“This startling admission came Thursday from Peter Orszag, who manages the federal bureaucracy for President Barack Obama,” Swanson reports. “The public is getting a bad return on its tax dollars because government workers are operating with outdated technologies, Orszag said in a statement that kicked off a summit between Obama and dozens of corporate CEOs.”
MacDailyNews Take: If ever there was a reason to have Al Gore on Apple’s Board of Directors, this would seem to be it. Get on the horn, Al!
Swanson continues, “Obama is meeting with CEOs to solicit their views on how to improve the federal government with new information technology.”
“Obama had proposed the meeting in April. CEOs from Craigslist, Facebook, Microsoft, Adobe Technology and Monster.com are among those taking part,” Swanson reports. “Those attending the summit are to break into smaller groups to discuss streamlining government operations, improving customer service and maximizing return on IT investments.”
MacDailyNews Take: That’s some summit guest list. Sheesh. Maybe Apple should crash the gate?
For some real positive change, the government should stop wasting time and money proposing summits that never happen (April?! It’s January of the following year already!) with social networking and employment sites, a freakin’ bloated multimedia software company, and the exact company that ushered in the Dark Ages of Personal Computing, Microsoft, and begin to systematically replace outmoded junky Windows PCs and antiquated Windows Mobile/BlackBerry devices with those that are:
• More versatile: Run the world’s largest software library, not a subset like Windows
• Better built: Last longer, higher resale value
• Far safer: Not one virus, not single one
• More satisfying-to-use: Creating workers who want to work with their computers and devices more and are therefore more productive
Yes, the Apple Mac OS X and iPhone OS platforms.
After all, one of the most successful companies, if not the most successful company on the planet runs on the Mac OS X and iPhone OS platforms. You’d think that maybe, just maybe, others would be able to notice that rather blatantly obvious fact and begin to figure it out.
Unfortunately, the fact that it would be smart, effective, and efficient to choose such a course virtually precludes government from doing so.
“Windows 7, it was my idea.”
Yeah. I told them to stick it up their axx, and out came a turd. Yeah, I guess it was my idea.
Obama Voters:
So, how’s that hope and change working out for you?
This article really captures how rapidly President Obama has fallen in the polls. Strategists mulling whether he should go to Massachusetts to aid the sagging Martha Coakley note that he still has good numbers in the state, but he generates such a negative reaction in opponents that any trip to Massachusetts could be counterproductive.
The intensity of voters who view him unfavorably, or who disapprove of his job performance, is so high that an appearance with Coakley could bring out more GOPers ready to vote for Brown than it could Dems set on their nominee. “Obama is radioactive in polls,” said one senior Dem operative who has seen the campaign’s internal numbers. “Every time they dropped his name in a poll, it was awful. So you just can’t take those kinds of chances.”
The Dems are staring at another potential disaster. First New Jersey and Virginia, and now they’re looking at Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat possibly going to the Republicans.
Oh, by the way, “It’s not Ted Kennedy’s seat, it’s the people’s seat.”
UPDATE: Obama is going anyway.
This is what happens when the weak-minded get manipulated by the media to vote for a misguided ultra-liberal neophyte.
So MDN finally sees some of the other benefits to Al Gore being on Apple’s board…
Steve Jobs Doesn’t offer board positions to idiots or anyone else that can’t bring serious value and value to Apple…Don’t doubt the man.
It’s not ‘hope and change’…
It’s “Hoax and Blame”!
Inefficient and ineffective government starts from the top down… No amount of shiny new fast computers is going to help because you can’t fix stupid!
And that is my ‘PC’ “Truth to Power” crap for the day!
If the Dems are having problems in Massachusetts with the bloated manatee in a suit’s vacated seat, they’re dead in 2010.
Thank the feckless Obama and Dem congress for that.
Four more years wasted, unless it gets the Republican party back on track to fiscal responsibility. If so, the pain will have been worth it.
Go Scott Brown!!!
As more and more programs and software is web based, the actual hardware make little difference.
I regularly access Gov’t sites on-line. The fact that that program has issues is another matter. Point is access by a Mac or Pc is easy with a internet connection. The only limitation is what browser you can use. Some site won’t support Safari. So one starts over in Firefox….
Getting the government to switch over to Macs? Now that is change I could believe in!
Hussein, do it … make the changeover happen on your watch. Then, resign and get the hell out of Washington before you bankrupt the nation, moron.
I blame George Bush’s computers….
I’m sure 1000s of lazy, stupid, ineffective, over paid federal employees have nothing to do with the inefficiency of the Federal Government.
Like the computers in education myth, computers aren’t the problem, it’s the employees.
While the government may have old, outdated computers, the real problem is that they have old, outdated, inefficient, ineffective people managing those computers.
Note I said managers, and not workers. The rank and file has to use what they are issued, just like the rank and file anywhere else.
Having worked on the development of a few government systems, I can tell you that the initial specification calls for all sorts of bells and whistles. As time goes by, they want changes made to the specification, which only slows delivery. So at some point, they start removing features (fortunately, they are usually the features yet to be implemented). Eventually, the system is declared complete, and is put into service.
A lot like how Microsoft transformed the system full of grand ideas that was “Longhorn” into the miserable pile of crap that they delivered called “Vista”.
It amazes me to hear all this ridiculous anti-Obama, anti-Dem rhetoric.
People seem to forget that it was the last Republican administration that is responsible for our current positions on foreign soil and the economy. The Obama administration has been in office one year. What do you expect miracles? That is kind of what you are saying about the dems isn’t it?
Dems have no illusions. The fixes we need are going to take time and some real political will. The current games we play are doing nothing but destroying this country.
Who do you have that could do better? There have been no solutions offered up by the other side of the aisle. Just more rhetoric. And what position would we be in now had McCain/Palin been elected? He is a tool of the corporations and she is an idiot.
Now, since this is a tech site can we stop turning every story that has even the slightest connection to government into a political gripe-fest?
Can you imagine the response if Al Gore got involved and the government announced some new initiative for Mac OS X? Angry rightwingers would cry foul because he’s on the Apple board of directors and owns stock in the company. The libertarians who run MDN, clamoring for Al to “get on the horn,” would be up in arms if Al contacted Obama and produced favorable results for any other company in which he had such deep ties.
Just remember the era of Windows XP and the administration of George W. Bush occupy the same points in time with disastrous results for not just America, but the entire world.
AND unlike Google on windoze, Apple has never been hacked for key intellectual property.
and inefficient, ineffective government computers were my idea.
This must be worth at least three pages of political bickering.
Its the concept that needs to change not computers otherwise all they get is expensive updated versions of the very incompetent technology that they already use. Those named companies only back up the fact that the President and his minions increasingly seem to be all froth and no substance when it comes to making real change. Technology for its own sake has never been the best option and leaders who are talked into throwing good money after bad simply to give the impression that they are committed to apparent change instead of real change are usually the worst of all. The signs so far don’t bode well I have to say.
