Topsy Turvey: Google exec cracks under Apple cross-examination during U.S. v. Apple e-book trial

“With his arms folded tightly across his chest, Apple’s lead attorney Orin Snyder appeared to seethe as he began to question Thomas Turvey,” Greg Sandoval reports for The Verge.

“Under Snyder’s questioning, Turvey acknowledged that he couldn’t remember a single name of any of the publishing executives who had told him Apple was the reason the publishers were switching their business model,” Sandoval reports. “He conceded that the publisher’s move to the agency system was important to Google’s own business, yet Turvey couldn’t remember any details about the conversations with publishers. By the end of the interview Turvey had gone from saying the publishers had told him directly, to saying they had merely told people on his team, to finally saying the publishers had ‘likely’ told someone on his team.”

Sandoval reports, “It was a topsy Turvey moment for the increasingly unsure Google exec… Outside the court, Turvey appeared sullen and declined to comment.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take:

The e-book case to me is bizarre. We’ve done nothing wrong there, and so we’re taking a very principled position… We’re not going to sign something that says we did something we didn’t do… So, we’re going to fight. – Apple CEO Tim Cook, May 28, 2013

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  1. Good quote, MDN. That’s right, Tim, Apple did nothing wrong. This is a Salem witch trial. For some reason, the DOJ wants Apple to be bad. Maybe to cover up all the bad deeds the DOJ, themselves, have been up to…

    1. Or maybe to divert attention from all the dirty deeds that hundreds of U.S. corporations get away with as a matter of course, with the full blessing of the U.S. gov’t. They throw someone to the wolves every once in awhile to demonstrate how committed to fairness and justice they are, then happily go back to business as usual.

    1. Well.

      There’s Amazon and Google, who have influence because they pay the right people.

      Then there’s the politicians who Apple HAVEN’T been paying, who want their “share” of Apple’s profits.

      Or it could be Dr. Evil. Although this plot is devoid of lasers on the moon or sharks with laser beams on their heads.

  2. This is a Chicago political machine shake down. Pay protection money in the form of political contributions or pay the price in government harassment. Given the recent hire of a former Obama cabinet official, Apple is catching on. Sad.

    1. @Okie

      Do you have any proof or is this just another Right Wingnut conspiracy theory trolling adventure? You are making a very bold and extraordinary claim, one that demands bold and extraordinary evidence? Have any?

      1. To be completely honest, Okie, that’s how things work in politics in general. It’s not a “Democrat or Republican” thing. It’s not a “Chicago” thing. It’s American politics at work. Grease the right wheels, receive special privileges … piss off the wrong people (or fail to pay them), and you suffer the consequences.

        That’s just how our corrupt government works.

      2. You are either a babe, too young to know better, or you know but you’re “just another Left Wingnut” or worse, a Low Information Voter who knows more what Madonna was doing in mid to late nineties then what your elected officials were…

        Just ask Microsoft what happens when you don’t do the Washington dance, called the DC shuffle… links below

        See what Google’s been up… links below

  3. Thomas Turvey the Captain Queeg of ‘The Caine Mutiny’ if ever there was one…

    “Ahh, but the strawberries that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers…”…

  4. You realize you idiots get skewed information on this site? MDN posts snippets of information from around the Web that more times than not supports Apple. In other words, this site is more bias than a xenophob.

    Who gives a fuck about this?

    Apple colluded with industry to fix and inflate eBook prices.

    “Let’s make a go at creating a $12.99 and $14.99 eBook market”.
    Steve Jobs.

    1. NICE . . . lead with an insult, follow by vulgar language. Why don’t you go chat it up with your android buddies on one of their websites? Don’t bother engaging with this self centered troll, he is not interested in worthwhile debate.

    2. “Who gives a fuck about this?”

      weird comment from a guy who has posted umpteen times on MDN about this issue, day in day out on every article.

      I understand apple FANS posting a lot on an Apple FAN SITE but a guy who hates apple and apple fans (” you all are delusional fanboys” )…

      who is delusional?

  5. Go Apple is right! I am so tired of everyone (especially our own shameless government) suing Apple just because they are the only entity on the planet that can manage their finances well. It’s like some weird prevailing mentality of “you have it, I need it, so I’ll take it [in court].” Apple’s legendary pile of cash continues to attract the parasitic blood suckers.

    1. i agree! it’s obviously been going on for a while but the floodgates seemed to open wide right around the dividend decision.
      maybe this is one of the reasons Steve was against it—a dividend is like chumming the waters? hey!! do you smell money?! over here: money!!!

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