Apple wins U.S. preliminary injunction against the Samsung/Google Galaxy Nexus over Siri patent

“Judge Lucy Koh of the United States District Court for the Northern District of California has just granted Apple a preliminary injunction against the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, an Android-based smartphone co-developed by Samsung and Google,” Florian Mueller reports for FOSS Patents.

“The ruling is a huge win for Apple and Morrison & Foerster, the law firm working on this part of the litigation,” Mueller reports. “Apple and its lawyers convinced Judge Koh that the Galaxy Nexus likely infringes all four of the patents asserted in the preliminary injunction motion, and that all four of them are likely valid. But in the United States, injunctive relief is granted only if monetary damages are insufficient to make the right holder whole, and if other requirements are met. Courts apply the four-factor eBay v. MercExchange test. Apple’s motion passed that test with respect to the “Siri patent”, a patent on unified search. It must be a huge disappointment for Google to lose this lawsuit over a search patent.”

Mueller reports, “With respect to the other three patents at issue in this context — slide-to-unlock, data tapping and autocorrect –, Judge Koh was not convinced that those features drive consumer demand and that Samsung’s likely infringement causes irreparable harm. But Apple can still win an injunction when this case goes to trial, and even if it couldn’t prove an entitlement to injunctive relief over those patents at that stage, Samsung would be liable for significant damages.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: What’s this? Are the rusty gears of justice finally beginning to turn? If so, may they promptly grind slavish copier Samsung into submission.

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65 Comments

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      1. lol

        That’s just some bullshit designed to protect job-destroying politicians and their policies, isn’t it?

        Make it so people can’t vote you out of office for putting them out of work. That’s a mighty sweet deal.

  1. What we need is a nice little limited nuclear war between North and South Korea. If the North wins, no more iPhone rip-offs. And even if they don’t, I’m sure the South Koreans would be taught a lesson they sorely need…

    1. James T. you are an idiot. Why do you root for a nuclear war because a company in Korea is ripping off an Apple product. Stupid is as stupid does. What lesson will the South learn if North Korea attacks.

    2. James – I am 100% with dapoktan here. There are lot of Koreans who are happy Apple customers. You on other hand most likely are not an Apple customer. Apple customers tend to be happy and satisfied bunch.

  2. We have only got two PRELIMINARY injunctions so far. Seems to me the courts overturn these kinds of wins into losses willy nilly. So I wouldn’t be celebrating just yet. We still need that killer blow that wipes the smile from faces of SamDung and eventually Schmidt.

  3. MDN sure has changed their tune with their latest take.

    The last time Apple won an injunction, all we got were snarky comments about Apple’s legal team and hints of MDN’s usual vendetta against Tim Cook when it comes to Samsung.

    Calling out the slow gears of justice is a far more realistic and accurate approach.

  4. Does this explain why Apple made the unprecedented move to include Siri in beta form on the 4S?

    On the ability of Siri to drive demand:

    “The Court is persuaded by the evidence in the record that the ’604 unified search functionality drives consumer demand in a way that affects substantial market share. Even accepting Samsung’s argument that the intelligent voice-recognition aspect of Siri, as advertised, also contributes to consumer interest in the iPhone 4S, Apple has shown that the ‘604 Patented feature is core to Siri’s functionality and is thus a but-for driver of demand for Siri. Accordingly, the Court finds that Apple has adequately established the requisite causal nexus between Samsung’s alleged infringement of the ‘604 Patent and Apple’s risk of suffering irreparable harm.”

  5. Samsung will find an excuse to keep selling their stuff and then claim damages from Apple.

    “This one is blue, so we can still sell these. And the one’s already on the shelfs . . .”

  6. At last someone else who can tell the obvious idiocy of these judges. This means nothing but to further solidify the divide between iOS/Android/Windows et al. Apple will continue to use the courts to stop competition (don’t even start now this “Samsung/Google copied blah blah blah… Apple didn’t invent ANY of this in question) until gov’t finally drops the big boot on them like they did Microsoft in the late 90s. It can’t happen soon enough.

