“Microsoft is readying a digital music player to take on the iPod, according to a Reuters report. It also has plans for an online music service that will overtake Apple’s iTunes Music Store,” Tim Gaden reports for APC Magazine.
“Details are sketchy, but the report quotes ‘sources familiar with the plans’ who say that the music player has already been demonstrated to the music industry in licencing talks,” Gaden reports. “The project is headed by Robbie Back, who spearheaded the successful development of the Xbox video game business.”
“Microsoft’s music service offers ‘an improvement over iTunes,’ says one person who has seen a demonstration. It will offer a pay-per-download model like iTMS rather than the ‘all you can eat’ subscription model used by many current iTMS rivals,” Gaden reports. “It is not known when the player and music store will be launched. Perhaps Microsoft fears that any timing announcement would conflict with another Vista launch delay.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: The ubiquitous “Microsoft preps iPod+iTunes killer” article is like fruitcake as described by Johnny Carson. There’s only one in the entire world and people keep regifting it; annually at Christmastime for the fruitcake and seemingly weekly for the “iPod+iTunes killer” article. Isn’t it painfully obvious by now that, just like that damned fruitcake, nobody wants Microsoft’s grotesque versions of iPod+iTunes?
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Ho ever so hum.
This sentence makes no sense whatsoever:
“Microsoft’s music service offers ‘an improvement over iTunes,’ says one person who has seen a demonstration. It will offer a pay-per-download model like iTMS rather than the ‘all you can eat’ subscription model used by many current iTMS rivals”
Translation: It’s better than iTunes because it’s the same as iTunes and not like its competitors. Huh??
Get your Lawyers ready, Apple. M$ will pour money, money and more money into the game. They will be willing to lose a ton on it because it’s about more than Digital Music & Movies–it’s about their DRM vision for the future and FairPlay is in the way. They will do their best to Netscape & Word Perfect you. They also have billions of dollars to do it with.
If you should win this battle be on the lookout for flying chairs from a sweaty bald guy.
This is starting to be like Slashdot. We see duplicate “news” items (or in Slashdot’s case, “stories”) all the time.
‘Grotesque’. That is the term that bitch Pelosi used the other day.
Ahhhh??? What happened to Urge? YOu know, that iPod + iTunes killer that just happened. Sort of. Didn’t it??
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Was it so bad out of the box that Microsoft is already declaring it dead, . . . . or is Microsoft such a knife in the back kind of company (
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Why is it when MS introduces a new product, I think of Mike Myers doing his ‘middle age man’ routine from SNL.? WATCH OUT, it’s middle age man with a new product!LOL
Micro$uck will continue to die an horrible, lingering, bloated, balding, sweaty, out-of-breath, monkey-dancing death as long as Uncle Fester is in charge. Which will be for a while, eh?
iPod + iTunes killer? Pshaw.
Now, where’s that funny little picture again? Oh yes, here it is:
Many years ago, back when I lived in Wyoming, I drove on lonely highways where the ground squirrels would stare at my headlights until they were crushed by my car’s tires. I always felt so sorry for the poor, stupid creatures. It was kinda funny – in a sick way – the first few times it happened. But after so many deaths it lost the dark humor aspect and I got that depressing “damn-not-again” feeling.
I get the same feeling for the latest iPod/iTunes killer. It was funny watching them be crushed by Apple at first, but now it’s just sad.
I imagine whatever M$ come out with will be an ugly-looking black plastic thing that looks like it came from 1995, they’ll have an online music service that only works with lame old windows in wma format (low quality) and it’ll have the lamest corporate sounding name for the product, which will incorporate the comapny’s name as part of the product name. I hate how M$ feels that they need to dominate EVERY market, …soon they’ll be manufacturing food. I switched away from windows a few years back and I’m not going back, in fact M$ has become a dirty word for anti-quality and anti-competitive monopolizing assholes. Even if apple suddenly disappeared, I’d be more inclined to use a typewriter than a windows box or an old 8-track than an M$ music player.
There’s only one way it could be better than iTunes. It has to sell DRM-free music in a lossless format like FLAC.
You missed the comment “iTunes is the 7-11 (of music stores). You don’t hang out there.”
