BusinessWeek scribe won’t buy iPhone until Apple allows third-party apps

“I don’t own an iPhone, and I don’t think I ever will. That may come as a surprise to anyone acquainted with my long history of owning and liking Apple (AAPL) products,” Arik Hesseldahl writes for BusinessWeek.

“It’s not that I don’t think it’s an extraordinary device. Having tried it, I think it represents a fundamental step forward in what a mobile phone can be. And it sure looks like it’s going to be imitated six ways to Sunday,” Hesseldahl writes.

“But what I can’t take is how Apple is keeping the iPhone from evolving in a manner consistent with its corporate heritage. Over the years I’ve owned many wireless devices, including a Treo, three or four BlackBerrys, and tested my share of phones running Microsoft’s Windows Mobile and the Symbian OS, majority owned by Nokia,” Hesseldahl writes.

“In almost every case, I’ve had an important option I wouldn’t get on the iPhone: installing third-party software,” Hesseldahl writes.

“Apple insiders argue privately that the iPhone is a new device. In time, they say, maybe the development policy could change, though none say definitively that it ever will… So I’m not going to buy an iPhone. And until Apple commits to changing this ridiculous policy, I don’t think you should either.”

Full article here.

All this bloviating about iPhone and third-party apps has an excellent chance of looking rather silly in hindsight. Regardless, if you want to stick with a second-rate (or worse) smartphone and their baby Web browsers, horrible interfaces, minuscule low-res screens, styluses and/or sloppy uni-touch screens and/or forty tiny plastic buttons, incomprehensible menus, and buried and/or unusable features in order to somehow force Apple to begin offering third-party “Made for iPhone” apps via the iTunes Store before they’re ready to do so, then go for it.

Third-party apps or not: You can have our iPhones when you pry them from our cold dead hands.

76 Comments

  1. “So I’m not going to buy an iPhone. And until Apple commits to changing this ridiculous policy, I don’t think you should either.”

    First, I don’t fu*king care if your not buying an iPhone you whinny bitch.
    Second, don’t tell me what I should or shouldn’t do, you microtard.

    I hate these idiots and they think there opinion matters just because they say they “like Apple and it’s products”, and it hurts their little feelings that they can’t install some shitty little poorly written 3rd party app, which they won’t even use anyway.

    Like this douche not buying an iPhone will hurt Apple. Like he thinks he’s that important. Moron.

    Please don’t buy an iPhone. EVER.

  2. @ Arik Hesseldahl

    You’re kind of a nincompoop, aren’t you?
    You don’t think I should either? Well thanks for looking out for me, honey. You’re the best! Should I put off buying a new car until they fly? Or put off buying a new camera until Canon let’s me install a “Flying Toaster” screen saver? I’m so glad you’re around to help me!!!

    Oh, and One More Thing, MDN…

    “bloviating”? That’s a new one!

    -c

  3. Well, the dude may be nuts, but he does have a point. There is so much that can be done with 3rd party apps on the iPhone. I’m talking real apps, not Web 2.0 apps (which aren’t bad but have their limits). I’ll bet Apple will allow 3rd-party apps on the NEXT generation iPhone, which will suck ass for the rest of us. Just watch.

  4. I get so tired of people bitchin’ about not having 3rd party apps, locked to one network, blah, blah, blah. For crying out loud technology pundits and the like, give Steve J and the folk at Cupertino at least a quarter or two to evaluate what the iPhone currently is and what is could be. It’s a new platform and new business for Apple and they need a baseline. The are treading at their own pace. And I’m sure they’ve already heard all the <airquoute> problems </airquote>. Good Lord.

  5. Well I’m typing this on my iPod touch which is basically an iPhone sans phone and I’ve got to say this is the coolest gadget I have EVER owned, being able to surf the web on a device this small is the stuff you see in sci-fi films set in 100 years time.

    I’m glad I bought one, and will definitly be getting an iPhone when they come over to the UK.

    So thanks for the advice, but I think i’ve made my mind up.

  6. The iPhone has been and remains to be capable of EVERYTHING Apple says it is capable of. I see no wrong doing. I hope Arik Hesseldahl avoids writing about Apple in the future. I’d rather no see his gobble-D-gook on this web site.

