Gone from Mac OS X Lion: Rosetta, Java Runtime, Flash, Samba, Front Row

A number of features in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion “not only won’t be updated, they’re being dropped entirely,” Fairer Platform reports.

“One of the OS X features getting dropped in Lion is Rosetta, Apple’s PowerPC software compatibility layer which originally shipped with OS X 10.5 Leopard,” Fairer Platform reports. “The easy take away here is that Lion will be native 64-bit and Rosetta supports 32-bit Universal and PPC code.”

Fairer Platform reports, “Apple stopped shipping Flash default OS installation with the 2010 MacBook Air and Early 2011 MacBook Pro. Users wanting to use Flash have had to download it themselves. So far, this has been a total non-issue and, with the increasing use of HTML5 delivered video, Flash’s relevance will continue to wane. Similarly, Apple will stop shipping Java as part of OS X with the advent Lion. Users will still be able to download and use it, but it won’t be part of the default operating system install — a nonevent followed by a non-issue… Perhaps least of all the features getting pared back or outright killed is Front Row, Apple’s soon to be erstwhile media center software for the Mac.”

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      1. I agree, it drives me nuts! I did a quick check in settings, but couldn’t find a way to disable front row. Anyone know of a simple way to disable front row, or at least the apple remote?

        1. Macintosh HD/System/Library/CoreServices
          Save a copy of the Application “Front Row”
          Delete “Front Row” from the CoreServices Folder
          To restore move the application back to CoreServices

          1. “Simply go to System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard Shortcuts and uncheck “Hide and show Front Row”.”
            doesnt work, just tried it.
            definitely doesnt work

    1. I used to hit that several times a day. You can disable it in the Keyboard preferences by turning off the keyboard shortcut for Front Row.

      But wait, I thought this was a moron political forum. Why are we talking about tech stuff here?

      1. It is a moron political forum; the tech stuff is just a cover for what dweebs really care about, which is taking shots at people and then ROTFLOLing about it

  1. I’m angry over the disappearance of Front Row. I have a Mac Mini hooked up to my entertainment center and use Front Row constantly. AppleTV isn’t flexible enough and other video front ends like Plex, Boxee, and others are too buggy for me.

    1. I concur… I also have a mac mini with Perian installed hooked up to a 55″ LED LCD and we use Frontrow constantly. I guess I won’t be upgrading my mini! It churns and churns for months on end anyway, so if its not broken……

    2. I am not happy about it either. But to be honest, I’ve been using XMBC for about 2 years now (on the Mac mini) with the Rapier skin and a customised set. I like the Front Row UI, but find it too limiting. Plex, Boxee (both XBMC forks) and XBMC are excellent when not having to rely solely on iTunes. You set a source (Volumes/Movies) and set a content scraper, for instance IMDb, and the app will download all film information, fanart, posters, everything.. it’s truly awesome and for this reason, I don’t really use Front Row anymore. Everyone should try it..

      1. I use xbmc on my atv2 hooked to a time capsule right now and have my movies stored on there. Works great. I have some things in iTunes but most of my movies are in xbmc. That way I get some high quality 720 and 1080 hd movies. Mac mini is ok but with playon on the iMac allows me to stream hulu all hulu content and tons of other sites to my atv2 then built in I get Netflix and then iTunes and all my movies and blu ray rips on my time capsule.

  2. I think front row is great. Mac mini hooked up to a tv across the room, front row is perfect. I would like to see them include it iTunes or something, rather than just ditch it. Perhaps they would rather sell an appletv.

    1. Pairing
      A device can be configured to respond only to a certain remote. This can be achieved by holding the Apple Remote close enough to the device with which it is to be paired, and then pressing and holding the “Menu” and “Next” (or “Play”; this option also increments the remote ID before pairing) buttons for five seconds. Pairing can be removed by holding the “Menu” and “Previous” buttons for five seconds or deactivating it under the Mac OS X “Security” System Preference pane. Only users with administrative privileges are allowed to pair their remote; in a non-administrator account, pressing the buttons will have no effect and nothing will be displayed.[4] Pairing can be very useful because some users who have both an iMac and Apple TV nearby experience issues with remotes working with both devices.

  3. For nostalgia purposes only, I’m a tad upset that Rosetta is leaving us. This one game called “Enigma” was updated for OS X by Freeverse software. But, the original version made for OS 9 was a true gem. I’ll miss that version of the game SO MUCH. It used to call you “stupid monkey” while playing the puzzle game lol! I loved it!

  4. I have only one concern as it relates to Rosetta . . . I spent about $7,000 on a copier/color printer that utilizes a fiery driver that so far has no 10.6 support. So it runs in Rosetta (pretty well, I might ad) . . . so in order to use it to its full potential I won’t be able to upgrade at least one computer . . . . that sucks.

    And before anybody says I shouldn’t have spent that much, the newer models were well above $20,000 and I can’t do enough business on them to warrant that.

    1. My wife has leased both Canon and now Minolta copier/printers ($35-50K each) that use a Fiery RIP. When doing the installation, the tech worked with her to produce drivers for the printers based on CUPS and IP address. While the loss of Rosetta is sad, you can work around your printer driver issue.

      To those who depend on Rosetta for using great programs like the old Macromedia Freehand (RIP, damn you, Adobe), it makes sense to dedicate an older Mac for this purpose. Unlike the trains wreck that is CS5 (which Adobe blames both Apple and Microsoft OS’s for Adobe’s disastrous programming), Freehand, and even old versions of Illustrator (CS to CS2) are very stable, and even on old G4 towers, run very quickly. Unless you have issues with having to be able to open CS5 documents (your counterpart could always save backwards to an older version for you or to .eps or .tiff), this should not be a problem. An old Mac tower, well maintained, will keep going for a long, long time. And the old versions will run fast as well.

      1. If you like Freehand, you’re better off running Corel Draw in a VM or Boot Camp.

        I started with Freehand in ’89 then got Corel Draw under Windows. I wanted to move to Illustrator on the Mac, but it’s abandonware at this point, and so full of design defects and bugs that it’s essentially unusable.

      1. Are you SURE I could run 10.6 alongside Lion with Parallels? That would be GREAT news for me as I use an older program, Canvas X, on a daily basis in running my business and it requires Rosetta. If I could run still run it and have Lion as well that would be the answer to my prayers.

    2. I use Rosetta daily for running my PowerPC version of Quicken 2005. The new Quicken for Mac has less functionality and is totally useless for my needs, so I cannot upgrade to that.

      I hope the Apple engineers change their mind and retain Rosetta for such important applications that many Mac users need.

  5. Well, FrontRow is actually very useful. At least for me. It works with my wireless NAS setup (Synology NAS connected via Gigabit ethernet to an 802.11N router) unlike Plex or XBMC.

    Plex stutters and judders always when playing some movie. Or it behaves life XMBC and doesn’t work at all.

    Is there any useful and working FrontRow-like network media player?

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