“The Mermaid, Puddle Dock, is not the first place you might go in search of the cool and cutting edge. That will not stop an expectant crowd gathering at the conference centre in London’s Blackfriars this week for a live satellite broadcast from San Francisco that could make or break one of the consumer icons of the Western world,” David Smith writes for The Observer.
MacDailyNews Take: Tuesday’s media event “could make or break” Apple? Damn, you know for sure they’ve got some strong stuff in London now. We’re getting a contact high from all the way over here across the pond.
Smith continues, “The iPod, the digital music player beloved of everyone from Coldplay’s Chris Martin to President George Bush, is in danger of losing its sheen. Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate. Industry experts talk of a ‘backlash’ and of the iPod ‘wilting away before our eyes.'”
MacDailyNews Note: iPod unit sales:
• Q4 03: 336,000
• Q1 04: 733,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 04: 807,000
• Q3 04: 860,000
• Q4 04: 2,016,000
• Q1 05: 4,580,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 05: 5,311,000
• Q3 05: 6,155,000
• Q4 05: 6,451,000
• Q1 06: 14,043,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 06: 8,526,000
• Q3 06: 8,111,000
During no quarter have year-over-year iPod sales declined.
Smith continues, “On Tuesday the eyes of iPod-lovers the world over will be on Steve Jobs, the co-founder and chief executive of Apple, when he seeks to allay fears that it could follow Sony’s tape-playing Walkman into the recycling bin of history.”
MacDailyNews Take: Whose fears?
Smith continues, “Analysts warn that the iPod has passed its peak. From its launch five years ago its sales graph showed a consistent upward curve, culminating in a period around last Christmas that saw a record 14 million sold. But sales fell to 8.5 million in the following quarter, and down to 8.1 million in the most recent three-month period. Wall Street is reportedly starting to worry that the bubble will burst. Tomi Ahonen, a technology brand expert and author, said: ‘For the first time the iPod has had two consecutive falls after 17 quarters of growth. If I were the manager, I would be wanting my people to explain what is going on. The iPod is wilting away before our eyes.'”
MacDailyNews Take: Again, during no quarter have year-over-year iPod sales declined. And Christmas comes but once a year.
Smith continues, “The company is facing growing competition on every front. Last week Amazon launched a digital TV and film download service in the US, and the supermarket giant Wal-Mart is in talks with Hollywood studios about a similar website. Later this year a new online music store, SpiralFrog, will undercut iTunes by offering a huge catalogue of music for free while relying on advertising for its income. MySpace, the immensely popular social networking site, also poses a threat. Three out of every four MP3 players sold are iPods, but the device could be challenged later this year by Zune, the contender from Microsoft, whose billionaire founder Bill Gates is not used to losing. Samsung is also betting heavily on its new K5, which has the option of built-in loudspeakers.”
MacDailyNews Take: Is this a comedy piece?
Smith continues, “James Beechinor-Collins, editor-in-chief of T3 consumer gadgets magazine, added: ‘It’s cool across the board: everyone from my seven-year-old niece to my 60-year-old uncle has one. But as the leader Apple needs to keep innovating, not resting on its laurels. We haven’t seen a new product for a year, so Tuesday’s announcement had better be bloody good.'”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: This is a semi-annual article that’s dusted from time to time for republication. The formula: Ignore cyclical holiday buying patterns to show “declines” in iPod sales, dig up some out-of-context focus group lines that iPod is “losing its cool,” and insert this year’s “threats” to iPod+iTunes (oh, David, basic iPod FUD 101: you forgot “iPod scratches,” dummy). Then we’ll have Apple’s announcements, new iPod quarterly sales figures that show continued year-over-year increases and the article will be forgotten until Smith and/or his insipid ilk dust it off to rerun next year. In short, it’s boring, old, recycled FUD.