  7. I think he is on to something. I just hope Apple does not repeat the same mistakes it did when introducing the Apple computer/Mac OS is the early 80’s. The day someone comes out with something that the iPhone can’t do, or does it better — bye-bye iPhone. I’m concerned that Apple still has not released a solution for Exchange Server, preventing MILLIONS from even considering getting the phone. What about flash? As an iPhone owner, the more features/apps I can get on my phone the better. Think different people…… dont be Apple sheep.

  8. Hey, I like my iPhone. Some problems, but so what.

    And MDN, a little O’Reilly AND Heston in the same take? Cool.

    Hi, Chrissy.

    Go Cowboys.

    Anyone know where to get an all in one car charger/mount for the iPhone? The kind you plug in and form the holder to the angle you want. I don’t need it to do anything else.
    Well, maybe converse with me on long trips.
    Wait, that’s what the phone part is for….

  9. Arik sounds like my three year old throwing a fit because he doesn’t get everything he wants and doesn’t know why. How about we change the first part of what you said to:

    “I don’t read any BusinessWeek stuff, and I don’t think I ever will.”

    Get real Arik, you have a choice and you can stick with the also rans. Doesn’t matter, you’re obviously a geek that doesn’t understand what it feels like to date the hot chick.

    Bottom line, iPhones are cool, iPods are cool and that stuff matters to teens and many adults. I really want you to go hang out at my son’s high school for a few days and see if you can handle all the ribbing you’ll get with all the other choices. You definately won’t be going out with the hot chicks.

  10. “First, I don’t fu*king care if your not buying an iPhone you whinny bitch.”

    Whinny bitch – Is that a mare? They whinny.

    Whiny– not drinking wine, but pissing and moaning all the time.

    MW – close. but not on the nose.

  11. I’m actually of the same mind.

    There is one thing more that I need the iPhone to do. It doesn’t do it. I don’t think Apple will ever do it–it’s kind of a specialized thing.

    As a developer, I’m willing to write it myself. But I have other things to do, so I’ll wait for Apple to release an iPhone SDK. Of course, the iPhone currently wouldn’t support it anyway (As I understand it, the Bluetooth stack only supports enough to handle a wireless headphone).

    In the meantime, I’ll somehow survive with my iPod nano and cellphone. I’m actually not unconvinced that isn’t a smarter choice anyway (the old “having all your eggs in one basket” issue).

  12. My iPhone has already made my life a heckuva lot easier, just by being able to use the REAL Internet (not the dumbed-down version that passes for same on most phones) to check bus schedules, keep up to date on the news of the day, and communicate with my friends via email on the road.

    And for the most part, the EDGE network hasn’t been as bad as I thought it would.

    I could care less about most 3rd party apps — if they build in the ability to sync notes and to-do lists between the Mac and the iPhone (perhaps something in the new version of iCal?), that would take care of my needs just fine, and likely the vast majority of users as well. How many folks really need Exchange connectivity? How many need to take along Microsoft Office documents on their phone?

  13. I think this should get the “Think Before You Click” label. These are people who are getting on the bandwagon of Landau, Griffiths, Breen, all three of which are chorusing “Apple is evil because there are no third party apps.” Give me a break. These three keep represeting the small number of people who hack their iPhones as the majority.

  14. With less of a fuss, it’s the lack of apps has kept me from switching my family plan, going thru that broohaha, etc… I’ll eventually get one when we switch from Verizon, but for a device as powerful as the iPhone is, it’s awefully limited, don’t you think? No flash, no 3rd party apps? If it’s truely OSX, then why not make a portable version of iWork? I’d love to leave my laptop at home on my next work trip, just bring a cable for presentations, my Keynote presentations and some Pages docs on my iPhone. Maybe some backups on a firewire drive? Awesome. Oh, but that’s not possible yet… because it’s not tech feasible? Don’t think so. Apple better be careful, they’ll pull an “RCA” in the 70’s. (Invinted the LCD, then sat on it until it was too late…)

  15. Until the iPhone supports Pocket Quicken & FileMaker Mobile, I will be sticking with my Treo 650. Sorry, MacDailyNews, but my Treo 650 does more than the iPhone currently does — with the exception of WIFI Internet access. I even have a Slingbox client on my Treo! (Not that that’s too important to me.) But the key software programs I need on an iPhone are Pocket Quicken & FileMaker Mobile — I use those programs dozens upon dozens of time every single day on my Treo. Until that happens, I’m quite happy with my Treo 650.

