“By almost any measure, Microsoft is nearly out of the mobile game,” Peter Burrows and Dina Bass report for Businessweek “Its market share fell to 5 percent from 22 percent in 2004, says Gartner. Customer satisfaction of Windows smartphones is 24 percent, according to ChangeWave Research; it’s 74 percent for iPhones and 65 percent for handsets powered by Google’s Android.”
MacDailyNews Take: Leave it to Microsoft to make Obama’s approval numbers look good.
Burrows and Bass report, “There are a few hundred apps for Windows mobile, vs. 250,000 for Apple and 70,000 for Android. Asked about Windows Phone 7’s chances, Google Android chief Andy Rubin has said: ‘The world doesn’t need another platform.’ Unless, of course, Windows Phone 7 handsets, on sale Oct. 21 in Europe and Nov. 8 in the U.S., blow away consumers as the iPhone did back in 2007. Today, consumers load their smartphones with apps. Rather than tap between separate programs, Windows Phone 7 users will choose from a few larger icons—Microsoft calls them tiles—that aggregate information from related apps.”
MacDailyNews Take: An icon by another name is still an icon. Effing “tiles” are not going to sell pretend iPhones on carriers that have actual iPhones. Microsoft’s Windows Phone ’07 simply does not offer the amount of differentiation or innovation it would need to not be just another mobile OS that the the market doesn’t need. Their $500 million marketing budget may make a dent in the iPhone wannabe market, negatively impacting Android, but there is no reason for yet another mobile OS to exist except that Microsoft wants a piece of the market. That’s why they have to blow $500 million on marketing. We say, go for it, let the iPhone pretenders kill each other on non-iPhone carriers. As iPhone spreads to carriers, particularly to multiple U.S. carriers, the amount of customers available to Google, Microsoft, Nokia, RIM, etc. drastically shrinks. Smartphone customers have no reason to settle for fake iPhones if their carrier has real iPhones.
Burrows and Bass report, “Microsoft mobile chief Andy Lees says Windows Phone 7 reflects his group’s new approach to design. In the past, the company wrote the software and left it to licensees to ensure great products. This time, Microsoft set strict rules. All Windows Phone 7 handsets must come with three buttons (home, search, and back) and a camera with at least five megapixels of resolution.”
MacDailyNews Take: Android Windows Phone ’07. Never do with one button that which you can do with four three.™
Burrows and Bass report, “Building an ecosystem—there’s the rub. The tech world usually jumps behind Microsoft’s initiatives. That hasn’t happened in mobile… Although Microsoft wants to deemphasize apps, it still needs them. That’s why it’s paying some software makers to write apps for Windows Phone 7. While eBay and Netflix have obliged, many others won’t until they see brisk Windows Phone 7 sales. Tim Westergren, founder of the popular online radio app Pandora, says he has no plans for a Windows Phone 7 app. We’ll go wherever we see the volume, he says.”
Burrows and Bass report, “Other factors could prevent Microsoft from having the debut many experts say it needs. Owners will not be able to cut and paste text or simultaneously run multiple apps as they can on most smartphones. While AT&T and T-Mobile will offer Windows Phone 7 devices, the software won’t work with Sprint (S) or Verizon Wireless until next year. (Apple’s AT&T-only iPhone may be on Verizon by then.)”
MacDailyNews Take: We understand why that last sentence has been placed within parenthesis, but it’s hardly parenthetical. It will change everything. It will destroy the Android copycat’s main toehold instantly. In countries where iPhone is on multiple carriers, people don’t settle for Android in the numbers they do in the U.S. where one of the two largest carriers does not have iPhones to offer.
Burrows and Bass report, “Holding share in such a fast-growing market could require sales of about 20 million units in 2011, no easy feat. That’s how many iPhones Apple sold in its debut year. Ursillo estimates Apple will sell 75 million in 2012. Even if consumers were to somehow buy 37 million Windows handsets the same year, that would add just 3 cents per share in profit, says Loomis Sayles analyst Tony Ursillo.”
MacDailyNews Take: If there is an Apple iPhone on Verizon in 90 days, to whom are Microsoft and Google and the rest going to sell pretend iPhones?
Burrows and Bass report, “Microsoft’s to-do list doesn’t end with Windows Phone 7. It has no tablet software that can match the iPad. Failing in smartphones would be bad. Failing in tablets, which users expect to run office software, would be catastrophic, says Elevation Partners co-founder Roger McNamee, who brings up once-proud computing names as worst-case scenarios. If Microsoft misses the market for tablets, he says, the collapse in their relevance to consumers will remind people of Digital Equipment and Wang 20 years ago.”
