“According to a South Korean media report, Samsung’s chairman has asked the firm’s top management to strengthen its software capabilities as Samsung finds itself embroiled in an intensifying patent battle with Apple and after Google announced its acquisition of Motorola Mobility for $12.5 billion last week,” Trefis writes for Forbes.
“We believe that this move is a potential threat to Google’s Android presence as Samsung is the largest player which uses the Android software, and the second largest player in the smartphone market after Apple,” Trefis writes. “We believe that the changing dynamics in the smartphone industry is forcing Samsung to develop and innovate on its own operating system named Bada.”
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Trefis writes, “First, it has found itself embroiled itself in a few patent related lawsuits, most recently from Apple… Secondly, Google-Motorola deal makes Google a competitor to Samsung, rather than the partner that it once was.”
Read more in the full article here.
I’d be talking with HP
“Hello Samsung?, it’s google, you’ve just been zuned!”
Android partner FFS – F**KED FOR SURE. Google apes Microsoft and craps on THEIR partners too.
Gee if everyone has to use their own OS on their own phones and tablets the market confusion assures Apple’s continued ascension and dominant market share providing safe haven. Plus as always the other players don’t have all the pieces of the ecosystem.
Hello Samsung, you’ve just been Googed!
“Hello Samsung, you’ve just been Googed!”
Hello Samsung, you’ve just been Giggled!
There I fixed it for you
I’d like to see web OS survive, and that could be a good match
Bad link to the article
Trefis sucks.
It could be dangerous to the USA if the Koreans get Web OS.
There could be patents there that would hurt Apple in its fight to keep Koreans from marketing any thing that uses Apple’s IP.
Not really… you have to remember that the palm was a cheap, smaller version of the (already existing) Newton. Much of the early concepts & innovation for stylus based tablets had already done by Apple. It is likely that any of the early palm patents (that are still in effect), are either, filed after similar apple patents, or were “prior art” in the NewtonOS (and remember palm abandoned the Palm OS to be a WinCE device so they weren’t really even actively developing the PalmOS after the first few years.)
But the Treos came before the iPhone.
Yeah, but as somebody who dumped his Treo for the first iPhone (on Launch Day 2007), I’d say that there are no Palm UI elements that Apple needs to worry about, and probably not much RF either, since the Treo wasn’t a 3G (or for that matter, 2.5G) phone back then.
The “Palm” IP that might be worth something to Apple is WebOS, for two reasons: One, honestly, on the right hardware, WebOS is probably the second best mobile OS out there (of course, it was created by guys from Apple), and there are some UI innovations in it that might find good use in iOS. Second, because it is good, Apple might want to keep it out of the hands of somebody who could make it rock – say, for example, either Samsung or HTC.
That said, I think Apple’s legal position right now is pretty secure, and it has the financial resources to endure virtually assault.
You know what’s dangerous to the USA? Idiotic Americans.
So, are you Chinese or Japanese?
@ S. Balmy
So are you a supporter of idiotic Americans or rational Americans?
I’m an American expat living in Asia.
Since I live out here and I understand what Asian companies are good at, I can safely say that if Samsung bought webOS, you could safely put a nail in the coffin for webOS. I’m guessing that you guys don’t develop software. If you did, you would know that maintaining a platform is super hard and it takes a lot of collaboration to make a solid platform. That goes directly against the traditional top-down management style of Asian companies. Samsung isn’t even good at making drivers. What makes you think they could manage an OS?
@David Chu
You are correct!
Can’t argue against that.
Linked to wrong article.
Samsung already sells millions of Bada OS backed phones per quarter. Of course, still much less than sales of Samsung’s Android phones, but still significant.
Since Android has some legal problems Samsung pushed its BadaOS more and more even before this Motorola-Google deal.
In fact, officially Samsung and other Android producers welcomed Google’s move since it supposed to strengthen Android legality and allows to make sales of Android phones more reliable in the future.
