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Bill Gates lists Microsoft ‘innovations’ that Apple has offered Mac users for years
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 01:31 PM EST

CNN's Miles O'Brien interviewed Bill Gates about the debut of Microsoft's new operating system, Windows Vista, this morning.

One portion was especially interesting:

O'Brien: Frankly, a lot of what I see here, um, seems to mimic a little bit [Apple's Mac] OS X. Were you going after a specific look there, the Mac look, or?

MacDailyNews Take: A little bit? Ya think?

Gates: No, no, no. Actually, uh, the, we're ahead [slight pause] on a lot, uh, there's whole areas where we've innovated like Media Center and tablet, uh, that, uh, no one else is doing and the parental control, that's the first time that's been done. Even in this photo area, you know, we'd love to have you compare how we've done, make it easy to make a DVD, edit high definition movies.

Snippet of Miles O'Brien's CNN interview with Microsoft's Bill Gates:


Full video interview here.

MacDailyNews Take: Note Gates' uncomfortable squirming in his chair, frequent pauses, and "uhs." Wow.

Gates' body language reminds us of PC's squirming here:


Mr. Gates, perhaps the reason that no one else is doing "innovations" like Media Center and tablet is because of your, uh, sales figures for those products?

As for the rest:
Parental Controls: Apple debuted Parental Controls in Mac OS X Tiger, released on April 29. 2005. That's nearly two years ago. (Gates yesterday spoke with NBC's Today Show host Meredith Vieira and tried out the same "parental controls" lie there, too, at 2:34 into the video here.)
Photos: Apple debuted iPhoto on January 7, 2002. That's over five years ago.
DVD creation: Apple debuted iDVD on January 9, 2001. That's over six years ago.
Movies: Apple debuted iMovie on October 5, 1999. That's over seven years ago. Oh, HD? Okay, Apple debuted iMovie HD on January 11, 2005. That's over two years ago.

So much for Microsoft's "whole areas" of innovation.

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Jan 30, 07 - 01:35 pm Comment from: RC

Let the stupid sheep buy Vista. When they get it home and it won't even run on their 2 year old PC, they'll really know what Gates means by "Wow"...

Jan 30, 07 - 01:40 pm Comment from: elvispanda

Perfect time for a Mac and PC Guy ad about Parental Controls. Best to combat the Gates lies with humor.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:40 pm Comment from: Oops

Bill Gates' body language is very revealing. Have a look at this interview and also at the one yesterday on MSNBC with that Meredith Vierra chick. In both interviews when he is asked about Vista's obvious similarities to OS X, he does a big shuffling about and repositioning of himself in his chair. It's the same "tell" both times. This sort of body language reveals that a person is highly uncomfortable with the issue before them. As well he should be.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:41 pm Comment from: Truth Decay

"we'd love to have you compare how we've done"


Them's fightin' words, Clem.


If Bill's dad was Geppetto, he would have skewered thousands of people to death in the southeastern U.S. this morning unfortunate enough to be in his line of nostrils.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:41 pm Comment from: iMaki

I must admit some of the screenshots I've seen of Vista are impressive. They truly made a big stride in visual elegance, no doubt thanks to Apple. Leopard better be revolutionary with a whole new look. From what I've seen, however, it looks a lot like the current OSX. That, to me, is disappointing. I like visual change. On that one note, Microsoft scored a hole-in-one. Aside from that, Vista is a failure.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:44 pm Comment from: Tommy Boy

Will Gates throw chairs when he gets back to Redmond when every interviewer has asked him how it feels to have released a Mac clone?

Jan 30, 07 - 01:46 pm Comment from: Eric

Sad. I think Bill Gates is doing more to wreck Vista than help it. They really should have had someone with more speaking experience doing these interviews. Gates looks really sad in all of them (Daily Show, CNN, etc).

Jan 30, 07 - 01:48 pm Comment from: Macaday

Great stuff. They're all asking and he hates it.

Good. Squirm Bill. Squirm.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:50 pm Comment from: Oops

Wow, upon looking more closely at Vista, it would appear that it really is an adavance over Apple's offerings. Why, you can easily edit high-definition content, easily make your own DVD movies, and they have this nifty photo gallery app that offers basic touch-up capabilities as well as serving as a central repository for your photo collection.

