“The Trusted Computing Group (TCG) has released software specifications that enable developers to create applications that use the Trusted Platform Module 1.2 (TPM) 1.2 security chip,” Tom Sanders reports for vnunet.com. “The TPM is an open industry standard that can be used to securely store and encrypt information… Microsoft relies on the chip for the Bitblocker feature in its forthcoming Windows Vista operating system. The technology will prevent data loss if a laptop computer is stolen by encrypting the contents of the hard drive. Apple is also believed to use the chip in its new Intel powered iMacs and MacBook Pro systems to prevent users from running its OS X operating system on non-Apple hardware. A spokesperson for the computer maker declined to comment on the use of the chip in its systems.”
“The new Trusted Computing Group Software Stack Specification enables applications that use new features that were added in version 1.2 of the security chip,” Sanders reports. “The new version among things supports anonymous attestations, a feature where the security chip will vow for the user’s identity without disclosing any information… Other new features include support for external storage devices, allowing the chip to turn a USB memory key into a security key or to encrypt data on external storage devices. Analyst firm Endpoint Technologies projects that this year 50 million systems will ship with a TPM.”
Full article here.
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A USB flash drive as a key to your computer would be cool.
First post! I’m so excited! not.
A USB flash drive as a key to your computer would be cool.
First post! I’m so excited! not.
A USB flash drive as a key to your computer would be cool.
First post! I’m so excited! not.
A USB flash drive as a key to your computer would be cool.
First post! I’m so excited! not.
I don’t think I like this.
Trusted computing as in;
If they frigging trusted you they wouldn’t need this frigging chip.
Something that comes to mind is Homeland Security, NSA and domestic surveillance, and I’m not sure what the nexus is (possibly because of my own internal encryption?). What are the implications as far as retrieving information from a laptop confiscated from a suspected terrorist when this kind of hardware-based security is implemented? In certain cases, I’d like to think that any type of encryption isn’t totally impenetrable, but then again, I have nothing to hide….
MW: Others, as in… others are listening!
Who was that?
Read the truth about “trusted computing”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing
It’s going to lock down our computers, music, software, you name it.
Combined with EFI
EFI also allows the operating system to run in a sandbox mode, where networking and memory management issues are delegated to the firmware instead of the OS. Attempts by the OS to access the hardware are converted to calls to the EFI drivers. The EFI is also used to select and load the operating system, removing the need for a boot loader. EFI is one of the pieces of the framework necessary to implement Trusted Computing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface
Is another of the evil Intel’s creation.
Oh yes kiddies, Mactels are no longer under our control.
The last, best and most powerful “Free” Mac is a Quad.
Get one now, as the future is going to be very restricitve.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
Oh!, has the company Intel popped up in all my links by accident?
Does one really think now that Apple switched because they couldn’t get a cool G5 processor?
Maybe IBM didn’t bother with a cool G5 processor because they knew Apple had to switch to Intel processors because of all the EFI, DRM HDCP and Trusted Computing coming down the pipe.
Steve sold us out to the content creators.
Get a Quad if you want to play for the next 7 years. Best we can do.
Well lets try this again shall we? MDN?
Learn the truth about trusted computing here and also search for HDCP and EFI, Mactels are not under our control.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing
MDN: “change”
Darn I hate how Safari fails to render a updated page correctly, even when one clears the cache.
Since_llci, you have a classic case of paranoia, very common to US types. Dare I say, unblinking, doey eyed, propaganda fodder.
Wasn’t the guy who invented PGP put in jail because he would tell your security services how to crack the encryption?
Freedom would rock if you or anybody had it.
Boy am I grumpy today.
TC, EFI and HDCP are hardware based. With changing and revokable keys. Not static or software based like Macrovision is, where all one has to do is find the single key.
Since_llci, correction, I meant to say that the guy who invented PGP was put in jail because he wouldn’t tell the security services how to unencyrpt PGP.
