“Microsoft’s leafy corporate campus in Redmond, Washington, is beginning to look like the streets of New York, London and just about everywhere else: Wherever you go, white headphones dangle from peoples’ ears. To the growing frustration and annoyance of Microsoft’s management, Apple Computer’s iPod is wildly popular among Microsoft’s workers,’ Leander Kahney reports for Wired News.
“‘About 80 percent of Microsoft employees who have a portable music player have an iPod,’ said one source, a high-level manager who asked to remain anonymous. ‘It’s pretty staggering.’ The source estimated 80 percent of Microsoft employees have a music player — that translates to 16,000 iPod users among the 25,000 who work at or near Microsoft’s corporate campus. ‘This irks the management team no end,’ said the source. So popular is the iPod, executives are increasingly sending out memos frowning on its use,’ Kahney reports.
“‘These guys are really quite scared,’ said the source of Microsoft’s management. ‘It shows how their backs are against the wall…. Even though it’s Microsoft, no one is interested in what we have to offer, even our own employees.’ So concerned is management, owning an iPod at Microsoft is beginning to become impolitic, the manager said. Employees are hiding their iPods by swapping the telltale white headphones for a less conspicuous pair,” Kahney reports. “As for hiding his own iPod use, the manager said he flaunts his iPod, despite the constant comments — and occasional arguments — it prompts. ‘I don’t really care if it pisses them off,’ he said. ‘I’ll argue why they’re doing it wrong. If you want me to stop using it, give me a product that works and is as easy to use.'”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Wonder how long it’ll take before they’re hiding Mac minis in their cubicles?
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Columnist: Apple’s smug faithful will not prevail, Microsoft ‘good enough’ for the rest of us – April 16, 2004
The height of irony: Microsoft executive whines Apple-HP music deal ‘unfair’ – January 14, 2004
Microsoft unhappy with HP, Apple music pact; says deal will ‘limit choice’ – January 13, 2004
This is the funniest story of the year so far. Now we see precisely why Steve Jobs is a genius for NOT opening up the iPod to work with WMA files and other online music stores. Even Microsoft’s own employees are totally buying into the iPod and iTunes even without the support of M$ and their crap services.
and the wheel keeps spinning…
Wow! I thought my corporate rules on mp3 players were strict! This really speaks volumes to the world about the fear that Microsoft has concerning the worldwide Apple phenomenon. They thought they were able to get rid of Apple, but they’re back!
Incredible! The best article I’ve read in a long time! Way to go Apple!
This kind of stuf is just getting more fun to read everyday.
That’s funny! But, truth of the matter is, probably 80% of Apple’s iPod owners also have Windows PC’s. So, I will just smile quietly.
The real dig is not so much Digital Music- it’s DRM. Microsoft is wanting to attach DRM to everything in the no-too-distant future. The DRM would be M$’s Janus DRM, not Apple’s FairPlay. Every time a Windows user puts iTunes on a PC a whole set of Apple APIs goes on the PC including Rendezvous and those associated with QuickTime. This is wrecking Bill Gates’ vision of the future. Ain’t it great?
This reminds me of a commercial years back where a guy drives this huge Pepsi truck through the desert. He sweating and obviously thirsty. At long last, he arrives at a truck stop where there is a vending machine. He gets a Coke, empties it at once and gets another one. Smiling at the man who runs the truck stop he lifts the can of Coke and says “One for the road!”
Does anybody think, highly paid professionals will sport dorky “Pains for Sure” mp3 players?
Great take MDN!
MDN Magic Word is READING as in “I just can’t work anymore ’cause I spent most of my time READING MDN’s site and the articles it links!!”
“If you want me to stop using it, give me a product that works and is as easy to use.”
We have a winner in the 26th Annual Microsoft Unintentional Ironic Quote Contest!!
I feel for you, buddy… That’s what Mac users have been saying about WinTel boxes since 1984…
They shouldn’t feel bad. I use a Siemens SX66 PocketPC, and it’s the best phone/pda on the market hands down. Beats the crap out of the Treo 600 series. Microsoft’s mobile OS on this thing is more Mac like than a Palm could ever hope to be. It synchs up via bluetooth. It mounts like a hard disk via bluetooh. I move files back and forth like was moving them to another Mac.
It has WiFI, Bluetooth, and GPRS.
I can switch between WiFi and the cellular network to make calls.
It’s a sweet device.
Apple, who created the market, doesn’t even have such a device.
NoPCZone,
I agree with your assessment that it’s about DRM. Microsoft is huge not because Windows or Office are that good, it’s because they control the formats. Their future growth depends on their being able to control media formats, and the true battle between Microsoft and Apple isn’t about Windows vs. Mac OS X, it’s WMA vs. QuickTime.
