&ot”The homeless cat problem in Santa Clara County [California] went global Tuesday: Apple Computer co-founder Steve Wozniak launched a video on YouTube.com about the estimated 125,000 stray and feral cats here and urged people to get involved,” Linda Goldston reports for The San Jose Mercury News. “His video introduces a film trailer about the ‘Cats Without a Home’ documentary, produced last year by Humane Society Silicon Valley.”
Humane Society of Silicon Valley – Cats Without a Home with Steve Wozniak:
Goldston continues, “The computer whiz urges viewers of the video to go to the www.hssv.org site to order the 30-minute documentary and learn how they can help homeless cats in their neighborhoods. Copies of the DVD film are $15 each.”
Full article here.
Don’t forget to have your pets spayed or neutered! Good bye everybody!
Has anyone seen Kathy Griffin lately?
The Woz just can’t handle all of the pussy, er, cats.
Woz had to prove that Leopard isn’t the only hot pussy out there.
Gas the fleabags.
The ever quirky Woz saved a few for himself. He had their teeth removed and then let them have their way with him after bathing in tuna juice. Watch for it on YouTube.
He’s also secretly training a talented handful of them to play Segway polo.
Champions, chomps on. Potato, po-taht-o.
@steve
“Gas the fleabags.”
As a cat lover and home to six cats myself I can honestly say you are a pathetic excuse for a human being.
Woz, you rock dude!!!
next to Bill Gates Woz has got to be the biggest Dweeb on the planet
Para-Racoon, “As a cat lover and home to six cats myself I can honestly say you are a pathetic excuse for a human being.”
I have a neighbor who has 12 cats. Her house stinks and she’s wondering why it won’t sell. Outside cats are fine, just don’t feed them. That’s why God made mice.
I hope little Max doesn’t get too comfortable – Woz is looking at that thing like a little cartoon chicken leg…
I hate cats – they’re shit.
Like San Francisco “compassionately” tried a few years back, these homeless cats should be given shopping carts to make it easier to move their kibble around town.
Ooh, you can so tell the cat haters on here. Cats are very clean animals by nature Ron, I think the issue is having so many in one place. If they don’t get on very well they will mark territory by spraying. If you have one or only a few that are neutered or spayed they have plenty of space and get the chance to establish territory and as a result they will not spray to mark. They use scent glands in their face which have absolutely no discernible odour unless you are a cat.
Our house doesn’t smell bad and we have six cats. Cats hate messy places too. They like to know where everything is in case they are attacked and need to make a quick escape.
Anyone who hates cats is just a dumb bigot. its like saying you hate dogs because one bad tempered dog bit you once.
Cat haters just like dog haters are just ignorant and stupid. A bit like a racist really. They hate things they don’t understand or have no real familiarity with. Dirty pierre, I aimed that one at you butt head!!!
You can tell a lot about someone from how they treat animals, not just dogs and cats.
It’s true.
I have nothing against cats in the home that people own. My problem lies with feral cats or domestic cats that are allowed outside. I grow plants in the yard designed to attract wildlife as food ot shelter, the wildlife in turn attracts cats. You love cats? Good for you, do something about it by keeping them indoors. Cuz I’m pretty damn talented with traps.
“Cat haters just like dog haters are just ignorant and stupid. A bit like a racist really. They hate things they don’t understand or have no real familiarity with. Dirty pierre, I aimed that one at you butt head!!!”
What if we have familiarity with cats, understand them, and still don’t like them? Or is this one of those cases where you insist that if we had ENOUGH familiarity with them and TRULY understood them that we would love them as much as you?
Don’t you worry, I (or rather my flowerbeds) am very familiar with the little fish eating shitheads.
El Gato beuno es el gato meurto.
There, I said it.
Uh, shouldn’t Woz be helping homeless humans first? Same with Gates, what the hell’s the Africa thing about? There are plenty of people in the US who need help. I am truly amazed by so-called smart people’s priorities.
The absolute WORST animal to let loose is the CHICKEN
Cats are not a bother usually, as long as you don’t feed them they will not hang around.
But chickens can live off of dam near anything, the roosters sit in your trees and crow at the street lights all night.
What’s worse is all the Crazy Chicken People who take a liking to them and feed them huge bags of grain daily.
Poison doesn’t work, because the Chicken People now have taken a liking to them and import new baby chicks and turn them loose. The Chicken People get in the government, vote laws to protect their chickens and take you to jail for erradicating them from your property.
The chickens scratch your cars, crap on dam near everything, tear up your flowerbeds and yards looking for bugs.
YOU want to declare WAR on your city or town? Get chickens.