  16. I have nothing against the idea of 3rd party apps. But at the moment there isn’t a single one that I need. So until this, let’s call it a ‘killer’ app, materializes and is something I have to have, trading promising yet vague potential for a secure platform makes perfect sense to me.

    -c

  17. OK folks, In case you have not been reading the news at MDN carefully, time to wise up. AAPL is going down hard. Just check out the headlines…. Microsoft with new zunes on the way, LG Voyager to be the iPhone killer, Now this guy promises not to buy an iPhone. Apple is doomed for sure.

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  18. I want an iPhone.

    But I CAN’T use an iPhone until there is a way for it to replace my Treo 650. That means HTML Active Sync Exchange Mail for work (without having to involve my IT department), and Acrobat Reader/iSolo for books (I read a LOT when I travel). Oh…and silly me but I LIKE AvantGo on the Treo (whole “reading” thing again…without needing to be online at the time)

    It’s a freaking computer. Why NOT allow 3rd party apps? Seems to me that’s like saying we won’t allow 3rd party apps on a MacBook Pro? Yeah right! (Which is THE BEST computer I’ve EVER owned BTW…)

  19. Hesseldahl is highly respected and been a great advocate for Apple so far.

    He’s misguided on this one though. His lack of objectivity and elitist nerdiness seem to have blinded him to a couple of facts: 1. Apple Computer is now Apple, Inc; 2. the iPhone is exactly what Apple announced it would be–a phone, and not a computer.

    The bloggosphere is too busy putting words into iPhone owners’ mouths who didn’t ask for it. I haven’t met a single iPhone owner yet who’s complaining about Apple’s policy toward the iPhone. Personally, I appreciate the iPhone’s added security and reliability as consequence of their policy.

    Unfortunately this minority of nerds and elite bloggers are making a disproportionate amount of noise for their numbers. I call it swift-boating.

    Maybe this is the beginning of the end for the old-school Apple supporters who don’t agree with Apple’s latest direction. I have a feeling though, that they’ll be forgiving Apple, when Apple releases it’s next wave of technology.

  20. I’ve loong been a tremendous Apple fan but you guys are such homeboy apologists that you often leave all reason behind.
    I’ll likely get an iPhone before they open it up to reach it’s potential but that won’t stop me from calling Apple’s stance on this what it is, incomprehensible. As presented it takes, as you’ve described, a wonderful platform and stunts it’s potential seemingly in the name of protecting commercial interests. Apple is doing just fine on the ledgers and they got that way by serving their users so I’m concerned when they seem to get the cart before the horse and are willing to screw their users in the name of more money. The idea, as recently reported, that they may open the architecture in a very controlled way (not a bad idea) but take 2/3reds of the software price for themselves seems like they’d be really screwing their developers too. I hope that rumor isn’t true.
    I’m hopeful they are working to do the right thing to serve their customers but as they’ve presented themselves so far, it doesn’t make them look good in this case & we shouldn’t pretend it does.

  21. Sorry MDN, you’re comment sounds like a child whining “my dad is better than your dad.”

    The fact of the matter is some of us need the apps we use on those other smart phones. Here are some things my Treo does that I use all the time; but that I currently can not do on the iPhone:

    Every single day I refer to Splash ID for some password, email configuration, network configs, PIN number, etc. I have it on my PowerBook and my Treo and it is the one app I can’t do without.

    Everyday I take notes on the Treo’s memo pad. Yes, iPhone has notes but I can’t sync them back to my PowerBook like I can with my Treo. I need to sync them so I can convert them into memos and/or agendas. [Yes I’ve heard Leopard will support note syncing but I’m not going to get Leopard just for that.]

    I use MultiMedia Messaging to send pictures to friends and colleagues, many of them are work related. I need that ability.

    I also use Splash Shopper once a week to help me with shopping lists. I can edit them on my PowerBook or on the Treo and have them with me at whichever store I’m in. I also use Splash Shopper as a checklist program for things like packing before a trip, and preparing for a DJ gig.

