Woz on Ashton Kutcher’s ‘Jobs’: Young Steve was no saint

“The first trailer of the incoming Steve Jobs’ biopic starring Ashton Kutcher is here,” Jesus Diaz reports for Gizmodo. “I asked Steve Wozniak, close friend of Steve Jobs and Apple co-founder about it.”

I have a little bug in me that says that this movie will portray Steve as a saint who was ignored, rather than one of the key people who led Apple through failure after failure (Apple ///, LISA, Macintosh) while the revenues poured in from the Apple ][ that Jobs was trying to kill. It’s nice to have the luxury to fail. The Macintosh market was created in the 3 years after Jobs left, with a lot of effort, by some who Jobs disdains.

Jobs came back as the saint and god we now recognize and did then head the creation of other products as great as the Apple ][, like the iTunes store, the iPod, the retail stores, the iPhone and the iPad. But he was a different person, more experienced and more thoughtful and more capable of running Apple in those later years.

We truly could have used the later Jobs in earlier years at Apple, is what I feel.

Many more thoughts from Woz in the full article here.

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47 Comments

    1. Steve knew so well, about Woz’s unhappiness over how things went at Apple, through the years. I think this kind of relationship is inevitable. Two “kids” start out, and as time passes, they diverge. The point being, they used each other, as a-posed to having truly the same vision.

      Steve could never say anything about it. He was stuck. Woz has the luxury to jab at Steve, a little bit, and no one would blame him. However if Steve jabbed back…

      So we get to see these little statements now and then.

  1. They didn’t kick Steve out of Apple, in ’85, because he was an *ss H*le. He was ahead of his time, and not in sync with culture and commerce. Woz had a healthier perspective, in the early days, and was fundamental to Apple’s early developments.

    The truth is, the Apple // days were numbered. Had they stuck with the single platform, Apple would have not gone much further than Commodore. So they needed something better, something to compete with IBM, which already had outperformed Apple in sales and computational power.

    I think Steve’s failures in the early days, were more or less like a fish, gasping at air. Boom, boom, boom, nothing penetrated the business market, despite the premium product and pricing.

    When the Mac, was re-released at a lower price point, much in the same fashion, as the iPhone was repriced at $199 – explosion, sales through the roof.

  2. Let’s face the truth. Jobs hired the sugar water salesman. Steve was indirectly responsible for his firing and the poor Apple performance after his firing.

    He was an asshole when he was fired. He was a different man when he came back.

    Woz is right.

    1. I know that MDN loves to rewrite this history, but the fact is that after Steve was pushed out of Apple, the company did rather well for the next six or seven years. Sculley was not a dolt (again, MDN’s constant trashing of the man may have some regulars here confused) and he boosted sales through the successful introduction of the Macintosh II, the LC and the first Powerbooks (under Sculley, Apple was the most profitable PC company in the world). He was also the champion of the Newton, which is a direct predecessor of the iPhone. Apple didn’t begin to crash and burn until Sculley was replaced by Spindler, and after that, Amelio in the early 1990s. The return of Jobs in 1997 was almost five years after Sculley’s departure.

      Yes, yes, I know that this is not the story you normally hear at MDN, but these are the facts and it is time for the Sculley bashing to stop.

      1. I see no rewritten history. MDN scours the web for  relevant news with an occasional astute opinion. The reality is that Scully nearly destroyed , Steve Jobs, the visionary, recreated it. In the future, Ralph, STFU.

      2. Dude, Sculley singlehandedly gave the Mac OS to Microsoft and caused the Windows 95 avalanche that damn near killed Apple. I don’t even have to mention the Newton disaster.

        1. Sculley was gone from Apple YEARS before Win95 was released. And it was Jobs – not Sculley – that invited Microsoft to take advantage of the Mac OS and provided advance access to MS so it could develop software like Excel. And it was Jobs, as one of his first acts upon return to Apple, who brokered a détente with MS entered into a broad cross-licensing agreement.

          Again, the facts can be pesky things…

    2. So it’s Steve’s fault that scullery pretended to agree with him long enough to get the job, then sided with idiots who claimed there ” was no such thing as a home computer market”??

      That’s bullshit. Sculley was on the side of the suits at apple who were totally against what Steve wanted to do with the Mac. It was sculley that jacked the price up $500 higher than Steve’s team had designed it for.

  3. I don’t doubt that in terms of financial stability, the Apple II was vital. In fact, I’d say “duh.”

    But the Mac was vital to the iPod, and the iPod vital to the iPhone, the iPhone vital to the iPad, and really of them eventually vital to the Mac.

    The point is Steve Jobs recognized that if Apple were to rest on its laurels with the Apple II, it would eventually be surpassed by the industry. So you create, build and milk technology but you never sit still.

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