“Angry rightwingers would cry foul”
Some might, no matter what the choice. Same with the left…..who bitch even when they get their way.
Moderate Democrats who feel ‘burned’ by his stupid AGW initiative probably wouldn’t give him the time of day.
Apple would be better off finding someone else to pitch to the Feds.
I’d say off hand he’s right. I’ve been preaching for years as long as our government infrastructure was Windows based it’s outdated and vulnerable right out of the box.
Spend some of the trillions of dollars borrowed from the Chicoms and buy Macs.
BREEZE says . . . “So MDN finally sees some of the other benefits to Al Gore being on Apple’s board…
Steve Jobs Doesn’t offer board positions to idiots or anyone else that can’t bring serious value and value to Apple…Don’t doubt the man.”
Right!? Al Gore said recently on the ill fated Conan O’Brien show “Al: It definitely is, and it’s a relatively new one. People think about geothermal energy — when they think about it at all — in terms of the hot water bubbling up in some places, but two kilometers or so down in most places there are these incredibly hot rocks, ’cause the interior of the earth is extremely hot, several million degrees, and the crust of the earth is hot “
Of course he is only off by several million. All of his climate talk is pure lunacy. He makes it up as he goes. But he has gotten rich on it – so there is some intelligence there. As for equipping GOVT workers with Macs – totally dumb idea. It would be better to make working for the GOVT as unattractive as possible. Current economic woes are due to the GOVT making private sector Evil while making GOVT jobs cushy, highly paid, and with rich pension plans and total job security. So – this should all be ended. Being a bureaucrat should be nobody’s goal in life. Al Gore is a good example of this
Jessica, amen, sister!
We need another President like Lincoln, my cousin.
and the government has done the right thing when??? Never. They will probably buy $500 computers from Dell. Then next year sometime, we will hear how the Chinese hacked their computers through an unknown Internet Explorer exploit. How sensitive information was stolen. But hey, they saved money on those $500 computers 🙁
Oxymoron of the early 2010s: “Obama budget director.”
You need to call a summit for that??? Puleeze!!!! Where in the ____ is AlGore when you need him????????
I got a great idea: Have President Taxula tell the Fed to print some more money to facilitate payment for bloated salaries, obscene benefits and now, new computers (hopefully Macs). And, and, and, pass the bill on to the people.
So its Obama to blame for all the old computers still used in the US Government?
Their are two kinds of Merrycans. The Fox News morons and the others who can intelligently weigh facts and evidence.
Given how much the gov’t spends on tech, it’s sad.
“Windows 7 was Apple’s idea”
After all- it is a ripped of backwards version of OS X. . .
Mark S.
Your cousin was a founding father?
Soothsayer
That is stretched so thin I can see through it.
How much do spyware and viruses cost each month in our government? Cyber Terrorism anyone?
I am sure they can do a study.
Macs win hands down with just that calculation.
I didn’t vote for you but I like your pluck.
Change the world….
I work for a government agency, and trust me, anything that makes common sense, the government does the OPPOSITE!
i work for the city university of ny and have been trying to convinvce my boss’ to switch the dells to macs all i do is input and send bills to albany to make checks to companies and let me tell u to start up the damn computer i can take a 30 min lunch break and the dells are only 2 years old. they cant handle a damn thing lets not talk about running the internet on them the browsers crash or freeze its a pain in the a$$ but hey dells contract with the city saves us a ton of money!!! but has my department frustrated cuz u know the citys supposed to go with the cheapest contract at times i wanna bring my mac from home and put it on my desk and throw out that damn dell ahhhhhhh
People, don’t forget that Obama is a socialist, and as such he’s used to mediocracy and leveling the playing field downwards. He’ll allow one of his czars to plot the course and it won’t be towards Apple. Acorn is more likely.
Just because the fix for something is obvious doesn’t mean it can be made to happen in Washington. Look at what happened to health care reform.
“unless it gets the Republican party back on track to fiscal responsibility.”
If only… However, it’ll just go from “tax and spend” back to “spend and spend and spend”.
Even when the article isn’t saying anything about political policy, it still breaks down into partisan mud-slinging. Jebus people, it’s about replacing crappy technology in government.
Sadly it’s not just government either, most people these days have better PCs or Macs at home in comparison to the what their employer has, myself included. How times have changed, it used to seem the other way around some years ago.
Anyways, I wouldn’t mind my tax dollars going toward purchasing Macs for government. I have a few friends working for the state and the laptops they provide are horrible, clunky, Windows XP-laden pieces of… you get the idea.
I’m tired of the Dems and Obama cultists blaming Bush for the economy. Electing Obama and Democrats has exacerbated the problem. BTW, the Obama campaign fooled many independent voters and that’s the reason he got in. Nothing to do with the country being more liberal/Democrat. What you we saw in NJ and VA is a political “market correction” you could say. The correction should continue in 2010 with Scott Brown.
The problems we face now are far worse than when Bush was Pres. and Democrast all seem to forget that Obama as Senator supported the Wall St. bailout by voting for it. So stop the BS and quit watching Keith Olbermann, Chris Mathews, Jon Stewart, and quit reading the Huffington Post. The blame goes to them and the MSM for not doing their jobs as journalists in reporting the truth.
Here are a few links that may help you misinformed liberals and democrats.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/view/?utm_campaign=viewpage&utm_medium=grid&utm_source=grid
Again, please stop watching the liberal media and get informed so you don’t make the same mistake.
Ah, but things are looking up for federal workers. Of course, ALL of their pay comes from the taxes the rest of us pay.
“From USA Today: “The number of federal workers … making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% of civil servants during the recession’s first 18 months — and that’s before overtime pay and bonuses are counted. Federal workers are enjoying an extraordinary boom time — in pay and hiring — during a recession that has cost 7.3 million jobs in the private sector.” “The number of federal workers … making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% … during the recession… [T]he average federal worker’s pay [is] $71,206” a year.
“1000s of lazy, stupid, ineffective, over paid federal employees”
Is it really the assumption of many federal employees are less effective than, say, Microsoft employees? Or RealNetworks employees? Or Psystar employees? or Goldman Sachs employees?
Just sayin’. A loser’s a loser regardless of whom he/she works for
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“I work for a government agency, and trust me, anything that makes common sense, the government does the OPPOSITE!”
I work for a Fortune 500 company and trust anonymous internet me, anything that makes common sense, they do the OPPOSITE!
Baseless claims for errybuddy! Amirite?!?
Wrong Again: “”I work for a government agency, and trust me, anything that makes common sense, the government does the OPPOSITE!”
I work for a Fortune 500 company and trust anonymous internet me, anything that makes common sense, they do the OPPOSITE!”
Maybe you two should just switch jobs.
Baseless claims for errybuddy! Amirite?!?