    I have a database of thousands of songs stored on my MMC card. As a DJ I am able to refer to that database anytime and anywhere I may be; including in cramped DJ booths that don’t fit a laptop.

    Other things I do on a regular basis is look up words in a dictionary, translate between English & Spanish on another dictionary, and record voice memos that can be synced back to my PowerBook. I’ve also got a pretty cool security program – if I lose the phone I just send a text message to it with a special code and it will wipe the Treo’s memory and the MMC’s memory and lock out the SIM so it can’t be used.

    But YOU think I should give up all these things because you think the Treo’s buttons aren’t as cool as the iPhone’s inteface.

    Well I agree 100% that the iPhone is way cooler and the interface is awsome. But you’re comment is ridiculous because some of us have needs for these devices to do certain things that the iPhone can not do.

    And let me add that using web based apps is not a viable solution for me. AT&T;’s data network sucks and I don’t want to store things like passwords and song databases on the web. And speaking of the web, yes the Treo’s browser sucks and the few times I actually use it I wish like hell I had an iPhone. But that is not as important to me as the functionality I do get out of the Treo, mostly from 3rd party apps.

    I’m hoping we’ll see some huge changes with Leopard – I need a new phone and am purposely waiting to see if Leopard will bring changes to the iPhone…. But for now the fact of the matter is the iPhone is not a smart phone (what’s smart about You Tube? I still think that’s the most ridiculous add on I ever heard of). It’s the greatest entertainment phone ever made.

    I’m certain that one day I’ll be able to do all those things on the iPhone; but for now I need those things so I need my Treo. In the meantime, you shouldn’t assume everyone uses their phones like you do, and you should get down off your high horse.

  22. I love my iPhone and wasn’t gonna get involved with the hacking shit until I started to become bored with it and desired a change.

    Looks like I may never get the chance now but some of those hacks were amazing. People really did turn the iPhone into a handheld Mac.

    Oh well. I regret nothing.

  23. Steady up fellas. I’m a certified Apple fanboy (been through a Powerbook, two iMacs, an iBook and now a MacBook, a nano and an Airport, obsessive MDN reader, the lot …) and everything I read about iPhone tells me it’s gonna turn the industry upside down. Until it turns up in godzone the closest I can get to it is iPod touch. One of which I’m going to order tonight … or maybe not. You see, there is something about the touch that makes me – a natural Apple apologist – think that Hesseldahl is onto something. I know he’s talking about iPhone and 3rd party apps. But what they’ve done with the touch leaves me very unhappy. I’d be ready to fork out the NZ$490 they’re asking for it down here. But there are things they’ve done to it that are downright mean. Taking off ability to create calendar entries is the most obvious example – no conceivable technical justification. No email, no notes: again that smells of accountants let off the leash. Not being able to keep or access any file other than music, image or video without WiFi access really sucks. Artificially crippling the touch to justify the premium for iPhone? It tells me that Cupertino are losing touch with the most basic of things, keeping customers happy by delivering as much as you can of what they need and want. Bad call, Steve.

  24. Well – I really like the iPhone, and am looking forward to when it finally arrives in the UK.

    The only thing that really winds me up about it is that I cannot put on my own ring tones. And I am not talking about stilen, downloaded music. But I cannot even put my own created sounds on there. Or whatever – if I record my kids laughing and want that as a ringtone, I couldn’t do that.

    Maybe that’s Apple’s way of getting rid of really embarrassing ringtones – but still…

  25. Consumers are either:

    a) content with what the OEM offers, and thus buys it.

    b) not content with what the OEM offers, but buys it anyway

    c) not content with what the OEM offers, but buys it and then modifies it with aftermarkets

    d) not content with what the OEM offers, but buys it and then modifies it with aftermarkets **and complains when this invaliates the warranty

    e) not content with what the OEM offers, so doesn’t buy it (does without).

    e) not content with what the OEM offers, so buys someone’s elses product.

    In a technology field, there’s endless temptation to “tweak”. For some people, its their job (such as Tech Writers). However, one does get to the point where you realize that it is just more bullshit that’s not worth obscessing over.

    For example, my Blackberry’s calendar UI is horrible in comparison to my old Palm T3. However, despite the BB suposedly being “open” to 3rd Parties, no one makes a good alternative UI for the calendar. As such, this feature of “openness” can very well be overrated.

