“There’ll be no Steve Jobs keynote, no gigantic Apple booth, and only about half as many exhibitors — roughly 220 vs. nearly 500 last year, according to Ars Technica,” Philip Elmer-DeWitt reports for Fortune.
“But IDG World Expo has determined that the show must go on — at least for one more year — and so from Tuesday Feb. 9 to Saturday Feb. 13, San Franciso’s Moscone Center will host the software vendors, accessory makers, iPhone developers, fanmag publishers, celebrity bloggers, AAPL investors and Mac faithful that are the Apple community,” Elmer-DeWitt reports.
Elmer-DeWitt’s five highlights:
• David Pogue, Thursday 9 a.m. PT
• Kevin Smith, Thursday 2 p.m. PT
• Leo Laporte, Friday 2 p.m. PT
• John Gruber, Friday 4:30 p.m. PT
• iPad discussion: Saturday 1 p.m. PT
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Thrilling. Wake us when it’s over or when IDG World Expo comes to their senses, whichever comes first.
Macworld 2010 is now a vestigial event. IDG is dragging around the corpse just like they did in New York and Boston. How long until IDG buries the poor, decaying thing this time?
MacDailyNews Note: 7:55am PT: There seems to be some confusion as evidenced by some of the reader feedback below. To clarify: We’re not saying don’t go. We’re not saying don’t support the companies that show up this year. We’re simply saying that we find it to be far less interesting and we wouldn’t rush to book plane tickets and hotel rooms for next year.
MacDailyNews Note: 10:05am PT: More clarification: Nobody loved Macworld Conferences and Expos more than us. “Loved,” past tense, as in: When there were real Macworld Expos. We will miss them, but since we have had over a year now to get over it, and they are an anachronism, please forgive us for not being maudlin today.
We’d rather see it dead than lingering too long; a pitiful, poorly-attended shell of what it once was.
Apple conducts localized mini Macworld Conferences and Expos every day of the year in hundreds of locations worldwide. More info: here.
Hey MDN, it’s still a Mac love fest, if you don’t like it don’t go. Jeez.
Yikes, MDN.
By that same measure, MDN is a complete waste of time because Steve Jobs isn’t personally addressing us. I thought MDN supported the Mac community.
I second silverhawk’s comment. Why bash the Mac centric shows. It’s all love, except form MDN.
Leo Laporte. lmfao. What, they couldn’t get Gilbert Godfreid?
I guess it’s true what some say…. MDN’s author is a snobby elitist. Sad
In a Windows centric world, surely every bit of effort to push the Mac ecosystem is worth it. Why knock them for giving Apple a bit of free promotion? If I was in range, I’d go to it.
And Jon’s right. What does MacDailyNews bring to the party that these guys don’t?
So…. iPad cases?
MacWorld is important despite Apple’s stupid decision not to support it. MDN’s author needs to wise up before MDN ends up on most peoples “do not view” site.
When exhibitors go from 500 to 220 – apparently most of the Mac community feels the same as MDN.
If Apple ain’t there – why bother?
Way to support the platform MDN.
@dirty pierre,
unless you work for the IRS, i’d say its Ives/Jobs world, we’re just livin’ in it.
Did someone mention me? KInda snarky MDN?
Apple is at the Expo incognito, at least some of the employees or their friends. They want to see the customers, the salespeople, the products, the buzz — even if Steve doesn’t sanction their attendance..
Apple should have a big display there even if there is no keynote. For the love of Tom, Dick and Mary, have a display with a couple hundred iPads.
“Fruitless” … the original iMac and iBook won’t be on display? What a let-down! Who would go to such a waste of time? Like going to a church that doesn’t have an ALTAR!
Anyway … thank you, MDN, for showing your elitist, butt-licking colors. It isn’t enough that Apple wins. It isn’t enough that Apple’s obvious enemies are crushed into the dust of the street. No. Anyone who lacks the Apple label must also be destroyed, crushed, rendered non-exitent, before your toadying will be satisfied.
