“Have you ever wondered how new technologies get developed in Microsoft? Wonder how a cool idea goes from incubation to release? Well, we’re excited to announce that we’ve started a blog designed to bring you closer to the process with the Gadgets blog and we’re kicking it off at the PDC,” Microsoft’s “Microsoft Gadgets” website reads.
MacDailyNews Take: No, we never wondered how new technologies get developed or how a cool idea goes from incubation to release at Microsoft. We even know the address from whence such cool ideas and technologies come: 1 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA 95014.
Microsoft’s “Microsoft Gadgets” page also reads, “What are Gadgets? Gadgets are a new category of mini-application designed to provide information, useful lookup, or enhance an application or service on your Windows PC or the Web.”
MacDailyNews Take: Gee, thanks for the explanation. Gadgets are Widgets, but the name was already taken, so Microsoft just copied the idea and introduced unnecessary complexity and usability issues, as usual.
“Gadgets come in three flavors,” Microsoft says.
MacDailyNews Take: Flavors? Now where have we heard that before? Oh, yes, from Apple. One of Microsoft’s “flavors” is “Gadgets for Windows Sidebar.” You know, like “Widgets for Mac OS X Dashboard.” Simple, huh?
Anyway, Microsoft’s so “super-excited” about the “cool idea” they’ve been “incubating,” that they want people to start start building their own. More info: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/dashboard/ Oops, sorry: http://microsoftgadgets.com/
MacDailyNews Take: To those who wish to scream “Konfabulator,” we present you “Apple Mac Desk Accessories” circa 1984.
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Yes, but dashboard is from Konfabulator so MDN shouldn’t get cocky on this particular news.
we all know that M$ is a shallow, pathetic coproration. thanks to today’s announcements most of the world will now realize that.
I personally think that they’ve shot themselves in the foot…
Fcsking Idiots Read Stupid Trash Syndicated People Obliviously Suck Tools
MDN Editor – Are you retarded
Seems like most of Microsoft’s R&D time is spent at Apple.com
Go visit the MS Gadget site and leave (public) comments to the “team” on just how innovative they are:
http://microsoftgadgets.com/blogs/gadgetnews/archive/2005/09/13/3.aspx#comments
Realise what Steve? that MDN is the worst site EVER? or that Microsoft Invented Widgets and Gadgets…LOL
Knowone carez about CrApple besides the Tools living here at Microsoft Daily News.
And thew truth is, Everyone WILL think that MS innovated the product…Sad but true…
How lame is this getting…..? it really seems like Apple is the development company for Microsoft. It must suck to work there.. as they truly are shamless.
And Konfabulator is an idea borrowed from Desk Accessories in the classic Mac OS. Hey, let’s have this argument again and again!
Tonight’s little joke! Hahaha!
But – is it anyone out there willing to bet against me when I predict that in the future there will be PC-users who will claim that Apple has copied Windows?
Thought not.
What has happened before, most likely will happen again…
That would be really unny if it weren’t so pathetic. They could do a whole Daily Show With Jon Stewart on this crap…
I also like the sidebar, which is Microsoft’s name for a dock.
Microsoft should name it “Windows OS X” rather than Vista.
“Wonder how a cool idea goes from incubation to release?”
Microsoft can incubate all their rotten ideas from here to kingdom come… they’re still not going to hatch!
Didn’t you know that Micro$oftopoly invented everything? They even filed a patent on double clicking a mouse.
Shocking isn’t it? What an in[competent]ovative company MS is. I’m in awe aren’t you
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A few yrs. back I had possession of a 128k mac. System 4.ish.
It amazed me:
On boot it asked if I wanted AppleTalk active?
And I could open and use all the DA’s on the disk at the same time…8 in all.
Call it Vista beta-20.
Far Out!
a widget…i mean gadget?? for your Trash? I mean recycle bin…how lame! how is that more useful then a trash, i mean recycle bin icon?????