I tell you, i was never a fan of GWB but he’s looking pretty good now. Heck, even Bill Clinton would be better than this tax and spend lefty statist.
We need a new revolution and it starts again in the birthplace of American freedom.
2010! Vote liberal/socialists out! Do it for your future and your kids future.
OK, I’m done.
@kenh
Let’s follow up your quote with another quote from the same article, whydon’twe!!
“the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers. She says federal employees make —26% less— than private workers for comparable jobs.”
For anyone that wants the complete picture, the article’s here.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-10-federal-pay-salaries_N.htm
Al Gore has Zero credibility! Global Warm Kiss My A$$!
Do you really want the government to be more efficient at carrying out its evil ends?
Be GLAD that you are not getting all of the government you are paying for.
Kabayo
@kenh
LOL! No, I couldn’t change jobs with anyone from the government. To do the same job, I’d have to take a 20% pay cut!!! I’ll just continue to work with the high paid losers
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“”the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers. She says federal employees make —26% less— than private workers for comparable jobs.”
OK, assume that is true, although it is absolutely not true in my experience, and I live in an area with a relatively high proportion of federal jobs. I doubt that 26% number, would love to see the source.
But……….the big question. Why the huge increase in federal employee numbers? Why the increase there, and the decrease in the private sector that pays for it all?
“it still breaks down into partisan mud-slinging.”
Unfortunately, yes. If it was productive enlightening mud, that would at least be worth it, but it’s garden variety mud that barely clings together under it’s own misrepresentations and hyperbole.
I long for the days when Congress did a halfway horrible job at pissing everybody off, but still did some actual work for the money they got paid.
Yeah, OK, Bush was bad because he kept us in a bad war and spent like a drunken sailor. So, if Bush was bad, then Obama…
Still in a bad war, except now we’re deep in Afghanistan.
Terrorism is coming back.
Obama is spending MUCH MUCH more than GWB – of course with the help of Reid (Mr. Dialect) and Ms Pelosi.
It’s been proven that the Stimulus didn’t work – and yet he wants to do another.
I guess the only question that remains is how much damage can Obama do before he and other statists get flushed out in 2010 and 2012?
Riiight….
Government is inefficient because of computers. Uh huh…
@byetakecare
“Again, please stop watching the liberal media and get informed so you don’t make the same mistake”
lol – what an f*ing moron.
There is no liberal media. There never was. And the people who think that there *is*, are the same f*ing morons who believe everything that they’re fed.
What I’ve seen of “media” is a bunch of right-wing, conservative cr@p, spoon-fed to total idiots who believe everything that they’re told.
Oh, and stop blaming Obama for all of the problems that that idiot Bush created. Remember 911? Worst attack on American soil ever? Happened under that a$$hole Bush.
Tower Tone, I am his cousin on his mother’s side.
The right wingers dissing government and Obama surely can’t forget the wonderful fiscal management of private corporations such as GM, Chrysler, AIG, CITI group, Wall Street, the banks etc. Yep, no one can do it better than capitalists, right? Blaming Obama for the last decade of stupidity is why the US is now becoming a subsidiary of China and European countries. Macho America goes all over the world with their military spending untold billions (of borrowed money) trying to protect its interests, more often than not failing miserably, while it cannot even rebuild the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina after 3 years. Don’t blame Obama. The decline started many years ago. It isn’t going to be fixed without some dramatic changes and it will take time. Lose the Glenn Beck rhetoric and actually look at what is going on in the world. Adapt or fall by the wayside. Business as usual is over. America needs to adapt and change. The Tarp while only a bandaid is much better than the devastation that would have been created by massive corporate failures. Who would have stepped in to fill the void; foreign corporations. Is that what the Republicans want? Obama is at least giving the rest of the world an image of an more enlightened America and less the object of pity that it has been for the last decade. Oh hell, maybe y’all deserve Sarah Palin.
Back to Apple. Keep imagining and be a good model to other American corporations.
It took 16 day to get our first political thread for 2010. Sixteen blissful days. I guess I should be thankful for small mercies.
You morons bashing Al Gore and Obama fail to realize they’re Mac users. But that’s besides the point. You all sound like those brilliant patriots Beck and Limbaugh. Shame on you! STFU about politics here- as much as I love my Macs, I’d rather hang around a PC-loving liberal than the clueless Obama-bashing morons. Just who do you have in mind to replace him?- Beck? Palin? A religious right-winger? A homophobic sexist from the south? What’s your solution? No matter how much Obama can or would disappoint, to say that under any conceivable circumstances he’d be and will continue to be the least of all evils is an understatement. President Palin? Even ZuneTang makes more sense than you conservative hacks- at least he stays on topic!
The ironic part about this apparent Republican resurgence – we’re talking about the same people who created the financial and Iraq fiascos. Obviously, they’re as clueless as the Democrats. So why would anyone think “they’re the solution”. What a bizarre world of mirrors.
botoncandy and auramac = clueless marxist trolls
keep blindly following along with the state controlled media. you fools are going down so hard in the next 2 elections. can’t wait. you must love destroying the US. Maobama and friends do. Capitalism, small get out of the way government, help for the truly needy all work extremely well and are responsible for the very high standard of living virtually all Americans have. Our poorest citizens are rich compared to the vast majority of the world. you clueless marxists want to destroy the US. Your dear leaders sure don’t live the lifestyles your trying to force on us. why won’t they take the forced health fraud takeover on themselves. because it sucks. reward failure and steal from the hard working, successful contributors is your mantra.
We definitely don’t need another Lincoln, a traitor to the republic. We need a president more like Washington or Jefferson.
about time??? republicans had nothing to do with the creating the financial melt down. Fannie, Freddie, Dodd, Frank, Maobama, Acorn, Clinton, Carter, and every Marxist in Washington caused it by knowingly forcing the banks to give bad loans out that they new couldn’t be repaid and us working stiffs would have to absorb the failed loans in the form of higher costs of doing business and taxation. why are the Fannie and Freddie people getting paid so well and receiving such astronomical bonuses???? they support Maobama and Maobama supports them that’s why. Same with the beyond corrupt unions. the whole thing is mind boggling and sick.
Elephants and asses, screwing the masses…
@Jessica
Ronald Reagan’s average job approval ratings Jan 1982 – Jan 1983 were 43% (Gallup). Reagan didn’t going away, in fact, his admin started the dereg. ball rolling that culminated in the Sept. 2008 financial meltdown (and every intervening dem. and repub. admin helped kept it rolling, too).
The real neophytes: GWB, demonstrated by 8 years of incompetence and bad decisions; Sarah Palin, qualified to be VP or President, really?
Darned fine question, kenh. And I applaud the lack of “leftwing” or “rightwing” accusations. 😀
“But……….the big question. Why the huge increase in federal employee numbers?”