Microsoft previously could have cared less what hardware their employees flaunted around the campus. Look at the MacBU people drawing stares by proudly displaying their PowerBooks at Redmond. I really admire Roz Ho and her crew of Mac-loving buccaneers.
And every iPod owner will have iTunes on his/her PC, which means that Windows Media Center will have to compete with iTunes/QuickTime, which means that MicroSoft will not win this round. The selling of many millions of iPod shuffles is going to be the nail in WMC’s coffin, because each PC user will install iTunes.
Magic word: “only,” as in: “it’s only a matter of time.” !!!
“Apple, who created the market, doesn’t even have such a device.”
Apple is doing the wise thing by staying the hell away from the mobile device business. Let me amend that: the mobile device manufacturing business. You have good things to say about your Siemens PocketPC, but it’s the capabilities of the OS that make it so attractive. Apple would be better served by producing a mobile version of OS X and licensing it instead of making the device themselves.
That being said, does anyone outside of Apple and Motorola really know what those two are up to? Motorola’s Razr phone is a runaway smash hit, and is stylish enough to have come out of Cupertino. Is this the signal that these companies could be poised to produce the much speculated-upon “iPhone”, with Moto doing the hardware, and Apple the OS?
Next they’ll be modding their G5s so management won’t know that they are doing their code development on them!!
alec,
The most important part of your comment isn’t that 80% of iPod users have wintel pc’s, it’s that they had the pc’s first.
After using an MS os and apps, they shunned the MS product and chose a better one made by Apple.
You don’t have to just smile quietly, you can laugh out loud with the rest of us.
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Hey look at this one also: form today news by Dow Jones Newswire on Gates in Brussels “…Gates’ trip was shrouded in secrecy at least in part because the last time he came here, a prankster threw a pie in his face. Microsoft officials said they wanted no repeat.
“This is a private visit, a chance for Bill to talk about general issues of competitiveness,” said Dirk Delmartino, a Microsoft spokesman.”
full story here.
Microsoft says: “choice, choice, choice, gotta have a choice.” Then goes ballistic when their employees choose iPod.
Right on Avoman. As it’s been said many times, M$ is all for choice all right, as long as that choice is M$. Thankfully Apple is winning the DRM war between Fairplay and AAC and that is what has the M$ management frustrated above anything.
Another article highlight:
“But at the Windows Digital Media Group, which is charged with software for portable players and the WMA format, using an iPod is not a good career move.”
“Next they’ll be modding their G5s so management won’t know that they are doing their code development on them!!”
Windows might actually improve if that were the case!
This morning on the way to work I saw a billboard which beautifully illustrates what Microsoft is up against here. The billboard was for a new radio station here in Albuquerque (103.3 for ABQ Peter), and the slogan read, “Like your iPod…on steroids.” Hey, Bill, the third horseman just rode in. Expect the fourth sometime in the next few months. His name is H.264, aka QuickTime 7. It’s over.
Maybe Microsoft should start their own in-house switcher campaign.
Micro$oftopoly says customers want choice:
iPod Photo- 2 sizes
iPod – 3 sizes
iPod mini- 5 colors
iPod Shuffle- 2 sizes
and soon…
Mr Moto cell phones.
and maybe…
iTunes for PlayStation Portable
Great story, Bamer is porbably doing an angry dance right about now. But this isn’t any different than the Ford employee being told that his owning a Japanese car is not good for team spirit.
I work for Durex, but I use Trojans. My female boss has repeatedly given me grief for that – usually after our lunch-time “sessions” in the conference room.
hey ndelc, how ya doing? i don’t listen to the radio anymore, too many commercials. have you found an iTunes cap yet? everyone is right, ms wants choice as long as they choose ms. sounds like an election in the old soviet union.
my magic word is “nuclear”; hmm, are there bomb shelters in redmond?!
great story… I actually switch away my white earbuds for a different reason: everyone has them.
Of course.. I’m not some Creative fanboy.. who buys a shit product to spite everyone else.. but everyone has those white earbuds man..
Besides.. you know.I prefer headphones..
Well, at least those 16,000 iPods are hooked up to Windows version of iTune I suppose. This is The real Trojan Horse. Next, those employees will be hiding their Mac Mini under their table and use a switcher to change the screen when ever the management passes by but hey, Steve Ballmer couldn’t distinguish the Mac OSX from “LongThorn” anyway.
The Microsoft manager said he’s heard from several executives who dutifully bought Microsoft-powered players, tried them, failed to get them working, and returned them in favor of an iPod. He went through the same experience, he said.
Plays for sure, eh?
I got rid of the white headphones, too. Instead, I hooked my iPod into a 40-pound boombox circa 1985 that blast while carry around on top of my shoulder.
The results from the SpyAudit report are culled from EarthLink and Webroot SpyAudit detection programs that run analyses of Internet users PCs and provide audited reports of spyware residing on the machines. The SpyAudit report charts the overall number of scans and figures for each of the defined software categories from January 1, 2004 to December 31, 2004.