Steve Jobs said “No MacWorld Boston” and MW moved back to NYC … where it was abandoned. Now he has decreed “No MacWorld (period)” and you roll right along with it. How sad that you and SJ think so little of the user community.
I always wanted to go to a Macworld. Now that I have the time and the resources to do so, Apple craps out of the proceedings.
Damn you Apple! Damn you to Hell!
Sorry, I was channeling Charlton Heston for a second there.
Wow. Pretty harsh MDN. Your “Take” is often quite biting, but it is disappointing to see those teeth turned on the loyal Mac community. The same community that visits your site, and when requested, donates to help you out.
I, for one, am attending.
Maybe Gruber will blather on about his stereotypical liberal ramblings. He may know some Mac stuff but he’s a retard when he posts his stupid politics shit.
Wow, MDN, biting the very hand that feeds you?
WTF?!
I thought you supported the Mac community, not just Apple Computer and their press releases.
MacWorld is an important place to go to meet all the major Mac vendors in one location.
In the spirit of your take:
“Hey everybody, stop visiting MDN beause it’s not Apple’s website! MDN is a snoozefest!”
There you go…..Apple and MDN kicking the independent developers in the teeth.
Hey brilliant MDN…How many of the zillions of applets available in the iTunes store are written by Apple?…How many are written by Independent developers? Maybe they need to write for Google…you know the guys that are showing them respect right now.
just my $0.02
Wow, I’m usually not only an Apple fanboy, but also an MDN fanboy. But this time, I have to echo the other comments. I was a bit surprised at the negativity. =|
What? No Enderle on the schedule?
MacDailyNews
where mac news comes first
Should read:
MacDailyNews
where elitist apple news comes first
Used to attend always when I could, was fun…
what’s with bashing of the show?
I’m inclined to agree with the consensus above, MDN is the one that is out of step here.
And now for some facts:
1. MacDailyNews was right about Macworld Boston w/o Apple.
2. MacDailyNews was right about Macworld NYC w/o Apple.
3. MacDailyNews is right about Macworld SF w/o Apple.
Look at the related articles. Throughout the years, MDN has been perfectly consistent in their Takes regarding Macworld Expos that lacked Apple’s participation.
There are very few, if any, bigger supporters of the Mac platform than the folks at MacDailyNews.
Yes MDN you really hit a low this time.
I get why Apple are not getting involved this time. They have better ways of promoting their products now. Plus they want to get away from the expectation of having to release products for the show.
But still there are large number of third party manufacturers that showcase their wares at the show. It’s a shame that this avenue is being dropped.
I would ask for an apology or plan to just stop reading your blog.
Journo,
That’s rather beside the point. The point is that MacWorld, like MDN, is an outlet for the Mac community.
So let me get this straight, mdn, it is bad thing to have a show highlighting mac products. It is bad that people are writing software for the mac and selling mac accessories.
We should make fun of folks supporting the mac.
We should be happy that one of the main venues for exposing people to new maccentric products might go away.
Mdn, does mdn stand for mac-using-dicknugget?
What kind of self defeating, self important piece of cock smegma expresses joy at such a thing?
Very simply, mdn you fucking suck and are the puckering asshole of the mac universe.
Change your take on this issue and prove me wrong, at least for today.
Why does MDN have to bash everything that’s not Apple? It’s still about the Mac platform you dumb, arrogant pricks!
You come off as extremely ignorant and your “takes” are just Apple propaganda.
Apple just increased the price of eBooks from 9.99 to closer to 15.00 why don’t you do a take on that from a consumer perspective?
When the media was full of “Apple Is Dead” articles, MacWorld was there to keep hope alive. It should continue forever as a celebration of The Best Platform Ever. Besides, it’s the opportunity for companies to show products that may never make it into an Apple Store. If I wasn’t dealing with family issues I’d be heading up on CalTrain right now. May try and go Saturday which is genius scheduling, so people in the education field can attend…both teachers & students.
Uh, actually this is a great consumer / user / Mac community show event.