(However, no amount of bought unrelated patents could allow Android to imitate iOS behaviour, including multi-touch gesture-based UI. So Google’s more is more about investor/PR manipulation, rather about actual legal perspective changes Android. At best, with Motorola’s patents Google will be able to lessen punitive damages somewhat, but not prevent Apple from succeeding in court.)
So I suppose this Korean report is actually about nothing. Everything what was possible to do Samsung was already doing and does now.
Buying Motorola’s patents won’t mitigate puitive damages because Google has already infringed on Apple’s patents, which are different from Motorola’s patents. Punitive damages are posed to punish knowingly engaging in bad behavior and to impose a strong incentive to not do such behavior any longer.
“..,Secondly, Google-Motorola deal makes Google a competitor to Samsung, rather than the partner that it once was.”
Remember when Google was Apple’s partner and not a competitor?
This mobile chess game gets more and more bizarre. Next thing you know Microsoft will attempt to purchase HP so it can revive the Touchpad and Pre.
I don”t see that, I read in one of the articles about HP dropping the Web OS hardware, is that HP loaded Web OS onto an iPad2 and it ran twice as fast, and much more smoothly. I also read where the Web OS team were very unhappy about the hardware, and scaled back somethings they wanted to do as the hardware wouldn’t handle it!
If MS buys HP it will be to “save” their PC business.
Samsung’s only chance at long-term relevance and controlling their own destiny is to develop their own platform and ecosystem. HP realized that they weren’t going to get there with the webOS and decided to cut their losses and bail. Nokia hitched their wagon to WP7 and RIM is sticking with their own proprietary platform as well.
This proves once and for all that this mobile platform war is *NOT* at all like the Mac vs. Windows PC platform war. I laughed at all those who said that the iOS vs. Android war is just like the Mac vs. Windows war and now I’m laughing harder. Well, the integrated vs. modular war is already over. Integrated won.
Google’s acquisition of Motorola speaks for itself. If the mobile war is like the PC war, this would be the equivalent of Microsoft buying a PC company like Packard Bell in the late-80’s. There’s a very good reason that major players like HP, Nokia and RIM refused to adopt Android and why Samsung will now focus on their own integrated platform and ecosystem.
Samsung really has no choice. Android is simply a race to the bottom for the mobile hardware manufacturers with too many long-term uncertainties and outright chaos. Why would Samsung want to compete with a flood of bottom-feeding no-name mobile device companies from China and India with the same platform?
What search engine does Samsung use with Bada? Bing? Bada Bing! I crack myself up!
I don’t care who you are, that’s funny!
A.N.Other said it a few years ago, but I still chuckle over it:
Bada Bing. Bada Boom. Bada Bomb.
With the purchase of MOTOROLA MOBILITY – what’s stopping GOOGLE from providing the free licensing of these acquired technologies in ANDROID to other partners… this is SMOKE SCREENING. Samsung is not forced to do SQUAT!!!! Not yet.
Hey Samsung, I dare you to ‘double down’ on Bada.
HA!
The North Korea should “test fire” its nuclear warheads directly aim at Samsung offices and their executives in South Korea.
if samsung or anyone decides they don’t like google they can take android, strip out what they don’t want, add what they need, change the name and go.
The only power google has is pulling the name android and “android compatible” away from a ‘partner’. If you want away from google and want to use android to do it you can. legally google can’t do anything to you.
Linked to wrong article!
Link goes to wrong story!
Oh boy this sure is getting interesting!
As others have noticed (possibly the only ones who have bothered to go to the original article), the link actually goes to another article MDN links to.
This has been happening more often on MDN, and someone there is not paying attention to what they are doing. It would be nice if they bothered to read our comments so that they would be aware of it.
Here is the actual link:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/08/20/samsung-could-squeeze-google-in-response-to-motorola-deal/
Hi, Samsung? It’s your old friend Google… How do you like me now?