Irrespective of the whole Konfabulator/Dashboard argument it still means that Microsoft is copying/stealing an idea that has been done prominently twice already. How brilliant of them.
Whew- that’s a lot for the first blog post. We’ll be blogging throughout PDC. Feel free to drop us your comments (keep them constructive please) and let’s start the conversation.
– Sean
keep it constructive please. its like there asking us not bash them over ripping off yet another apple invention.
What I REALLY liked about the site was the the first respondent on the site.
It seems that microsft is *still* all hype and vapourware….
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# re: Welcome to the Gadgets Blog! @ Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:52 PM
Neat idea. Link to an actual description and/or sample would be great.
JD
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Will MS Gad-gets be a separate add-on? What will its availability be? Will it be a new must-have part of Longhorn/Vista/XPSP3? (These are serious questions, I didn’t find the answers on MS’s site. Any takers?)
If Gidgets is to be part of Vista, it’ll delay Vista at least another two years. Also, given MS’s proven track record on security, Gidgets will be a huge new security hole just waiting to be tapped.
First we have Ballmer freaking at developers to “give it up” for him, now we have MS pleading with the world to get going on Gidgets. Funny, at Apple Steve J. gets his own applause, and Widgets took off on their own. The differences in the company cultures are stunning.
Nice tongue-in-cheek comment on the Microsoft site:
Hi there,
the idea of these seem strangely familiar for some reason… just can’t pin it.
Also- congratulations on the new glassy/bubble look that Vista is adopting… just proves how much Microsoft is capable of innovating- be careful someone like apple doesnt try stealing it now!
gadets+dashboard=konfabulator
cuppertino, redmond, start your photocopiers!
rob,
You’re an idiot:
To those who wish to scream “Konfabulator,” we present you “Apple Mac Desk Accessories” circa 1984:
http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_konfabulator
As I recall Widgets were originally supposed to be called Gadgets. SJ’s slip of the tongue and we were left with Widgets.
The pinstripe on that MS page don’t even line up. Notice how they go off center right where the Windows and Butterfly logos appear. Nice attention to detail, guys.
It seems that these Konfabulator guys were working for Apple when Apple was aquiring and implementing NeXT technologies, and that Widgets really came from NeXT. That’s what I’ve deduced from my research.
Before getting panties in a bunch … just wondering if this site is legit … the WHOIS info for http://www.microsoftgadgets.com appears to be dubious.
people: get beyond the microsoft self-promotion. thats not the story here.
the story is the way they *intend* to use it.
-instead of the brain dead translucent apple on laptop lids, why not implement informational info storage-data retreival widgets in a window on the cover instead.
-use of widgets in the blue apple menu
people: learn to read and appreciate what other developers are doing. apple cant sit and let widgets lie on a separate level within the opsystem.
there are some good indeas in the microsloth info.
-instead of the brain dead translucent apple on laptop lids, why not implement informational info storage-data retreival widgets in a window on the cover instead.
*Because the laptop is a retail product and the lid/cover is reserved for branding.
-use of widgets in the blue apple menu
*You’ve effectively relocated the widget. It’s still just a widget.
jay: the pinstipes: the actual problem comes from the original motif creator.
if you look at the shadow/reflection of each motif you will notice that the bottom od each does match up. the msn butterfly is simply taller than the windows logo.
however, that being said, yr point is still true, and is very well taken (and noticed!)
iuts why we love apple, isnt it?
Tools – not this time you weren’t. Two others beat you.
Curious. Nice catch. This does seem like some side project.
“Before getting panties in a bunch … just wondering if this site is legit … the WHOIS info for http://www.microsoftgadgets.com appears to be dubious.”
Ugh, good catch. I think we’ve all been snookered. A whois from Terminal doesn’t look like anything related to MS.
BTW, how does one do a whois for microsoft.com itself? I keep getting a list of other sites, and not MS’s info itself.
dfb, keep drinking the kool-aid. da’s are not even in the same class.