I shudder to think what the MSMS will be like. Somehow I don’t think I’ll want to hang out there.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/06/18/1150569211805.html
Robbie Bach hm.. so first they try and make a Mac.. and it’s a big hit.. now they take the same guy and ask him to make an iPod..
they’re obviously not paying him enough
FistOfGod:
Thanks for the pic! I hadn’t seen that one before!
I wonder if this is actually true or not. Like MDN says, everyone keeps recycling the same article. However, Microsoft hasn’t confirmed anything yet. Of course, the downside is Microsoft botches nearly everything they touch; however they can instantly saturate every PC in the world with it.
Also, MDN, if you agree that the article is like “fruitcake”, then perhaps you all should stop “re-gifting” them, also. (Along with the “Person X praises Apple over Microsoft” articles. We’ve all read enough of those already.
Ahhhh, they kill me with their endless predictions and nothing to show for it.
What demonstration to which music industry industry? Something as big as that would have been leaked the day it happened with a nice description of what kind of toaster it most closely resembles.
Just Bullshit and Bravado!
“Perhaps Microsoft fears that any timing announcement would conflict with another Vista launch delay.”
This is the funniest damned thing I’ve read all day. Essentially what I’m reading is this: M$ does not want to release any details about this iPod+iTunes killer because it would probably make Vista launch more quickly?!
Lord knows they don’t want to “conflict with another delay.” Let the delay happen all by itself and then announce the product. I wish that company would just crumble and wash away.
So wait, they’re working on new software? Does this, by extension become an admission that their existing media player is actually crap? That Urge, which uses it is crap? I think so.
” It also has plans for an online music service that will overtake Apple’s iTunes Music Store,””
Oh, I see. Previous plans have been terminally flawed by not including the part of overtaking iTMS. Man, that was sure stupid. Now that it is in their plan, though, this motherfscker is bulletproof.
“Microsoft’s music service offers ‘an improvement over iTunes,’ says one person who has seen a demonstration.”
Such as? It uses WMA? Basically, if anyone associated with MS thinks it is an improvement, that certainly means that it has been stripped of intuitive workflow and has several layers of bullshit on top of most basic and necessary controls. Sweet.
“It also has plans for an online music service that will overtake Apple’s iTunes Music Store.”
What an objective article. He doesn’t say that Microsoft’s service will compete with iTunes or that it could overtake iTunes. It will overtake iTunes. That’s pretty good prognostication from a guy who is getting his info from a seconhand source “familiar with the plans” and he’s never actually seen any of it himself. Moron.
“Isn’t it painfully obvious by now that, just like that damned fruitcake, nobody wants [Apple]’s grotesque versions of [Windows]?”
Strangely odd how that logic transfers so easily, yet here we are today.
They have no details yet they can somehow write and know that this service and hardware will somehow create some miracle that will suddenly overtake iTunes and the iPod. I’d say it’s another attempt but I don’t see how it could be anything else with no facts, no product, and no service to back it up with. And so far everyone’s attempts have been the same thing over and over. Monthly perscriptions and lousy DRM with IE only lousy web interfaces that make iTunes look just that much better.
Funny, to read all the comments here.
In the old days, they would have just…. taared and feathered someone who was coming to town and tried to peddle this CRAP that comes out of Mafiasoft.
I wouldn’t be over confident if I was Apple, the best and most innovative don’t always emerge as the most succesful or most dominant, take the case of VHS or Windows. Both of which were inferior products, but found market success. Just as MS has done with the XBox, they have moved into an industry and taken on the current industry leaders…Apple should be mindful and keep innovating like they have been
“who spearheaded the successful development of the Xbox”
Didn’t the Xbox lose M$oft a bunch of money until just recently?
Well, here’s where we see Microsoft’s “multiple vendor” strategy in flames.
Microsoft signed a deal with MTV for Urge. They were also going to team up with iRiver to have cool devices for Urge. Unfortunately, iRiver went tits-up before the deal could happen. Oh well…
Hey, I’ll be interested to see if Microsoft tries to pull this off and what will happen when they try. My guess: A Giant “Ho-Hum” from consumers.
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So let me get this straight.
For MS to catch up to Apple now, they need to:
• produce a hardware design 1/32 the size of an XB 360 room heater
• design a new dock connector, get it debugged and made an open standard
• design a secure web site for 1+M songs to look ‘cool’
• commission 1000+ accessories
• build multiple players from flash to HD
• convince the music people to allow single price singles, low price albums, single price music videos, low price audio-books, and low price TV shows
• easy to use podcasts accessible from most web sites
• build the players cheaply
• provide a smooth interface from store to player
• link to portable HiFi speakers, TVs, bog-roll-holders, infra-red, etc.