On May 23, 2006, Credit Suisse analyst Robert Semple wrote in a report to clients, “We believe Apple is still in the early stages of its product expansion and that the company can grow its iPod units at least 20% for the foreseeable future.” Peter Kang reported for Forbes, “The analyst’s prediction comes from what he sees as the low penetration rate of the iPod, estimated at about 10% of PC users, or an ‘active installed base’ of about 40 million units worldwide. One region looking ripe for growth is Europe, which has an estimated penetration rate of 7.1% compared with 15.5% for the United States, according to Credit Suisse. In addition, customers appear to be replacing their iPods with new models quicker; Semple estimates the current ‘lifecycle’ of the iPod at approximately 1.5 years, down from two years. The Credit Suisse analyst compared the current pace of iPod shipments to that of the Sony Walkman and Discman portable music players. ‘We believe that over time Apple’s iPod can easily exceed Sony’s 309 million cumulative Walkman and Discman shipments,’ he said. ‘For comparison, it took Sony over 10 years to sell 50 million Walkmans, while Apple reached the same milestone in half the time despite lower market share and stiffer competition.'” Full article here.
Contact info: Stephen Pritchard, Readers’ Editor, The Observer, 3-7 Herbal Hill, London EC1R 5EJ, tel 020 7713 4656, reader@observer.co.uk
[UPDATE 11:28am EDT: Added Credit Suisse analyst Semple’s notes on iPod market saturation and estimates for iPod cumulative shipments.]
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Apple should be a LITTLE worried. While the article is definitely over the top… the fact remains that for the last two quarters iPod sales have declined.
Sooner or later, the iPod will lose dominance just as the Walkman did, no matter how much MDN likes to pretend it will NEVER happen. What Apple must do is make sure it stays on top for as long as it possibly can… and to that end, Tuesday’s announcement better be good.
And even if the iPod fad is over, something new is very likely to come along. Fruity-colored Apple iMacs were all the rage when they came out, but that fad died away and Apple discontinued the line. So maybe the iPod was only the device of the turn of the century. Perhaps tomorrow (er, Tuesday) it will be the Apple TV or the Apple Personal Do-Everything Assistant (PDA).
The point is that yes, some products will never be incredibly hot forever. Old clunky PCs were all the rage, but they are beginning to lose their market. Ice boxes were once all the rage, but they gave way to refridgerators. I can keep doing this ad nauseum.
Apple is an intelligent enough company to know that iPods fill a certain niche but not a basic need of existence (like, say, Refridgerators). Consequently, there will always be something new to keep the consumer’s interest. Apple will still be on the map. Maybe 20 years from now the iPod won’t, but there will be other stuff down the line.
Apple is not a one-trick pony.
Microsoft, on the other hand…
Funny how these articles never mention what people are buying instead. Could it just be that the iPod is reaching saturation point and everyone has one?
the uk media is controlled by murdoch
who is in bill gates’ pocket
figure it out
the daily mail is even more anti-apple / ipod
David Smith fails to mention how other digital music player sales are also performing over time. Are we seeing a saturated market or are users looking at other devices other than iPod? If users are buying devices other than iPods, what features are driving them to purchase alternate products or is consumer selection simply a matter of price? After reading Smith’s less than informative blather I am left with more questions than answers.
I think the point should be that even without new iPods this year, either model refreshes or a new form factor (for example the introduction of the shuffle in Q2 2005), that Apple are will probably sell 38 million units this year.
Of course if Apple do not come up with something major, they will start to lose both sales and market share.
Hopefully they will introduce products for the Xmas season. I myself am waiting for a new video ipod.
AAPL is doomed!
Hah!
Listen: I attended the Grand Opening of the Apple Store Carrefour Laval in Quebec today. The place was packed. So … I got my freebie AppleT-shirt and strutted it around on the city streets of Montreal for several hours afterward. On the front of the T-shirt there’s nothing but a little teensy weensy white Apple Logo followed by the words ‘Carrefour Laval’ in little tiny white lettering.
Regardless as to the subdued nature of the logo and lettering however, every teenager that I encountered on the streets of Montreal riveted their focus onto that AppleT-shirt and kept it there until we had passed each other.
Apple has mind-share locked in. Absolutely. Apple isn’t going to lose jack squat in any market any time soon.
YouTube Video of today’s Laval Apple Store Grand Opening:
Well, Apple certainly didn’t wait until this coming Tuesday to bump the iMac or mini lines, so that fueling the speculation that “there’s got to be something more coming” and all the focus is on iPod… not necessarily a bad thing for Apple to have to be dealing with unless, of course, everyone’s expectations get all bent out of whack when they don’t hear what they want to hear because THEY THEMSELVES allowed it to happen. No matter what Apple announces, it will be met with those who instantly complain that Apple didn’t do this or didn’t do that. Well, they very likely weren’t sitting in the boardroom, or in the managers’ offices, or in the design labs or on the production floor or in packaging when those things were happening, now, were they?