I can’t wait to see Monkeyboy CEO make another video showing the world how to use this ‘cutting edge’ technology…that would make it all worthwhile.
Andrew Hamilton
Las Vegas Videographers
http://www.hiproductions.com
DFB: “To those who wish to scream “Konfabulator,” we present you “Apple Mac Desk Accessories” circa 1984:
http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_konfabulator“
While it is easier to post a link to an article rather than do any critical thought of your own, the linked article is *way* off the mark.
Konfabulator Widgets use a language that casual programmers can pick up to create pleasing front-ends to internet content or self-contained apps that can permanently reside on the desktop. They’re also easy to open to tweak the work of others to meet your specific need. They’re in sharp contrast to Desk Accessories, which were a closed system requiring Real Programming and were around only until memory got cheap enough to render them unnecessary.
The idea of simple coding and an open format really sets Konfabulator apart from DAs here. In fact, its lineage would be more closely linked to apps like FaceSpan and OneClick (yet no one points to *those* as prior art).
I think it’s funny hear the same crowd that crowed so loudly about Dashboard being an original idea and a natural evolution now stand up in outrage about Microsoft stealing the concept. At least Microsoft changed the name of their mini-apps.
Im just shocked that they werent named something like Windows Vista WMA Enabled Low-Function Applications Environment 2500XPFSDFGH
Mac Daddy, you are right again. I wonder how many days before someone tells me that MS was ripped off by Apple.
ITS
A
FAKE
WEBSITE!!!!
THE KNICKER TWISTING CAN STOP NOW.
Somebody out there is having a real laugh at the people who are crying fould over this on that site – including me! i hate microsoft products – and love apple products – but some of the stuff on that site written by apple fans is nothing short of playground mentality in overdrive.
MS should called them Migets
Dashboard is based on Apple’s Desktop Accessories from the original Mac OS. Konfabulator was only successful because it took the old idea and made it fit in with Mac OS X. Hardly surprisingly, Dashboard also fits in with mac OS X, thus making Konfabulator irrelevant.
I don’t want my gadget micro and soft. 🙁
have you people checked out some of the blogs of the contributers?
i think this site is totally legit – but being down as a side project by the developers! most of them have links to it – and articles.
also from one of the blogs is this thing – very mac like
http://www.microsoft.com/max/
look at this!!!
the side bar has become pure dock like and no messing!!!
A Different Rob –
The linked article acknowledges your distinction and credits OneClick as the missing link between Desk Accessories and Konfabulator.
Apparently, it’s easier to scan an article then criticize its relevance than it is to read what’s been cited first.
MDN’s links are frequently off-base, but this one is right on, I’m afraid.
i just posted as on the following microsoft blog –
‘…you’ve got to be kidding right?!?! at least acknowledge that Apple have been there, done it, bough the t-shirt and then put it up for sale on eBay!
hello?! http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/features/dashboard/…’
please keep the language clean though as one dumbass seems to have sworn all over the place.
http://galactic-patrol.blogspot.com/
If anyone actually went to the site, let me also add somethig I noticed. The background on the site…..the dark grey and light grey lines… it reminds me of earlier versions of OS X….I wonder if Vista’s windows look like that and thats where the site got the idea….it wouldn’t surprise me.
-Just thought you’d might like to know
Here’s my favorite quote from the new <i>”http://microsoftgadgets.com/blogs/gadgetnews/archive/2005/09/13/3.aspx”<i>, the so called M$ Gadgets site.
“# re: Welcome to the Gadgets Blog! @ Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:14 PM
Why don’t you just call it Windows OS X and be done with it?”
Oh, my side!
While I won’t speak for whether or not the website is fake, the eWeek article shows that the concept is real and, yes, they are called “gadgets.”
Seriously, since apple isn’t advertising, how could people know Apple (or konfabulator) did this first?
