Cingular Exec says over one million Apple iTunes-capable phones sold, comments on iPhone, more

“Cingular Wireless, the largest U.S. wireless carrier, unveiled a new phone this week that taps into subscription music services from Napster, Yahoo! and eMusic and streaming radio from XM Satellite Radio,” Dan Frommer reports for Forbes. “It’s the first phone in the U.S. that taps into Napster and Yahoo!’s services, which give subscribers all-you-can-eat access to music for a monthly fee, each around $15.”

“Cingular’s new black-and-gray Samsung flip phone is similar in size to Motorola’s popular RAZR and supports the carrier’s third-generation, or ‘3G,’ high-speed data network. At its introductory price of $50, it’s cheaper than almost all other portable music players– Apple Computer’s lowest-priced iPod, the Shuffle, sells for $79,” Frommer reports. “Right now, users still need to transfer new music to the phone from a computer–not over the cellular network. And because the phone and services use a proprietary Microsoft encoding format, the music won’t work on iPods or Apple computers; the phones also won’t play songs purchased from Apple’s iTunes store.”

Robert Hyatt, executive director for entertainment and music services for Cingular, a joint venture of AT&T and BellSouth, sat down with Thursday to discuss the new phone and the business of wireless entertainment. Some of the discussion mentioned Apple:

Apple is widely rumored to be working on an iPod phone. Does today’s deal mean you won’t be announcing a new iPhone soon?
We can’t comment on the future with Apple. Great partner to date. We just released today that we’ve sold more than a million iTunes-capable phones [Note: Cingular currently sells three phone models that run Apple’s iTunes music software]. In today’s world, there’s lots of interest in music. There’s some degree of adoption. We’ve got a very broad approach. We have the Apple stuff in our camp. We have all the other music stores in our camp. We like that versus the position our competitors are in. We’re still at a point where music adoption is relatively small versus where it will end up, and we think having a broad approach makes sense.

So, is Apple making a phone or not?
I don’t know, actually [laughs]. Fortunately, I don’t know. Because if I knew … I’d have to tell you, “I don’t know” [laughs].

Full article here.

Related articles:
Cingular music deal suggests possible Apple MVNO for ‘iPhone’ – November 01, 2006
Cingular to launch music service sans Apple – November 01, 2006
iPhone sign? New Motorola Rokr phone uses Real One media player, not Apples’ iTunes – October 24, 2006
Apple’s taken iPod+iTunes to an entirely different level; iPhone will be like supertrain – October 21, 2006
RUMOR: Apple iPhone features leaked – October 19, 2006
Prudential analyst: Apple prepping two ‘iPhone’ models for Macworld Expo January 2007 release – October 16, 2006
Apple seeks rights to iPhone trademark – October 16, 2006
What would an Apple iPhone look like? – October 04, 2006
RUMOR: Apple iPhone to be Cingular-exclusive in US launch, O2-exclusive in Europe – September 26, 2006
Apple’s iTunes 7 contains iPhone clues – September 15, 2006
RUMOR: Apple ‘iPhone’ to debut at Macworld Expo in January 2007 – September 15, 2006
Apple ‘iPhone’ photo a fake, but potential buyers seem real – September 14, 2006
RUMOR: Apple’s ‘iPhone’ to be iPod nano-like candy bar form factor with choice of three colors – September 14, 2006
Apple’s iTunes 7 installer shows ‘iTunes Phone Driver’ as greyed-out option – September 12, 2006
Analyst: Apple could sell 12 million ‘iPhones’ next year – September 11, 2006
Analysts: Apple ‘iPhone’ design and business strategy more ambitious than expected – September 08, 2006
Analyst: Apple ‘iPhone’ finally ready for production – September 05, 2006
Apple CEO Steve Jobs talks up much-rumored ‘iPhone’ iPod mobile phone – August 11, 2006
Is this Apple’s iPhone? – August 03, 2006
BofA ups Apple Computer to ‘buy,’ expects ‘iPhone’ in 2007, shares rise in early trading – July 31, 2006
Not sitting around doing nothing: ‘iPhone’ could add billions to Apple’s revenue – July 21, 2006
Apple CFO on iPhone: ‘we’re not sitting around doing nothing’ – July 20, 2006
Merrill Lynch ups Apple rating to ‘buy’; UBS raises Apple target to $80 – July 20, 2006
Apple Q3 2006 Conference Call notes – July 19, 2006
iPhone, iPod messenger clues in latest iPod firmware update – July 17, 2006
Patent application shows iPod capable of live wireless video conferencing – June 13, 2006
Bear Stearns comments on Apple: ‘true’ video iPod, iPhone, multiple OS plans – May 17, 2006
Apple patent application filed for wireless iPod+iTunes distribution – May 04, 2006
Report: Apple Computer may soon launch its own music ‘iPhone’ – March 31, 2006
RUMOR: Apple ‘iPhone’ put on hold – March 30, 2006
Visiongain: Apple ‘iPhone’ launch imminent – March 29, 2006
BenQ exec: Apple’s iPhone ‘definitely coming’ – March 23, 2006
European patent application shows Apple ‘iPhone’ info? – March 21, 2006
Analyst: Apple ‘iPhone’ could put a dent in Motorola – March 20, 2006
Anayst: 75-percent chance of Apple ‘iPhone’ in next 12 months – March 16, 2006
Generator Research: Apple to Ship $4.2bn in Wireless iPods (WiPods) by 2010 – March 14, 2006
Citigroup tech analyst: Apple ‘iPhone’ is going to be a category killer – March 03, 2006
Motorola to make Windows Media phones, keep separate iTunes phone line – February 13, 2006
Review: Motorola SLVR Apple iTunes mobile phone ‘an incredibly slick gadget with some shortcomings’ – February 13, 2006
Ready for your wireless Apple iPod? – February 09, 2006
Wireless iPod? CSR and PortalPlayer to bring wireless connectivity to personal media players – February 08, 2006
Motorola and Cingular launch new SLVR L7 iTunes phone – January 31, 2006
Analyst sees new Apple iBooks by April, ‘media hub’ product, 1GB iPod nano, iPhone within a year – January 31, 2006
Analysts tackle Apple’s ‘Mobile Me’ patent, iPhone rumors, MVNO possibilities – January 19, 2006
The San Francisco Chronicle: Apple may link cell phone, iPod – January 17, 2006
Apple Computer getting into the mobile phone market? – January 12, 2006
Apple applies for ‘Mobile Me’ trademark – January 11, 2006
Morgan Stanley predicts Apple shares surge, Apple ‘iPhone’ in 2006 – December 16, 2005
Wireless Apple iPods coming in 2006? – December 09, 2005
Analyst predicts Apple-branded ‘iPhone’ with iTunes and terabyte iPod within five years – November 11, 2005
How Apple’s Steve Jobs snookered the entire cell phone industry – October 03, 2005
Motorola CEO Zander: Apple to build a smart phone, it’s only a matter of time – September 29, 2005
Apple may eventually introduce its own ‘iPhone’ cell phone-iPod combo and create Apple MVNO – September 12, 2005
If Apple isn’t working on their own iPhone, they’re making a stupid mistake – September 12, 2005
Does Apple need a mobile phone of its own design? – September 09, 2005
Piper Jaffray: Apple should develop ‘iPhone’ by themselves – September 06, 2005
Forbes: Apple Computer planning to become a phone company? – July 08, 2005
Wendland: Bill Gates is right, iPod will be replaced by smartphones – by Apple – May 13, 2005
Is Apple building ‘The Device?’ – December 10, 2002
Apple Registers iPhone Trademark in Australia – December 02, 2002


