“Microsoft Corp. Chairman Bill Gates showed for the first time the new consumer features in the next version of his Windows software, touting search and digital photo advancements to fend off competition from Google Inc.,” Bloomberg reports. “Windows Vista will have a built-in search engine for scouring files on personal computers, and an application to organize and display photos, Gates said in a speech at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.”
“The speech marks new competition between Microsoft and photo-software maker Adobe Systems Inc. and a renewed push into music. Gates, 50, was joined on stage by singer Justin Timberlake and previewed the Urge digital music service,” Bloomberg reports. “Vista, already delayed by two years, will be critical to Microsoft’s attempts to tap a larger share of the $16.6 billion Internet advertising market…. Software called Photo Gallery will allow users to organize and manipulate photos by re-sizing them or removing red-eye. That sparks competition for Mountain View, California-based Google’s Picasa and San Jose, California-based Adobe’s Photoshop Album, a simplified version of its flagship photo program. Users will be able to switch tasks more easily through a feature displaying a list of applications and files that are open in the form of a deck of playing cards, along with thumbnail images of photos or presentations.”
“To renew growth, Gates also is pushing music and video software to fight Cupertino, California-based Apple Computer Inc.’s iPod. Tokyo-based Toshiba, Taipei-based Tatung Co. and Seoul-based LG Electronics Inc. will make music and video players that run on Windows,” Bloomberg reports. “iPod has 72 percent of the market, according to NPD Group Inc. of Port Washington, New York. Right now, the top Microsoft- based players include Singapore-based Creative Technology Ltd.’s Zen and Suwon, South Korea-based Samsung Electronics Co.’s Yepp. The Urge music service will include 2 million tracks and will allow consumers to download individual songs for a fee or sign up for a monthly fee, Microsoft said in a statement. The service will be in Windows Vista and will be available for Windows XP in the first half of this year.”
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Gates is on the moon.
“Software called Photo Gallery will allow users to organize and manipulate photos by re-sizing them or removing red-eye.”
They’re kidding, right? My just-turned-six iMac does that! Of course, I have the privilege of using OS X.
What does it mean that Urge will be in Vista? Will it be a separate application like iTunes or will it be integrated into Vista? WIll MS try to coerce its hardware partners into not installing other players, like Real? (iTunes isn’t installed by any Windows mfr anymore.)
Good luck with this iTunes Music Store killer. It’s not like anyone has tried it before.
“Photos? Photos? We don’t want no stinking photos.”
This is the new Vista? A collection of static images!
“Look, ma, I worked on Longhorn for 8 years and all I have is a couple of picture of what I think it ought to be like.”
removing red eye? resizing photographs?
come on microsoft, now you’re just pushing the envelope too far!
a built-in search engine? light years ahead of the game microsoft.
In all seriousness though, I wonder how many pc journalists will hail Vista as a success when every single selling point of it has been done (and done better!) by os x for years. Except the virii, that is.
The atomic bombs are currently being loaded into a truck from Apple’s HQ in Cupertino to be dropped on January 10th at Macworld.
mw here, as in, you are here.
Justin Timberlake? JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE???
Are you freaking KIDDING ME??????
I think I have the “urge” to puke. Or cheer wildly.
I can’t decide, because everything they announced is either incredibly late, an outright copy, or pathetically ill-conceived.
In other words, a typical set of announcements from Microsoft.
If this is the best they can bring, I don’t see how Apple can blow this.
You ARE kidding, aren’t you?
Maybe he was singing a cover of an old Hall & Oates song
‘You’re out of touch
I’m out of time
But I’m out of my head when you’re not around’
Fits pretty well
At least SJ does an actual demo of new OS versions when he gives his keynotes, rather than fumbling around with screenshots. Anyone can create a screenshot and then have fun with Photoshop.
So in other words, they are adding Spotlight and iPhoto knock-offs. Oh noes, I can see Jobs shaking in his boots at the thought of Windows Vista catching up to Tiger right before Leopard takes us to the next evolution with features that MS won’t have time to copy.
Does anyone else get that ‘Bill Gates is the Emperor without any clothes’ feeling?
MY addition, so I guess I should add a post.
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Geez, MS is worse off than I thought. I would quit today if I worked there.
Steve Jobs has just been taken to hospital.
Apparently he has split his sides with laughter!
Leo
stringbean writes: “Does anyone else get that ‘Bill Gates is the Emperor without any clothes’ feeling?”
Yes, and it’s creeping me out too!
Maybe Billy Boy had a wardrobe malfunction? I mean, Timberlake was there after all!
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Apple announce what they have achieved.