  7. Sad day for Android developers like myself. Regardless of Samsung’s decisions on what they do wrong, I’m disheartened that Apple chose to target a manufacturer instead of being the “Big Bad Brute” it thinks it is, and targeting Google themselves. As I said in a previous post, I’ve been a member of 4 mobile ecosystems over the past 4 years. I lost RIM due to their lack of any true demand any longer. Windows Phone is still bubbling, and still makes me happy with Xbox integration. But iOS had lost my interest in the not-so-distant past. Android has been ideal for me as a developer, and that’s WITH experience with 4 other platforms. By far, Windows Phone is the easiest of the bunch, but Android’s SDK is so flexible, and readily available to all OS platforms.

    Also, Android as an operating system is wide open for anyone to change it for their own PERSONAL liking, which has led to the fantastic CyanogenMod project, multi-million used, free, opensource Android operating system based entirely off the open source that came from Google.

    It bewilders me that a fanboi/phandroid war can break out, when every mobile platform has a specific audience they cater to. Android has hit the masses due to low cost, as is unavoidable with the open nature. It hurts the image a bit, with StraightTalk even offering handsets that are cheap and/or poorly designed with little or NO support after initial sale. That’s horrible. But flagships like the Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, and HTC One phones, those are worth carrying the Android badge of honor.

    That doesn’t mean Apple doesn’t have a place. Sure it does. But the cost isn’t exactly something the “99%” is looking to spend when all they need is a phone to check their emails while they’re out and about. Or a phone that can do double-duty as a GPS, and yet runs on a cheap regional carrier like Cricket.

    My carrier, T-Mobile, has supported the iPhone in an unofficial stance, for many years now. They have claimed well over a million on their network. They are now refarming their wireless bands to make the iPhone compatible with their network, and make way for LTE. All of that, I’m not gonna complain about. They’ve had me for 8 years, with a phenomenal plan under $100 that gives me unlimited everything, and 10GB of high-speed data with free tethering. Why SHOULD I leave them for a phone? I shouldn’t!

    The iPhone captivated me at its first showing. I was a Danger Sidekick user, along with a Windows Mobile device I kept on my hip. The mobile landscape was rich with different platforms back in 2007, though they all were slowly being killed off due to many different factors, at the time the iPhone was NOT one of the primary factors.

    Here we are in 2012, and due to some STUPID patent, it’s now war against a handset manufacturer, who lets Google put the pure, naked, vanilla operating system onto their hardware. And the patent in question is related to a piece of software, which Google themselves are responsible for. Why is Samsung in the cross-hairs then? For this, after reading multiple takes on the subject, I will not understand. Punish developers who are innocent parties in this? They have a desire to go with Android for one reason or another, more often than not for that 400 million device-count. That’s a huge audience, with varying amounts of pocket-change they are looking to part with. Or deal with ads in order to enjoy whatever experience a developer creates.

    This leaves out the consumers. They just want a phone that does whatever they want. My phone does what I want, and more. And it’s an HTC One S, the most recent in a line of HTC devices (T-Mobile G2, MyTouch 3G, T-Mobile G1, HD7, TouchPro2, T-Mobile Wing, and T-Mobile MDA). The point is, the iPhone didn’t “pave the way” for smartphones when Palm and Microsoft did it for years, along with BlackBerry. They were the groundbreakers here. The iPhone wasn’t “the first smartphone”. It was, in my honest opinion, the first smartphone that was designed with complete morons in mind, no doubt.

    For example, my neighbor walked over earlier with his iPhone 4 from Sprint, and said “my battery isn’t dead, but the phone won’t turn on”. To which I said “oh lovely… let me see.” He tried chargin it with my iPod cable, to no avail, and I then forced a reboot using the home button & power button. And it was fixed. That’s a rare issue, I understand, but still wasn’t something he expected in the “prefect harmony” that he was sold as part of the Apple experience. He actually said to me he wants to go back to Android now. That hurts Apple, and it hurts EVERY smartphone out there.