Just go with the flow and let what happens happen. Feel free to speculate and chase rumors and listen intently to the announcements this coming Tuesday, but DON’T BLAME APPLE when your over-the-top hopes are wrong. It does you, and them, no good.
“She added that the iPod is in danger of becoming a victim of its own success: ‘Some backlash is against the ubiquity of the iPod – everyone has those white headphones on the train.”
Reminds me of Yogi Berra’s famous line.
“Nobody goes there anymore…it’s too crowded.”
I have got two iPods and do not need a third one …
This is another doom-and-gloom article that will be forgotten this Tuesday. Remember all the “iPod killer” articles we were hearing earlier this year? Annually, we hear about how the iPod is dying and losing its cool…then Apple releases something like the iPod nano.
Connor MacBook: Funny how these articles never mention what people are buying instead. Could it just be that the iPod is reaching saturation point and everyone has one?
Indeed. Sales numbers are irrelevant here. What’s important is how much of the total MP3 player marketshare belongs to Apple. When THAT begins to decline, only then can the iPod be said to be “fading”.
The Brits are still sore for the losing the colonies.
Let us not forget that many people have older generation iPods. Now that everyone has an iPod, everyone will have two :-D. Who can resist whatever orgasmic lust-worthy iPod Apple will churn out in the not-so-distant future?
I think the 12 September 2006 announcement will come down to this:
1. Apple will unveil a successor to the iPod Nano. It will look like a reduced-size version of the old iPod Mini, with a scratchproof case and (larger) display and flash memory storage in sizes of 8 GB, 6 GB and (possibly) 4 GB.
2. The regular hard disk-storage iPods will also switch to a scratchproof case and display, and hard drive capacities will increase to 40 GB and 80 GB.
3. Apple will make some announcement on a true video iPod with a almost case-sized 16:9 aspect ratio display, touchscreen controls and hard disk storage around 100 GB. However, don’t expect a production version until MacWorld Expo in January 2007.
Hello, I don’t know if anyone’s noticed, but I am irretrievably locked to iPod+iTunes. Half my music is DRM for Mac. What am I going to do? Burn that many CDS and then import them again? No thanks.
iPods are expensive. You keep one for a while. Then you’ll get another one.
I really don’t understand the eagerness to predict Apple’s doom. It’s just odd. What is that all about?
The British. I wonder if he wrote this wear women’s underwear……probably.
Maybe if you were British, you’d learn to spell properly?
“The British. I wonder if he wrote this wearing women’s underwear……probably.”
Or does The British. I wonder if he wrote this wear women’s underwear……probably. count as proper American-English?
“I have got two iPods and do not need a third one …”
Harry, bet you once said “I have got an iPod and do not need a second one …”
What’s happening is ‘deacceleration’, a natural levelling out of the market.
I sent this e-mail to the Observer:-
CODSWALLOP!
If the growth of iPod sales had continued at the same rate as in the first few years, in the very near future every man, woman, and child on the planet would have to have two or three iPods in their pockets.
Go on, work it out!
Even David Smith must see that and perhaps have even heard of ‘necessary deacceleration’;
but on second thoughts, probably not, because his article is a load of codswallop and betrays a total lack of perception and understanding.
How does somebody that bad get a job on a newspaper with international renown?
Who doesn´t already own an iPod?
My son just got a new Samsung phone – has an MP3 player in it. He now leaves his iPod at home….
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And MDN, Sales of iPods continually increased each quarter until Q2 2006. This is troubling news.
Q1 2005 to Q2 2005 sales increased about 25% and continued to go up each quarter.
Q1 2006 to Q2 2006 sales DEcreased about 40%….and have gone down each quarter.
LordRobin: “What’s important is how much of the total MP3 player marketshare belongs to Apple. When THAT begins to decline, only then can the iPod be said to be “fading”.”
Your logic is faulty. An example to show you why:
If the total number of MP3 sales is 100,000 a month and Apple sells 75,000 is has 75% of the Market.
If the total number of MP3 sales drop to 10,000 a month and Apple sells 7,500 APPLE STILL has 75% of the Market.
Even though Apple still maintains its marketshare, sales suck for Apple and everyone else. The importance of marketshare has less meaning as an accounting tool if total product sales are diving.