Microsoft announce what they might achieve.
Sad, sad, sad…
Feel free to send Bill Gates your opinions of Vista so far:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/sentiments/default.mspx
Hopefully Vista will be more reliable than the webcast hosted but unavailable here:
http://www.microsoft.com/events/executives/billgates.mspx
I wonder exactly what make of MP3 player Justin Timberlake owns?
Would a media savvy performer like JT look cool seen listening to a Zen?
Or a Yapp?
“Apple announce what they have achieved.
Microsoft announce what they might achieve.”
That sums it up nicely Macaday.
MS gets Justin Timberlake: has he done anything new recently? No disrespect meant.
Apple gets…
Kanye West: after having a great year with his new album
Sarah McLachlan – I believe she had recently released an album at the time.
Alicia Keys – got her on a free day during her tour in the UK.
The also had a famous Jazz musician at on of their events – I don’t remember his name, however.
U2 – for the OWN iPod
This doesn’t count the two (maybe three?) times John Mayer has appeared at macworld to demo Garageband with Steve Jobs.
Final tally: MS – 1 (sorta); Apple – a lot.
Is anyone truly worried for Apple here?
oops, should read:
“U2 – for their OWN iPod”
The famous jazz musician was Wynton Marsalis, arguably the most influential jazz musician in the last 20 years.
APPLE ADVERTISING GET OFF YOUR BUTTS!!!
Seize the moment
How about a series of ads with side by side comparisons or their ‘new’ features (and of course New=Buggy and Crashy in the windoze world) and OS X’s already-there stuff.
And the final line of the ad — “all this, and no security worries”
Why would anyone buy anything else?
You want to talk ATOM BOMB, how do you top Justin Timberlake? We Carpenter siblings (resurrected from beyond) will join Uncle Bill on stage next.
You want to talk ATOM BOMB, how do you top Justin Timberlake? We Carpenter siblings (resurrected from beyond) will join Uncle Bill on stage next.
You want to talk ATOM BOMB, how do you top Justin Timberlake? We Carpenter siblings (resurrected from beyond) will join Uncle Bill on stage next.
You want to talk ATOM BOMB, how do you top Justin Timberlake? We Carpenter siblings (resurrected from beyond) will join Uncle Bill on stage next.
From the USA today article:
“”2005 was a big year (for Microsoft). 2006 will be an even bigger year, with Vista coming out and Office 12 and the realization of the Media Center PC as a mainstream product,” Gates said.”
OK, first of all HOW was 2005 a big year from MS/ Did they actually release anything? Secondly, I think he means that once Apple comes out with their media to Mac connection, then everyone will buy a media center PC because somehow they think owning MS’s inferior crap is better than buying Apple’s solution.
The article also states in reference to Micosofts languishing year to year sales:
“Another major factor: Microsoft took five years — the longest stretch in its history — to deliver this Windows upgrade.”
TOOK? TOOK five years. Um, it’s not out yet. Speak about it in the past tense once it actually hits the shelves. If I was a Windows user thething I’d be worried about the most is MS trying to force fit a release date around this train wreck of a product.
Apple is not Microsoft´s competition – it is now Google and others…maybe even Dell.
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With everyone going to Intel chips Apple will just be another content provider offering the same computer as everyone else (but cooler looking and lots more expensive). There is lots of competition heating up for the living room – and it´s all behind the 90% PC market. Unfortunately.
The iPod revolution is here, but, well…. everyone in our family has one – no more buying from us for a while. (Still I go to the gym and see very few people have iPods…can´t figure that one out. Guess the iPod is not for everyone.)
And Steve Jobs just does not know how to run an effective computer marketing/ad campaign that gets immediate results. Relying on the press to create a cult object out of something (iPod) is a very risky and unsure thing.
It is interesting to watch the reporting from CES and not see one company with any interest in what Apple has to offer….or may offer.
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After CES I think we will all be a sitting a bit on the disappointed side in what we hoped is to be announced at MacWorld and what reality is. (If dropping the Shuffle for a better Nano and software announcements and a bump in processor speeds on the iMac, et al is the big news ….well…)
Thanks to Mr. Bob for the reality check.
He’s right.
Apple will be run over once again. And it will be much more painful now that we had that little glimmer of hope.
Apple’s big negatives for the real world:
– No gaming console.
– PDAs either are Windows or work best with Windows
– No cell-phone OS.
I mean how much can music save the company? Too too too many eggs in one kinda flimsy basket
I tried to view the webcast, but it won’t load for me.