Gee Whizz, I though you US types held Milton Friedman as the ideal in economics. Don’t you know Government is BAD, especially one that spies on it’s own people. Government’s job is to get the F$?CK out of peoples lives and be as small as possible. Currently, in the UK, we have BIG BIG Government so I’m feeling nauseous!
AWidgetHeHasNot
Put these in your Google-Earth (40º 41′ 20″N 74º 00′ 02″W), try sitting on the roof and watching the Twin Towers fall to the ground. Paranoid? That was no delusion my friend, neither was the stench that followed for over a month, nor is the continued and vowed threat. Give me a chuckle and tell me you might think Theo Van Gogh was paranoid too? I hate bringing politics into the MDN fray, but I suppose I opened the door. I certainly don’t condone spying on civilians, but if an Al-Qaeda operative’s computer is found in Bajaur, Pakistan (or anywhere else for that matter), I’d like to know someone can dig through the contents. That was (and is) my point.
MW:city, as in bullseye
Since_IIci, fair point. It’s just that I see the long view, and it’s also a fair point that Terrorim is the new McCarthyism, which you must realise. Anyway, like you say, enough politics on MDN for today. I see your intelligence, so I will not say anymore regarding this matter. I’m sure you’re fully aware of the troubles in the UK of late and the past 30 years.
Dear AWidgetHeHasNot:
You said:
“Put these in your Google-Earth (40º 41′ 20″N 74º 00′ 02″W), try sitting on the roof and watching the…”
Q: How does one “input” those coordinates (correctly) into Google Earth? I cannot seem to find how to pop in the coordinates anywhere. I tried up in the search area but perhaps I have the syntax incorrect for the Latitude and Longitude? Anyone know?
Thanks.
– DogaDoga
All you tree huggers who say terrorism is the new McCarthyism make me sick. Just wait until one of these sick f*cks nukes a major city or two. Muslims are not friends of the west. They do not care to police themselves. They need to ban all radical religous schools yesterday! Start preaching acceptance of other religions and cultures and women’s rights and get out of the cave man era and into the 21st century.
ditto Marty
Marty and Ron
I am not a “tree hugger” I am what you would call a Republican. I am intelligent however.
You are not intelligent if you think terrorism is the new McCarthyism. You are cross wired.
Booo. Hissss. Jeers. Stay away from my computer.
I agree with you Marty. Ban the fanatical religious schools. I’ve got a ton of those fanatical Christian schools right here in Virginia that need to be closed down now. They are teaching hatred and intolerance.
The concept behind the paranoia of McCarthyism said there were many Commies amoung us. There weren’t. The paranoia was false.
The concept behind the paranoia of Terrorism says there are many terrorists amoung us. Every free, modern western country has many radical Muslims amoung it’s immigrant populations. The paranoia is real.
McCarthyism was bogus, Terrorism is not. Big difference.
Big Al,
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll be sure to keep a look out for all these radical Muslims in my neighborhood. Honestly, I’m more concerned about the radical Christians in my neighborhood.
Meant manipulating public fear for private gain.
That’s EXACTLY what Bush and his corporate sponsors are doing.
Terrorists are real. Bush’s handling of them is dishonest and dangerous. It plays right into the enemy’s hands, in fact. It harms America worse than the enemy does, because it GIVES away the ideals we stand for without even a fight. Kinda like MacCarthyism…
Forget all the other extremist groups. Have you seen the latest surge in radical extremist Hindu’s?! These people load up on spoiled curry and detonate themselves in public places. The damage is far far worse than a “dirty bomb”.
(sigh) And this was turning out to be such a good thread, too… In a deperate attempt to turn it back on topic:
People love to bitch about the TPM, but they don’t say what they plan to do about it. I fear there’s very little they can do. Refuse to buy anything with a TPM in it, you say? Good luck with that approach, as your options dwindle and your hardware becomes incompatible with everything else.