Chickens are just about impossible to eradicate, sound devices doesn’t work, various smells and cocktails doesn’t work.
As long as there is water around, chickens will hang around, despite what you do to them. It really takes a lot of effort to reduce their numbers, then they seem to reappear as if overnight.
Chickens are easily bought in masse as peepers and turned loose near a water source and vegatation.
YOU WILL CREATE HELL!!
I just watched the video. Man, I thought I was putting on weight. Holy crap! Woz, push away from the dinner table, please. You’re going to crush poor Kathy.
At the end he looks like Dr. Evil, petting the kitty. Ah, the rich are not like us.
More seriously, his “campaign” is doomed to failure, as it addresses effects. If he really wanted to help, he should pledge financial support for free or low cost spay and neutering programs.
Cats are a growing problem, I believe cats should be subject to the same rules and restrictions as dogs.
I know this is politically incorrect… but…
Both Feral cats & (the few) feral dogs in this country need to be ELIMINATED.
The cats in particular have taken a toll on the small wildlife from birds & indigenous rodents to eating bobcats out of their ranges.
See the link below if you don’t believe me…
http://www.unitedwildlife.com/AnimalsFeralCat.html
(United Wildlife dot com)
Or just Goole “Feral Cat damage”
Politically incorrect, but with integrity intact,
John
Cats are easy to contol
Baited fish in large, multi-entry traps located all over the city.
The only problem is people tend to see the cats in the trap and let them loose.
So a guard has to be posted on each trap site and this is where it costs plenty.
Once the cats are caught, they make a nice dinner, skin like you would a rabbit.
Hmmmm feral cats *drools*
I have it on strong authority that these cats may be containing explosive devices ready to go off at the detonator’s discretion. At a predetermined time, a subcutaneous packet of catnip extract will be released into the bloodstream. At the mercy of its effects, the out of control cats will scatter across the land, then blow up without warning, decimating acres and acres of sand boxes across the US.
Do your part. Go get some duck tape. That sh*t fixes everything.
I have cats. All from feral litters.
Feral cats and dogs are definitely a problem (I’m more familiar with cats). But the initial problem in my neighborhood stems from people not taking care of their own animals. Those people are the real problem. They don’t have them fixed and often move leaving the animals behind – especially cats. They seem to think that cats can live in the “wild city” on their own – they can’t no matter what they think – and they do no better from being dropped off in the country. People that treat dogs and cats that way are the real animals and need to be “eliminated”.
“Crazy Chicken People”
Thanks. I finally think I understand northern Pakistan.
Gas the dogs, too. Or, at the very least, don’t feed them.
It is funny though. Seriously, wasn’t it some dumbf#ck Catholic priest who had all the cats killed in some German town and then the town was wiped out by disease?
O would gas Steve instead.
And that Dirty Pierre may call himself a punk but he’s just an emoshit.
At least Santa Clara County doesn’t have rat problem with that many cats. For too many cats there is basically one solution, trap them and get them spayed and neutered, let them loose and the problem goes away over the years.
Check this out and learn something http://www.littlebluesociety.org/685272.html
Sorry cat fans, feral cats smell like hell and create all sorts of problems. We’ve got dozens running around our neighborhood and I was just poking around the internet yesterday trying to figure out who to call to put them down.
Cats may not be rats, but they’re still animals. I’m with Steve on this one (commenter, not Woz).
P.S. Is Woz cross-eyed?
Ok… so now were arguing and flaming each-other over MANGY STRAY CATS?!?!
MDN, perhaps it’s time to scrap the feedback altogether.
This site has hit a new fscking low. Will the last sane reader please turn the lights out…
I know a homeless cat named leopard that I can give a home to.
OHHHH BA DUH DUM DUM!!
I love tech humor
I read a rumor that Woz took a dump this morning.
And wasn’t there a wild cat in the original Charlie’s Angels?
I think her name was Feral Fawcett.
@Tommy Boy: Call me, I can help you learn Spanish. Besides, I’ve missed you.
Domestic cats are environmental disasters.
The only good cat is a dead cat.
I wonder how many of these people who wet their panties over these cats are all for “The Right to Choose”? What a pleasant way to word that little endeavor.
So who counted the 125,000 cats anyway? I like how it’s always nice round numbers. Very convenient.
I like all animals, including cats, but they need to quit screwing around and eliminate the darn things. They aren’t an endangered species. And beat the crap out of the simple minded idiots who feed these things. I had a senile neighbor who would put out bread and even raw meat for anything that would eat it. We had raccoons, possums, and skunks all over the place every night. Nothing like waking up to the stench from a friggin’ skunk filling up your whole house. Plus having to worry about rabies.