While I don’t have the answers, if I had to guess, I’d imagine a LOT of private sector folks who’ve found themselves without a job (and unable to find work in the private sector) have applied for and gotten federal jobs. There’s likely going to be a swing back to the private sector when the private sector starts hiring again. That’s my hope anyway.
I’m with you, I’d like to comb through her numbers as well to see how she came up with the 26% (is it averaged over states, are there some areas where it’s WAAAAY off that pulls the average down, stuff like that). But my thinking on that is that the private sector has far more retail, foodservice, minimum wage jobs than the government which would naturally pull the national private sector average down (even with the private sector million/billionaires in the mix).
I’m fair and balanced.
I hate both political parties.
“keep blindly following along with the state controlled media”
FOX News is state controlled media?!? If so, the state’s doing a terrible job of controlling it.
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You know, Oblama, people ran government without computer for, I dunno, 200 some years.
Maybe they should get their bank buddies to give them some computers?
Seriously, WTF. Is everything someone else’s fault? It’s been a year and these people are still blaming others. Fail.
@Figurative
“It’s been proven that the Stimulus didn’t work – and yet he wants to do another.”
Where has this been proven? The predictions at the end of 2008 were for something as bad as the Great Depression. The Stimulus is credited by many as the reason a more severe depression was avoided (e.g., writings of Paul Krugman, who in 2006 at the time the housing bubble burst, predicted a future severe financial meltdown without major policy changes by the federal gov.— that meltdown eventually arrived in Sept. 2008).
Micro Me
It took 16 day to get our first political thread for 2010. Sixteen blissful days. I guess I should be thankful for small mercies.
Micro Me, I think you’re being optimistic. It seems to me I’ve seen the hyperpartisanship and wing-nuttery in earlier posts, too.
Reading the more vociferous comments here makes me think of hyenas. They howl and attack anything that moves.
I’ve read the “collective memory” of Americans is about six months. They can’t remember what occurred before that. Sad, isn’t it?
@Truth
“Our poorest citizens are rich compared to the vast majority of the world. you clueless marxists want to destroy the US”
yeah like Haiti and Rwanda maybe. Setting the bar high aren’t you.
Travel the developed world you moron. What western European country has conditions like many of your decrepit inner cities and backwoods rural America with no health care for many, poor education system, rotting infrastructure, but oh yeah the highest paid capitalist pig executives in the world. Yeah the capitalists will take care of us. It is the damn governments and their regulations and taxes that are bad. Let roll back the clock to no environmental regulations, no workplace safety regulations, no minimum wages, no anti-discrimiantion policies etc. Why were those brought in anyway? Oh yeah the capitalists don’t always do the right things. Truth is stranger than fiction.
So tell me where we are now that would be different if we’d somehow suspended the Constitution and kept GWB in office for another term? Please list the damage that Obama has done that GWB (or any other Republican) wouldn’t have duplicated? Let’s have some facts instead of imaginings, extrapolations, and predictions parroted from the Hannity and Limbaugh shows. Show me that you have a brain and use it and we might be able to have a discussion. Keep parroting the partisan lynch mob leaders (from either side) and we have nothing to say to each other.
Question: If the US feds are serious about getting secure, why the frack was the guest list full of companies with the WORST SECURITY RECORDS?!
Hello?
We all know the solution here. And we’re not being snotty by pointing it out:
Hey government!
G E T A M A C !
REQUEST: Would thoughtful, honest posters here at MDN (you know who you are) PLEASE REGISTER!?
What is the point of making fun of non-registrants if they’re posting stuff that makes sense?
MDN: Please FORCE REGISTRATION here at MDN already!!!
Just remember the era of Windows XP….
I don’t have to “remember”. I am a federal employee using an XP machine and yes, my Macs at home are faster. Course they don’t need all the security crap
I am a conservative republican, and did not vote for Obama. That being said, regardless of who is on control, I never want them to be efficient or effective, except in the defense of this country and our liberties.
The defense department uses Macs, and has tried their beat to not use Windows. Thank God for that.
The rest of the government, which wants to tax and spend, should forever be cursed with Windows. That way, I’ll hold onto my money and liberty, a lot longer.
@ gow
Dude. There are military supply depots that still use IBM main frames… with NO MICE.
I don’t care how much of a young energetic maverick you are. One look at them and your morale is crushed.
Come on, lemmings! Make this go three pages!
@Islandgirl.
“Micro Me, I think you’re being optimistic. It seems to me I’ve seen the hyperpartisanship and wing-nuttery in earlier posts, too.”
Yes, so have I, but I think this is the first 2010 thread to involve projectile vomiting.
derrekjerkie,
typical marxist trying to silence the opposing view. just like maobama and friends. you are a lemming buffoon.
@auramac:
+1,000,000
@macdoc
Please, you ignorant, PLEASE KILL YOURSELF.
@ron
He is as “socialist” as Norway, Sweden, and other Nordic countries are. They support a welfare state. Know what that is? Keynes and all of that stuff?
Hmmm, bet those must be pretty horrible places to live, huh?
One of them has the best educational system in the world, other has the best HDI in the world, other used to have the best HDI, and another one is one of the most industrialized AND most environmental-friendly countries of the world (considering the small population)
I’m talking about Iceland, Norway, and Sweden
“There’s likely going to be a swing back to the private sector when the private sector starts hiring again. That’s my hope anyway.
“
Private sector hiring cannot start again until they have some idea of what the rules, which actually can be defined as expenses, will be.
Now the “rules” are being made up day by day. If you own a company, you must be able to accurately predict that you will make a profit by the act of hiring an employee. If you cannot, you dare not hire them because they will cost you more each day than they bring in.
True since the first employee in the world was hired, and true to the end of time.
I used to own my own company. Started it from scratch with no help from anyone except family. When it was just my wife and I, we made a decent profit. From that point, the law of diminishing returns kicked in. We ended up with 5 employees and started wondering why they were ending up with more money each month than we did. Went back down to the two of us plus our first employee, and the 3 of us us did ok.
Due to a divorce, we sold the company, and as I am sure that few of you know, a company is only worth a multiple of what its yearly profit is.
Suffice it to say, at 61, I am back in the job market, and will have to work every day till I die based upon what we were able to keep from that “excess profit” that we realized from the sale of the company.
Some of you will not believe me because, of course, we all know that all business make evil excess profits.
Some of you are evil ignorant idiots, too!
“workers having better computers at home than in the office”
Boy, anyone who falls for that is really stupid!
Virtually every efficiency study shows wasted time increases when phones, computers, etc, are given to employees. Want real work done? Then take away the phone and give them a 1984 style DOS CLI interface to enter the data into.
Lukeskymac, you just go there then luke, we don’t need detractors of the best place to live.
Most people wait years to get into the USA. Like I did. I have lived under socialism – have you?