It’s a great opportunity to meet developers and companies selling Mac products face to face! You learn so much.
Its’ good for the Mac community.
The DIFFERENCE between this show and the crappy old Boston and NYC shows etc, is that 1) we are IN CALIFORNIA, 2) near many developers in Silicon Valley, and 3) we don’t suffer from the old, right coast conservative mentality, atmosphere and climate, regarding tech and progress and new ideas. (I’m not referring to individuals, just regional vibe.)
You idiots are whining over MDN not supporting IDG World Expo, a company that exists to run trade shows.
IDG World Expo doesn’t give two shits about the Mac. They just want to sell overpriced tickets to events.
Morons.
Sorry. . . . Me too.
I would happily attend a Macworld as far away as100 miles. I think it’s vital for Apple to support the community. I thought that to be the real success of the iTunes Store.
I think Apple should support a traveling Macworld, so that us East Coast (and Middle America) people could have access to it.
I’m really tired of going into Bestbuy and Costco, and finding little or no support for Apple products.
It’s funny to read the comments from MacDailyNews’ old Macworld Boston and NYC articles. Some of the stupider ones bashing MDN look like they’ve been pasted above.
MDN is right, as usual.
Macworld Expo died last year. IDG just wants to sell one more round of high-priced passes.
I’d say you just proved yourself the Moron. We don’t care about IDG anymore than you do dumb fuck.
News Flash:
Every Trade Show exists to make money. This is news to you?
What we care about is a supposed supporter of the Mac platform openly bashes a Mac event solely because Apple is not attending.
And there’s more than just the show floor to Apple; there are classes and seminars on how to integrate Macs into the workplace (good for those switching from Windows), how to administer OS X networks, creating digital media, etc. The conferences are just as vital as the show floor; they offer the opportunity to stretch your Mac to the limits when you get home.
MDN = LAME
MDN is the only site that has this big of a witty sarcastic community of posters. Grant you, we’re all like a bunch of Junior High school aged nerds; but we’re fun loving.
“Fruitless pseudo Macworld snoozefest begins in San Francisco”
Fruitless in San Francisco?
Impossible.
I have to agree with the “chorus” on this one…
MDN: WTF were you thinking when you wrote this “take”? As a northern California resident I’ve been going to MacWorld Expo for years (20!). Yes, Apple’s withdrawal is a BIG disappointment and probably spells the death knell for this event. But MDN’s sourpuss take is totally antithetical to everything the Mac “culture” represents – putting power into the hands of computer users! Even without Apple the Expo gives Mac users/developers the opportunity to come together as a “community” in ways that internet communication can’t provide.
MDN, I would love to see a retraction to your take – it’s simply the right thing to do.
Wow
Philip Elmer-DeWitt and Leo Laporte
Apple supporters?
…excuse me if I don’t feel the love.
They (idg expos) should have let it die gracefully, now it is like an old boxer drug out into the ring one more time.
Sad really.
Thank you, MDN, for never pulling any punches and always telling it like it is (or at least the way you see it) without a drop of varnish.
Nobody is to blame except Macworld
The powers to be at Macworld decided to become the almighty what, when, how, where and how Apple and Jobs should conduct themselves.
Their continuous DISPARAGING criticism of the hand that feeds them came and bit them right back.
Their editorials became increasingly dictatorial in nature. Rather than offering constructive criticism, they became demanding. It wasn’t a suggestion, but a ‘change it’ or ‘else’.
Macworld appeared to support the ‘trollers’ and even the authors/management often belittled anybody with an opposing or positive ‘Apple’ view. A move that eventually caused the demise of what was once the most visited forum for the Mac. Today, getting more than a couple of handfuls of ‘replies’ at anytime is a miracle.
Then the editors decided to change their site. It obviously turned out downright ugly. It was like your neighbor tore down his house and replaced it with a Katrina Reject Trailer and surrounded it with used sandbags. It just stank and unfortunately it still does.
