Some UK music lovers ‘frustrated’ with online music

“UK music lovers are getting frustrated with restrictions placed on digital music tracks once they buy them from online stores, says PC Pro magazine. The magazine reported that people are also being turned off net music stores because of pricing and disappointing sound quality compared to CDs,” BBC News reports. “The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) said legal music downloads rose by 900% in 2004.”

“Last week, the UK’s official singles chart included sales of legal tracks. Yet legal downloads are still fledglings in the music industry, accounting for two percent of the market, according to PC Pro’s Nick Ross. ‘What people don’t understand is that when they buy an iPod or other digital music player, they’re being tied into a system,’ said Mr Ross, deputy labs editor at PC Pro. ‘Many of our readers have already been caught out, buying tracks but being unable to play them on their player,'” BBC News reports.

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Read the readers’ responses to the BBC article and you’ll see that the ones who are most frustrated seem to be those customers not using Apple’s iTunes Music Store (iTMS). iTMS users don’t see at all frustrated to us, except for the one who writes, “I had been using iTunes music store since it opened in the UK and bought plenty of music on there. However, recently one of my hard disks failed and I lost all my music. No matter, I thought, I will re-rip the CDs I have and re-download the music I bought on iTunes, after all, they have a record of every track I have paid for. Alas, the music I paid for has gone forever. I find it staggering that such an obvious benefit of online music distribution has been overlooked.”

Back up? Of course, everyone should back up their music (and other files) for safety. Your hard drive WILL fail at some time. Now, should Apple figure out a way to let you re-download your lost songs? If it’s technically possible, perhaps Apple should – even if for a fee. Keep in mind that if you go buy a CD at a music shop today and you lose it, the music shop isn’t going to replace that CD for you. This is another advantage of digital online music downloads that Apple should exploit, so that iTMS customers can never “lose” their music in the future.

Back to the subject at hand. If you want to avoid frustration, just go get an iPod and use iTunes and the iTunes Music Store. It’s simply the best, most-seamless solution available.

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Mossberg: Apple’s iTunes Music Store vs. Napster To Go – March 18, 2005
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Piper Jaffray: Apple iTunes downloads could reach one billion in calendar 2006 – February 22, 2005

33 Comments

  1. I use iTMS and I am frustrated by the restrictions – sometimes I will DL a track on p2p instead of iTMS because I know I can play it aywhere whithout having to waste a CD burning and re-ripping it.

  2. There is a way for Apple to keep track of what the customer purchases and makes it available for them to re-download if their hard drive crashes. Just go to http://www.audible.com and experience how they sell audio books for your iPod. Once you purchase a book, it is placed in a library that is all yours. If you ever trash your audio book on your hard drive, simply log onto Audible’s site, go to your library, and re-download it. This ain’t rocket science folks.

  3. I totally agree with the guy. Apple should offer (for a fee, if necessary) some kind of “music security” policy, where it allows you to re-download lost tracks. I myself have managed to delete a couple of albums I’d downloaded from iTMS. These things, despite our best efforts, will happen, and Apple has a real opportunity to improve their offering in this space even more.

  4. once you have purchased a tune from the itunes music store, burn it to a CD-RW and then re-import it, by doing this you strip out the restrictions and can have it in any format you like without a noticable loss in sound quality. Would be nice if Apple up their bit rate to 192kbps but you can’t have your cake and smoke it

  5. iTunes has a folder listing all of my downloaded tracks, so there is a record that is kept.

    Do wish that iTMS would allow downloads at higher bit rates.

    Henry, there is such a thing as a CD-RW.

  6. All of the songs I have downloaded through the iTunes Music Store are burned to a CD for the purposes of Backup. I won’t lose any of my music because I have done this from the very beginning. I’ve spent a lot of money on sugar water to get those free tracks, dagnabbit! I want to be able to prove that I ricked rotting my teeth for a good cause.

  7. A friend of mine talked Apple into letting him download the 1400 songs he lost when his Dell crahsed. He simply told them, now that I just got a Mac, I’d like to see if I can get my music back. Apple actually let him re-download 1400 songs.

  8. When you purchase songs from iTMS they even remind you to do backups. Loosing your songs (all of them) is a sign of stupidity.
    If iTMS started to record your purchases for times indefinite, then the data security people would cry foul because what you purchase should not be recorded. It’s a catch 22. But I’d rather have one or two stupid people on my back than a bunch of EU regulators.

  9. I’ve purchased over 400 songs from iTMS and I love the convenience that it offers, but the record companies should really lower the amount they’re asking so that songs and albums can be purchased at a lower price (a price that better reflects what you’re actually getting). The last few months I have increasing passed on iTMS downloads in favor of buying the physical CD. Having a physical CD right from the beginning, lyrics, sound quality, and lack of restrictions is enough for me to spend an extra few bucks at the CD store instead of using iTMS. Not to mention, when I buy a physical CD, I own it enought to sell it if I ever want to, something I can’t really do with a downloaded song. Until iTMS can offer lower prices or features comparable to a CD, CDs are still better.

  10. hagar57,
    iTMS already does record your purchases. And I wouldn’t exactly call people stupid if they don’t backup everything. iTunes should really include a feature that will make backing up songs a simple feature. Most people that purchase songs from iTMS do so for the convenience. Having to buy and burn songs to CDs all the time is not exactly convenient. Yes, people should be backing up everything, but stupidity isn’t the reason why they don’t.