    It’s not a perfect world, I understand that. But from a realist point of view, from someone who admired & at the same time hated Steve Jobs for his insane views on subjects, is it not possible to put down the nuclear arms and just give it a rest? So what if Apple makes a heap-ton of cash from the iOS platform? So what if Android dominates ALL markets? So what if Windows Phone has barely a dent in market share? So what if BlackBerry is going deep under? Android started many MANY years before the iPhone was public, 2003 is when the company was incorporated, and 2005 was when Google picked them up. The groundwork was laid well before the iPhone existed, well before Android existed. Yet, here we are, staring at SJ’s own “thermonuclear war”, and it’s going to make a LOT of unhappy consumers out there.

    It wouldn’t feel good if someone had their heart set on scooping up a brand new Galaxy Nexus since that was the device THEY chose, even after experiencing an iPhone, and Apple caused them not to get THE Google sanctioned development device. It hurts people who made the conscious decision just as much as those that make an unconscious decision.

    Apple doesn’t need to boast about their profits to make me have interest in them. They look greedy to me, like the Microsoft of yore. It’s not a “biggest pocketbook wins” kind of game. It should be “the CONSUMER who enjoys the ownership wins” kind of game. Unfortunately, for Apple, that has been Android. Due to cost, due to availability, diversity, any of a heap of reasons. Sure, there’s some flop devices out there. Apple has only 1 device a year to worry about. HTC is attempting to try the game, with a line of only 3 devices, one for each segment of the market that they see the biggest sales in. They’re smart.

    But in the end, again, users/consumers tend to lose. My One S has a ton of issues with relation to HTC changing the software to get around an Apple patent. Every time I turn around my default applications switch on me. It’s irritating, and not originally part of Android, it’s related to HTC Sense. So I’ve decided to wipe the phone clear, install a pure Android experience, and go from there. I have that choice, I have that option. With Apple, it’s that way, or the highway. I’m not saying that’s wrong, because for some people that’s right. I’m just not one of those people.

    And with that, I’m done… I just hope that people actually take the blinders off for a minute and look at the realistic side of this. Consumers lose more than Samsung does.

    1. …so what you’re basically saying is: Samsung / Google should be allowed to infringe on Apple’s IP, because it makes your life easier in the end. Right?

      IOW: I should be allowed to copy my classmate’s term paper, because it makes my life easier. Other classmates should be able to copy the term paper as well. Stealing one guys work is eventually good for the whole class.

      I HATE the slacker mentality.

      1. “…Right?” ‘& then by inference, all the developers who work on my Android should be allowed to profit by my poaching of Apple’s intellectual property.’

        At issue here is a classic example of why Patents were first introduced into the early fabric of our country’s foundation. The leaders understood that when a person is granted a limited time exclusive (or monopoly if you wish) on the new inventions they could come up with, that society as a whole would be spurred to growth in unimaginable ways as everyone would benefit from the drive to innovate.

        Given the desire to make a better product, ACompany is often required to invent an even better solution after his BCompany competitor created an earlier invention and so on.

        My answer to the Google/Android ‘problem’ is for Google to invent the next great thing. That is when their platform will achieve massive proprietary product growth.

        And guess what? The US over the next 200 years became the most dynamic innovative country on earth.

        Did it hurt other companies that didn’t innovate or innovated later? I would argue not. Everyone got to use new products that were continually improved. The steam engine was constantly improved by one inventor after another, until they achieved a high degree of efficiency and then finally someone invented an even better device, a steam turbine, which led to…

        1. I have one key thing I forgot to point out in my original comment; If Apple were to wipe Android off the planet, then I’d turn to Windows Phone. If that was their next target, and they somehow wiped Microsoft out of the smartphone business, not only would the regulators start doing their job (actually they’d start soon as Android would get a massive blow), but I’d just walk away from the idea of smartphones altogether. If it’s only Apple in the smartphone industry, then I’d go back to using Windows Mobile or a Sidekick– even if the Sidekick platform and servers are long gone.