Imagine if every time you invited, even your best friend or boss to your home for dinner, and he continually berated your mother or wife, complained about the food, the menu and the dessert, harassed your kids, etc.…there is a point of no return.
And on that note, MDN could do themselves a favor and create a better feedback forum, e.g., much like Appleinsider, but hopefully one that is better moderated. One that centers out the trolls, strikethroughs erroneous statements, honors ‘freedom of speech’ with the proviso that you act ‘responsibly’.
If the internet is ever are going be respected, the concept that unilaterally trolling with lies and innuendos unchallenged, just doesn’t fly. Eventually lies like perceptions become realities. Even offering the best of fair, it is one dinner invitation that just gets turned down. Eventually, there is no one left to ask.
Geeze, MDN, you are starting to really turn me off of your site. Ever since you decided that you would be completely anti-democrat I have felt less and less compelled to come to this site. Now with this, you show just how snobby, and completely out of touch you have become.
Geez, MDN. It’s not like IDG moved the San Francisco Macworld Expo to a location against Apple’s wishes.
Apple likes to announce new products on its own now. That’s great. Macworld Expo is still a great opportunity to meet other vendors who DON’T have their own stores all over the place.
It will obviously be smaller, because a bunch of people who aren’t into being Mac professionals, aren’t Mac-using businesspeople, etc. won’t show up. However, it will still be great for all those who need Mac-related products IN ADDITION TO those made by Apple. I think Apple actually appreciates that, so don’t feel like you’re doing Apple a favor by dissing Macworld Expo.
Also, David Pogue is a great speaker – very entertaining. John Gruber knows his tech, likes Macs, and is generally an interesting person. The others . . . well, OK.
Put a fork in it..it’s DONE!!
MDN seems to hate Apple users. Yeah, Apple ain’t there, but the faithful must push on.
MDN, u suck.
I’ll be heading up to the city later this week for the show. I’m one of those nerdy guys that usually buys the $1,000 all week convention package but my company is cutting back so it’s just the show floor for me this year. Too bad this venue is winding down. I suppose we’re complicit in it’s demise, but serious technical information needed to support multiple Mac’s in the workplace is virtually impossible to find anywhere else. I can’t imagine struggling through the past migrations to Intel and OS-X/Unix without the Macworld convention. Talking to the other enterprise managers, consultants, and vendors allowed me to bring back real useful trick and tips which kept the Mac viable and the basher’s at bay for another year
MDN you just confirmed your elitism. I’m a huge Apple fanboy and MDN fanboy too but you just drank one shot too many of the Apple Kool-Aid.
MDN: You say: “We’re not saying don’t go”, but you go out of your way to call it a complete waste of time. Everybody knows that the show isn’t the same without Apple and Steve Jobs. But why go out of your way to slam the event?
Okay, . . . it looks like we’ve established that the IDG part of Macworld is not beloved. But it also appears that Macworld as a concept is actually needed.
Perhaps we should encourage Apple to develop something adjunct the the Apple Store chain that could travel America. This looks like an opportunity!
I know I’d go.
I think the guy who runs MDN is a noob to the Mac and he never attended any Mac trade shows. Otherwise he wouldn’t write such utter crap.
Calling the ONLY MAC TRADE SHOW useless.
MDN low on daily meds today?
Cheesssss
I’m not sure what all the fuss is about. MDN is right, Macworld without Apple is a bit lame. The event’s days are numbered. Lets accept it and move on. That doesn’t mean there is any less interest in Macs, it simply means that these Macworld events are throwbacks to years past, before the internet, Apple Stores, big WWDC events, etc.
MDN, you made a mistake.
Mac Users love Mac events just like they love Apple stores.
IDG World Expo has pissed off Apple it seems.
I do not blame Apple for backing out of MacWorld Expo.
But, Apple should put on Apple World in a number of places wordwide.
I have gone to MacWorld Expo for over 20 years and loved it.
Apparently so have a lot of other people.
You might be right about the expo but I will miss it if it ends.
Wow. This seems like a first.