Guess I must be one of those “pathetic excuses for a human being”.
Woz is on trajectory to becoming less relevant and a bloted hot air bag of yesterdays glory.
He needs to shut up and just disappear. He is used up, time has passed him by.
He is embarassing himself and his legacy.
I have no issues with cats or dogs and (having own several dogs and a couple of cats) generally get along fine with both. Oddly, cats seem to take aliking to me without any overt activity on my part. Maybe it’s because the attitude I have towards cats is the attitude the cats have towards people… barely tolerent indifference with a touch of condecension.
However, I do not have a pet currently, nor intentions to ever own one again.
A married couple I know are “sort of” engaged in the cat rescue business here in Arizona. It started with a stray that showed up in their backyard that they started feeding, and now they have more a dozen at any one time. They enclosed their patio with screening to give the cats a sheltered area and only a particular half dozen are allowed inside the home. Every cat that appears is spayed or neutered, but pregnant ones keep showing up. Gee…I wonder why??
Even though the house is otherwise spotless and none of the cats spray indoors, the house still smells bad enough that I avoid visiting as much as possible, and when I must, I keep my visits as short as good manners require. Being mildly allergic helps as an excuse. Oddly enough, the husband is very allergic and has to have allergy shots and other medication.
Their situation is all quite foolish, IMHO, as even with some financial help from an employed grown son who has returned to the nest, they barely manage to make ends meet. The stray that started their “Save the Cats” crusade had health issues requiring recurring medical care that eventually totaled over $5,000 and died after several months. They wanted to try to save it even though the vet recommended putting it to sleep when they first brought it in. Another cat developed health problems the following year and had to be to sleep…after several (expensive) visits to the same vet (who, by now, probably recognized a cash cow).
Between all the expenses for feeding these animals and the medical care each cat has received, plus the husbands related allergy medical expenses, and enclosing their patio, they have probably spent at least $50,000 over the last 5 years. And they have never stopped complaining about their finances, which were never that great to start with. I’ve suggested they get rid of 98% of the cats, but they are too emotionally attached. I love these people dearly, but IMO it’s time they grew some brains.
BTW, except for one possible exception, all of these cats were approachable when they appeared…meaning there weren’t truely feral, but neighborhood animals. They live a densely packed, residential suburb where homes are on quarter acre (if that) lots, and everyone in the neighborhood knows what they are doing. Only a couple of residents ever came by to claim a pet.
The real issue with feral cats isn’t cats, it’s people. People who want the joy of a pet, but then abdicate their pet ownership responsibilities. And it won’t be solved by other people taking over those responsibilities.
Enforce pet licensing laws and (I hate to say this) enact some new legislation. Make it illegal to give away or sell puppies/kittens, except by licensed breeders/pet shops. If your pet has offspring you must give/sell them to a breeder/pet store, neuter them if you keep them, or they must be disposed of. Require that all animals sold/given away by breeders/pet stores for non breeding purposes (“pets”) be spayed/neutered before new owners can take possession…don’t leave this up to new owners to do when they feel it’s convenient. We already know the results.
Expand some animal control functions to the police. Have cops ticket owners of unlicensed animals, especially those not on leases or roaming free. Have police tag roaming animals whenever they spot them (using RFID tags shot from air guns like those for tranking wild animals), so they can be traced back to their owners. Enact legislation similar to “dumb motorist” laws that fines owners to recover costs. And to help finance things, let’s start licensing animals the way we do vehicles…with expiring tags that have to be renewed every year or two.
And, FWIW, if these sort of things did become law, the state should offer humane (non-asphixiation) disposal services at no charge to owners with unwanted kittens/puppies.
Four legged wizards of Satan – all of ’em.
“Hmmmm feral cats *drools*”
That aint chicken in your chicken chow mien.
See:
http://www.cobaltflash.com/displaycontent.php?name=Cat's_in_the_Kettle
Try this one:
http://www.kanyak.com/ckettle.html
Don’t champion feral cats!
EAT THEM
Lost your feral cat?
LOOK UNDER MY TIRES!!
“Cats are very clean animals by nature”
CLEAN? They freaking cover themselves with their spit on a continuous basis.
They’re ambulatory allergens that flock to the sound of a sneeze. What we need are shotguns and an ample supply of bird shot.
” Make it illegal to give away or sell puppies/kittens, except by licensed breeders/pet shops. “
I hate cats as much as anyone does, but this idea of yours is asinine. You are proposing to make it illegal to take a free pet. Try thinking this through.
