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MacNN reports, “With the debut of the Magic Trackpad for desktop systems, Wu describes a touchscreen Mac as the ‘next logical step’ in the evolution of Apple’s multi-touch support.”
MacDailyNews Take: “Next logical step” for gorillas, if the touchscreen Macs were intended to remain in the upright position (which we doubt they would be, if Apple does indeed plan on releasing touchscreen Macs. More about how Apple might do touchscreen Macs that don’t cause Gorilla Arm here.)
MacNN reports, “Any such system may or may not be “ready for primetime,” Wu admits, but he also suggests that a sneak peek could be possible at Apple’s October 20th press event.”
Full article here.
When as Apple ever done a sneak peek on revolutionary hardware when their was not a government agency involved that would expose the product before Apple would normally announce it?
**** Never!!!! ****
When as Apple ever done a sneak peek on revolutionary hardware when their was not a government agency involved that would expose the product before Apple would normally announce it?
**** Never!!!! ****
Apple owns the whole enchilada.
Multi Touch – The future of computing, brought to life by Apple .
Any unauthorized use is subject to Doom.
Apple owns the whole enchilada.
Multi Touch – The future of computing, brought to life by Apple .
Any unauthorized use is subject to Doom.
Microsoft will go Apple one better, if Ballmer has anything to do with it. They’ll introduce a computer screen you pound with your fist.
Microsoft will go Apple one better, if Ballmer has anything to do with it. They’ll introduce a computer screen you pound with your fist.
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I agree with MDN about Gorilla arm, but I also think Apple will introduce the MacBook Air with multi-touch on the 20th. We’ll see.
I agree with MDN about Gorilla arm, but I also think Apple will introduce the MacBook Air with multi-touch on the 20th. We’ll see.
MacPad anyone?
MacPad anyone?
The codename for their work is called “ipad”
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The codename for their work is called “ipad”
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As long as a touchscreen is a supplement to the mouse and keyboard I don’t see a huge problem with “Gorilla Arm”. Since using the iPad I am often tempted to touch the screen of my iMac. Not for prolonged use, but say to zoom, push a button, drag a window, pull down a fader drag an item to trash I think it could be a nice feature. And, so long as they can keep the price down, if you don’t want to use it then don’t- no harm done.
As long as a touchscreen is a supplement to the mouse and keyboard I don’t see a huge problem with “Gorilla Arm”. Since using the iPad I am often tempted to touch the screen of my iMac. Not for prolonged use, but say to zoom, push a button, drag a window, pull down a fader drag an item to trash I think it could be a nice feature. And, so long as they can keep the price down, if you don’t want to use it then don’t- no harm done.
All Apple needs to do it give the Air a hinge that allows both halfs to lay flat on a table. Presto, you have a computer with a touch screen that doesn’t cause gorilla-arm.
All Apple needs to do it give the Air a hinge that allows both halfs to lay flat on a table. Presto, you have a computer with a touch screen that doesn’t cause gorilla-arm.
A touchscreen computer should look more like a drafting table than a TV.
A touchscreen computer should look more like a drafting table than a TV.
What I really want is a thin-ass table.
What I really want is a thin-ass table.
So, if the “Mac” slips out of the frame that holds it and looks like a multi-touch iPad as you walk around with it, WILL IT BE A COMPUTER!
IDC and Gartner are going to have to really spin that definition to justify excluding the iPad in their counts!
So, if the “Mac” slips out of the frame that holds it and looks like a multi-touch iPad as you walk around with it, WILL IT BE A COMPUTER!
IDC and Gartner are going to have to really spin that definition to justify excluding the iPad in their counts!
Apple created the Magic Trackpad (and Magic Mouse) to give multi-touch to Macs, NOT as an interim step toward touchscreen Macs. Multi-touch ON THE SCREEN is for hand held devices with smaller screens, where the screen is easily moved to accommodate the user (not the user moving to accommodate the screen). I think about 12 inches is the largest usable screen size for such as computer.
Otherwise, for computers with larger screens, the users hands will be at the “desktop” level, efficiently moving just a few inches to control the entire computer and NOT constantly blocking the user’s line of sight to the screen with hands, fingers, and arms. That does not necessarily mean the keyboard and mouse/trackpad as we know them today, if Apple can come up with something better.