I love obama! Dont hate him please! I believe he can make a change! Maybe contributing to the idea of making an apple environment in the administration.
Obama Voters:
So, how’s that hope and change working out for you?
I guess in the next election the canadiate running against Obama would really benifit from the “HOPE for CHANGE” slogan lol
A good employee using a computer will increase productivity.
A bad employee using a computer can destroy a company.
But now, the cost per day for either of them will certainly be higher.
So if I had another company, I would always try to have the fewest possible employees, and they would only be the good ones.
The rest, honestly? I don’t care. Hard hearted? I don’t know, just reality.
I was lucky, I had better computers a work than I did at home. But then I did work for Apple ( now retired, thanks to aapl). Unfortunately when looking at modernizing the computers no one will look at TOC, just initial purchase price for the base systems. Having a computer manufacturer or system software vendor on the advisory committee is a joke. If you every heard Bill Gates talk about the future all he would do was go over the projects Microsoft was currently working on. He had no vision, ever.
I’d like to see the advisors made up of people representing the end users needs not the vendors.
Thank God for America – where else would we keep Americans otherwise?
Seriously – you guys have no idea.
“I’ve read the “collective memory” of Americans is about six months. They can’t remember what occurred before that. Sad, isn’t it?”
So true – George and his cronies screwed America up the arse and now there’s a queue of people petitioning to get them back to do it again.
Must be Stockholm Syndrome – love your abusers America.
“I was lucky, I had better computers a work than I did at home. But then I did work for Apple ( now retired, thanks to aapl). Unfortunately when looking at modernizing the computers no one will look at TOC, just initial purchase price for the base systems.”
All true as far as it goes. We were an all-Mac shop. But the real problem as many have stated is that when an employee with whom I have an agreement: I trade my money for his or her time, spends time (maybe a LOT) of time other than break playing games or surfing the internet for personal reasons, the problem really does not have a lot to do with which brand of computer.
Seriously, if you only need a few MS-DOS commands to do your job in the most efficient way, then that is what it should be.
Yesterday, for $35, I bought a slot-load iMac, circa 2001 on school system surplus. Not sure why, just as an e-mail backup for my Macbook (probably my 20th Mac) and I can tell it had almost no use. It looks and functions like a brand new computer. Well, as well as 10.04 can be! I know their new machines have Leopard, so I think they backed it down to original specs for the purposes of the auction. My God, I had no clue how primitive is seems compared to Snow Leopard!
So what in the school system replaced it? Don’t know, but it does not look like to me that they needed to get rid of this machine given how most students use computers in schools, basic Office type functions is all they are interested in doing. They could have kept that iMac in service. They go home to play games on heavy hitter machines. Because I sub teach, I know that the schools are severely backing down on what they teach, only the very basics. This is due to budget, not teacher shortage which is a total myth. There are way more teachers than any system knows what to do with. Round Rock Texas: 5500 applicants for 330 positions, I know because I am one of them.
My original point, 2 pages ago? Way too many federal employees, and why the increase? They do not pay their own way, the rest of us pay, and it must stop.
So Obama’s been in power for how long?
Seriously, George W, his father and friends had years to screw America into the ground and run off with sacks of cash, and some of you are griping because Obama can’t turn it around in a year …
Talk about unrealistic expectations.
Non-Americans unite for the intervention.
W’s incompetence is too overwhelming to describe in a forum post, so I’ll try to scratch the surface on the science and technology issue. W’s attempts to inject religion into science classes via “intelligent design” are the epitome of shameful. He also failed to invest in new and emerging technologies. As an oil men, W and cheney did their best (and succeeded) at inhibiting new investment in clean renewable energy. W did his best to censor any report from any federal agency that indicated that human induced global warming was and is occurring. He banned federally funded stem cell research.
Obama bashing usually boils down to calling him a “librul” and a “socialist” and other bullshit loaded terms. You talk about how “‘Merica is under attack!” Talk about his policy decisions. If you can. Here, I’ll start by saying what I do like about obama:
Some of the things I like about obama are his deference to science in making policy match the facts, not making the facts fit the policy. With that in mind, he reversed the federally funded stem cell cell research. He abandoned attempts to inject religion into science by trying to push intelligent design. He has made no efforts to censor any federal department’s findings. He has pushed congress to increase funding for clean renewable energy.
That’s what it looks like when you talk about policy, as oppose to calling names. Try it.
I said: “Way too many federal employees, and why the increase? They do not pay their own way, the rest of us pay, and it must stop.”
That seems like a contradiction with the shortage of budget in schools, but it’s not.
So many federally mandated positions in schools pull resources from classroom teaching.
So: too many federal employees, in this case of these mandated positions sucking up the resources with no measurable return, cause shortages in actual classroom hours.
Just like higher federally mandated expenses to private business will require, for economic reasons, fewer employees= higher unemployment.
Call it the death spiral effect.
@ Figurative: Wrong. Bush’s spending has far exceeded the bailout bill so far. Besides little bit premature to draw conclusions, don’t you think?
Bush burnt through all the cash that the Fed had, then didn’t refill the coffers, instead giving his buddies loopholes big enough to drive their Hummers through. That money is still smoldering in Iraq, and we’ll never see it back.
Obama went ahead with the Paulson fiasco (a mistake, probably). But he sees the error of his ways and is clawing back the cash from the Wall Street fat cats who are still lining their pockets with ill-gotten cash. If Obama is successful, the American taxpayer just might get his money back.
“for economic reasons, fewer employees= higher unemployment.”
And you can “rotate” those employees. Get rid of the older ones that have been getting raises every few years, replace them with new employees for much lower pay and you save even more. With the job market the way it is now, you can get some VERY qualified people for next to nothing.
Just like the growth of the number of federal employees. Folks who just a few years ago likely turned down a government job because it didn’t pay enough now happily take the cut just to be working. Of course, now what happens to the highly efficient private sector employee… lose their efficiency?
MIke: this argument is getting tiresome, but one more try.
http://nobullnobias.com/2009/12/22/obama’s-deficit-vs-bush-deficit/
Then please try to repeat your argument.
Who is @Figurative? Did I miss a post from someone by that name?
“And you can “rotate” those employees. Get rid of the older ones that have been getting raises every few years, replace them with new employees for much lower pay and you save even more. With the job market the way it is now, you can get some VERY qualified people for next to nothing.”
So what you are saying is that we all should take a pay cut, which would be the effect of “rotating” through jobs while at the same time being forced to pay more taxes and higher living expenses? That is the effect. We just have too many non-producers. (federal employees CONSUME revenue, while private employees PRODUCE revenue)
BTW: I am one of those old guys, looking for a decent job , , who can outwork and outproduce one of those 23 year old snot-noses with one hand tied behind my back. And there are a lot of us out there who were educated at a different time. Hard work was expected and enjoyed. Just give US a chance to show what we can do against the “young” brats!