-jcr
I remember reading awhile back that Mac users are on average smarter than the average PC user. This thread proves that Apple must be gaining market-share as half the people posting are dumber than a bag of nails. Finally, the stupid and ignorant are buying Macs.
Expand some animal control functions to the police. Have cops ticket owners of unlicensed animals, especially those not on leases or roaming free. Have police tag roaming animals whenever they spot them
This might work… in Mayberry.
Unfortunately, most police departments are already badly harried and unable to keep up with real crimes. Nuisance cats aren’t going to be a priority.
As for the relevance to Apple? I have no idea. Maybe MDN should run news on Skulley and Spindler too.
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Hey, I’d like a little stray pu$$y myself….
MW:lead (Pb), as in what can control this
Let’s remember all the homeless people, too!
Good point, KenC-
Let’s feed them cat!
If anyone has a rational disagreement with anything I say, that’s fine. Name calling, however, is usually a clear indication of a lack of adult reasoning ability, as such activity is typically the domain of children.
“Unfortunately, most police departments are already badly harried and unable to keep up with real crimes. Nuisance cats aren’t going to be a priority.”
I’m not talking felonies here. These would be logical extensions of existing laws involving nuisance pets (barking dogs, etc.) that tend to be misdomeanor offenses that typically result in citations/fines and are already covered by police activities.
Use a little imagination here, folks. Not to mention common sense.
Try thinking outside the (cat)box.
If anyone has a rational disagreement with anything I say, that’s fine. Name calling, however, is usually a clear indication of a lack of adult reasoning ability, as such activity is typically the domain of children.
“Unfortunately, most police departments are already badly harried and unable to keep up with real crimes. Nuisance cats aren’t going to be a priority.”
I’m not talking felonies here. These would be logical extensions of existing laws involving nuisance pets (barking dogs, etc.) that tend to be misdomeanor offenses that typically result in citations/fines and are already covered by police activities.
Use a little imagination here, folks. Not to mention common sense.
Try thinking outside the (cat)box.
If anyone has a rational disagreement with anything I say, that’s fine. Name calling, however, is usually a clear indication of a lack of adult reasoning ability, as such activity is typically the domain of children.
“Unfortunately, most police departments are already badly harried and unable to keep up with real crimes. Nuisance cats aren’t going to be a priority.”
I’m not talking felonies here. These would be logical extensions of existing laws involving nuisance pets (barking dogs, etc.) that tend to be misdomeanor offenses that typically result in citations/fines and are already covered by police activities.
Use a little imagination here, folks. Not to mention common sense.
Try thinking outside the (cat)box.
If anyone has a rational disagreement with anything I say, that’s fine. Name calling, however, is usually a clear indication of a lack of adult reasoning ability, as such activity is typically the domain of children.
“Unfortunately, most police departments are already badly harried and unable to keep up with real crimes. Nuisance cats aren’t going to be a priority.”
I’m not talking felonies here. These would be logical extensions of existing laws involving nuisance pets (barking dogs, etc.) that tend to be misdomeanor offenses that typically result in citations/fines and are already covered by police activities.
Use a little imagination here, folks. Not to mention common sense.
Try thinking outside the (cat)box.
If anyone has a rational disagreement with anything I say, that’s fine. Name calling, however, is usually a clear indication of a lack of adult reasoning ability, as such activity is typically the domain of children.
“Unfortunately, most police departments are already badly harried and unable to keep up with real crimes. Nuisance cats aren’t going to be a priority.”
I’m not talking felonies here. These would be logical extensions of existing laws involving nuisance pets (barking dogs, etc.) that tend to be misdomeanor offenses that typically result in citations/fines and are already covered by police activities.
Use a little imagination here, folks. Not to mention common sense.
Try thinking outside the (cat)box.
I can not let the subject of Animal Rights on MDN go with out any input.
Feral cats are devastating for native fauna. No one can argue with that. Here in Australia, they are wiping out the indigenous wildlife, at a staggering rate.
Having said that –
Mankind’s approbation and mind-numbing apathy to the suffering and pain of animals is depraved and immoral, it is the foundation that man has built its contempt for fellow human beings.
Think different – The following quotes about cats, but mainly about Animal Rights, are from some of the most esteemed thinkers to have ever “thunk”.
Most are profound, philosophical, poignant and need serious “thunking” about.
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No heaven will not ever Heaven be
Unless my cats are there to welcome me.