          Apple has left a sour taste in the mouths of those who just want choice, and choose based on what they like best. As others have said elsewhere on the web, the patent in question on this is something Android has had SINCE THE BEGINNING, long before Siri existed, and something ALL smartphones can do these days; search multiple sources. A standards patent. I would NOT buy an iPhone for Siri. I would not buy an iPhone for anything, actually. You could hand me one free, while I keep my service, my plan, my insurance, etc. I still wouldn’t take it. I’m an iOS user since iOS 2.x, on 2 iPod touches. They never compelled me. Usability is okay in some areas, others I don’t quite like. It’s just my preference.

          The thing I really want to know, is if these were in any sort of patents, how did Apple get them well ahead of Google implementing these features? That’s the big issue with our patent system, company A comes up with something secretly, company B comes up with something a bit open to the public without the knowledge of company A’s plans, and they release it in perhaps a beta context. Company A implements similar features and has had the patent years before they bring it to market, long after company B’s solution becomes widely used, and then try to use a patent as their backbone, on a technology that they took too long to bring to market.

          As an example of a flop for Apple, look at the MobileMe situation when it first came out. It was a disaster at first, but later was fixed before finally becoming iCloud. That was wise. Put your service OUT THERE so that people get to try it out, and YOU become the first to market with certain features. Don’t hide it, “polish it” and then patent it as your own just so you can run around and scream “You get a lawsuit, and YOU get a lawsuit, and YOU get a lawsuit, everyone gets a lawsuit!” when another company puts out a similar service long before you.

          That’s exactly the vibe I’ve picked up. I’ve said before that I’ve respected Apple for their innovations, but a lot of them are EVOLUTIONARY changes of current standards or up & coming standards. Best recent example is with tablet computing. Microsoft may not have nailed it in the early 2000’s with XP Tablet PC Edition, but I wanted one BAD. Now Apple touts like they invented tablet computing, when there were others that came long before the iPad, even the iPhone. They slap a patent on things that are basic common sense when it comes to user interfaces, or design decisions. What next, a 7″ tablet and they’ll go after ASUS and Amazon for having 7″ tablets out there? Who was first to market with the 7″ tablets? Amazon. Actually, they weren’t. The Galaxy Tab 7″, a God-awful attempt by Samsung to try and jump into the tablet market before thinking about how a blown-up phone layout would look on a tablet. I personally don’t even like the look on the Nexus 7, for that exact same reason. The tablet layout in Android is much better on a 10″ like my Xoom.

          At the end of the day, any realist would have to look at how the patent system works, and make modifications to it. I think any patent should have a working PUBLICLY VISIBLE proof-of-concept prototype within 6 months, and brought to market in 1 year. If the technology in use takes a lot more time, then at least show the patent office your current status, and what you’re working on, in an effort to extend your time. But your “exclusivity” to that patent should only be available for so long, if you aren’t timely in bringing that tech to market. It’s not about ruining innovation, it’s that patent trolls have a habit of holding onto patents for things that may currently not be feasible, and when the technology becomes available by some other company, it’s suddenly their job to sue the hell out of that company. Maybe you shouldn’t have rested on your laurels, and brought something to market. Or at least that’s how I see this whole patent mess.

          If Apple gets their way, that makes them a monopoly, and could destroy the smartphone industry. No one wants that. They should just be happy they are making their money, and move on. Worry more about what you can do to improve your product and try bringing other people in, instead of trying to squash any and all competitors who have similar functions to yours, that may or may not have been copied. I’d take choice over having something forced down my throat.

        2. Freedom is lost when it comes to Apple.

          What bullshit!

          You do realize that the percentage of nerds on the planet, the people that want the freedom to rip apart a piece of technology and alter the software associated with that technology, is about 5%.