I think there will be a major change to the OS and GUI of Macs AFTER Mac OS X 10.7 Lion (assuming that’s really the name of the next release), but the new interface will not rely on the user touching the screen.
The only Mac that could possibly have some type of touch screen capability is this rumored 11-inch MacBook Air. If that one does not have such capability (and I don’t think it will), you know upcoming iMacs will not have it either.
Apple created the Magic Trackpad (and Magic Mouse) to give multi-touch to Macs, NOT as an interim step toward touchscreen Macs. Multi-touch ON THE SCREEN is for hand held devices with smaller screens, where the screen is easily moved to accommodate the user (not the user moving to accommodate the screen). I think about 12 inches is the largest usable screen size for such as computer.
Otherwise, for computers with larger screens, the users hands will be at the “desktop” level, efficiently moving just a few inches to control the entire computer and NOT constantly blocking the user’s line of sight to the screen with hands, fingers, and arms. That does not necessarily mean the keyboard and mouse/trackpad as we know them today, if Apple can come up with something better.
I think there will be a major change to the OS and GUI of Macs AFTER Mac OS X 10.7 Lion (assuming that’s really the name of the next release), but the new interface will not rely on the user touching the screen.
The only Mac that could possibly have some type of touch screen capability is this rumored 11-inch MacBook Air. If that one does not have such capability (and I don’t think it will), you know upcoming iMacs will not have it either.
@C1…I just want a thin ass period!
I bought two Quad core Macs to do some serious DNA sequence alignment calculations (usually takes about 24hrs) and we affectionately named them ‘King Kong’ and ‘Kong’. If Apple came out with touch screen monitors for them then we would definitely get gorilla arms!!!!
Cosmic.
@C1…I just want a thin ass period!
I bought two Quad core Macs to do some serious DNA sequence alignment calculations (usually takes about 24hrs) and we affectionately named them ‘King Kong’ and ‘Kong’. If Apple came out with touch screen monitors for them then we would definitely get gorilla arms!!!!
Cosmic.
I only clicked on this “analyst says” thread so that I could write this:
I do not read what analysts say anymore. They know absolutely no more than we do (and lots of times, less).
I only clicked on this “analyst says” thread so that I could write this:
I do not read what analysts say anymore. They know absolutely no more than we do (and lots of times, less).
Oh I wouldn`t count MS out just yet. I think Ballmer could one up Apple by bringing out a truly revolutionary input method, the chair, specifically the flying chair. With its truly limitless combinations of one handed, two handed under or over handed throws this is set to put Apple`s quaint multi-touch to shame. Think about it, want to edit your registry? simply throw your chair under handed, how about when Windows decides you need a break and shows you that blue screen, easy, that`s an over head King Kong style throw, see? limitless possibilities.
Oh I wouldn`t count MS out just yet. I think Ballmer could one up Apple by bringing out a truly revolutionary input method, the chair, specifically the flying chair. With its truly limitless combinations of one handed, two handed under or over handed throws this is set to put Apple`s quaint multi-touch to shame. Think about it, want to edit your registry? simply throw your chair under handed, how about when Windows decides you need a break and shows you that blue screen, easy, that`s an over head King Kong style throw, see? limitless possibilities.
Mr. Wu doesn’t get it.
He does here –
Mr. Wu doesn’t get it.
He does here –
When we write (old-fashioned pen on paper), our hand constantly blocks large part of that paper. In fact, anything we do that requires a large surface (a desktop, in the original meaning of the word), will always cause our hands, fingers, arms to block parts of what we’re working on. This is simply irrelevant. The focus of our work is almost always at one single spot. When a painter paints using a brush, good part of the image is blocked by the arm holding the brush. Yet, nobody will argue that it would be easier to paint with a mouse, or a Wacom tablet (with pen) device, because that way you don’t block your view.
I am pretty sure, it is just a matter of few years before we get 21.5″ iOS devices (future iMacs), with full multi-touch screen. Mouse is destined to computer history, I have no doubt about it.
