and all the cables that’ll be needed to hook them up, yuk. Apple should sell their new design, they should also put the same specs in a new Pro that matches the current Pro form factor.
Vai a cagare!!
Wow thats a pretty bold statement. You would be dangerous if you knew what you were talking about.
Mac Merchant the ignorant without imagination strikes again – except, it is not much of a strike, it is a poor excuse for an opinion.
I will definitely buy a new Mac Pro. I can afford one, and I am ready for hitherto unattainable computing excitement and added zest, and maybe even for some utility. So far, I have always expanded into available computing space with ease. I trust my imagination will help me fill this new space too.
What on earth are you talking about. Mac Pro is the producers’ dream, the designers’ heaven, the Ferrari of 3D modellers’…. because of its sheer crazy speed. You are not the only person in this world.
No it’s not a “dream”…
This IS the reality, and just too damn funny…
Oh, by the way, Final Cut Pro EX will NOT be the video platform of choice. I just watched an entire college, in NJ, switch from FCP 7 to Premiere… after trying and HATING FCP X. Most students found FCPx to be confusing and counter-intuitive.. But we’ve known that. The garbage can Mac PRO doesn’t make sense to buy, when you price in monitors, etc. Most pro’s will find that a blown out iMac the better buy… Apple blows it again. I’ll just say it that I think the CAN is the stupidest design ever. Nobody is requesting the Mac Pro be SMALL… I’m surprised they didn’t go with THIN…
I gotta say this is the nail in the coffin. The disaster that was the Final Cut transition last year, the iOS7 ugliness, and now this ludicrous mac pro. Does it come with 20 iFilters? It WILL be loud and HOT. Somebody better knock Jonny Ive out of place, because the wunderkind has lost his luster. He was also behind the new ios look debacle. And Cook may not have the guts to do it, but do it he better.
The ENTIRE point of a workstation is that you are paying extra to CUSTOMIZE it to your heart’s content. Apple’s Macpro has lagged the PC on the hardware side for years now. The only saving grace has been that Windows has and continues to suck, because it is also run by clueless entrenched bots. So now we are stuck with two hardware dictators on top of the pile, plus the suck that is Adobe.
Some great software out there is not even written for the mac anymore, rumors of the horrors of Xcode I have also read.
I still like the mac minis and macbookpros, but I keep thinking I need to look elsewhere for my dreamed super station.
Has anyone else noticed that, more often than not, the first post on an MDN article is trollish in nature. They must sit there, Command-R-ing like crazy so they can be the first with their comment.
He is right about one thing, though—the very limited internal expansion. UNfortunately, the fact that expansion on this puppy is EXTERNAL has sailed right over this moron’s head.
As Dorothy Parker once said: you can lead a whore to culture but you can’t make her think!
=:~)
Wait, I bet they’re Crtl-R-ing!
I guess they were hired by Samsunbullshitg
NO, actually, I find users that are concerned with the direction of MAC design… and when products and decisions can be mocked, it sucks for APPLE.. as a shareholder, my dismay for many Apple decisions of late is because I have higher expectations. The simple idea that “nobody even KNOWS what apple is thinking about for PROS” means most pros just say “Screw it, Tired of waiting…” and get PC hardware at 1/3 the cost.. it’s just a fact.
I say it’s coming in October.
I just want the case so I can ‘Ben Heckendorn’ my Mac Mini into it.
I’m buying one to replace my 7 year old custom Win 7 workstation at work.
Granted, I’ll be running WIN 7 in VMWare so that I can run required software for our business, but it will be much faster on the Mac Pro.
Been waiting for this for a while as I have a thunderbolt external drive I want to use.
A couple points:
1) These Mac Pros they’re testing aren’t the actual product. So what’s the point of testing them? BFD.
2) Anyone with a prototype new Mac Pro OR with OS X Mavericks is bound but the NDA (non-disclosure agreement) to keep their traps shut. Therefore, these test announcements are illegal.
This thing is DOA. I predict it will be a disaster.
I have 2 MacPro’s BTW but I hate this new design.
I want all my stuff inside a single box not a thousand
little boxes all over the place.
This sucks. Apple has dropped the ball. Idiots!
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