I have to admit that this is all pretty cool stuff, and I'd really love to have it, so I'm going to switch to Vista now, seeing as how you can't do any of that on the Mac for years now.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:51 pm Comment from: Truth Decay

This is where you send comments to CNN on the blatant, outright lies told to Miles O'Brien this morning:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/

Who knows? They might try a follow-up.
A six billion dollar, five year waste of time is certainly newsworthy.
Think of all of the shareholders and pension funds that should sue Microsoft for a monumental waste of resources.
Gates doesn't have to know truth from lies.
He actually believes he decides the truth.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:51 pm Comment from: Jeff

Looser, twat, nerd ... MDN word= Glass, yeah Glass!

Jan 30, 07 - 01:51 pm Comment from: flappo

TOO faaakin funny

bill

you got OWNED !!

Jan 30, 07 - 01:52 pm Comment from: Gregg Thurman

What I think is interesting is that journalists have the gonads to pose the question.

Let's face it, Gates & Co. have been copying the Mac since Windows 1.0. Its just that now, they're getting called for it.

The King is wearing no clothes.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:52 pm Comment from: war

I did say "WOW" to some of the features in windows Vista. However, I did my "WOW" during the Macworld keynotes over the past 8 years to these innovative features. Heck, some of the features were in OS9. WOW, MS innovation is finally heading into the late 90s. "Microsoft.Where did I go yesterday?" I would say today but been there, done that.

Jan 30, 07 - 01:54 pm Comment from: whatever

Well that about wraps it up for Photoshop Elements.... Now that the Photo thing is "Built in the OS" It will kill any 3rd party photo programs.. Here we go with the whole Explorer monopoly thing again..

Jan 30, 07 - 01:54 pm Comment from: Truth Decay

"um, seems to mimic a little bit [Apple's Mac] OS X"

Nice way to back off there, Miles, you pussy. Was Billy concealing a gun?

Jan 30, 07 - 01:55 pm Comment from: Buster

Zune Tang....what have you done with OOPS body?

Jan 30, 07 - 01:56 pm Comment from: hotinplaya

If you go to cnn.com

they have a quick vote, (along right lower side)

Will you be updating your software to Vista??

after my vote the results were

yes, right away 6%

eventually, no rush 78%

I don't use windows 16%

I am impressed with the "I don't use windows" vote

Jan 30, 07 - 01:56 pm Comment from: Teflon

It really doesn't matter. Microsoft won the OS war decades ago, and they did just enough to keep their user base satisfied.

If hardly anyone switched in the last 5 years, do you really think they will now.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:02 pm Comment from: Switched 2 years back...to OS X of course.

Windows Vista, bringing the power of OS X* to those who believe they're 'innovating'!






* Windows Vista's OS X power has been significantly reduced due to some major blemishes on the copier's glass. Functionality may be impaired.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:02 pm Comment from: mike k.

while MDN is right to call shenanigans on Gates, it is worth remembering that first to market does not = best implementation. See the iPod, par example ...

Jan 30, 07 - 02:02 pm Comment from: Unsquirted

BUSTER! QUICK! Turn on your sarcasm meter!

Whew! That was a close one.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:04 pm Comment from: Vista Commercial by Apple

PC walks up to Mac dressed in a tshirt and hoodie, and announces that he just came back from surgery and upgraded to Vista. PC then turns around and asks for Mac's opinion.

Mac, stares at PC in disbelief, and tells him that he's had that same look and features for the last five years. PC stammers and disagrees with him.

PC then starts sneezing, and informs Mac that he still must have caught a virus. A guy comes in dressed as a Hollywood director, takes PC's glassess off of his face, throws them on the door and stomps on them. When PC and Mac demands an explanation, he tells them that since PC's glasses don't protect high def movie content, he's entitled to break them. PC stammers that he doesn't watch high def movies, and Hollywood guy informs him that he can do that with Vista, read the contract. PC sadly stammers that he can't read the Vista contract since his glasses have just been broken.