Help business to keep expenses low, not raise them with all this “legislation”, and we will go to work and show them how its done. In doing so, we will increase the number of people paying taxes, not lowering them by having fewer people working, which is the effect of having more people as federal employees rather than private.
But thats just me, an old fossil, with 13 years of Tae Kwon Do experience competing against some young knucklehead who watch a martial arts DVD last night! They really think you can do that, but they don’t have enough experience to know what they don’t know. I won’t actually do that, its not fair to them, but that is another subject.
“So what you are saying is that we all should take a pay cut”
No, I’m saying that’s what I see happening in the private sector around me (I thought of the government employee angle as I wrote it, and just tacked it on). A company near me is replacing all older employees with brand new people at the starting pay rate (with a more conservative raise plan). If the bottom line is what’s important, I think it’s an ingenious way to lower pay for everyone in your company while keeping the same number of employees.
From the viewpoint of the workforce it might not be the “nice” thing to do, but in uncertain times, you can’t afford otherwise.
The bottom line does have to be important, Lord knows I understand that having been on both sides of that.
But as I said, if I could open a business again, and I don’t see that happening because the barriers and new expenses coming will make creating a new business much much harder, I would absolutely do it with the minimum number of well paid employees who could provably pay their own way. Those are happier companies and employees, too. I can guarantee that.
That is the only way any business, new or old, will ever survive. That is the law of economics, not to mention common sense. It is also (oh, I hate buzz words, but)…..sustainable.
Only businesses which are sustainable (translated as “profitable) can possibly afford to, or be expected to hire me, since that is my situation now.
Heading to Tae Kwon Do class, where the world is sane.
And the connections of Microsoft with all layers of government! It will take more that Al to sway Washington on this one. But let’s hope.
@Truth
Bush caused 911 and your only retort is that I’m a marxist?
You f*ing moron.
That a$$hole Bush, and his cohorts did everything they could to destroy this country – not Obama.
He’s just cleaning up freakin’ the mess they left.
Inneffectual and government are synonyms. New computers, no matter which platform, will not make government faster. What a crock.
@Jessica,
It sounds more like a snot nosed kid spewing junk he read on line.
“This is what happens when the weak-minded get manipulated by the media to vote for a misguided ultra-liberal neophyte.”
You are entitled to your view. Please just express it on the conserverative religious sites that you like so much.
Thanks and good by.
Just a hope.
en
U.N.’s World Health Organization Eyeing Global Tax on Banking, Internet Activity
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583127,00.html?test=latestnews
I’m sure Chairman Maobama is giddy about this one.
@United Nation Thugs
Three points:
1. Stop astroturfing.
2. Stop believing everything the FUX news network spews.
3. Get back to policy decisions, i.e. what SPECIFIC policy decisions do you take issue with? Until then, you’re a child calling names on the playground.
K THX
♫ Can you feel the love tonight ♬
No self-respecting IT manager is going to give up the Windows platform. Most of them have been using Microsoft products their whole lives. Using Windows is as natural as breathing air to them. Until all those people retire or die, the corporate world will remain the domain of Windows. I know all the Apple loyalists believe that OSX is great, but IT managers think OSX sucks and is an impediment to the world of computing. They know for a fact that everything can be done better in Windows. If a Mac and OSX doesn’t fit in with the Windows environment without problems, then outlaw it. So, if old computers and old OSes are stopping the government from operating properly, then blame the IT managers for keeping Microsoft Windows no matter how crappy it is. There will never be any changes made and Microsoft will continue to rule the world of desktop computers.
another fu)(*)(*))king meeting!!!!!!! Is this the only thing this guy can do? what was in the past a community organizer or what??? oh yea he was, gee I wish we had a real president “for a change”
This is what happens when the weak-minded get manipulated by the right-wing media to hate the President they should support.
“As more and more programs and software is web based”
…only for the idiot blind masse that trust Schmoogle with their private data, why not just hand it over to the Chinese and criminal gangs.
Central server computing is pre PC bullshit and a step backwards.
“Republican administration that is responsible for our current positions on foreign soil and the economy.”
NOT!!!! it was the liberalS in Washington and liberal orgs that forced the banks to loan into low income areas, as in gettos, for decades that caused the banking collapse.
@gow:
I’m taking a “break” right now to read MDN because of how speedy my Fed laptop boots up with all the WinCrap Security add-ons. And yeah, hope you notice that its a sunday morning and this “lazy SOB” is working at home with zero compensation, because we care about our soldiers.
@kenh:
Its a “locality pay” adjustment factor, and its a way where Congress is trying to minimize the damage from how they’ve failed to follow the pay parity law that has been in place for 30+ years. Generally, the pay scale doesn’t look too bad if you’re in Kansas, but in higher cost of living regions, its downright uncompetitive. In the Northeast, the adjustment here was +28% in 2009.
@ Wrong Again:
That McNews article is deceptive on several levels because it is only is looking at the last two years. Suggest you go look at all of the pay raises over the past 20 years, including during the big stock market rallies. The only really legitimate criticism in that piece was the NSPS pay system – – brought to us by the Republicans – – which unfortunately legalized a lot of “Good Old Boy” nepotism.
For OPM, here’s the correct link to use:
http://www.opm.gov/oca/wage/index.asp
FYI, it shows that the base pay for a starting Engineer right out of college is $43,883 … and in the high cost of living area of NY/NJ, the big locality pay adjustment jumps to $56K…but a two-bedroom starter home costs locally around $300K, which is more than 5x his salary and thus, still unaffordable.
And while all of the above does help to explain the Fed situation, what most people don’t know/appreciate is that they’re paying for more State/Local workers than Feds. Try looking up how much your local High School vice principle gets paid.
-hh
Three points:
1. Stop astroturfing.
2. Stop believing everything the the State Controlled news network spews. ie, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYSlimes, CNN, PMSNBC, USA Today, Washington Compost, etc.
3. STOP being drone-lemming. Only someone who is completely brain dead would not notice the attempted destruction of the US, it’s constitution, Capitalism, our wonderful way of life, by this gross group of Marxists that only want more power for themselves at any cost and to steal all of the productive, hard workers private property. They would all be in jail if they tried this crap outside of government in the private sector. Why won’t they force this horrific health care fraud takeover on themselves????????????? Because it will be horrific.
K THX
Yours Fugly = Marxist
Why are the Amish exempt from the health care mandate??????
“I would absolutely do it with the minimum number of well paid employees who could provably pay their own way.”
And I would commend you for that! If I started my own biz, I would like to think that I’d do the same, but there appears to be some line somewhere where once you get so big, the new hires get less pay. I’m oversimplifying, I know. I’m sure it’s due to some complex net of federal and intrastate regulation that drives profit out of a business as you get larger. But, just to play devil’s advocate, I question whether or not BIG businesses, given the freedom from these regulations, would pass that down the line or just heap more on the CEO…
Thanks for the info and the link -hh.
” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” /> Many things in life are rarely clean cut and a purely numeric studies would probably represent that!
These “statistics” stories are always written as a “story” to make them more interesting. The downside is that they MUST leave out details against their “story” lest the article becomes wishy washy.
“the NSPS pay system – – brought to us by the Republicans”
I’m sure that there was some measure of Democrats that were in the Congress and went along with that (I mean, they’d have to be, right?). So, while a Republican may have been in the White House, I don’t think it was cleanly a “Republican” thing.
Dec. 9, 2009: Nearly half of Americans (44%) would rather have Bush back as President:
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/12/obamas-december-standing.html
World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece
What do the drones and lemmings have to say about this????
@ClimateHoax
People like you remind me of those who probably supported big tobacco. Yes, just like any other research much will be printed that is wrong or partly wrong. Of the thousands of pieces of research when one is found to be incorrect the vultures swoop in to say that means everything is wrong. You instead need to look at the totality of research. And actually if you read the article you will find that it does state the Himalayan glaciers are receding just not as fast as earlier reported. And if you look at other research about declining water tables and shrinking lakes and rivers in that area of the world you, like the people living there would be worried. As well, what I snicker at when I read comments like yours is that you will deny the truth of anything reported if it does not match what you think. You complain about the media except when you agree with it. By the way the drones and lemmings are people like you who believed in Weapons of Mass Destruction etc.
OT!
Tired of Retards sez:
“Dec. 9, 2009: Nearly half of Americans (44%) would rather have Bush back as President…”
Now there was a REAL president. I was just going over his famous speeches today, remembering the good old days not so long ago:
“I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system.” — George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008
“This thaw — took a while to thaw, it’s going to take a while to unthaw.” –George W. Bush, on liquidity in the markets, Alexandria, La., Oct. 20, 2008
“First of all, I don’t see America having problems.” –George W. Bush, interview with Bob Costas at the 2008 Olympics, Beijing, China, Aug. 10, 2008
“Goodbye from the world’s biggest polluter.” –George W. Bush, in parting words to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as the two leaders looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
Heart warming guy.
gkent, derekloser,
the climate hoax gig is up. you’ve been caught. the emails prove it. just a big scam to take liberty and private property away from the hard working portion of society. news flash – we’ve had global warming since the last ice age. man is not causing it.
you losers can’t stop talking about Bush. Bush was awesome compared to the MARXIST scum in charge now. we will be voting the MARXISTS OUT.
@Derangement (how apt)
Reds! Reds under the beds! They’re everywhere!
MARXISTS?!
You need to go get your tin foil hat …
In fact, what are you doing online? You should be down the 7/11 stocking up …
Get yourself some more guns and ammo too …
I hope that isn’t george the world boater……. Sad to find out you’re a huge liberal-comm and completely out of touch with reality if that’s you.
I thought Obama was supposed to be so smart and “with it” that ordering Macs for all would be a no brainer.
F. Maxpad is the problem with the US. Sick, sick, sick. You need to move to Europe dude. We won’t let our country be destroyed by you freaks. You are vastly in the minority. I don’t care about tits being seen and agree that murder is horrific. Single payer gov. run health scam is such BS only a true moron would be for it. The solution is portability of health insurance to any state. Health IRA type savings accounts etc. This rationing crap you commies are pushing for will never work and will destroy the high quality health care presently available while bankrupting the US. Gays and lesbians can have their own thing and call it something else but marriage already has a definition and it’s not same sex. You liberals always try to force your way of life down everyone else’s throats. You try to stop free speech, take away rights, and steel private property. You’re true evil scum. The US was not founded on your lack of values and lack of work ethic. We won’t let you try to slowly take over our country with this slow, creeping, sneak attack on all parts of our lives. We’re on to you idiots and will stop you. You’re going down in 2010 and 2012. Hope you leave the US F. Maxipad. If you even live hear now.
It is uncanny how the liberals are so bloody hell bent on destruction of the US. Conservatives must take time away from their very busy lives being productive contributors to society to fight this “Maxism” and fight hard. These blokes are trying to pull the rug right out from under America. You Yanks do not want public health rationing. I have lived it and your system and would take the US system every time, ecstatically.
Thanks, guys, you never cease to make the rest of the world laugh at you.
Oh, and by the way–you right-wing, Bible-thumping, gun-toting, free-market-capitalist fire-breathing gay-bashing narrow-minded hypocrits take the cake.
MDN word: “wall,” as in “Let’s build a wall around Merka to protect the rest of us from the lunatics who live there.”
“The solution is portability of health insurance to any state.”
I wish it was, but it portability doesn’t ensure lower costs.
Actually portability does promote competition which does drive down costs. Insurance is meant for catastrophic sickness or accidents. Not every time you have the sniffles. That’s why costs keep going up. Everyone abuses it just like in the crazy, communist health rationing countries. You socialists should bring back your royalty to rule again since you love being told what to do and how to live your lives. Pathetic. Drones. Lemmings. Unfortunately there are a small percentage of these followers in our country that are trying to destroy it under the illusion that their dear leaders actually give a damn about them. Their dear leaders just want more power and tyranny. They want to steal as much private property as they possibly can. Destroy what it means to be a US citizen by legalizing ILLEGAL aliens who they hope will perpetually vote them back into office, and they want to destroy the constitution. Where do you drones think this all ends?????? It won’t end well that’s for sure. Vote conservative in all elections. News flash we don’t give a flying crap what you lemmings around the world think. F off.
Let’s be very specific about blame. And let’s be specific on what the blame is for:
Behind closed doors, everyone who has a Nebraska zip code is given a break on Medicare, while 49 other states pay for the right of Nebraska’s free ride. All for a vote. And how does that rise above the level of bribery?
The Senator from Louisianna is handed $300M for her yes vote. And how does that rise above the level of bribery?
And for union support, all union members are waived of a tax that other non-union members must pay. How does that rise above the level of bribery?
President Bush was not here for this one, folks.
President Obama, don’t be surprised with Massachusetts when you have established an environment of corrupt behavior. Yoda said it best, sir. “That is why you fail.”
“Actually portability does promote competition which does drive down costs.”
All things being equal, one would think that competition SHOULD drive down costs, but that doesn’t take into account the backroom deals that ensures that multi-billion dollar companies continue to make the same profits.
COULD competition work to drive costs down? If the law was written without the input from insurance companies, yes. But because any law would be written with the help of the insurance companies, they’re not going to help craft anything that would lead to lower profits.
Ahhh, everything was so swell when good ole dubya was in charge.
@themotle:
Times were a heck of a lot better then than now.
Obama is destroying this country, purposefully.
Are you one of the 20+% unemployed? Are your grandchildren going to pay Obama’s debts?