When we write (old-fashioned pen on paper), our hand constantly blocks large part of that paper. In fact, anything we do that requires a large surface (a desktop, in the original meaning of the word), will always cause our hands, fingers, arms to block parts of what we’re working on. This is simply irrelevant. The focus of our work is almost always at one single spot. When a painter paints using a brush, good part of the image is blocked by the arm holding the brush. Yet, nobody will argue that it would be easier to paint with a mouse, or a Wacom tablet (with pen) device, because that way you don’t block your view.
I am pretty sure, it is just a matter of few years before we get 21.5″ iOS devices (future iMacs), with full multi-touch screen. Mouse is destined to computer history, I have no doubt about it.
@ Predrag
“I am pretty sure, it is just a matter of few years before we get 21.5″ iOS devices (future iMacs), with full multi-touch screen. Mouse is destined to computer history, I have no doubt about it.”
Neither do I.
@ Predrag
“I am pretty sure, it is just a matter of few years before we get 21.5″ iOS devices (future iMacs), with full multi-touch screen. Mouse is destined to computer history, I have no doubt about it.”
Neither do I.
Me no understand sneak peak at press event.
Press event not sneaky.
Me no understand sneak peak at press event.
Press event not sneaky.
@ LateRegistrant
Sneaky, tricky press, hides from the yellow face in cavernous Moscone center. Eats nasty orcses. Always hiding from the lidless Eye Of Steve.
@ LateRegistrant
Sneaky, tricky press, hides from the yellow face in cavernous Moscone center. Eats nasty orcses. Always hiding from the lidless Eye Of Steve.
@ Predrag
> When we write (old-fashioned pen on paper), our hand constantly blocks large part of that paper.
A computer screen is not a piece of paper. When you use a pen on a piece if paper, the only thing that changes on that piece of paper is at the point of contact; the rest of the paper does does not change, so obviously you don’t have a need to move your fingers, hands, and arms out of the way. And that works fine. With a computer screen, a single touch often affects a large portion of the screen or even the entire screen, so obviously you want to move your body parts out of the way so you can see what you just did. That is a lame interface.
Besides, even if your body parts were transparent and you could see right through them, do you really want to keep them held up in an awkward position, waiting to do the next touch-action on the screen.
Double lameness…
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@ Predrag
> When we write (old-fashioned pen on paper), our hand constantly blocks large part of that paper.
A computer screen is not a piece of paper. When you use a pen on a piece if paper, the only thing that changes on that piece of paper is at the point of contact; the rest of the paper does does not change, so obviously you don’t have a need to move your fingers, hands, and arms out of the way. And that works fine. With a computer screen, a single touch often affects a large portion of the screen or even the entire screen, so obviously you want to move your body parts out of the way so you can see what you just did. That is a lame interface.
Besides, even if your body parts were transparent and you could see right through them, do you really want to keep them held up in an awkward position, waiting to do the next touch-action on the screen.
Double lameness…
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@Wu, @MNN:
“Any such system may or may not be “ready for primetime,”
Quite a safe statement to make
“<Enter your own claim here>” may or may not be true.
Sounds like a prime time news item for journalists without inspiration.
Or maybe it isn’t.
@Wu, @MNN:
“Any such system may or may not be “ready for primetime,”
Quite a safe statement to make
“<Enter your own claim here>” may or may not be true.
Sounds like a prime time news item for journalists without inspiration.
Or maybe it isn’t.
@ChrissyOne
I am sure M$ will “develop” its bigg ass table(t) into oblivion.
When it is gone, Apple may (!) come forward, re-invent big screen desktop Macs as the MacTouch™ and blow everyone away.
Or maybe not. (just practicing to become a journalist)
@ChrissyOne
I am sure M$ will “develop” its bigg ass table(t) into oblivion.
When it is gone, Apple may (!) come forward, re-invent big screen desktop Macs as the MacTouch™ and blow everyone away.
Or maybe not. (just practicing to become a journalist)
Apple have already patented a way to do what ken1w said which will also therefore support multi-touch iOS apps on the Apple TV. See http://www.mindfaze.com/?p=5193
Apple have already patented a way to do what ken1w said which will also therefore support multi-touch iOS apps on the Apple TV. See http://www.mindfaze.com/?p=5193