PC then begins to sigh and softly weep: he still hurts from the upgrade surgery, he still has gotten sick on the internet, and the Hollywood type broke his glasses. PC states that he is now sorry that he went to Vista.

Mac walks over to PC and consoles him with a pat to the back. Hollywood Guy walks over to Mac, asks if Mac has glasses, and Mac makes him leave the commercial. The scene cuts to an iMac with an unbroken pair of glasses in front of it.[end]

Jan 30, 07 - 02:04 pm Comment from: justified

Did anyone notice yesterday's Gates retort regarding Mac vs. Windows innovation? He completely broadsided the the issue with what was less a response and more a non-violent threat:

"Remember that Windows is where the investment is. It's where the partners are. That's why it's the best."

Translation: Everyone's buried so deep in Windows infrustructure, you have no choice now.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:05 pm Comment from: improvements to expose please =)

1. i press f10 for expose and the windows appear on my screen in a specific pattern
2. i select a window and work
3.. i press f10 for expose again and the widows are in a slightly DIFFERENT arrangement than before

That annoys me; especailly when i've many windows open and am trying to get work done. I don't want to hunt down the previous window. Otherwise, expose kicks ass.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:05 pm Comment from: Chris

Teflon,
I'm worried that they will switch. There are already too many switchers asking for the Mac to act more like Windows. I don't mind the Mac getting more market share, but I don't want it polluted by Window's crappy user interface.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:07 pm Comment from: critic

"From what I've seen, however, it looks a lot like the current OSX. That, to me, is disappointing. I like visual change."

Unfortunately, most users just get confused by change. OSX will stay pretty much the same visually for quite a while.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:07 pm Comment from: RE: mike k.

If you are implying that Vista may in fact be a better implementation of Mac OS X features, let's just do a quick comparison of system requirements and what is accomplished with those resources.

But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were praising the iPod.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:07 pm Comment from: ken1w

The Windows Vista launch feels like a non-event. And it's timed at the worst possible time of the year. At least MS will have some more time to release Vista SP1 before the back-to-school and holiday shopping.

Apple needs to make a big splashy announcement about Leopard and show off all its features NOW, before the official release date. Since many Windows users get their new version of Windows when they upgrade their PCs, such an announcement will make them wait (if buying a new PC) and at least consider getting a Mac. Additionally, Apple can offer a free upgrade to Leopard program for new Macs purchased between now and Leopard's release date, so that Mac sales are not adversely impacted by a Leopard "full preview" announcement.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:08 pm Comment from: SJ

O snap! MDN pwned Gates.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:09 pm Comment from: Malthus

"If you go to cnn.com

they have a quick vote, (along right lower side)

Will you be updating your software to Vista??

after my vote the results were

yes, right away 6%

eventually, no rush 78%

I don't use windows 16%

I am impressed with the "I don't use windows" vote"


Interesting. I went to look at this, but it now just offers "Will you rush out to buy Microsoft's new Windows Vista operating system? Yes/No". No I-don't-use-Windows option. Still, 97% answer NO.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:13 pm Comment from: Kit-N

Okay,

NBC is owned by Microsoft, right? MSNBC, right? So they set up an interview with Lord Gates, but this is supposed to be journalism, right? A real journalist would do the research and ask some hard-hitting questions, yes?

So what do they do but put him in front of Meredith Viera (a journalistic deity, not unlike Geraldo Rivera) who admittedly is "computer phobic".

"Oh, Lord Gates, you've invented parental controls? Oh thank you Lord Gates, thank you! Oh, Microsoft is on the cutting edge of innovation? Oh, thank you Lord Gates, thank you! (drool, slobber)...

NBC execs breath a sigh of relief. Bullet dodged. Jobs saved. Pensions secured. Lord Gates comes off looking like the mastermind of a competent corporation.

Ya gotta love it.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:15 pm Comment from: hotinplaya

this is the page I found it on, and it was there just now

http://edition.cnn.com/

any way, both results are "interesting"


Gates took a big chance letting Miles run vistas live, he probaly wished he had a MacBook Pro w/bootcamp, for peace of mind

Jan 30, 07 - 02:17 pm Comment from: Truth Decay

Kit-N: "NBC is owned by Microsoft, right?