MacDailyNews Take: Right where they always belonged. Microsoft got lucky with a bad contract once that allowed them to plunge the world into The Dark Age of Personal Computing. No such contract exists for Microsoft to rip off iOS ad infinitum, falsely and incessantly claiming “innovation” on their way to the bank. Apple’s extensive patent portfolio will prevent Microsoft from making up years this time. Microsoft’s success was an anomaly. The made a fake Mac, marketed to a largely tech illiterate market that is much more tech savvy today, which allowed them to build monopolies for a desktop OS and an office suite. Pretty much everything they’ve tried to do on their own has failed; break even at best and usually much worse.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: It comes down to a very basic question: Was the world crying for yet another smartphone OS before Microsoft unveiled Windows Phone ’07? No, the world was not. That’s why Microsoft has to throw $500 million at marketing the thing in a desperate shot to recapture four lost years with superfluousness. The problem for Microsoft is not only that they have no ecosystem, developers don’t care unless they’re bought off, and Android already owns the wannabe iPhone market, but that iPhone is spreading to multiple carriers per country, drastically shrinking the market for pretend iPhones into which Microsoft hopes to break. It’s simply a case of too little, way too late.
… maybe that’s why there are more Muslims than Christians in the world! Christ’s message was, essentially, practice Socialism. Many countries in Europe are closer to that line than the US is – despite the howling of rabid right wingers who claim to be “Christians”. When Christ said “good deeds are not enough, you must believe in me to enter Heaven”, he was NOT saying “belief in me is enough”, but that you must have both!
First, why do you think we prefer to be called “Progressives”? And, if you are opposed to “Progress”, what does that make you?
“Christ’s message was, essentially, practice Socialism.”
Tee hee… Funny how his American followers so often forget that one.
Who Would Jesus Foreclose?
“Christ’s message was, essentially, practice Socialism.”
Tee hee… Funny how his American followers so often forget that one.
Who Would Jesus Foreclose?
Christ did not espouse making the poor dependent on inefficient, big government programs.
Republicans give more to charity and charity is more effective than wasteful, big government programs.
You want to be called “progressive” because “liberal” and “socialism” are known failures. It’s a marketing device that only works on the stupid “independents.”
Hey, let’s call ourselves “progressives” to hide our agenda of failure and make anyone opposed to us seem “regressive.” Gee, aren’t we all geniuses here in Cambridge and San Fran. Let’s have a cocktail party to congratulate ourselves and make fun of the rest of the country!
Christ did not espouse making the poor dependent on inefficient, big government programs.
Republicans give more to charity and charity is more effective than wasteful, big government programs.
You want to be called “progressive” because “liberal” and “socialism” are known failures. It’s a marketing device that only works on the stupid “independents.”
Hey, let’s call ourselves “progressives” to hide our agenda of failure and make anyone opposed to us seem “regressive.” Gee, aren’t we all geniuses here in Cambridge and San Fran. Let’s have a cocktail party to congratulate ourselves and make fun of the rest of the country!
One, those tiles are in Microsoft’s four colors. I hope they can be changed. Way too tacky.
Two, it’s great that Microsoft and Android will be butting heads trying to win over OEMs to build phones with their OSes. More fragmentation, while Apple leaps ahead.
One, those tiles are in Microsoft’s four colors. I hope they can be changed. Way too tacky.
Two, it’s great that Microsoft and Android will be butting heads trying to win over OEMs to build phones with their OSes. More fragmentation, while Apple leaps ahead.
“Republicans give more to charity and charity is more effective than wasteful, big government programs.”
So you’re saying you’d rather see people get handouts than work.
“Republicans give more to charity and charity is more effective than wasteful, big government programs.”
So you’re saying you’d rather see people get handouts than work.
Folks, the permanent government (Pentagon, military-industrial-media complex, CIA, NSA) is really in charge. The elected officials are little more than puppets.
Folks, the permanent government (Pentagon, military-industrial-media complex, CIA, NSA) is really in charge. The elected officials are little more than puppets.
“Let’s have a cocktail party to congratulate ourselves and make fun of the rest of the country!”
I have a better idea! Let’s kill millions of brown people for their oil, minerals, and strategic locations.
“Let’s have a cocktail party to congratulate ourselves and make fun of the rest of the country!”
I have a better idea! Let’s kill millions of brown people for their oil, minerals, and strategic locations.