          Ironically, that 5% you love so much is also making it easier for nerds and normal users alike to get your Apps for free or disable your Apps’ ability to run Ads if you’re not charging your Apps.

          I suppose you like seeing your work ripped off in the open, lawless frontier you call Android.

        3. So you like your Apps ripped off with no payment to you.

          So much for the encryption you brag about in your first paragraph.

          Either you are a masochist, a bullshitter or both.

      1. This developer did– I have no interest in trying to come up with the money for an Apple computer just to develop for iOS, when I have 2 perfectly capable computers at my disposal that can currently develop for Windows Phone & Android.

        I’ve played in the Apple walled-garden for years. I have 2 dead Apple computers in my attic I’ve been trying to get rid of. A 2001 iMac, and a late 2005 iBook G4. Multiple iPods have come and gone through my doors. It’s not that I HAVEN’T stepped foot in the ecosystem, it’s that the ecosystem gives me little that I’d want to keep.

        1. Exactly.

          Why invest in a new-ish Mac so you can develop for iOS and make considerable money, when you can just develop for Android on the computers you already have and make somewhere between zilch and change for the bus?

        2. Um the two computers you just mentioned would not work for iOS and the model years of those macs are so old as to make me laugh out loud. The iPhone was not introduced until January 10th, 2007, and the walled garden your referring to of iOS apps and the iOS app store were not introduce until a year and a half later. The App Store opened on July 10, 2008 via an update to iTunes. Also for your knowledge the original sdk for iOS development was released on March 6th, 2008. And was intel processor only macs. So with the two computers you mentioned you could not have developed for the iOS app store you would need a mac running an intel processor which neither of those two computers did. Maybe for mac power pc apps but never for the iphone and iOS. So again I would say you have never developed for iOS given what you have posted here. I have many friends that develop for iOS and I am currently involved in a few of those projects. If you want to make money as a mobile phone developer you develop for iOS. Google’s own payout estimates to its developers are below 500 million, contrast that with apples latest stats of 6 billion payed to developers as of the world wide developer conference this month.

    2. So this is a personal Rant, nothing else….

      That’s fine, but who are you really trying to convince, facts are facts Samsung violated Apple IP and patent rights, nothing more nothing less.

      And it really doesn’t matter since you don’t see that theft Is theft, the way you spun your Rant and in the following post in response to other posters proves you have no clue or really understand what this is all about.

      What is happening now is bigger then Google, bigger then Samsung or HTC, its clear that thoes whom design and inovate will not have millions of dollars in R&D and designs being flushed down the preverbal toilet when some copy cat comes along and uses its years of designs and property.

      Inovation would come to a complete standstill if others can just steal a design and put their own name on it as Samsung has done time and again, Google and HTC have the same issues with not respecting other company’s R&D and patented designs including software layout.

      Time and again we see that trollers come to Apple sites due to a insecurity, we see these long winded Rants that are so twisted and incoherent that it’s almost alarming a persons mental health can be so effected by a factual Truth or proof that a beloved company or product has failed to meet the individuals expectations.

      I can care less that you don’t like Apple, proof of an obsession isn’t healthy.

      Again, really who are you trying to convince.

    3. @flamingblue8z

      Why are you an Android developer? The payout is crap and and the platform is so fractured that to capture a decent audience, you have to design your app to work with a hideous array of difference Android devices and OS versions.

      iOS has “lost your interest”? Even though the payout is good and facturing is such a non-issue that you can just target the latest iOS version and iPhone/iPad model, and you’ll be reaching the majority of the audience?

      Nah. I’m calling shenanigans. You’re either making your story up or you’re a masochist who enjoys undertaking a grueling development process for little pay off.

      “The mobile landscape was rich with different platforms back in 2007, though they all were slowly being killed off due to many different factors, at the time the iPhone was NOT one of the primary factors.”

      No.