    Besides, in an Enterprise environment, its more important to me that the device be Rock-Solid-Reliable. As such, I’m not going to put any 3rd Party ‘stuff’ on it anyway…only that which is OEM certified as Kosher.

    Note that this doesn’t mean that there aren’t opportunities for improvements: there are. The point is that there’s simply no way that I’m going to volunteer to be the Beta Tester.

    As such, its obvious to me that all of the “Winers” simply don’t have their priorities straight: they’re like children crying about their Barbie Doll. If they were adults, they would have remembered that a craftsman never blames his tools.

    -hh

  26. Oh my God. One guy states that the iPhone looks wonderful, but he’ll wait until Apple buys 3rd party apps before he’ll buy one, and the response here is the same as throwing raw meat in the dingo cage at the zoo.

    MDN putting this guy’s article up on the forum is the same as the inner party putting a picture of Goldstein up on the telescreen for the proles to hiss at and scream. Sorry, but I’m not a prole.

    I love OSX. I’ve owned several macs and ipods. I’ve agreed with most choices that Steve Jobs and the one infinite loopers have made. But that doesn’t mean that I will blindly follow and agree with every thing that they do. For instance, Apple could do better at making their keyboards spill resistant. The mighty mouse is defective by design; you shouldn’t have to wear surgical gloves to use an effing mouse. And I don’t see a compelling reason (so far) to upgrade from my 5.5g iPod or install 10.5 on my powermac.

    If someone has a compelling argument concerning these points, I’d like to hear it. What I can pass on is a gallon of vitriol or other verbal abuse thrown on me because I don’t agree with you exactly.

  27. actually third party apps, are only one reason why I won’t buy an iPhone.

    The other is the AT&T;contract. i refuse to pay for it. Give me an iPhone that I can use with my existing AT&T;contract and I might consider it. but I don’t use all of my existing contract why would I need 50% more minutes and a data rate plan that makes 56k dial-up aol account look fast and cheap.

    clear up those two things and I will go get an iPhone. It does have an awesome interface.

  28. There’s an awful lot of needless derision going on here and not a lot of sensible response. The guy made a statement. He gave his reasons. They were logical and expressed his personal needs. Then a bunch of “microtards” jumped on him, calling him names and – quite often – offering nothing to support their derision but more derision.
    Let’s start out with not everyone needs a “smartphone”. You ever think of that?
    One step up from that would be, not everyone who needs a smartphone needs a good one.
    Another step up would be some who need a good one can get by with the feature set Apple offers.
    Three audiences who don’t need to spend the money. One audience that needs to be reassured that they made the right decision for the right reasons. None of whom need to be denigrated as “whiney bitches”, nincompoops, or three year olds.
    Is the iPhone an excellent product? Certainly.
    Does it do all of what most people need? And more.
    Does this negate anything he said? Not for a second.
    Children, grow up and have a bit more respect for those whose opinions are not your own. The world is mostly grey, where it isn’t in glorious color, rather than black and white. Expand your horizons.
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  29. -hh…good, response.
    DLMeyer… Yes, the author made a statement and he should have left it at that. When he tells me not to buy and iphone because he doesn’t like the fact there are no third party apps, then he’s gone too far. My needs and his needs are totally different. Personally, the iphone does everything I want it to do at this time, so I have one. To all those people that need additional apps, stick with your Treos or whatever.

    I know many “business” people need Exchange services built into their smart phones, but even if it eventually comes to the iphone, I refuse to use it. I see it at work, everyone attached to their e-mail 24/7. Not me. I don’t want e-mails at two in the morning, in the middle of a meeting, on weekends, or while on vacation. Don’t answer it you say? The culture at my job is to respond asap to any e-mail. As it is, I spend half the day responding to e-mails on my desktop, instead of doing real work. Not the most productive way to spend the day, IMHO.

  30. Arik does explain why he did not like the iPhone. No free ringtones. He is pissed that he has to pay 99 cents for one. See the end of the article. He wants free “illegal” ring tones or he aint buying the iPhone. Maybe the RIAA needs to check out his music. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”grin” style=”border:0;” />

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  31. I don’t care about the concept of 3rd party apps. What I do need on my phone is the ability to record voice notes. Is there anyone who can not imagine that this would be very useful to some people? I was excited when someone created this function for my iPhone. It was very helpful. Then Apple took it away. So there is one important function that my old Treo had that my new iPone lacks.