I see a migration to cellphone as the place for MP3 players. Why carry multiple gadgets when you can carry one?
I sent the guy a mail:
Dear sir,
When you base an article on an assumption, make sure your info is correct. Your FUD article about the Apple iPod apparently is based on a MS sponsored dream or a short trip to a parallel universe. The sales of ipods NEVER declined as these figures show:
• Q4 03: 336,000
• Q1 04: 733,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 04: 807,000
• Q3 04: 860,000
• Q4 04: 2,016,000
• Q1 05: 4,580,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 05: 5,311,000
• Q3 05: 6,155,000
• Q4 05: 6,451,000
• Q1 06: 14,043,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 06: 8,526,000
• Q3 06: 8,111,000
Not really melting away..is it?
Cheers,
xxxxxx (stripped)
And if you face it: it’s not about who’s wrong or right….it’s about “fighting” back! I love the mac and i just hate it when the MS sponored world starts naggin’ and spreading FUD….time to kick back
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flappo: Murdoch doesn’t own the Observer – it belongs to the fiercely independent Scott Trust, along with the Guardian, the Guardian Online and the Manchester Evening News – see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian
Having said that, the Observer and the Guardian (the most liberal of our national newspapers) have never been other than lukewarm about Apple, which is surprising, given their readership.
Flappo said
“the uk media is controlled by murdoch
who is in bill gates’ pocket
figure it out
the daily mail is even more anti-apple / ipod”
Neither the Observer (owned by Scott Trust) nor the Daily Mail (owned by Associated Newspapers) are Murdoch titles. By all means criticise the Observer’s article, or even the anti-Apple slant it and it’s sister paper The Guardian frequently take, but don’t talk rubbish in the process.
As for the article itself, considering the 8 million units a quarter translates to 75% of the MP3 player market, I don’t think Apple are too worried just yet. In the meantime, the rise in Mac sales means profits are still rising, which I would think keeps Wall St. more than happy.
The only concern Apple should have is about not becoming complacent. So far everyone who has tried has failed to beat them or even match them, however that doesn’t mean no-one will and as has been shown by the dominance of windows, their is no guarantee that the best products become the most popular/used.
I love the logic that just because Amazon have launched a service it means they’re automatically a danger to Apple, they’re only a danger if the service works, offers good prices, offers a good selection or any combination which in turn, and most importantly makes them popular. You’re only a danger to a successful product/service if you in turn are successful.
Sadly journalism nowadays is only about hyping new things and destroying the established, there is no middle ground, there is no simple reporting of the facts and letting them speak for themselves. It is all about opinion and in order for opinion to be interesting it largely has to be seen as in opposition to something nowadays. When iPod is new it’s great, when it becomes established it turns to shit.
The Observer is a leftist rag that reeks with envy — they hate competence, quality and success and thus hate Apple. And the writers are journalists, most of whom are clueless and write outrageous garbage because they have deadlines, not because they have knowledge. Just save the link MDN, so that when this twit writes another fairy tale in the future, you can point out his past drug induced outburst.
And exactly what is out there to replace the iPod as it falls from grace?
Nothing my friends, nothing.
Another example of so called experts wearing underwear a few sizes too small.
Leo
Start quote
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Please would the Guardian Newspaper, a once respected organ of the British press, please make some original observations on the subjects it reports on, in this case weeks after the event.
Your article titled “Why the iPod is losing its cool” dated September 10th, 2006, written (?) by David Smith
The original article, dated July 20 is available here: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2006/07/demise_of_a_dar.html
I would suggest to you that if you are to find expert sources you run a few checks to ensure that their statements have not already been dismissed and their factual basis is not fundamentally impaired as it is in this case. I would refer you to a handful of sources to find this information, though there are many more of them available:
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2006/07/demise_of_a_dar.html
http://www.forumoxford.com/
http://www.macformat.co.uk/page/macformat?entry=the_demise_of_apple
http://money.cnn.com/blogs/browser/2006/07/is-ipod-dominant-or-dead-meat.html
An identifiable characteristic appears to be the one stated most clearly by one contributor who commented as follows on the assertions of Mr Ahonen on his iPod sales assertions:
“This article was one of the most laughable I’d ever read. To lump in music playing cell phones into the calculation is grasping for straws.”
