“At Lotusphere next week, the IBM Software Group is poised to announce updated Mac OS X support in the latest Notes client. In addition, the company will pledge big-time support for the new Intel-based Macs due later this year, sources said. IBM’s Workplace Portal and Collaboration group, often known simply as Lotus, fields the Domino collaboration server, Notes client and Workplace portfolios,” Barbara Darrow reports for CRN. “The older Notes 6.5 client supports Mac OS 10.3 but thus far the current Notes 7 client has not. While Macs comprise a small percentage of business desktops, their users constitute a very vocal and influential minority, solution providers said.”
Darrow reports, “Some might say since Apple switched to Intel over IBM’s PowerPC chips last year, the two companies would be at odds, but they both face Microsoft on many fronts. While not commenting specifically on Lotusphere plans, Judith Hurwitz, president of Hurwitz & Associates, Waltham, Mass., said she expects IBM to do all it can, once again, to marginalize Windows. ‘They do not want Windows to be the gate to everything,’ she said.”
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This is great news.
Now, if only we could get those 50 million “applications” written in MS Access ported across to OS X, we’d be doing simply super on the desktop in the average office.
Now, if only we could get those 50 million “applications” written in MS Access ported across to OS X, we’d be doing simply super on the desktop in the average office.
That’s a job for FileMaker (owned by Apple)! FileMaker is available for both OS X and Windows. I believe it has some degree of Access import/translate, but the process is not seamless or complete.
I have heard there is already a low key (underground?) group of individuals moving their business’ desktop databases to FileMaker on Windows, with the long term goal of moving them to FileMakwer on Macs. More power to them!
The real problem is that Access is include with every copy of MS Office Pro. So almost every Windows user in almost every office already has it. That kind of penetration is very difficult to dislodge. If there is ever a full featured iWork to compete with Office, it should include FileMaker as well as a full featured spreadsheet.
“They do not want Windows to be the gate to everything”
Couldn’t have said it any better!
If other software companies feel the same way about Microsoft as IBM does then it would be in their best interest to offer inexpensive cross-grades of their software to OS X. (or up/cross grades at the same price as their Windows upgrades.)
I always read someone mentioning the stranglehold Access has in the Windows world, yet I don’t see it. I’ve worked for several large companies; the most recent being Sikorsky Aircraft in Stratford, CT. While it’s true every computer has Access, I’ve crossed passed with only two people that actually use it. Everyone else uses Excel. They even go so far as to call their spreadsheets “databases” which I find amusing.
Improv! Improv! Improv!
http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Staff/Michael_O_malley/web/mooses_review_page_lotus_improv.html
If we can’t get it for iWork, then directly from Lotus would be just fine.
Nice to see software coming to the mac, but I really wish Lotus Notes would stay away. It is the worst program I have ever been asked to use. Bar none.
>”They do not want Windows to be the gate to everything”>
SB-“They do not want Windows to be the Gates to everything”
Ron – We’re mostly intelligent Mac users here. The “Gates” pun was obvious as written.
In our company, the fact that Lotus Notes releases for Mac lagged those for DOS or were less complete seriously and perhaps fatally doomed Apple as an approved vendor. I have seldom seen this issue mentioned as one of the principal reasons that Apple has not been allowed within corporate America. Most large national and international financial, accounting and consulting firms with which I am most familiar use Lotus Notes for email exclusively. It’s simply a security issue. Notes email is quite obviously more secure than any email offering from Microsoft.
…”the company will pledge big-time support”
This is the same IBM that “supported” Apple with the PowerPC?
…”for the new Intel-based Macs due later this year”
IBM mustn’t know there are four Intel-based Macs out already (two iMacs, two MacBook Pros).
Aggggg! Desktop databases suck. Support nightmares.
Stick your data in a real database. PostgreSQL works great and its free. Combine it with Ruby on Rails, Django, or ColdFusion and you’ve got a great system.
Good to see another product come to OS X. Now if I could get a Groupwise client, it would be one more step to running OS X at my work.
Steve. Intelligence doesn’t mean that you have any manners. In fact you’re quite an uncouth yobbo.
“Now if I could get a Groupwise client, it would be one more step to running OS X at my work.”
Fedora Core 4 from Red Hat has an app from Novell that fits that bill (I can’t remember the exact name right now). I don’t know if it will run off the bat on OS X or needs to be ported, but you should look into it.
Mike: absolutely correct!
Jeff: ditto! but I might add that if a stand alone destop DB is needed for users try Provue’s Panorama ram based database. Absolutely flies. Kicks the sh!t out of FileMaker Pro.
Definitely a good thing. Now if they’ll just release OS/2 to the OSS community, then great cross-platform harmony can begin. The OS/2 community needs IBM to open up the gates
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Lotus Notes sucks….
http://lotusnotessucks.4t.com/
http://homepage.mac.com/bradster/iarchitect/lotus.htm
said she expects IBM to do all it can, once again, to marginalize Windows. ‘They do not want Windows to be the gate to everything,’ she said.”
Yea I wish the PC and processor division of IBM felt the same way.
Now Apple has to use crappy Intel chips and Microsoft is foaming at the mouth to make a Windows Vista version to run on Mactels.
Face Microsoft my ass, tell that to the X-box because we are not listening.
IBM talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk.
SCREW IBM.
Well, this is goods news. I hate Lotus Notes with a passion, but at work I have no choice but to use it. I could go on and on about everything that that program should do that it doesn’t (or does poorly) but I would have to dedicate an entire website to it.
Just to give you an idea, I’ll state the most glaring oversight… the simple inability to scroll. FFS, that is just retarded. I hope this ‘big time support’ means they finally plan on making this app at least a little useable.
Not holding my breath though…
@Jeff
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What do you mean – *if* you could get a Groupwise client? I have one running under Panther, talking to Groupwise 6.5. Granted it’s Java-based (rather than Native) and hails from June 2004, but it does just about everything you need. The only thing I’ve found lacking is support for rules, and I can live without those
Look here: http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw65/index.html?page=/documentation/gw65/gw65_tsh3/data/bs8xbjj.html