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Johansen said: 'Windows Media Player is not very good and Windows and Mac users should not be forced to use it to view such [NSC] streams.'"

Kudos to anything that helps us avoid the atrocity that is Windows Media Player.

About time!

i don't get why there are still a lot of people backing/adopting Microsoft technology after all that we learned about Microsoft and its business practices. the virus factor alone should be enough reason to abandon the platform completely.

Eric24601,

the same people that vote for a stupid president that can't make a positive decision or course of action for the US unless the media calls him on it or big money is involved that benefits his round table of evil.

it is a crap player. any player that doesn't let you always fast forward through video via a scroll mechanism in every instance is painful to use

Eric24601 said:
"the virus factor alone should be enough reason to abandon the platform completely."

You'd think so. but in general, people get used to the flak. Also, despite the growing awareness that Macs have no viruses, they just can't believe it. This sounds just like more hype about protection and safety. After all, they don't believe M$ when they say it.

MW: already-as in, enough, alaready!

Good for you DVD Jon!

Excuse muntz, obviously not have a clue to the facts doesn't stop him from speaking.

Everything is GW Bush's fault. Everything. From cavities, to why WMP sucks.

actually if you RTFA, Johansen points out that the stream is hardly encrypted. all he did was crack the wrapper around the file so it's user-readable. the "encryption" is a misnomer...it's more like a complicated ROT13.

MDN: "near," as in M$ was so "near" having everyone fooled into thinking its media format was hacker-proof.

GW Bush is responsible for everything bad....from cavities, to why WMP sucks.

Just once, I'd like for MDN to delete the political bile from the comments section where there is nothing in them that pertains the discussion at hand.

As for DVD Jon, good for you, that should improve WMV playability on VideoLAN, which I use sometimes for AVIs and WMVs that won't play in anything else (even WMP9, go figure!)

i like vlc more than mplayer, and i use it just as much as i use quicktime. especially for file formates that i can't get to play on quicktime. so this is good news. what i'm not clear on is has the hack already been added to vlc or do i have to download something?

Eric, the answer to your question is: Security.

.... job security, that is. If even 5% of the businesses running on Windoze switch to anything but, there'd be tens of thousands of former IT personnel in welfare lines.

MW: yes, as in "yes, there is a method to the madness. It's just not very rational."

The only problem is that in my experience the playback on VLC for WMP files bites even more than it does in WMP itself.

re: cool - You'll need to download an updated version of VLC when it becomes available on their site.

"i don't get why there are still a lot of people backing/adopting Microsoft technology after all that we learned about Microsoft and its business practices. the virus factor alone should be enough reason to abandon the platform completely."

Say that to all the Mac users who install OfficeMac and VPC, that's the ones who are selling out.

muntz:

"it is a crap player. any player that doesn't let you always fast forward through video via a scroll mechanism in every instance is painful to use"

Careful now - I don't think the people around here like it very much when you talk trash about Apple's DVD Player...

Let's start a collection for bodyguards for 'DVD Jon': I'm sure he's public enemy number for all the media scum and M$.

Rock on Jon!

I use Quicktime to play non-DRM WMP files with WMV Player. Works great!

http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm

muntz

the same people that vote for a stupid president that can't make a positive decision or course of action for the US unless the media calls him on it or big money is involved that benefits his round table of evil.

I thought Slick Willy was out of office.

Muntz, did GW burn your teddy bear when you were a child? There is no point in bringing him into this thread. Also there are plenty of Mac owners who are conservatives or republicans.

Is this the same guy?

http://nanocrew.net/

*points Redmond's way* Ha Ha!

Say what you will about Slick Willie. He was not "stupid".

Niether is W. A complete ass maybe. A little slow on the uptake. A corporate tool. A backwards redneck. Grandson of a Nazi sympathizer. Son of CIA. Next in line at the Carlyle Group maybe.

Not stupid.

Most people: cattle.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't DVD Jon the same person that cracked the iTunes encryption algorithm?

I hope he works on iTMS DRM soon. Now that'd definitely be good news!

“i don't get why there are still a lot of people backing/adopting Microsoft technology after all that we learned about Microsoft and its business practices. the virus factor alone should be enough reason to abandon the platform completely.”

Because people are stupid.

“Niether is W. A complete ass maybe. A little slow on the uptake. A corporate tool. A backwards redneck. Grandson of a Nazi sympathizer. Son of CIA. Next in line at the Carlyle Group maybe.

Not stupid.”

No, he’s stupid as a stick, trust me.

muntz,

I thought it was the states responsiblilty to first take care of natural disasters and then call in the Feds if they can't handle it.

Let us not forget that W is an iPod user.

Why is it that neither G. Bush senior not Jeb Bush have the "good ol' boy, down home" Texan accent? Is Dubya faking it?

How come this guy isn't in prison.

And why are all you Apple fan boys saying how great it is, yet when he cracked iTunes you were all over him like a rash?

Dear All,

This may in fact be really old news. I've been using this version of VLC (0.8.2) for over a month. Just subscribe to http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/ and you get all the updates sent to your email account.

Oh, and by the way VLC rocks; it'll play just about any movie format. It still needs work but anyone who understands software numbering systems knows that this is still in the beta stage. As for Apple's DVD Player there is no excuse. Try Nice Player instead. Yes it's still in beta stage as well but between the two they leave Apple's player for dead. My two bob's worth.

where are you?,cowboys,ww2 soldiers,men on the moon,today all my dreams about you...where are we going to see to find new dreams ?.

"anyone who understands software numbering systems knows that this is still in the beta stage"

And anyone who understands projects like these knows that it will probably never leave the beta stage. I swear, the unwillingness of some open-source projects to suck it up and call a release "1.0" astounds me. I use VLC often and it's easily worthy of being called 1.0. Sure there are some bugs, but they're minor, and what 1.0 release doesn't have bugs?

i dont get it how does this work

VLC -- a shining example of open source greatware. MW: peace.

inferno10:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't DVD Jon the same person that cracked the iTunes encryption algorithm?

Ummm, no. He cracked DVD encryption, hence the name.

Where can I reach this DVD Jon. I may have a little job for him.

Concerned,

Thank you for pointing out, yet again, MDN's short memory and tunnelvision in the face of hypocracy.

MDN flip-flops worse than John Kerry. Oh, and speaking of stupid Presidents - John Kerry fiiinally released his Yale transcripts and he had a lower GPA than Bush. Hmmm....

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student?mode=PF