My own contribution to the debate is summarised as follows:
“The REALLY funny thing about all this is going to be the look on Tomi Ahonen’s face when Apple shortly announce the next generation iPods, probably full screen, touch screen navigation etc etc. and subsequently, SALES OF IPODS WILL SPIRAL AGAIN.
Of course people are going to use music phones. Apple have even recognised this and we all know their phone, which is predicted for launch in 2007, is likely to turn that market upside down too.
But to spout the absurd notion that the iPod is already dead is sheer moronic stupidity. And I will be emailing Mr Ahonen future figures and I will expect to hear the sound of his grovelling apologies.
Thankfully the customer is king, and a few rabid ranters like Ahonen are not going to make a jot of difference to anything.”
Why can’t your journalists spend a few minutes presenting some rational views? Or is this the standard your readership upholds?
In the modern, iPod vernacular I say to you: a special thank you to the Guardian for its upholding of journalistic standards -not- and it’s inciteful -not- regurgitation of fifth hand, dated and impaired material.
” End quote.
He certainly beat his deadline with a finely crafted steaming cowpie.
“. . . wilting away before our eyes” – Smith should stop looking down for inspiration.
Hey Observer, DIE IN A FIRE!
London is cool, will always be cool.
Just questioning whether iPod is cool makes iPod not cool.
Every gadget and gimmick has its day in the sun, its burst of fame. Sooner or later everything goes out of fashion. Even the iPod.
Music in a small digital player was a cool gimmick, gadget. iPod caught the wave. But a digitize music player is a commodity to be stuffed in a cell phone.
And Apple computers have been cool for a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time and still only a tiny group of repeat buyers purchase them.
The CACAA (currently approved cliche against Apple) is “Taking a bite out of Apple”.
davinci: “And exactly what is out there to replace the iPod as it falls from grace?”
That´s probably what the film camera guys were saying to themselves about their cameras before digital cameras came out.
What will replace the iPod is the cellphone that also is an MP3 player. People want to simplify their lives; fewer gadgets to lose, keep track of. Putting the MP3 player in the cellphone is the beginning of the end for the iPod. Apple will have to bring out an phone with an MP3 player in it…and a blackberry version phone, too. Expect at least two different phones from Apple.
You people that live in the US do not realize how behind the times you are with cellphone service. You would be amazed what one can do in Korea and Europe with their cellphones that can´t be done in the USA.
Read an article the other day that said the US is at least 1 1/2 years behind Korean cellphone service.
“How does somebody that bad get a job on a newspaper with international renown?”
Peter principle and/or blow the publisher.
Sent to the Observer.
Dear Sir,
Could you please forward this to David Smith, regarding his faulty article on the demise of the iPod? Thanks.
This is a semi-annual article that’s dusted from time to time for republication.
The formula: Ignore cyclical holiday buying patterns to show “declines” in iPod sales, dig up some out-of-context focus group lines that iPod is “losing its cool,” and insert this year’s “threats” to iPod+iTunes (David, you forgot to use ‘iPod scratches,).
New iPod quarterly sales figures that show continued year-over-year increases.
The article will be forgotten until Smith and/or his insipid ilk dust it off to rerun next year.
In short, it’s boring old recycled FUD.
David, these are the numbers for sales of the iPod.
iPod unit sales:
• Q4 03: 336,000
• Q1 04: 733,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 04: 807,000
• Q3 04: 860,000
• Q4 04: 2,016,000
• Q1 05: 4,580,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 05: 5,311,000
• Q3 05: 6,155,000
• Q4 05: 6,451,000
• Q1 06: 14,043,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 06: 8,526,000
• Q3 06: 8,111,000
During no quarter have year-over-year iPod sales declined
We all know there is a saturation point where a product has finally sold as many units as it can no matter how good (or bad) it is, so we might as well admit it and get used to it: The Observer has reached its saturation point.
Damn Yankee.
“The Brits are still sore for the losing their cojones.”
Ex Brit. New Yank.
of course, the u.s news media has jumped all over this one, check out drudgereport.com, they have a link to the observer article there also. it seems people are happy to hear the FUD about the iPod sales.
Zune trounces iPod, film@11 (FUD)
The Walkman went away because something better came along, the CD player. What’s better than an MP3 player right now? Nothing.
The MP3 player will be around for a long time. Checkmate, Apple.