~Author Unknown
When a cat speaks, it’s because it has something to say, unlike humans who are the great refuse containers of speech. ~V.L. Allineare
Life is life – whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man’s own advantage. ~Sri Aurobindo
Look deep into the eyes of any animal, and then for a moment, trade places, their life becomes as precious as yours and you become as vulnerable as them. Now smile if you believe all animals deserve our respect and our protection, for in a way, they are us, and we are them.” ~ Philip Ochoa
When I was twelve, I went hunting with my father and we shot a bird. He was laying there and something struck me. Why do we call this fun to kill this creature [who] was as happy as I was when I woke up this morning. ~Marv Levy
I have been studying the traits and dispositions of the “lower animals” (so called) and contrasting them with the traits and dispositions of man. I find the result humiliating to me. ~Mark Twain, Letters from the Earth, 1907
The question is not, “Can they reason?” nor, “Can they talk?” but rather, “Can they suffer?” ~Jeremy Bentham
In an earlier stage of our development most human groups held to a tribal ethic. Members of the tribe were protected, but people of other tribes could be robbed or killed as one pleased. Gradually the circle of protection expanded, but as recently as 150 years ago we did not include blacks. So African human beings could be captured, shipped to America and sold. In Australia white settlers regarded Aborigines as a pest and hunted them down, much as kangaroos are hunted down today. Just as we have progressed beyond the blatantly racist ethic of the era of slavery and colonialism, so we must now progress beyond the speciesist ethic of the era of factory farming, of the use of animals as mere research tools, of whaling, seal hunting, kangaroo slaughter and the destruction of wilderness. We must take the final step in expanding the circle of ethics. ~Pete Singer
Personally, I would not give a fig for any man’s religion whose horse, cat and dog do not feel its benefits. Life in any form is our perpetual responsibility. ~S. Parkes Cadman
Ever occur to you why some of us can be this much concerned with animals suffering? Because government is not. Why not? Animals don’t vote. ~Paul Harvey
Support your right to arm bears. ~Cleveland Amory (Thank you, Leslie.)
Why should man expect his prayer for mercy to be heard by What is above him when he shows no mercy to what is under him? ~Pierre Troubetzkoy
Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight. ~Albert Schweitzer
Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they’re in the game. ~Paul Rodriguez
Man is the only creature that consumes without producing. He does not give milk, he does not lay eggs, he is too weak to pull the plough, he cannot run fast enough to catch rabbits. Yet he is lord of all the animals. ~George Orwell, Animal Farm
Animals give me more pleasure through the viewfinder of a camera than they ever did in the crosshairs of a gunsight. And after I’ve finished “shooting,” my unharmed victims are still around for others to enjoy. I have developed a deep respect for animals. I consider them fellow living creatures with certain rights that should not be violated any more than those of humans. ~Jimmy Stewart
I ask people why they have deer heads on their walls. They always say because it’s such a beautiful animal. There you go. I think my mother is attractive, but I have photographs of her. ~Ellen DeGeneres
The fact that man knows right from wrong proves his intellectual superiority to the other creatures; but the fact that he can do wrong proves his moral inferiority to any creatures that cannot. ~Mark Twain, What Is Man, 1906
As often as Herman had witnessed the slaughter of animals and fish, he always had the same thought: in their behaviour toward creatures, all men were Nazis. The smugness with which man could do with other species as he pleased exemplified the most extreme racist theories, the principle that might is right. ~Isaac Bashevis Singer
It is just like man’s vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions. ~Mark Twain
Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored. ~Alice Walker
Lisa: “Do we have any food that wasn’t brutally slaughtered?”
Homer: “Well, I think the veal died of loneliness.”