I’m curious – when Bill Gates announces a “new” feature like removing red eye from photos – do people actually clap and cheer like it is something they have been waiting for??? Or is the applause out of pity or courtesy for Bill because he is such an “innovator”? Just wondering.
As in URGENCY.
BG: “Balmy, quick, get me some new features, anything! And get me a rock star on stage. I’ll put that ass-hole Steve Jobs in his place. I’m the king of the (windows) world!”
The next day a furniture delivery truck unloads a fresh room full of chairs to Balmys office.
Mr Bob and Windoze: You are just plain wrong and I guess can’t see beyond the end of your nose’s.
Why? Because to run this entertainment stuff you have to renew your computer, and then you aee that:
Apple has the world’s recognised best, virus free, operating system with OSX.
Apple already has the worlds recognised best digital (music) experience with the iPod and iTunes.
It has the worlds recognised best desktop computer in the iMac.
And those are just the headlines. Mycrowsoft is fighting not to be seen as as yesterdays technology. The switch to Intel is going to make that become yet more apparent.
As Cameron-Apple said to Blair-Mycrowsoft: “Once, you were the future”.
Webcast says not available until 11PST
..interesting to see the message you get when you search for 2004 on the top right of the webcast events page:
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MYCROWSOFT – YOU ARE A BIG JOKE
Mr. Bob S,
With respect you have not a clue of which you speak.
The “one more thing” this year is gonna be big. When I say big, I am talking mount on your wall big so stand back.
True Apple can’t seem to get off it’s collective duff about advertising but I tink that is also about to change. With it’s relationship with Intel and their rather generous cross marketing policy (50% of ad costs for putting the Intel logo in the spot) I think we will see far more from Apple than we ever have in the past.
Also, aside from the new hardware that is coming, we are due for a slew of software updates.
Expect some neat stuff on Tuesday.
Microsmoke still talking about their vapor…this stuff is not to be released till probably late in the year.
One by one the atom bombs were being loaded into a dump truck just after Steve heard Gates’ news conferance. Everyone at Apple HQ was laughing, nobody more-so than Steve. If you listened closely enough, you could still hear him saying, “We actually thought we would need those bombs LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.”
And so one by one, the bombs were disposed of, because Microsoft had activated their self destruct.
MDN MW “open” Open your wallets and buy a Mac already!! GEESH!
That show should have a banner. “Welcome to the Gates of Hell. Abandon all Hope and Check your Sanity at the Door.”
Red Eye Removal. What an innovation (not).
Nothing to see here, except for a has-been running a second rate software company that sells a poor imitation of OS X called Windows.
If you REALLY want to see innovation, visit http://www.apple.com on Tuesday.
This story has a lot of humor in it – all of it unintentional on Gates’ part – especially the audio interview. Has anyone noticed how often Gates (all the M$ spokestotems in fact) use the word “rich” to describe just about every feature or product they hawk?
Anyway, there was one aspect of Vista that was mentioned that worries me. “Gates discussed new software to record live television and transfer music and video around homes. This will let consumers connect to high-definition cable TV without a set-top box.”
Obviously we all expect the latter to be a major part of whatever Jobs announces next week. But I hope to heaven that the ability to record TV is in their too. I really think that will be a big factor in anyone’s purchasing decisions once the Mighty Media Center battle is truly under way. If Apple doesn’t include it – perhaps with the intent of funneling people towards downloading videos from their online store – they will be shooting themselves in the foot before the race ever gets started.
“To renew growth, Gates … is pushing music and video software to fight Cupertino, California-based Apple Computer Inc.”
Since Apple seems intent on betting their future almost entirely on the same thing (the best explaination for going to Intel), they’d better be ready with their A-Game on this. M$ has the luxury of a huge slice of the OS and software market (not to mention a more diffuse product base from which to derive profit from) to insulate themselves from any stumbles they might make in Multimedia. Plus there’s no ‘lock-in’ induced performance hit to make them look bad – if Intel winds up following AMDs lead for another 5 years, Windows won’t be directly affected. Finally, if Vista is perceived as even just a solid-not-spectacular improvement over XP (and improves it’s overall ‘look’ to boot), market inertia among the computer buying public will be huge.
Small market Apple, now without PPC or the option of AMD (apparently), has none of those advantages. If Apple’s A/V flanking maneuver fails … there’s not a lot of wiggle room left.
Something I seem to notice; when Jobs is having a keynote, he announces products that are ready to be released, while Gates is talking about how the future will be.
Well, we have seen him predicting the future a couple of times before. Internet, storage etc. etc.
Apple is not Microsoft´s competition – it is now Google and others…maybe even Dell.