  11. I use iTunes and like it.

    BUT any album i’ve put to an audio CD seems to (on reload) be bereft (missing) all the track info. so on my latest reload of tiger, all my purchased music has TRACK 01, TRACK 02. SUCKS!

  12. if Apple would let me DL at a decent bitrate/quality + linernotes I would start to buy some tracks. I can’t believe some people claim there’s no recognizable difference between their iTMS tracks and a CD. Are you deaf???
    I have about 4500 CDs and would love to DL some single tracks instead of ripping my CDs. Takes too long. But I want my linernotes and the original year of recording. iTMS mainly take their album data from “best of” CDs – which sucks amazingly when you want to know what year G.Mulligan did that recording – and NOT when it got recompiled.

  13. Blind support of Apple is distubing. “…perhaps Apple should” allow re-downloads? “Perhaps”? Sheesh, this “apple can do no wrong” attitude is nausiating. OF COURSE they should allow re-downloads. Its NOT a CD, you have restrictions on iTunes which you do not have with a CD. Apple should make it less likely for you to lose your investment. It good business to treat your customers fairly. It builds loyalty vs resentment.

  14. The problem with backup up to CD-R or DVD-R is that it’s a fairly unstable media. Those backups of valuable data need to be stored carefully (dark, dry, cool) and copied annually to guarantee data integrity.

    CD-R is not a long-term backup solution.

    Real CDs have a better lifespan if treated well.

    I would advise people only to use iTMS, or any other download service for music you don’t mind losing at some point, as it will probably come to that someday.

    I’ll be sticking to CDs for a while longer.

  15. Bill, you’re right about bit rates being too low on iTMS. I won’t say how I managed to download music from the store (seeing as I live in A’stralia and we still don’t have this option yet) but when I listened to the downloaded product it was well below cd quality. Near cd quality…give me a break.

    However, it’s primarily NOT Apple’s fault. The record companies wanted to protect their fat cd profits so they didn’t want a product that was the equal or superior to their existing method of transaction. This was the deal cruncher. At least that what musicians, sound egineers and the non-record companies people are saying. (My wife is an ex US DJ and I’m an ex muso).

    I think it’s time for Apple to flex it’s muscle. They control around seventy percent of the legal download market and it’s time to dump this “near cd quality” line and force those bastard record exec’s to allow Apple improve the download quality.

    I might add when I ripped my cd collection and transferred over eighty cds to my beautiful ipod at 128 kbps (as recommended by Apple) the finished product sounded muddy. I had to do the whole thing again.

    Just by increasing the bit rate up to 160kbps would improve the quality no end.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not slagging off at Apple. I’ve been a proud Mac user since 1993 (Windows 3.1 made me switch). It’s just two things that piss me off. One is the music industry acting like robber barons. My other complaint is that the downloaded product could be so much better.

    I never bought pre-recorded cassettes when they were around and as result when iTMS opens in this country I won’t be wasting any more money on this BS near cd quality crap. I’ll wait until the bit rate is up a notch or two. (That’s right, the iTMS is near cassette quality…a bit better actually, but cds are much better.)

    It just means having to put up with cds a while longer. Damn the record companies; they can shove Grammies right up their you know wheres!!!

  16. The whole concept is ridiculous. Would you really buy a CD that you could only play on one brand of CD player? That you couldn’t play in the car as well as at home and in your CD Walkman? A CD that has sound quality comparable to an old cassette tape at best? No, no, no!
    Mark Serlin, London UK

    I believe this to be the most accurate of all of the statements. I have never bought a song on iTMS for those reasons. I usually just pick a CD up at an on-line store, rip it and then sync it up with my iPod. DMR’s are going to kill this fledgling market. If I fork over my dollar for a song, then its mine, and I can do whatever I want with it. To be dictated by the music industry and by the software companies is unacceptable to me and should be to the mass public.

    Not saying that the destination is better than the journey…

  17. I thought Apple added a new format (Apple Lossless, or something like that), that has top notch audio. Can’t you download in that format from ITMS?
    (OK, I should check, but I didn’t.)

  18. Trouble is.. with all those CD’s you have myriads of tracks you never wanted but had to pay for to get the ones you did want.

    Buying off iTunes gives much better value for money.

    No sympathy need go the person who had all his songs on a single hard drive that was not backed up.

  19. Yeah, hagar57. just because someone doesn’t back up their data and then loses it doesn’t mean they are stupid. It just means they are morons.

    ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS backup anything you want to keep! If you do not, its your fault if you lose anything.

    Its like motorcycle riders, those that have been in an accident and those that will. You will lose data at some point.

    Don’t learn this the hard way.

  20. What I want in music videos attached to my songs that will play in the cover art window, that would be cool.

    Liner notes are interesting, but ive only ever looked at them once, mostly a waste of space. Apple could easily charge 1 penny or 2 persong for a “permanent insurance” that would solve this and make lots of money, but than people would cry foul that Apple was ripping people off

  21. johnny boy – if you save(backup) your music as data files you won’t lose any information except for the info saved by the itunes program itself such as play count and rating etc. The nature of CD music files doesn’t contain any information – just music

  22. Hey johnny boy,

    You should actually back up as a data CD or DVD which is an option in itunes, that way all your info stays with the song and you are not encoding/decoding all the time.

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