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Damn it Apple! Get a grip and show people (not us already in the cult
MacMania missed the best part of the delicious (and it is delicious) quote:
“Why don’t you just call it Windows OS X and be done with it?”
It’s credited to:
Paul Thurrott
oh my sides too
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I want a chair throwing, Google killing, Steve Ballmer Gadget.
Oh yea, I want a Bill Gates “China F–ked Us” Gadget too.
Shameless! That’s all I can say.
And to the poster who said that the widgets have been copied from Konfabulator, well Apple had a similar thing (I think they were called desktop accesories) before Konfabulator.
– Mark
Microsoft’s R&D is located in Cupertino, CA. Apple Computers is the name of there R&D. Let’s see what else they will copy from Apple. Oh yea, I heard that Office 12 will have an aqua look with the metal type interface that Apple currently has.
It’s real, but not until Vista (early-mid 2008). By then OSX 10.6 Jackal would have well done away with those oh so yesterday widgets.
wait for Thurrott’s about-face.. seriously…
Widgets are applets that DO NOT PRODUCE any kind of file.. in other words.. they are NOT applications, but DO serve a purpose.. IOW.. they do produce SOME output..
Even if it’s a game, or checking a website for you etc.
Thurrott thinks Widgets are utterly and totally pointless.. yes.. all 1200+ of them..
Let’s see what he thinks about.. er.. MS’s version.. well.. when this thing is released Xmas 2006
Hammer – thanks for a good belly-laugh!
The funny thing is.. the Widgets that MS designs are… FUGLY
hehe..
look at the music one.. okay.. fugly..now the boring RSS feed..
Gah! Apple’s were meant to show you a glimpse of what was possible.. this just says “Do Not Open till 2007–Under Construction”
Dear god mac fans are protected of apple’s intellectual property… which they stole from konfabulator. and yes i’m throwing that right in your faces. Why don’t I throw “Xerox” in your face which Gates and Jobs both copied from? And we can have this stupid argument all over again!
Of course if you want to waste all of your time arguing about this and that, be my guest. Some of us aren’t 14 anymore.
It DOES matter that Microsoft copies Apple, even though Apple copies too.
Why?
Because it means we Mac users get all this great technology FIRST.*
I take it that, as a Windows user, you’re a little sensitive** about that?
* Viruses and spyware excepted. Macs have none.
** Way to regurgitate Konfab and Xerox without looking into the full story in either case! First rule of trolling: repeat without thinking.
I think M$ should come up with an expose type feature aswell….. and use F9 through F12 to access these new features….. that would be sweet
I invite you to read…
http://www.mackido.com/Interface/ui_history.html
You may find some info here:
http://www.igeek.com/
http://www.folklore.org/index.py
I haven’t seen such coping since xerox. I have seen more originality from a Elvis impersonator. I haven’t seen this much crap since the State Fair. Microsoft would make a good carbon paper.
Before panties get in a twist about Konfabulator – ever heard of DA’s? Desk Accessories? I little history lesson is in order.
http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_konfabulator
Ah well, seems I missed the first posting of the daringfireball link. Still, history lessons are important.
So is Arlo of Konfabulator fame gonna raise hell and bitch about how Microsoft is ripping them off too? LOL.
And Yeah, I know, Yahoo now owns Konfabulator.
WOW. MDN has turned into the ultimate of Mac apologists.
The Daring Fireball article about Konfabulator basically seems to say this: Dashboard is different from Konfabulator because it’s built to consume less CPU and uses different code. Whoop-de-do. The idea is the same; the purpose of the widgets is the same. It doesn’t matter who picked the name “widget” first. It’s like giving credit for every single program ever written to an OS to the first guy that named it a program.
The fact is, the purpose of Dashboard is eerily similar to the purpose of Konfabulator, and I’m not sure I buy the argument that Apple developed this idea effectively first. To me, it seems like you just argue that Apple is innovating because they rewrote the code from scratch to be different.