~Matt Groening, The Simpsons
Cruelty must be whitewashed by a moral excuse, and pretense of reluctance. ~George Bernard Shaw
Get a feel for fur: Slam your fingers in a car door. ~Anonymous, on the use of steel traps to capture fur-bearing animals, cited in Audubon, November 1990
Vivisection is a social evil because if it advances human knowledge, it does so at the expense of human character. ~George Bernard Shaw
I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t…. The pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. ~Mark Twain
The basis of all animal rights should be the Golden Rule: we should treat them as we would wish them to treat us, were any other species in our dominant position. ~Christine Stevens
When a man wants to murder a tiger he calls it sport; when the tiger wants to murder him he calls it ferocity. ~George Bernard Shaw
I abhor vivisection with my whole soul. All the scientific discoveries stained with innocent blood I count as of no consequence. ~Mahatma Gandhi
People must have renounced, it seems to me, all natural intelligence to dare to advance that animals are but animated machines…. It appears to me, besides, that [such people] can never have observed with attention the character of animals, not to have distinguished among them the different voices of need, of suffering, of joy, of pain, of love, of anger, and of all their affections. It would be very strange that they should express so well what they could not feel. ~Voltaire, Traité sur la tolerance
The assumption that animals are without rights and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality. ~Schopenhauer
Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~Thomas A. Edison
To a man whose mind is free there is something even more intolerable in the sufferings of animals than in the sufferings of man. For with the latter it is at least admitted that suffering is evil and that the man who causes it is a criminal. But thousands of animals are uselessly butchered every day without a shadow of remorse. If any man were to refer to it, he would be thought ridiculous. And that is the unpardonable crime. ~Romain Rolland, Nobel Prize 1915
Deer hunting would be fine sport, if only the deer had guns. ~William S. Gilbert
Because the heart beats under a covering of hair, of fur, feathers, or wings, it is, for that reason, to be of no account? ~Jean Paul Richter
Deliberate cruelty to our defenceless and beautiful little cousins is surely one of the meanest and most detestable vices of which a human being can be guilty. ~William Ralph Inge
The indifference, callousness and contempt that so many people exhibit toward animals is evil first because it results in great suffering in animals, and second because it results in an incalculably great impoverishment of the human spirit. All education should be directed toward the refinement of the individual’s sensibilities in relation not only to one’s fellow humans everywhere, but to all things whatsoever. ~Ashley Montague
The life spark in my eyes is in no way different than the life spark in the eyes of any other sentient being. ~Michael Stepaniak, quoted in Joanne Stepaniak, The Vegan Sourcebook, 1998
We must fight against the spirit of unconscious cruelty with which we treat the animals. Animals suffer as much as we do. True humanity does not allow us to impose such sufferings on them. It is our duty to make the whole world recognize it. Until we extend our circle of compassion to all living things, humanity will not find peace. ~Albert Schweitzer, The Philosophy of Civilization
“What we need are shotguns and an ample supply of bird shot.”
No way. That messes up their pelt and meat too much.
What you need is are small caliber rifles and 125,000+ rounds of ammunition.
Well we certainly have strayed, (no pun intended), here on MDN today.
After Sky Lark’s quotes though, no matter who you are you have to agree with the Philip Ochoa quote which I’ll repeat here again:
Look deep into the eyes of any animal, and then for a moment, trade places, their life becomes as precious as yours and you become as vulnerable as them. Now smile if you believe all animals deserve our respect and our protection, for in a way, they are us, and we are them.” ~ Philip Ochoa
That is an incredible couple of sentences. Thank You Sky Lark and way to go Woz.
And here’s to another great cat coming up this week! It’s called Leopard.
“No heaven will not ever Heaven be
Unless my cats are there to welcome me.”
So this sicko SKY LARK wants all their cats killed if they die?
“Let’s feed them cat!”
I think the homeless people are way ahead of you on that one.
I shoot cats for a living. It’s not difficult really. Once you get a bead on them, pull the trigger. They often don’t know what him them. The lie about cats having nine lives is just that, a myth. A bullet through the head will kill them immediately. Ones that go through the body knocks them over. Occasionally the wounded ones will crawl away under a car or culvert – these don’t last long – a few days at most.
@chris
Traps? You’re sick!!!
@Vlad
Yes I believe if you were truly familiar with cats and understood them you would at least appreciate what amazing creatures they are. What makes me laugh is those who can say they admire lions, tigers, leopards etc because of their power, stealth and impressive beauty then in the same breath say they hate or dislike domesticated cats. The only difference is size and how tame they are. They have the same hunting instinct. They both learn to hunt from their mother. Their physical capabilities are the same but on a different scale.
Cats all have completely different personalities and it has been proven scientifically that stroking a cat on your knee will lower your stress.
Vlad, I can tell you this. Without house cats going outside think about how bad the rodent problem would be in any inner city or suburb. What do you prefer? Rats on the loose in your rubbish or cats just sitting around on street corners chilling out? And a cat being feral is NOT the cats fault. It is the fault of people who for example get a kitten for Xmas for their kid and then decide when it becomes an adult cat that they don’t want it any more as it’s no longer cute. So they abandon it somewhere in the countryside thinking because it is a cat it can fend for itself. Yea cats are born survivors. But they should be cared for. And neutered. My cats all come and go as they please and they mostly choose to stay in my garden or guard the drive from other cats. Vlad, if you had a cat of your own and trained it to use a litter tray but let it go outside you would no longer have a problem with stray cats as it would set up territory on your front and others would avoid that territory.
If you knew anything about cats you would know that there are two three different types of territory. Claimed territory, Common ground and unclaimed territory. If claimed then other cats will avoid it. Usually a small amount of spray will do the trick. Common ground is where cats can sit together as a community and is normally very peaceful and the last one is obvious.