      Over night, Apple swooped down of nowhere and redefined what a smartphone was. That’s why the old-world mobile platforms began dying off back in 2007. To say that the iPhone wasn’t mainly responsible for this is some jaw-dropping revisionist history.

      When Google realized the old-world platforms were toast, they quickly changed Android from being a Blackberry rip-off to being an iPhone rip-off. Eric T. Schmidt being on Apple’s board probably payed off considerably there. This is why Steve Jobs declared war on Android and why lots of Apple fans are mean to it. We don’t like stolen products, mmmkay?

      Finally, if Apple gets their way then other businesses will be forced to compete with them by being innovative and coming up with their own ideas. As things stand now, thanks to unfettered copy-catting, Apple is serving as the R&D department for pretty much the whole industry.

      That isn’t healthy for anyone.

      1. I concur with your statement this guy has never developed iOS apps see my statment above. lol The two computers he referred to are incapable of doing so. And I am with you why go develop for a horrible array of different devices, uses, and manufacturers ui’s and cell provider ui’s. Also the fact that a ton of studies show that android users by and large dont want to pay for there apps they want them free. iOS users on the other hand are willing to pay for quality apps. Epic a huge developer of iOS apps just recently said that infinity blade II is there most profitable game ever o iOS.

  8. First came Apple, then came Samsung. The iPhone with it’s complement of patents drives customer demand. Why does it have to come down to one patent when the package of patents drive consumer demand?

  9. Regarding the contributor of this article, Florian Mueller: I’m sorry, but I spent countless hours on his website reading his opinions about how Oracle was going to kick Google’s ass. It didn’t even come close. So, while I find him to be articulate, interesting and a fellow fan of Apple, I just don’t get worked up over his opinions anymore.

    1. Opinions, that’s all they are, he took the information by both the plaintiffs and defendants response and added a professional insight.

      And to be far, he has been spot on more times then not, he was very suprised at the blind sightless of the courts response to the facts in the Oracle case.

      And the chances of the google oracle case being turned over by a higher court are extremely promising.

      You will see that his interpretation of the information will be correct when this case is revisited by the higher court.

      1. And the chances of the google oracle case being turned over by a higher court are extremely promising.

        You will see that his interpretation of the information will be correct when this case is revisited by the higher court.

        No the chances are not promising. In fact the chances are slim to none that it will be turned over on appeal.

        We watched Oracle’s lawyer David Boies push the same copyright arguments during the SCO trial and that one went nowhere.

        Oracle was wrong the first time they took this to court and all an appeal will do is confirm the same thing – they are wrong.

        Florian’s ‘interpretation’ of the information is nothing more than twisting the facts to fit the outcome he wants. That is it. He is not a legal expert and has never worked in law.

        His information will be no more correct on round two than it was on round one.

        I’m sure he’ll take the time to explain to everyone how the judge was just an idiot compared to his superior intellect. lol.

  10. @flaming
    1. Apple is not in business to keep Android developers happy.
    2. Your sense of entitlement is gag-worthy.
    3. People with nothing to say sure burn a lot calories saying it.

    1. What “sense of entitlement” are you speaking of? I want examples, not immediate stabs in the dark. I’m entitled to nothing more than an open marketplace to make a choice in what type of mobile platform I choose to support. If that platform made a mistake somewhere, then indeed, someone is at fault. But punishment of the consumer is the LAST thing that needs to happen.

      1. You are not entitled to live off Apples IP. Simple. Don’t you think?

        The court has tipped its head towards the FACT that SamDung and that heap of crap company called Google seems to be copying/stealing Apples IP. You are not entitled to use that stolen product for your livelihood.

        Now FOAD. AD, BTW stands for “and die”…..just in case you were wondering.

  11. You are not entitled to live off Apples IP. Simple. Don’t you think?

    The court has tipped its head towards the FACT that SamDung and that heap of crap company called Google seems to be copying/stealing Apples IP. You are not entitled to use that stolen product for your livelihood.

    Now FOAD. AD, BTW stands for “and die”…..just in case you were wondering.

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