Well if Microsoft decided to put in “Gadgets” into Windows, and they did it by introducing a new coding language, then ladies and gentlemen, they are innovating.
The article does nothing to quell my full belief that Dashboard is still a basic concept stolen from Konfabulator.
This is who we are; this is how we earn it: We steal it from Apple. — Microsoft
My post on their site….
Hi.
I hope you irrelevant nerds at Microsoft can understand this.
Apple has outdone you, by far. Just because you weasels may have stock in the company, doesn’t mean they’re working for you. Give credit where it is due, losers.
What a shameful display you proudly set up here. I can’t wait to see Leopard pounce all over your sad OS (pronounce: Oss for better effect)
Hasta La Vista,
John Gee
Anyway…. Did DesktopX really preclude Konafabulator? If so, gadgets are more closely related to M$.
Of course, let’s all remember: Windows is forever dull.
Gee
At the comments board almost all of them are taking the piss out of Microsoft for their “innovation”
The BEST comment is:
“re: Welcome to the Gadgets Blog! @ Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:14 PM
Why don’t you just call it Windows OS X and be done with it?
Paul Thurrott”
http://microsoftgadgets.com/blogs/gadgetnews/archive/2005/09/13/3.aspx#comments
Would LOVE to know if it is really him. He has been PRETTY SCATHING of the ammount of OSX that is ending up in Vista recently.
my 2 cents
Luke
Windows “VIGER”
Surely the story here should not be how M$ is copying Apple (again) but how Apple does not protect its intellectual property! Being the innovator means nothing if you then leave the door open to others to use your inventions ….
The problem is this: Does anyone hold a patent for these things?
Do not expect people in a cutthroat industry to miss out on an opportunity of recreating a good thing that has not been patented.
We Mac lovers often whine and complain about Apple’s innovations being “stolen”, but we should complain about Apple “giving them away” by not patenting them.
some good comments
http://www.blogger.com/publish-comment.do?blogID=9044302&postID=112665439778359497&r=ok
You know, as long as MS don’t try and stuff their gadgets full of proprietary Windows code, this could be a good thing. More widgets/gadgets for all.
And let’s face it, Dashboard wasn’t exactly a new idea in the first place was it? I remember using these things on OS/2 back in the 90s.
If you guys heard the latest TWIT podcast, you can hear Arlo, creator of Konfabulator, explain that he was approached by both Yahoo and Microsoft about buying Konfabulator but wouldn’t go into much detail with the MS talks. It does sound like he possibly licensed his technology over to MS, otherwise, you would of heard the outcries by now!
I just went to the “Microsoft Max” site wtf? mentions. The little robot with his dog near the bottom — the one below the words “We are not robots” — hey, it’s the Automator guy!
Follower –
Wow. It *is* the automator guy. In a sweater. With a dog. Though they very clearly have drawn a line in the sand by saying they’re NOT robots, whereas Apple’s Automator guy specifically says that he IS a robot.
So that settles that.
Redoing something or improving an idea is not innovation. Interface color choices are not innovation no matter how you stack it up. Stop overusing the words: innovation, elegant, etc…Microsoft making their windows have more of a 3d look after all this time is totally expected. Those of you who are worried about who did widgets and gadgets first don’t seem to get it. Let it the hell go. Apple stole pages and keynote from Microsoft….the idea at least….right? So once someone does something, no one else is supposed to attempt to make a better app? Let it go and stop acting like someone stole your marbles at recess. Fsck! How the hell is anyone supposed to take such beotches seriously.
Widgets are mini browser windows with the ability to tap into cocoa. Simple enough. I repeat, they are little web browser windows, with the capability to use higher level programming languages to add functionality. It’s not that big of a deal. Konfabulator wanted 25 bux for this and they provided no UI to design widgets. On top of that, anyone who wanted to run widgets had to pay 25 bux also. It was a bad model and an incomplete product. I tried it for a few days to see what the fuss was about after dashboard came out. It sucked ass and I threw it in the trash.