I seriously cannot understand people who hate for no good reason. What, did a cat tear your face off and scar you for life? Have you ever known a kitty tear a small child to bits? There are reports of Big dogs doing that all the time but you don’t hear people get so passionate about hating them do you.
I have been bitten on the ass at the age of 10 by a Doberman pincher and a huge German shepherd bit me on the arm when I was in my twenties. Both times for absolutely no reason. I don’t hate dogs though. You cat haters need therapy. Seriously!!!
@Boyarsky
Did you watch the video. Many thousands of stray cats get “eliminated” as you call it every year. But if a loving home can be found and a cat gets neutered then what’s the harm of that?
If you worked with cats like the people on this video do you would prefer to see them homed.
It’s one thing saying they should be eliminated and it’s another thing having to put a kitten or a very friendly cat down. I’m guessing the poor guys who have that job feel pretty angry at the complete morons that abandon these poor animals. Remember it’s always a human that is the root cause of a problem like this.
Fools that get a cat, don’t neuter or spay it and then abandon it. These idiots have a lot to answer for. Oh yeah the guy who said “anyone who hates haters is a hater” I don’t hate anyone pal, but I feel pity for haters. They need to get a grip!!
It’s a pretty immature attitude to hate anyone or anything without a proper reason. Especially someone who is too shallow to realise a feral cat problem is the fault of irresponsible people NOT cats. And it is people not unlike themselves too. Because these people decide for some reason that they’re not really “cat people” and abandon their cats. If they were cat lovers they would care or their pets and get them neutered. So the cats would make a home for themselves and not annoy intolerant people.
@Sicko
Haha, very good, I’ll pay that. well twisted, not quite the point I was trying to make, but funny none the less.
Anyway, apparently Steve Jobs is a pescetarian, so maybe he has more in common with cats than we think, besides the big puddycats like Leopard et al.
I see there are one or two nasty and highly immature people on here. Probably the same people who come on here having a go at Mac users. At at least most of you have a good attitude. @Nobodi, your suggestions as to how to deal with the feral cat problem are very good indeed. It seems that over there in the States you have a very large amount of feral cats. Over here in the UK there isn’t really one at all. I live in a town on the outskirts of Nottingham and I have seen probably three stray cats in the last 17 years of living here. Maybe 7 – 10 strays in my entire life.
Over here we have the PDSA which is a free vetenary service that exists on donations and people on state benefits get this service for free. We also have the RSPCA which collects strays, neuters them if they find a home for them they neuter them for cheap and also inject sub-cutaneous electronic tags so they can be re-united with their owners if they get lost and are found.
People need to be more responsible for their pets.
I want to say something to those who say they would kill or run over a cat. These animals may be a loved pet of say some sweet old lady or a really great kid. Would you be able to tell them what you did and explain to them that it wasn’t an accident and that you did it for no good reason other than you couldn’t give a s**t?
@Hummer.
I see you are guilty of murdering my brothers and sisters.
One day on safari you will meet one of my larger relations face to face.
Maybe then you will know the meaning of the word KARMA.
(For about three seconds).
Muhahahaha
I live in a rural area, here extra cats are handled by the coyotes
Nothing like a bit of stray pussy!
Woz and other Feral Cat fans need to also think about the dwindling Song Bird population. Cats are NOT native wild species and don’t belong in the mix.
Cats hunt and kill, hungry or not–that is their instinct and it’s part of the “Sport of Cats” to go after small moving objects.
Feral and domestic cats put outside for the day kill daily, taking their toll on migrating (and non-migrating) birds. West Nile has taken a big toll on bird populations and kills by cats for fun isn’t helping.
” . . . it has been proven scientifically that stroking a cat on your knee will lower your stress.”
Is that what the kids are calling that these days?
The biggest problem with cats is that they decimate local wild bird populations.
Cats, like people, kill for pleasure. Whether they’re hungry or not.
Cat lovers will balk, but it’s a real problem, especially as wild bird habitats are shrinking dramatically on both ends of their yearly migrations.
Time to eradicate all the feral humans who have screwed up the planet.
“Cats, like people, kill for pleasure. Whether they’re hungry or not.”
Not sure if it’s true, but I read somewhere that humans and domestic cats (Felis silvestris catus) are the only two species on the planet that might tease prey and kill for amusement rather than survival.
Big truck driver: Lost your wife and kids? Look under MY tires, asshole.
” Over here in the UK there isn’t really one at all”
Interesting. Your countrymen estimate there’s over a million feral cats in the UK.
” . . . there’s over a million feral cats in the UK.”
How else are they going to sell out the Brighton Pier?
(j/k)
Lived with a woman for TWO years, she has 2 cats.