@irrationalist
1. Already done.
2. Also already done. (I don’t get my news from any of those places)
3. WTF is drone-lemming? Also, what policy decisions are you talking about? marxism? attacks on capitalism? What are you talking about? Your post (99% of posts that attack obama) reads like refrigerator magnet poetry with key phrases clumsily mashed together. You remind me of what Stephen Colbert once said: “Reality has a well known liberal bias”.
@George w.
What was better about W? Also, your 20% figure is wrong. And if you were worried about debt, then why do you defend W?
W is fail. As are his supporters.
@ kenh
could you send a different link to support your hypothesis? The one you posted didn’t work for me. Also, why link to a blog instead of the Congressional Budget Office?
Rationalist,
If you need it explained to you you must have had a lobotomy. Like the rest of the lemming-drones, aka for you, statists-democrats.
Kelly,
Like most neocons, you are disconnected from reality. Most obama supporters are obama supporters because we base our views on reason and evidence.
I keep asking for reason and evidence because I want to give you a chance to defend your views. Since you never present any facts or reason, I assume you cannot defend your views.
As for statism, I call bullshit on you and every other neocon as you bitch about economic controls, but usually in the same breath will complain about gays or abortions or whatever. That is, you bitch about government regulation of the markets, yet endorse government regulation of people’s personal sex lives and what they can do with their bodies.
Deregulation should begin with people’s sex lives. Oh, and religion and government should be separated and religion should stay out of science and the science classroom.
Until those things happen, you’re a hypocrite every time you complain about excessive govt. regulation in the market.
“your 20% figure is wrong”
For the general populace, the number IS wrong. However, it is coder to being accurate for the unemployment specifically for African Americans. Perhaps the poster was referring to that?
Like Kelly said, if you can’t see what’s going on with the Marxists in power you’re hopeless. Please go move somewhere that fits your lifestyle better instead of trying to destroy our country.
I’m sure I make more money than you do Maxipad. You are one deranged, anti-american individual. You’re probably sitting in prison somewhere typing your pathetic responses. It’s strange how most of your postings have to mention sex all the time. You obviously don’t get much of it, with other humans at least. Probably farm animals judging by your posts. I have plenty of doctor friends and every one of them are 100% against government forced takeover of the healthcare industry. You are a Marxist Maxipad. You also have Bush derangement syndrome. Thank goodness you are in the small minority. Maobama fooled a lot of independent voters. They are paying attention now and will vote out scum like you from from office and get better computers while they’re at it. I feel sorry for you. Your parents must not have loved you, you probably don’t have any friends, and you’re probably very unattractive to look at too. I don’t believe that you pay all your debts. You’re on government assistance just like all of you little Marxists. Expecting us hard workers to pay your way. 2010, 2012 and hopefully tomorrow in MA = Conservative Victory
That F. Maxwell character is crazzzzy. Serious screw lose! Just like the elected thieves in office.
@Wrong again
He didn’t make that distinction. I personally look at the employment figure on the whole of the population. Don’t mean to minimize racial disparities, but the way he phrased it, he was trying to talk about the whole population.
@anyone who loves using the word ‘marxist’
You wouldn’t know marxism if it reached up from the sewer and bit you while you were taking a dump. It’s a word that you love throwing around. That and ‘socialist’ and ‘communist’. You idiots drape yourselves in the american flag and then circle jerk each other to the latest FUX news soundbite. You’ve been brain damaged by years of watching glenn beck and bill oreilly. You no longer have the ability to think independently. That’s why you can’t attack a single obama policy nor defend a single bush policy, except by calling obama a marxist ad infinum. You are no longer capable of discussing facts or evidence. You only read, listen to, and watch things that confirm what you already believe or think you know. Anything that disagrees with it must be the work of the ‘libruls’ who are working the trrrists. You’re weak minded and servile, capable only of duck speak.
If W was so good at economics, then why did he usher in the worst economic crisis since the great depression?
OH, and once again I call bullshit on you for bitching about government regulation of the market while attempting to regulate people’s personal sex lives, what they can do with their bodies, etc. Why don’t you deregulate people’s sex lives first? And keep religion out of science classes and government.
Perfect example of your typical liberal-comm demorat:
Ed Schultz: I’d cheat to keep Brown from winning
http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/16/ed-schultz-id-cheat-keep-brown-winning/
@Cheater
If you knew you could GUARANTEE that Brown would win if you cheated, would you? Think about what that would mean, the end of the oppressive Obama regime, pretty much the first lame duck President after only two years, and default control of government to only what the Republicans want to do.
If you could wake up Wednesday morning knowing that all this would be true, but ONLY if you cheated, would you? The problem with extremists from the left and the right is that BOTH are not beneath cheating if it means they win.
@NickNY
“I’m sure I make more money than you do Maxipad.”
How much do you get paid for blowjobs in men’s rooms (a GOP favorite, I hear)? I just build and test satellites, so I may not get the kind of money that you do. HAHAHA!
SO I ASKED YOU A QUESTION: HOW LONG HAVE YOU HELD DOWN A JOB? Did you hear me this time?
“It’s strange how most of your postings have to mention sex all the time.”
This coming from someone who resorted to a grade-school insult in which he perverted my name to sound like a feminine hygiene product. You started that aspect of this, so don’t try to blame that on me, moron.
“I have plenty of doctor friends and every one of them are 100% against government forced takeover of the healthcare industry.”
Of course they are, you retarded piece of shit. They like people having to pay a fortune for health care. They don’t want costs controlled and health care to be affordable. Drug lords in Mexico don’t want their government cracking down on them, either. What a f**king surprise!
You’re just another coward with a keyboard, scared to come out of your parents’ basement. You get to hang out down there and pretend to be a tough guy on the Internet. Good luck with that.
@Kate: Please use birth control. If you get pregnant, get an abortion or put the child up for adoption. We don’t need idiots like you raising children.
There sure is a monstrous display of stupid in most of these posts.
Rationalist is just as nuts as F. Maxwell. Everyone knows that it is completely the democratically controlled congress that caused the economic meltdown and that Marxist Maobama is purposely making it as bad as he can so he can break the system and totally “remake” and destroy the US as we know it. Go Scott Brown. Let’s put a stop to this unconstitutional healthcare takeover. Let’s lame duck Maobama!
And Maren T was compelled to deftly illustrate my point.
F. Maxwell = Pervert
Bye Bye health care fraud takeover! Hello Scott Brown! Put that in your crack pipe and smoke Faxwell and scum. Get ready for more and more of it! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!
F. Maxwell builds satellites in his dreams. I agree with the other poster that he’s posting from prison somewhere………
Jenny wrote “F. Maxwell = Pervert”
And your point? LOL
Kendall wrote “F. Maxwell builds satellites in his dreams.”
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/people/index.asp
Feeling silly now?
I’m sorry F. Maxwell. You were telling the truth. You are a government union employee. It all makes sense now……