Ok, so maybe Microsoft is putting a face on it like they dreamt it up. Let them go. Until Apple runs a few friggin tv and magazine ads in the right places and starts concentrating on marketing something besides the iPod we’ll all be safe from viruses and such. =)
I really have serious doubts about the legitimacy of this site. Take the out of line pinstriping, the spurious WHOIS info (below), and the lack of at least copyright or registered symbols on the title, “Microsoft Gadgets”, the lack of a “www.” before the site name (it is just http://microsoftgadgets.com. Microsoft almost always would have something like this under either http://WWW.microsoftgadgets.com or, more likely, gadgets.microsoft.com or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/gadgets. The site also lacks a real Microsoft logo anywhere. Contrast this with the perfect architecture of microsoft.com.
WHOIS registrar info for microsoftgadgets.com:
Jack Spurr
62 Rcom Drive
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B1
CA
Email: admin@internationaladmin.com
Don’t I remember something about Microsoft being located in Washington state?
Whether this particular site is legit or not, it still remains that the Gates himself showed off Windows Vista with a couple prominently displayed gadgets in the sidebar, so we know the concept is legit. What does it really matter then, if microsoftgadgets.com is legit? We all know that M$ is shamelessly ripping off Apple on more than this one count.
Maybe the thinking in Redmond goes something like this… “What… only 13 months until scheduled release and still no good ideas!?!?! Head to R&D South!”
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Hey Voyager – have you checked all other blogs as well?
There’s a bunch of developers blogging the same thing.
I think it’s real.
Russell..two words…Desktop Accessories (circa 1984) before DesktopX or Konfabulator…
Can’t be real because it says Powered by Community Server, Has links to Googles blogspot, Copyright does not have “All rights reserved.” like all other copyrights on Microsoft.com, no MSN links, etc.
Ballmer says to Gates “Where Do You Want to Go Today?”. Gates replies “Cupertino, errr I mean Microsoft R&D South”.
Konfabulator contains its own self-contained JavaScript runtime engine, based on SpiderMonkey, the open source JavaScript engine from the Mozilla Project. Konfabulator UI layouts are specified in a custom XML format. I.e.:
Konfabulator = (Custom XML format) + (Custom JavaScript engine)
Dashboard, on the other hand, is based on WebCore, the underlying open source layout and scripting engine behind Safari. Dashboard gadgets are indeed scripted using JavaScript, the same language used by Konfabulator, but Dashboard uses the JavaScript engine that’s built into the system. And for UI layout, Dashboard gadgets are specified using HTML and CSS — using the same rendering engine as Safari.
Apparently Microsoft invented the wheel, telephone, cars, internet, tv, newspapers and fast food!
Amazing – They even invented music.
There u go – what an amazing company….
NOT!
They will be patenting ‘breathing’ as everyone knows microsoft invented that too – the only problem is that someone called God/divine being says he/she did. SO Microsoft will pay off the patent company as it always does and give the guy some cash.
PC Apologist: “The linked article acknowledges your distinction and credits OneClick as the missing link between Desk Accessories and Konfabulator.”
It doesn’t claim OneClick is a “missing link”, it mentions it as an example of another script-based mini-app creator.
No one is saying that programs are created in a vacuum, but the distance between Dashboard and Konfabulator is *far* shorter than that between Desk Accessories/FaceSpan/OneClick and Konfabulator.
re Paul Thurrott quote
I asked. He said “no”
It wasn’t him
What I love about Apple users is how they subsidize all the cool stuff we Windows users get by paying for Apple’s inflated hardware prices.
I just want to say “thank you.” It’s quite charitable. I know that I’ll enjoy Aero/Aqua shell with my Office Aqua interface–minus the 25% premium the Apple used, er… users, pay.
Well enjoy waiting more than a year to “enjoy” all those things then.