I’m afraid the TPM and DRM in general aren’t going away. For one thing, there simply isn’t the hue and cry about it that you’d think from reading MDN or Slashdot. Try asking an average consumer about TPM or DRM, and I doubt the majority of them could even tell you what the letters stand for.
The only hope of stopping TPM or DRM is a massive outcry from the general consumer, but so far only the geeks have been screaming. I’d guess that most people won’t even notice the TPM restrictions once they’re in place.
Okay, somebody needs to go back and take their SAT test again to learn how to do analogies.
“Terrorim is the new McCarthyism”
Besides not being able to spell Terrorism correctly, this comparison is backwards (whether you agree with the intended point or not). It should be:
“Anti-terrorism is the new McCarthyism” or
“Terrorism is the new Communism”
As long as we are going to make observations and clarify definitions:
Christianity is the new Fascism.
Fascism is the new Democracy.
Right-Wing political ideology is the same old Down Syndrome.
The Department of Homeland Security is the new Gestapo/KGB.
Darth Cheney is pure evil. George W. is the single most retarded rodeo clown to ever (mostly) walk upright. Condelezza is proof that no amount of advanced education can make an idiot smart. Rumsfeld is less intelligent than a Nebraska biology student. The US Supreme court would lose a mock trial to a class of Oakland preschool toddlers (witness the court’s utterly moronic findings in Bush v Gore 2000 where they stomped all over State’s Rights and completely bastardized the Equal Protection clause). The US Supreme Court are all a bunch of GOAT F_CKERS and the retards in the Bush Admin took lotsa pictures of them F_CKING GOATS when they all went on a GOAT F_CKING retreat together in 1999.
Hi again,
Still wondering if anyone can help me out here:
Q: How does one “input” those coordinates (correctly) into Google Earth? I cannot seem to find how to pop in the coordinates anywhere. I tried up in the search area but perhaps I have the syntax incorrect for the Latitude and Longitude? Anyone know?
Thanks.
DogaDoga
Bush and Cheney are the best two people that we could ever hope to be running things in this period of time. You evil terrorist, liberal, nut cases can all go to hell. You people won’t be happy until a terrorist is handing yours and your family’s heads back to you on a platter. Get a clue losers.
Again, I totally concur with MacDude all the way.
Trusted Computing (oh what a sweet sounding name) is going to control what you can and cannot do with YOUR PURCHASED SOFTWARE and YOUR PURCHASED MEDIA. It’s going to lock you down tighter than a Sony rootkit.
I don’t like it one bit, NOT because I want to pirate “warez” (I DO NOT PIRATE. PERIOD.). I don’t like it because it’s going to control something I OWN. This chip is going into cell phones, PDAs etc. etc. Right now we have IP addresses. This is sort of like a hardware based IP address or unique identifier. Basically, it’ll say, “Hello this is [insert your name here]’s computer”. And they’re just quietly rolling it out. Really, they need to call it Distrusted Computing. Want to make more than one backup copy of something “jut in case”?, well maybe that certain vendor won’t let you. Want to watch a movie on your Mac? – maybe Sony will only let you do it twice and then lock it down. There are some good uses for it, such as stopping spam dead in it’s tracks, but the negatives FAR outweigh the positives. Call me extreme, but TC is bordering on being unconstitutional.
LordRobin – point well taken.
I’ve posted this before but I’ll post it here again for reference:
Go to http://www.poweruser.tv scroll down to Episode 20. Download the full show – fast forward to about 7:15 and have a listen for the next 15-20 minutes. It’s an interesting discussion and will give you the basics of what TC is all about.
DISCLOSURE: I have no affiliation with poweruser.tv
Hi All,
If you ahve not seen this excellent (and frightening) QT video about “Trusted” Computing, you owe it to yourself to watch it now.
Go here:
http://www.lafkon.net/tc/
– Doga
Doga
EXCELLENT VIDEO. Everyone – please check this out. This is a serious issue and I am NOT fear mongering!!!