Sensationalism. And the media wonders why they are losing clout and the respect of the citizenry.
Voyager (Veeger?),
Are you as bad at math as that bozo in London? Did you see MDN’s breakdowns of the quarterly sales items?
You make youself look STUPID by saying what you said. Okay?
Bozo
S.
Even I know Drudge is a right-wing idiot who is the online equivalent of the National Enquierer!
Bizzaro Ballmer “What’s better than an MP3 player right now?”
Answer: An MP3 player on a cellphone.
GWM,
Are you by any chance female? I can think of other reasons why everyone you passed on the street was looking at your t-shirt.
I read this last night and found it flawed.
I think there’s a few things.
First, the market is not saturated. Many many people do not have iPods or any MP3 player.
If iPod his mass market, it may not be “trendy” for teens, but Apple still makes money from the rest of us.
iPod sales are declining, but remember that there has been no serious update in quite a while.
I don’t think phones/mp3 players are yet a threat. But maybe that’s just me. I don’t have a cell and don’t want one. Nor do I want a phone that plays music. I just want an iPod to carry around thousands and thousands of songs, not just a few hundred.
The responses from the survey are odd. iPod batteries are replaceable. Sure, not easy, but you can do it. That shows a lack of knowledge.
The overestimation of the competition is really bizarre. Amazon is getting hammered about its Unboxed service. Microsoft is no threat. And whoopty doo, that other player has external speakers. Yay. I’m not saying the next big thing isn’t out there. I’m saying, these aren’t it.
And also, this whole article is based on Apple’s current offerings. YOu just never know what’s coming. Even if iPod becomes your parent’s player, Apple may have the next “teen, cool” thing in the wings.
Overall, the story seems like propaganda to me.
The announcement is coming this week so this fud maker can go to Microsoft’s zune kitchen because Apple isn’t even headed in that direction by a long shot. Apple doesn’t put out Alpha products like Amazon’s unboxed which should be boxed back up again and thrown right back. Apple doesn’t put out beta copies of hardware either. I’m sure the latest and greatest iPod will be well worth the wait when it comes out and make the zune look like an old prune.
And even if there is a slight decline in iPod sales doesn’t mean anyone has gained anything. People may want to wait for the newest iPod so they might slow down on buying until it is announced but it hardly means that Apple’s iPod will just stop selling. It’s to good of a product and to easy to use compared to anything out there.
“Dear sir… The sales of ipods NEVER declined as these figures show:”
MacB,
Either this statement needs some qualification or you need to bone up on your math skills. The last two quarters in the list show DECLINES in sales.
“Sales are declining at an unprecedented rate.”
iPod unit sales:
• Q4 03: 336,000
• Q1 04: 733,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 04: 807,000
• Q3 04: 860,000
• Q4 04: 2,016,000
• Q1 05: 4,580,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 05: 5,311,000
• Q3 05: 6,155,000
• Q4 05: 6,451,000
• Q1 06: 14,043,000 (holiday quarter)
• Q2 06: 8,526,000
• Q3 06: 8,111,000 (Yea this really looks like it is declining huh)
What is this goof ball talking about and where did he get the inside scoop of declining sales as I have not heard anyone including Apple say anthing about this. And Christimas is coming soon and maybe people are going to hold off for the holiday season but I don’t think that the iPod is going to die off by any means.
I think you’re taking the article waaaay too seriously.
It’s a hatchet job to provoke comment.
The Observer is read by people who are middle-aged, but like to see themselves as still young. They probably have to ask their children “Oi, you! What exactly IS an iPod?”. They run articles on the ‘fling enough mud in enough directions and some of it will stick’ principle. If they say enough outrageous, badly-researched things, and maybe one of them is later shown to come within 200 light years of the truth, they can trumpet; “WE told you first!”
The Observer is rabidly anti-American.
The British press are fools, who like nothing better than knocking a successful product as soon as it becomes successful (especially if it is from across the pond’).
Sunday is ‘doom and gloom’ day across the board in the British press. Try and find an ‘everything is just great!’ headline in a British paper on a Sunday. Never gonna happen.
For all the above (amongst other reasons), and the TV news which is mostly the same – I left the country.