    MDN and others can whine all they want about how Apple has the legal right… how nobody should ever want… etc. But anyone with half a brain can see that this situation will cause many people to stay away from the iPhone.

    I hope Apple solves this soon. And if Apple ever allows 3rd party apps, we know that MDN will praise Apple for their wonderful innovation.

  32. Is that Apple will in all likelihood allow 3rd party apps on the iPhone at some point, and all you guys who didn’t give a crap about apps on the iPhone will announce that Apple’s brilliant move just makes the best phone in the world even more bettar!!11!oneone!

  33. The usual garbage from MDN. You guys are so far gone into fanboy lala land you completely disregard anyone that says anything remotely negative about any Apple product. No matter how much merit there is behind it. Are your egos so easily bruised that you can’t handle a little Apple negativity? The absolute fact is the 3rd party policy is absolutely retarded. And for you others that are claiming the iPhone is flawless and perfect and no one else cares about bloggers little whines should try reading the official discussion and support forums sometime. Of course you will just ignore it all and say the people posting there are paid Microsoft shills.

    The iPhone is a great piece of tech but it IS severely lacking. The sooner you understand this better unless you really like looking like ignorant fools.

  34. Ok, this is the very last time I read the MacDailyNews Take. MDN’s Steve Jack’s tongue has become so Apple-Steve-Jobs-brown that the stink is unbearable.

    I wonder what the MDN take would be if Steve Jobs was guilty of massmurder..umm..”they had it coming!”?

  35. @ The funny part

    Absolutely spot on !

    Watch also when the new iMovie will gain many new features, lifting it way above the $ 4,75 mark (or whatever amount MDN used in their ridiculious “reasoning”) of value, and see them cheer in blind idolation and mindless worship. Then, when three weeks later Apple replaces it with iMovie Black and White 12×8 iResolotion, see them gang up on critics for wanting more than a $00,2 app…..

    Hasselberg has a long history of very pro but also well reasoned Apple articles. Now he has a not unreasonable critique, and immediately the burning crosses are lit by MDN and some of its cult (or whatever they are).

    And yes, he has put a tiny little bit of venom in his closing sentence. Oh, the irony and arrogance of MDN of all sites to attack him for that.

    Not that MDN is truely in any of this bar ad revenues…..

  36. As a great apple fan, I’d luv to have one of these phones soon.
    Got to play with a hacked iphone last week ! Apple makes great products and should stick to making them. Not being a phone company ! It’s having problems in Europe because it’s illegal to sell phones with a contract for one certain provider. If they really want to sell lots of these it should be sim free ! France and Germany are in trouble with this set-up already. Doubt I’ll see it in Belgium any time soon. It’s old mobile technology, who uses edge anyway and who wants visual voice mail. Get myself a hacked one with a provider that I choose !

  37. I bought iPhone (I like to try new things), but I’m disappointed with the war that Apple is waging on the owners of the iPhones. I’m doing films and I own many sound effect files. I converted one of them to be a ringtone and installed it. A new release of iPhone firmware comes out and wipes out my lonely ringtone. Note that I cannot buy a replacement (Apple doesn’t offer it anything comparable). You may claim that Apple did this to increase a stability of my phone and I will claim it is just pure greed. Apple may have done a great job with UI, but at this point it is stifling individual creativity and innovation with its policies.

  38. I agree that the Iphone is a cool tech gadget, as cool as it gets so far, but it is lacking in some areas. I don’t understand why all the kids have to start flinging verbal attacks just because someone is stating an opinion. Just because someone values something different in a device doesn’t mean he is wrong and needs to be ridiculed. This kind of blind loyalty is scary. Well, people that still blinding follow President Bush is scarier but you get my point. Neo-cons, Neo-apple fan bois. Educated, open minded adults, IMO, respect other’s opinions whether they agree with them our not. If you don’t care about 3rd party apps then great. If you don’t and won’t buy the IPhone that is ok too. It is not like he is personally attacking people who own an IPhone. Golly gee, grow up people! ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

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