• write it to run on a Mac and phone
• allow the purchased music to work when transferred from one player to another
• provide an even greater service than this in the next 12 months for us to even consider moving, when Vista (software only) has taken 5+ years to now even get here?
Wake me in 5 years when they’ve released their first beta.
MW ‘rate’ as in I don’t rate their chances very high
Please keep making “iPod killers”. Everytime you do it makes the next iteration of the iPod exponentially better. Its working out great, it really is.
Does anyone have a count as to how many “iPod killers” there have been? We should keep a tally like some have done with the Apple death knell. I don’t think the iPod is untouchable but I get tired of hearing “iPod killer” everytime a new mp3 player is released. Although if someone is going to kill the iPod I don’t think Microsoft would be the one to do it. If they were smart they would partner with Samsung as they have the best looking players out there next to the iPod.
Regardless of what M$ brings to the table, good or poor, Apple has got to be ready to counter – by leading – as M$ will deliver a ton of bank behind their attack, boatloads of awareness campaigns…
To eliminate any M$ attack (which will be huge, did I mention that yet?…) Apple must deliver:
– iTunes with higher quality music – but same price points. 256k. Or, deliver two-tiered music, such as a lossless version for $1.49, something to this effect…
– A monthly rental program. It is low-hanging fruit, but delivers more choice, which will effectively counter what M$ brings to the table in this area as a M$ “advantage”
– A Yahoo-like per-month radio-like service. “My Music” type of space, along with abilities to purchase the new tune one is hearing for the first time, right out of the shoot.
~Steven
I am tired of the same lame headline!
Shit or get off the pot.
Re: iPod+iTunes killer….
my response is the same as when folk were yammering all the doom and gloom regarding the outbreak of Macintel viruses and such just a couple of months ago-
call/wake me when it happens.
not saying it couldnt…. just tired of all the speculation.
Sheesh, they didn’t even give URGE time to fail before starting on the next failure!
>Shit or get off the pot.
Concise and crass…or it that concrasse’?
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I agree though, let’s see this wonderment, I mean we’re all just a titter up in here. I’ll only be impressed if it supports OS X. If it misses this ‘minimal requirement’, what the hell good is it?
nobody?
cmon there will be a few
baltimore county officials perhaps
Holy Mackerel, Steven : that’s the best analysis I’ve read for a long time, short and efficient.
Himself : your comment is so funny, actually a lot of these comments are really funny and you are really clever people. The “crowd” above is so right
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I’ll tell you my story :
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I’ve had my MAC hook on 1988 for my MBA, being French I had enough to deal with the English lectures here in the US, and I didn’t want to bother losing time and papers with PCs…
Then I moved to different countries and eventually ended up again in France.
I’ve had the chance to join Micro$oft with a big money boost… but I really couldn’t picture myself telling to someone “I’m working for Micro$oft”. The company is a really good one to work for but its image is so so bad… I didn’t want to spend a typical “city dinner” explaining to people how “goood” this company is and trying to download the last spyware/virus cure off the net for them
I said to myself, we MAC lovers we’re a sect.
Micro$oft is very very dangerous, they’re eternal. Too many PCs and people use them. Mac is the de facto standard for clever and smart people but the mass Kmart people will always buy PC, thus bringing money to cro$oft. Cro$hit has time, they’re have enough money to buy any market and position even better their brand
oh I forgot this :
quoted from CNET.com today
“In October, Microsoft and RealNetworks reached a settlement to an antitrust claim. Under the deal, Microsoft agreed to pay RealNetworks $460 million in cash, $301 million to support its music and game efforts and to promote Rhapsody on its MSN Web business.”
Could we have more actual news of real events and less Windows-centric wishful thinking and less Microsoft propoganda?
MDN comments are xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, and racist. How charming.
We should ban this site because if windows users read it, they can use it as example of how bad mac users are.
Oh yes, we’re bad, bad, bad boys and girls because yet another drive-by Microsoft Zombie doesn’t like a few comments. Hello, can you say “I impress the rest of the third-graders in my class with my overgeneralizing skills?” I knew you could.