What analysts warned it’s past its peak? I have not read any such reports saying the iPod has past it’s peak. Amazon launched an alpha version of a online movie store that should be called reboxed as it is a total failure with it’s software not working at all and it seems to include spyware that keeps track of what you’re doing. Oh and try and uninstall there amazon player and surprise it won’t let you until you login to Amazon! SPYWARE written all over it. They rushed there launch to try and beat Apple and now they’re going to pay the price for there lack of compatability and shotty software.
Apple is not resting on its laurels by any means and hasn’t stopped inovating since Steve Jobs took over. Everyone knows a new iPod design is coming so even writing something like this is totally FUD. Gates isn’t used to losing. Well guess what he already lost as the iPod and iTunes has 75% of the market share and isn’t budging. Zune doesn’t have a chance as they can’t integrate there hardware and software as good as Apple and never will be able too. And what feature does the Zune offer that is supposed woo people over, an FM radio. Where have we heard that feature before? On just about every other manufacturer of MP3 players. And what was the result? Total failure! So I don’t think Apple has anything to worry about and I’m sure there right on track with a new inovative iPod that won’t have an FM radio in it either.
The reason the link to this was on Drudge is because he likes to show how the media sensationalizes and lies and blows out of proportion and creates and fictionalizes. That’s all. The only serious links are usually about hurricane paths, earthquakes, tornadoes, liberals, and other destructive forces of nature.
To all those idiots that think that listening to MP3’s on their cell phones will replace the stand alone MP3 player.
I want you to think about the reason you got your first cell phone. You know, that important call from a loved one you did not want to miss. That business call that was worth a lot of money and you couldn’t afford to miss it. That life and death situation where someone’s life could depend on your cell phone. The 9/11 calls where a last call really was a last call.
Do you really want a dead battery in your cell phone/media player when you really need your phone?
All it takes is one lawsuit over a lost life because of a dead battery in a cell phone/media player for cell phones to return to the phone business.
Big Al – Perhaps you are out of touch with the real world. Do you even have a cell phone? The battery goes dead on the cell phone all the time. That´s why they have rechargers.
And when you play music on your MP3 player the phone ring can override the music so you hear the incoming call.
How many life and death situations do you have with your cell phone? Paranoia runs deep in the land of ignorance.
It’s a sad fact that Dvorak-esque FUD plays well to give-me-your-hits journalism. David Smith must be congratulating himself for baiting Apple fans globally.
This guy must have really good set of knee pads to be on them so much in front of Gates.
I love how MDN just blows away the article with that handy chart of sales per quarter. Very nicely done, MDN.
Sadly, Gates banned knee pads when Ballmer yanked the towels.
In reality, there is actually no point complaining to anybody about this piece as the whole thing is arguably “opinion”-led, rather than intelligence-led.
Far better to paste the article into iClip and wait until the results for Q1/07 are posted in early January and then deluge the poor sap with various comments of a gently teasing nature.
Were all of you napping during application of statistical mathematics (read: basic 8th grade math)?
I will grant you the author does not make great effort to spell it out plainly enough for the average reader who coasted through math with C’s and is not active in stock purchasing based on direct research of sales and market-value vs. return potential, but the article is clearly written for the investor-classes, who understand that the concern is a decline in growth percentages, not total sales.
Graph the curve in Excel (or OmniGraffle, etc.), and you will see it visually; it will then make sense to you.
Sadly, Gates banned knee pads when Ballmer yanked the towels.
— Ampar
Didn’t matter. The double was taken by Allchin and a penguin.
“Ex Brit. New Yank.”
You have to learn only half of America/My Country ‘Tis of Thee. You know the tune.
The so-called “expert” that used the word “wilting” is Finnish! That should explain it.
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Why do you have a cell phone? For some people (many? most?) it’s the only phone that they have! Thus the calls you get on it are important. As for “paranoia”, you are aware that a cellphone is often used for emergency communications, especially in places of severe weather (like whiteouts, in the north U.S and Canada)? What about firefighters, policemen, security guards, CIA, travellers, and so on? And even if someone’s only reason for a cellphone was for emergencies, how is that paranoid? Don’t talk about “paranoia” until you crawl out of your box, mmkay? When you need it to work, you need it to work, and you don’t always have the luxury of a charger. Again, shut up.
My first gen is too old asked: “Who can resist whatever orgasmic lust-worthy iPod Apple will churn out in the not-so-distant future?”
Answer: Me.