Heheh [long link].
Plays for who, eh? Next we’ll see Microsofties carrying PBs with the Apple logo taped-over.
Microsoftie Chris Anderson, for example, just blogged about buying himself an iPod, three days after buying his wife one.
“I couldn’t resist anymore,” he wrote. “The industrial design on the iPod is absolutely amazing. The usability of the device is light-years beyond anything else I’ve seen.”
Ouch!
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Go on Paul Thurrott, spin that you bastard!
Wow, this is just great! One of my favorites:
The note prompted a curt reply from Dave Fester, general manager of the Windows Digital Media division, who wrote the group: “I sure hope Microsoft employees are not buying iPods. We have great alternatives. Check out http://experiencemore.”
Fifteen minutes later, the manager responded: “I don’t know what I was thinking. I’m sure that Microsoft employees are not buying iPods, or Macs or PlayStations.”
MUAHAHAHAHAHAH
Insert sound clip of Nelson Muntz going “HAAAA-ha!”
ROFLMAO! Thanks Trojan Man, that was funny!
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Brought to you by the word “interest”. Of all the Mac news sites out there, MDN does the best job of keeping my interest.
“So popular is the iPod, executives are increasingly sending out memos frowning on it use”.
The only way Microsoft is going to combat this is to threaten the employees with immediate termination if they use an iPod. Any memo like that will go over like a lead balloon, not to mention the total black eye that Microsoft management will receive once something like that hits the news circuit.
Rumor has it Microsoft employees are wrapping gum wrappers around their iPod Shuffles to conceal them. Others are hiding them in their hair and down their pants. It’s happy days at the ol’ Gates penitentiary. People trading tunes behind the trees, passing tunes under the table. Hell, even the Microtraz prison guards are in on the action. Gates hair is going to be extra oily this year. Ballmer’s would be too if he had any.
I wonder how many Redmond PC’s are sharing their iTunes over the M$ network?
I bet Rendevous has become like a worm over Bill’s infrastructure.
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This gives new meaning to Steve Jobs’ observation that “There is a choice. Microsoft and our competitors just don’t like the choice that consumers are making.” (paraphrased).
I have an iPod but I had my henchmen superimpose a Windows sticker over the Apple logo.
DRM sucks, even I know that. But what can I do? I like collecting checks from William “assnugget” Gates.
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I bet all those MS iPod owners have a nice case to disguise what’s going on.
When Bill Gates first saw the G1 iPod, at a trade show, I believe, he wondered aloud why it didn’t work with Windows. Laughed and said something to the effect that if it didn’t work with Windows it probably wasn’t going to go anywhere.
Looks like he got his wish, poor bastard.
Apple should make a TV ad “60% of our competitor uses our product, opposed to their own.”
I’ve never heard Bill Gates described as a ‘poor bastard’ before!
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Apple should send em all Mac Minis.
Frank wrote:
“But this isn’t any different than the Ford employee being told that his owning a Japanese car is not good for team spirit.”
It’s a lot uglier than that.
A local American “big three” plant has (or at least had) signs in the parking lot that read “Vehicles not built by the UAW are not welcome here”. And I can personally attest that Ford plant security guards aren’t exactly enthusiastic when you pull up with a UAW-built GM vehicle.
As for MS, you know it’s a lost cause when they can’t even keep the iPod from dominating their own campus. It’s the equivalent of that Ford parking lot being full of Toyotas! Go Apple!!
Its easy to fool a fool.
ipods? forget about them! don’t follow the foolish bandwagon that even MS now follows, do more socializing instead of listening to music all by yourself you loner. Get yourself a ghetto blaster and let everyone around you enjoy the music too!
Trippah,
They need the iPods to drown out Ballmer’s rants (and God knows what they must be now that Longhorn is officially a wreck).
While I certainly welcome seeing iPods in volume in Redmond, isn’t that yet another sign of something very wrong at MS? Think of the bad old days of Apple’s Copland, when Easter eggs in 7.x/8.x were more common than progress on Copland. Are the Redmondites just enjoying the music, or are they trying to drown out the sound of a corporate collapse?
There is something wrong with MDN. There is more Windows/MS trash talk than actual MAC/crApple talk. I think someone is jelous.
Who bloody cares about what MS is doing, this is a phuckin MAC/crApple forum, god damn.
But then again, I don’t even own a mac (except at work) and I read this crap. crApple will NEVER get me unless they give up their try hard ways of greed for power and control, and start opening up their proprietary systems.
“Apple will NEVER get me unless they give up their try hard ways of greed for power and control, and start opening up their proprietary systems.”
I hope you don’t use Windows at home then or you’re a bigger hypocrite than anyone else here. And we are talking about iPods here and the last time I checked, that is indeed Apple related…sounds like you need to chill…