I can unequivocally state “I HATE CATS”.
Do I care if the cats “sh*t only in their litterbox”?
Nope.
Watch the cat walk out of its litterbox then jump on your kitchen counter.
Watch the cat walk out of its litterbox then jump on you kitchen table.
Open up a cupboard, and see a cat sleeping on the dinner plate.
Cat sh*t on the bottoms of little cat feet are NOT clean, especially when they’re walking over everything you eat off of.
UGH.
Cats are not the problem, people who don’t know how to take care of them are. People tend to drop them off to parks and harbors after they don’t need them and thus create the problem.
Btw, pet owner title should never be used, pet guardian is more correct, or do you own your children too and that allows you to do anything to them.
“pet owner title should never be used, pet guardian is more correct”
With a cat your title is more correctly food vending machine.
So people complain about cats “wiping out” native birds. What about all the animals on the endangered species list. Cats weren’t the problem there. Humans are. We think we are so above other animal life. Everything is put here for a reason down to the smallest insect. Cats aren’t the reason West Nile is spreading.
I hate how people can be so narrow minded. How people can give a crap about other animal life. We as humans have completely lost touch with nature. With some countries looking at cows to be sacred and Americans eating them by the tons. Some religions don’t believe in eating pork, we can give a crap.
Rounding up cats and killing them, will not solve anything. It is a temporary fix to a bigger problem. People abandon cats, so cat’s go into survival mode. The proven way to help this over population problem is to “TNR” cats. If you haven’t heard about it, basically you trap, neuter, then return these cats back to their colonies. If you know how cats work, it’s easy.
They live in colonies, so if you trap and kill a feral cat in that colony another one will just take it’s place. If you attempt to trap the entire colony, I guarantee you will not catch them all. Then they will just keep mating and multiplying and shelters will continue to struggle. If you TNR them they will not reproduce and no other cats can be introduced into the colony. It has been proven. Dumb American people are just too lazy. I am an American and I do live in an area where this problem exist. And TNR has been proven to work in my area, people just can’t be lazy about the issue.
So don’t be ignorant, look at the big picture. There will always be an over population of humans, cats, dogs, and other domesticated animals. Why? Because humans are so selfish.
I wonder if Woz prefers the cats with glossy coats or the matte ones?
“If you TNR them they will not reproduce”
Same applies if you hit them squarely with a .223 round.
“I wonder if Woz prefers the cats with glossy coats or the matte ones?”
If you’re making a coat, you really want to get all one kind or the other.
If you haven’t heard about it, basically you trap, neuter, then return these cats back to their colonies
Great idea. How do you propose paying for it? “Fixing” tens of thousands of cats wouldn’t exactly be cost-free.
Then there’s the issue of any such program being in THE spotlight of every animal rights group, worldwide. Any trapping and processing would have to be done so the cats would feel zero trauma or pain. Of course they’d have to be nursed to full health before being released (regardless of their as-trapped condition). And someone would have to make sure they don’t suffer or starve after release…
While the trap-fix-return idea has merit at first blush, in practice any such program would quickly become costly and dysfunctional. Too many cat-huggers would be out to make the program not work, or (worse yet) to see that it really turns the ferals into public pets.
It’s a no-win situation.
“It’s a no-win situation.”
Not true, like I said earlier, it has been working in my area. Yes it cost money, but so does euthanasia. Matter of fact it cost shelters $1000’s to do just that. It will cost a person $10 or free depending on what your local shelter has to offer per cat, to get them spayed or neutered. Yes, it would cost money to maintain these colonies, but there are rescue organizations that take care of all this for you. Just call them. If you are not sure if there is such an organization, call your local animal shelter. Chances are they know someone.
I will say it again, it is working in my county. Mass euthanasia is not the answer, nor is killing them yourself. You will never fix the problem by being a redneck.
“Yes it cost money, but so does euthanasia.”
Yes, about $0.20 a round in bulk. If you’re happy to trap them and pop them in the head with a .22 you can get the ammo cost down to about 3-4 cents a cat. Add what you can sell the pelt and the meat for, it’s a winning business.
“Of course they’d have to be nursed to full health before being released (regardless of their as-trapped condition). “
Actually they do the surgery and throw them straight back out there. The best technique is to do it through the flank, as they tended to find doing it thru the belly caused problems with cat stitches (followed by cat internal contents) dropping out with no post surgery care.
I like to watch stray cats have sex.
I have three ferrets and they are more playful than a cat. Also, I would love to have a cat but my wife is actually allergic to cats.
Nothing like a topic outsied IT to reveal how mac users are just the same assholes as windoze users…
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