  1. There will be an Apple phone, and it is due to the fact, and this is a fact, that is Apple sat back and never produced a phone, within 2-3 years time, Cell phones with WMA format, along with Zune-based phones, would be the new dominate products for portable media (in a phone) vs. a media-only iPod solution.

    However, Apple cannot afford to get into bed as it were with current services, becoming no different than Motorola, Samsung, etc…

    Apple must control the entire solution from stem to stern in order to differentiate and ultimately – win.

    Apple cares about one thing – winning – and they will do that buy becoming a MVNO, via T-Mobile and delivering a state-of-the-art phone and solution to the market place.

    Apple will again play work over the model of giving away the blades to sell the razor (not phone razor pun intended).

    Monthly service fees will be very price competitive in minutes, but deliver the user a host of services standard, vs. the competition which nickles and dimes its users $4.99 here and $9.99 a month there.

    The Phone will be in a typical iPod range, with perhaps $50 off when signing up for a two-year plan.

    By the time the phone and service arrives, Apple will have sold 80 million+ iPods, and have a massive iTunes install base nearing the 100 million PC range.

    Count on Apple to sell 20 million+ phones in the first year in the US alone, making easy conversions of millions of iPod owners, along with new switchers…

    Apple will quickly become the 3rd or 4th largest service provider in the country.

  2. Like I said before Cingular sucks

    At its introductory price of $50, it’s cheaper than almost all other portable music players

    It’s because it’s a loss leader, sell you a whiz bang phone at a loss and make up for it in content/talk time sales.

    On the other hand Apple sells a music device for a profit and makes nearly nothing on the content.

    Apple caters to those who like to own their music free and clear, to do with it as they wish.

    On the other hand, subscriptions rent music and one can’t do what they wish with the music, costs more in the long run.

    Of course one can steal subscription music and be a real cheap bastard.

    The RIAA is so afraid of iTunes domination that they turn a blind eye to billions of dollars in profit lost to subscription ripoff methods.

  3. Dear, dear John you could have been famous with a less common moniker, for such foolish talk has just put you in the same league as the guy who said the Beatles would never ever be a hit. Actually I can’t remember who he was either.

  4. “The RIAA is so afraid of iTunes domination that they turn a blind eye to billions of dollars in profit lost to subscription ripoff methods.”


    How is the RIAA afraid of iTunes?

    The RIAA loves iTunes. It’s all the other music retailers that hate iTunes…

  5. “Guys, there is no phone. Get over it. It is just a rumour.”

    Are you kidding? This is irrefutable proof that there is a iPhone and it will be teamed with Cingular!

    See what he said? “If I knew, I’d have to tell you ‘I don’t know.” This was right after he said, “I don’t know.”

    Thus, he knows that there will be an iPhone. He also knows that it will have a 24″ screen yet still fit in your pocket, be able to make free phone calls from wifi hotspots, weigh 1 oz, will run Mac OS X, Windows, or Linux with free virtualization software, have a battery life of 72 hours, pick up and record satellite radio, DAB, DTV, FM, AM, TV (VHF and UHF), shortwave, and police band.

    ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”LOL” style=”border:0;” />

  6. “So, is Apple making a phone or not?…

    I don’t know, actually [laughs]. Fortunately, I don’t know. Because if I knew … I’d have to tell you … then I’d have to kill you” [laughs].

  7. 3G phones have been available for ATLEAST 3 years here in Sweden. USA is a damn third world country when it comes to cellphones! Here you get FREE gprs(meaning video-calls for those who want it) and regular calls for about 15 us dollars/month. Catch up damn it!

  8. Easy, there Emil! Keep in mind that the US is over 10 times larger in area and has over 30 times more people than Sweden. It’s gonna take a little longer to wire us in! We’re impatient for better access, too…

    Just a note, though – you don’t get free gprs. You may not be paying for the service, but someone is, sure as hell.

Reader Feedback

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.