@C1 – You won’t have to worry about hexes with good ole Moochele Obamamama invoking the prayer circles to “keep the Spirits Clean” around ya! That and maybe Sec. of State Hillary Clinton can gather the old gang and hold another Seance at the White House!
@AZ – MDN is living in your mind Rent Free! I don’t know your political beliefs – don’t care. I don’t know who you voted for President in the last election – don’t care. I do know that you appear to be the first one to post a comment about MDN’s Obama comment that got the ball rolling, now didn’t ya!
MDN didn’t have to go after ‘GW’, ‘GW’ had every other POS tv program, newspaper or hack rag mag to do that! MDN is just a drop in a bucket compared to the Tsunami ‘GW’ had thrown at him. Which makes me wonder what would our glorious exec do if he had to deal with the same, when he couldn’t even take a joke from Maureen Dowd about his big ass ears! He’s all wet behind those big ass ears and that is why his political elitist socialist philosophically Ivory School educated view of the way things ought to be don’t work in a country whose history of coming into being, birth and growth through the years are a complete 180!
@tz – those poll numbers are as fake as that Obama birth certificate… and you have to take the seriousness of my allegation without any proof to back up charge and to 100% of my satisfaction, refute the seriousness of said charge! Isn’t that how the political libs play the game?!
Time to clear out Congress of that ‘Whore’ Pelosi and ‘Prick” Reid… isn’t that how dems embellish their political opponents? Or is it just a Jerry Brown thing? And speaking of Brown, women of MDN, if you didn’t know someone from Adam speaking of you amongst others and called you a Whore, would you be insulted and do you think it is up there with calling an African American the “N” word? Or as Jerry Brown would say, ‘Don’t use the “N” word, Whore, they’re two different things!’
“Whore” – Is it or is it not an insult on the same field of degradation just as when the “N” word is used?
@AZ – I tell you what… When you go on your crusade to get ‘Politics’ off the internet, because the web was so much better without, and get ‘Politics’ off the tv ads, because commercials are so much better without, and get ‘Politics’ off tv shows like SNL, Dave Letterman, Jay Leno, and sitcom shows like Friends, the Family Guy, and ‘you name it’ virtually, because they were and are so much funnier without, and get ‘Politics’ off my damned phone because I signed-up for the GOVERNMENT’s “Do Not Call” list to have unwanted calls but as usual the gov’t doesn’t apply the law to itself that it dictates to the masses, and get those Hollywood Asses to keep “shut that hole in your face” (quote from Cameron’s movie Titanic) when a Republican is in the White House because I’d like to view the Oscars for the movie making celebration that it was, instead of the opportunity to bash a Conservative Republican that it’s become, when you go on your crusade to end all that AZ, I’ll join you in your efforts to rid MDN of ‘Politics’! Deal?!
@C1 – You won’t have to worry about hexes with good ole Moochele Obamamama invoking the prayer circles to “keep the Spirits Clean” around ya! That and maybe Sec. of State Hillary Clinton can gather the old gang and hold another Seance at the White House!
@AZ – MDN is living in your mind Rent Free! I don’t know your political beliefs – don’t care. I don’t know who you voted for President in the last election – don’t care. I do know that you appear to be the first one to post a comment about MDN’s Obama comment that got the ball rolling, now didn’t ya!
MDN didn’t have to go after ‘GW’, ‘GW’ had every other POS tv program, newspaper or hack rag mag to do that! MDN is just a drop in a bucket compared to the Tsunami ‘GW’ had thrown at him. Which makes me wonder what would our glorious exec do if he had to deal with the same, when he couldn’t even take a joke from Maureen Dowd about his big ass ears! He’s all wet behind those big ass ears and that is why his political elitist socialist philosophically Ivory School educated view of the way things ought to be don’t work in a country whose history of coming into being, birth and growth through the years are a complete 180!
@tz – those poll numbers are as fake as that Obama birth certificate… and you have to take the seriousness of my allegation without any proof to back up charge and to 100% of my satisfaction, refute the seriousness of said charge! Isn’t that how the political libs play the game?!
Time to clear out Congress of that ‘Whore’ Pelosi and ‘Prick” Reid… isn’t that how dems embellish their political opponents? Or is it just a Jerry Brown thing? And speaking of Brown, women of MDN, if you didn’t know someone from Adam speaking of you amongst others and called you a Whore, would you be insulted and do you think it is up there with calling an African American the “N” word? Or as Jerry Brown would say, ‘Don’t use the “N” word, Whore, they’re two different things!’