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That’s MS’ fault for getting into every market… now they have lots of enemies
Macaday: “Apple has the world’s recognised best, virus free, operating system with OSX.” etc, etc.
Maybe so, but 90+% of the world doesn´t believe it or have their own reasons not for going Apple. You can beat this mantra for ever – if a tree falls in a forest and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound?
And people aren´t buying Apple computers in droves, they are buying iPods – that also run on Microsoft OS computers. (If they didn´t the iPod would have never had the sales that it does.)
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Anim8tor: “When I say big, I am talking mount on your wall big so stand back.”
As if you have a clue about Apples plans…LOL.
(Tip to Anim8tor – check it out – Intel just dropped the “Intel inside” logo thing….)
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And remember this corporate logic: “No one ever got fired for going with Microsoft.”
Will: …”…when Jobs is having a keynote, he announces products that are ready to be released,…”
Yeah, Mike, like last June when Jobs announced the switch to Intel chips a year from June 2005…..
LOL .
Wow. This has got to be the most useless analysis I’ve ever read.
With everyone going to Intel chips Apple will just be another content provider offering the same computer as everyone else (but cooler looking and lots more expensive). There is lots of competition heating up for the living room – and it´s all behind the 90% PC market. Unfortunately.
Macs on Intel will be the same computer as every other manufacturer? I’m at a loss. Do you use Macs?
The iPod revolution is here, but, well…. everyone in our family has one – no more buying from us for a while. (Still I go to the gym and see very few people have iPods…can´t figure that one out. Guess the iPod is not for everyone.)
Everyone in your family has an iPod? Okay, so what? You know, everyone in my family has a car but I don’t think the car business is going to slow down anytime soon.
And Steve Jobs just does not know how to run an effective computer marketing/ad campaign that gets immediate results. Relying on the press to create a cult object out of something (iPod) is a very risky and unsure thing.
Yeah, I can really see how this has been working out so poorly for Apple. Record growth, profitability. Damn that Apple, if only they would advertize!
Mr. Bob S. said “No one ever got fired for going with Microsoft.”
Interesting, we just tore up our contract with our Windows based IT company, after I demoed the Xserve and the wonderful OS X Server. We ran it side by side for 7 days next to the crappy Windows 2003 Server Small Business Edition. You can compare ANY aspect – price, performance, expandability, TCO. The Xserve wins hands down.
So in this case someone DID get fired for sticking with Microsoft, and not moving on to bigger and better. I just hope this is the start.
DEATH TO MYCROWSOFT.
Actually windoze, having all your eggs in the music box ain’t that bad when you own 75% of the market and are moving into digital video as well, with a view to controlling all digital entertainment distribution in the future.
As for PDAs, that market is dying. The iPod is coming at it from a different direction, a media player that also syncs contacts and appointments and does rudimentary games – more than enough for most people.
Game consoles and mobile OS’s? Those are crowded markets. Apple is best sticking to markets where it is dominant and easily distinguishable from the competition (while planting its technologies like WebKit on mobile phones and QuickTime Streaming Server on mobile exchanges).
Odyssey67
I really like your point of view on this.
I also think another factor you may want to consider is the business world and the IT managers. MS has to cater to these clowns like there are the head chefs (which they are as they make up most of the MS market). They collectiviely will not want these features in Vista, for a number of reasons: employee prodctivity, increased susceptability to malware, and the true and real problem with Windows the necessity to support legacy software.
You might suggest that they will just disable these for corporate clients, but that again leaves MS with not concentrating on the true consumer user end experience. This is where Apple excels.
Also do not forget that MS’s biggest worry and greatest fear is not the digital living room battle, but the awesome monster named Google, that has the potential to single handedly hand MS their collective assess with an MS Office killer via web based software.
And Justin Timberlake (Bill…what happened? you are personally involved with Bono (Men of the Year) who does have musical taste, went home and pulled out one of his 5 iPod Nanos to upload some new tracks from his forth coming piece of “music” after depositing the $125,000 appearance fee check.
Queezzie wrote:
“Will: …”…when Jobs is having a keynote, he announces products that are ready to be released,…”
Yeah, Mike, like last June when Jobs announced the switch to Intel chips a year from June 2005…..
LOL .”
Actually, Jobs announced the Intel switch at the Worldwide Developers Conference, and as I recall Apple released the Developer Kit with the Tiger on Intel Developer systems within a couple of weeks.
So I don’t get your comment.
‘The also had a famous Jazz musician at on of their events – I don’t remember his name, however.’