Nope. 80% GE, 20% Vivendi Universal - now called NBC Universal

Jan 30, 07 - 02:20 pm Comment from: Eric24601

In 1995, Apple sued Microsoft for $1B after the release of Windows 95 for copying the look and feel of the Mac OS. They settled out of court and Microsoft paid Apple 750 million dollars in cash plus a 5-year guarantee that Microsoft will release an update to the Mac version of MS Office, among other things. In turn, Apple agreed not to talk about the settlements.

I can smell another lawsuit brewing. Apple is much stronger now so as not give in to a buy-out.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:24 pm Comment from: Yours Smugly

The CNN poll now has only two choices, 'yes' and 'no', for the question "Will you rush out to buy Microsoft's new Windows Vista operating system?"

'No' is leading with 97 %.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:24 pm Comment from: No Long Lines as Microsoft Releases Windows Vista

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,248228,00.html

Jan 30, 07 - 02:27 pm Comment from: Irish Dude

This clip is too funny folks LOL

Jan 30, 07 - 02:31 pm Comment from: buffalo

I think this headline from CNN says it all.

Microsoft Vista for dummies

Jan 30, 07 - 02:34 pm Comment from: winmacguy

can someone post a link to the poll please?

Jan 30, 07 - 02:35 pm Comment from: Beryllium

It looks like Gates should stick to charity work. With Bozo Balmer in charge of the factory, there's not much Bill can do but try desparately to clean up the crap and spray air freshener.

MW: subject. What Gates would like to have changed when O'Brien asked him about the obvious Mac OS X rip off.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:37 pm Comment from: botox

Sadly, there are going to be millions of people with sheep mentality believe all the lies are true and buy into M$ crap about “innovation”.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:38 pm Comment from: dialtone

Having seen several of Gate's appearances in his whirlwind Vista rollout -- including The Daily Show w/Jon Steward -- I have to say I kinda like the guy more than I did before. Fatherhood and philanthropy seem to have mellowed him and brought out a more human dimension.

All the TV appearances are no doubt his last hurrah before bowing-out of Microsoft business for full-time foundation work.

Still, I'm not excited about Vista and agree with all of the above that it is 35 dog-years behind OS-X.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:39 pm Comment from: winmacguy

Doh! I found it on the lefthand side.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:39 pm Comment from: Think

Parental controls was able to be done in some ways in OS 9 using the MultiUser Control Panel. So that's even earlier.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:40 pm Comment from: Bartsimpsonhead

Bill certainly looked like he was in the hot-seat there.

But as the childrens rhyme goes... Liar, liar, pants on fire!

Jan 30, 07 - 02:42 pm Comment from: john

tongue wink Kinda difficult to explain the look isn't there Bill.
Thanks O'Brian for pointing out the obvious for those who don't see it or get it. Maybe now more people might as this gets around all the TV networks. Copying OSX isn't going to be the answer anymore Mr. Bill. Can't wait to see the look on his face when Leopard comes out.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:45 pm Comment from: Yours Smugly

There are actually two polls: one on the CNN main page and one (with three choices) in one of the articles.

Jan 30, 07 - 02:49 pm Comment from: Ernie

Like Vista, this guy is a remarkable dud. These appearances aren't a reflection of Gates' maturity or mellowing with age. He stopped giving a shit years ago and it trickled down through Mediocresoft.

The combination of poor posture, squirming, multiple "uhs" in every sentence and the inability to give a heartfelt answer to the "what's in Vista and why should I buy it" question—even when he's been asked it 20 times in the past 2 days—is shocking.

Yawn.

Jan 30, 07 - 03:01 pm Comment from: yet another steve via iPodDailyNews

To: Vista Commercial by Apple
Two thumbs WAY up.
ROTFL!

Jan 30, 07 - 03:07 pm Comment from: hotinplaya

thanks "your smugly"

I thought I was going wacky, I saw the 3 choice poll, and no one else did

thanks

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/01/30/vista.launch.ap/index.html

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