“Whore” – Is it or is it not an insult on the same field of degradation just as when the “N” word is used?
@AZ – I tell you what… When you go on your crusade to get ‘Politics’ off the internet, because the web was so much better without, and get ‘Politics’ off the tv ads, because commercials are so much better without, and get ‘Politics’ off tv shows like SNL, Dave Letterman, Jay Leno, and sitcom shows like Friends, the Family Guy, and ‘you name it’ virtually, because they were and are so much funnier without, and get ‘Politics’ off my damned phone because I signed-up for the GOVERNMENT’s “Do Not Call” list to have unwanted calls but as usual the gov’t doesn’t apply the law to itself that it dictates to the masses, and get those Hollywood Asses to keep “shut that hole in your face” (quote from Cameron’s movie Titanic) when a Republican is in the White House because I’d like to view the Oscars for the movie making celebration that it was, instead of the opportunity to bash a Conservative Republican that it’s become, when you go on your crusade to end all that AZ, I’ll join you in your efforts to rid MDN of ‘Politics’! Deal?!
@ stats. Don’t have a full breakdown – but I think one obvious comparison would be the UK. iPhone available on all carriers – last marketshare figures showed iPhone at 29% of smartphone compared with 25% for the USA. A bit higher, 4% is not to be sneered at, but by no means sweeping the Android challenge away in some bloodbath as MDN is forever implying, especially when you consider the trends show Android growth.
@ stats. Don’t have a full breakdown – but I think one obvious comparison would be the UK. iPhone available on all carriers – last marketshare figures showed iPhone at 29% of smartphone compared with 25% for the USA. A bit higher, 4% is not to be sneered at, but by no means sweeping the Android challenge away in some bloodbath as MDN is forever implying, especially when you consider the trends show Android growth.
I hate all you political assholes. Quit it MDN just quit it. You act like ten year olds.
I hate all you political assholes. Quit it MDN just quit it. You act like ten year olds.
MDN – stop the Obama bashing. I would say the same if (God help us!) Sarah Palin were president. MDN is not an appropriate forum for your political views and it’s offensive. Rasmussen is an arch conservative polling organization. You always complain about polls which distort Apple’s market share in various ways, so while you should stay away from politics that have nothing to do with Apple (in my opinion), at least be consistent about your use of polling if you can’t help yourselves.
MDN – stop the Obama bashing. I would say the same if (God help us!) Sarah Palin were president. MDN is not an appropriate forum for your political views and it’s offensive. Rasmussen is an arch conservative polling organization. You always complain about polls which distort Apple’s market share in various ways, so while you should stay away from politics that have nothing to do with Apple (in my opinion), at least be consistent about your use of polling if you can’t help yourselves.
American politics – proof that there is no intelligent life on earth, at least in America.
More importantly – Jersey Trader mentioned the Big Ass Table!
What ever happened to the Big Ass Table? It was so….well, Microsofty!
American politics – proof that there is no intelligent life on earth, at least in America.
More importantly – Jersey Trader mentioned the Big Ass Table!
What ever happened to the Big Ass Table? It was so….well, Microsofty!
@C1:
“Republicans give more to charity and charity is more effective than wasteful, big government programs.”
So you’re saying you’d rather see people get handouts than work.”
As opposed to what the Democrats are giving them which is?….
Unemployment?
No… The difference C1 is one gives to charity because it is what is in their heart and their free will to do so, versus a Big Spending, Big Government, Big Lib so called ‘do gooder’ that I guess without that big government law or program, that when left to their own devices look at a charity case and tell them to ‘F-Off’?!
And so I guess, if they had to depend on the charity of Democrats… as evidence from the cheapskate Dems of the past that had to reveal their wealth and their “giving heart” when running for higher office… There would be your “Death Panels”!… Depending on the personal Charity of Democrats!
@C1:
“Republicans give more to charity and charity is more effective than wasteful, big government programs.”
So you’re saying you’d rather see people get handouts than work.”
As opposed to what the Democrats are giving them which is?….
Unemployment?
No… The difference C1 is one gives to charity because it is what is in their heart and their free will to do so, versus a Big Spending, Big Government, Big Lib so called ‘do gooder’ that I guess without that big government law or program, that when left to their own devices look at a charity case and tell them to ‘F-Off’?!
And so I guess, if they had to depend on the charity of Democrats… as evidence from the cheapskate Dems of the past that had to reveal their wealth and their “giving heart” when running for higher office… There would be your “Death Panels”!… Depending on the personal Charity of Democrats!