Partial from Wikipedia
Wynton Marsalis has been awarded the 2005 National Medal of Arts of the United States, the Grand Prix du Disque of France and the Edison Award of the Netherlands, and was elected an honorary member of the Royal Academy of Music in Britain. He has received honarary doctorate degrees from Amherst College and Rutgers University in May 1997, in addition to various recognitions by Brandeis University, Brown University, Columbia University, Johns Hopkins University, the Manhattan School of Music, Princeton University, the University of Miami and Yale.
Marsalis has toured 30 countries on six continents.
Pulitzer Prize for Music,
Grammy Award for Best Jazz Instrumental Album, Individual or Group
1985,1986, 1987
Grammy Award for Best Instrumental Soloist(s) Performance (with orchestra)
1983, 1984
Grammy Award for Best Jazz Instrumental Solo
1983,1984,1985
Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album for Children
In 1987, Marsalis helped found the Jazz at the Lincoln Center program, and is still its artistic director. The program began as a week-long classic jazz series and was fully established in 1991. The department became an independent organization — Jazz at Lincoln Center — July 1, 1996. It has developed its own board of directors, a repertory company, and a Jazz Orchestra.
MARSALIS IS JAZZ ROYALTY
I don’t get it.
Many early jazz pioneers have won no awards, perhaps travels to 2 or 3 countries (some none) died broke, yet have become legends.
Is he “royalty” because he plays well and has lots of cash? Or is he royalty because of what awards he has won?
What new thing has he brought to the table of Jazz?
I just saw Timberdink on “The Insider” talking about Urge and Gates and he basically said it all with this line about Urge, “it’s like myspace and iTunes” mashed together. Can you hear the collective grown coming from Redmond? This confirms that he is not only a moron for pimping himself to Gates but he knows better than to have pimped himself to Gates.
How many recording studios has this idiot been in? Have any of his own albums been produced using a machine running Windows XP? Doofess.
Cameron baby, dump him NOW!
“Queezzie wrote:
“Will: …”…when Jobs is having a keynote, he announces products that are ready to be released,…”
Yeah, Mike, like last June when Jobs announced the switch to Intel chips a year from June 2005…..
LOL .”
Actually, Jobs announced the Intel switch at the Worldwide Developers Conference, and as I recall Apple released the Developer Kit with the Tiger on Intel Developer systems within a couple of weeks.
So I don’t get your comment.”
Well, anouncing the shift to a new processor is NOT the same as anouncing a new intel iBook with a 13.3 inch screen… The switch is not a product release, is it ?
It wouldn’t be too swift to release the 13.3 Inch Intel iBook, if there were no programs you could run on it. You have to tell the developers (at the WWDC) that they need to recompile for Intel. That is what Jobs announced last June.
Are you just trolling?
xsnight:
Thanks – You’re spot on about the IT people and their influence. From what I’ve read, M$ is going to offer quite a variety of Vista ‘flavors’ (more than XP currently has). I don’t know all the specifics, but I’ll bet they’ve got a special brand of vanilla, just for pocket protector crowd.
I actually think Apple’s OS product, being more focused in that regard, is an advantage for them. Less complication on the consumer end (where M$ will also have more than a couple Vistas to choose from) is a good thing in my book, especialy when you’re trying to gain market share against an entrenched opponent. Yet I doubt OSX Server will have any of the multimedia sugar either. It wouldn’t really serve any purpose I can think of.
I also agree that Google is a huge worry for Redmond. In fact – if they do the things you surmise (and I think so too) – that would make Google the REAL competitor to M$ in a straight up computer-to-computer OS shootout. Apple simply can’t make up the same kind of ground selling locked down OS’s in their own boxes in anything under a decade. Google on the other hand can be a much more efficient distributor of just about any software they want to develop, and if it’s open source based it could provide even lower price/better profit to boot.
Nonetheless, I have no doubt that MS sees clearly what Jobs is doing with his A/V flanking manuever, and understand the upside for whichever of them wins that fight. But like I said – M$ has more built-in ability to absorb big failures, and is much more diversified in what can make money for them, as well as having the advantage of the variety of rigs that can run Vista in the first place (especially AMD CPUs). Much slimmer Apple has not only put an awful lot of eggs in one multimedia basket, but has made it’s intentions of staying totally tied to Intel (once the transition is over) well-known. That kind of inflexibility is never good, and I wonder just how many people realize what a weakness it could be for Apple if the video/multimedia market never really takes off, or they don’t get it locked up.
Let me put it this way – if the video gamble fails, and/or AMD keeps looking good vs Intel, Apple’s growth potential will definitely be affected – and in that case, iPods better not become passe anytime soon, cause they’d be all Apple had left.
Take care