@MDN, You suck, period. Don’t even support the Mac community. Why don’t you rename your site to SuckingApplesTit.com? All you care about is Apple, Inc.
Isn’t Macworld Paris still running, without Apple?
No MDN, I don’t think your readers are “confused” about your take. They understood it perfectly, and it appears that most of them don’t like it.
I don’t understand why MDN is doing its best to harm Macworld Expo.
This makes no sense on any level.
MDN you lack chivalry! Why deliberately aim a kick in the teeth of the very people who are your supporters.
Really Apple should have a presence there supporting those guys and gals that do so much to return the favour. Apple can afford it cant they! Attending does not really mean having to make big announcements nor having an over elaborate display.
Let’s see.
A site specifically addressing Apple/Mac news, picks up and links Apple stories to the full article and has an editor/manager/creator that is somewhat bias towards the hand that feeds him?
Not any different than any newspaper that I have ever read. Accept that it is free and obvious a lot of the trollers would not be here if they had to pay for it, even if it only cost a penny.
Why don’t you create a site called SuckAppleTit. Then you can wallow to your heart’s content.
MDN, you have sunk to new lows.
Your rhetoric has always been so feverish and hateful that it finally has backfired on your own followers. You really haven’t been helping people “Get a Mac” at all, more like driving them away with your propaganda.
Apple would be better off with MacWorld than with you.
MDN Take:
“Apple conducts localized mini Macworld Conferences and Expos every day of the year in hundreds of locations worldwide.”
Wow, MDN, are you out of touch with reality. It sure sounds like you’ve never attended a MacWorld Expo. MacWorld Expo gives me opportunities that simply aren’t available anywhere else. In my work I regularly use a dozen or more 3rd party software products. Over the years many of these vendors would show up at MacWorld and afford lowly “users” like myself the opportunity to talk face to face with these vendors – often with the software engineers/developers themselves! You cannot have the same experience through email, etc. The opportunity to get some knotty technical questions answered and even give them feedback that affected the course of their product development has been invaluable to me over the years….
I fully understand Apple’s reasons for pulling out of MacWorld Expo and I even share many of the concerns about IDG that have been voiced here, but for MDN to bad-mouth a once-a-year opportunity for Mac users all over the world to get together face-to-face with developers/other users is simply unfathomable… perhaps “despicable” is a better word.
Shame on you MDN!
MDN likes to ridicule damn near everything. Add that to their political comments and I am going to look elsewhere for mac oriented news. If a meeting of mac fanboys is not a positive thing to MDN then I could not disagree more. Please someone post a list of other sites that you prefer. I am ready to move.
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/links/
TUAW is the best one IMHO.
Ditching MDN.
bye mdn. it’s been real.
Tip for fellow MAC LOVERS
Just go to Google News and type in iPhone News or iPad News on a daily basis. That’s how 99% of mdn stories are located anyway.
Fruitless (no Apple) – √
Pseudo Macworld – √
Snoozefest – √
Begins in San Francisco – √
Exactly the facts. Just because you wish there was a Jobs keynote, don’t shoot the messenger.
MDN, don’t ever change a thing. You’re perfect just the way you are.
A friend emailed me this link:
http://www.macblogz.com/
When I’m old and living on a fixed income, no longer able to afford to snap up every new Apple gizmo that comes along, will MDN *insult* me for not being the rabid fanboy I am today?
*sheesh*
I guess I should unsubscribe from the RSS feed before that happens. No time like the present …
MDN. Face it. You blew it. But I forgive you because of your aggressive devotion to the platform and pit bull attacks on the Evil Empire.
I understand Apple’s decision to pull back from MacWorld. So, OK. No Apple. But there’s still all the third party vendors. I generally spend most of my time at MacWorld visiting these vendors. And look forward to doing so again this year. And despite your lame attempt to claim the Apple Store provides a MacWorld experience, that’s just not true. Third party sessions are not given at the Apple Stores.
An apology would be lame, so forget that. Just take your beating and let it pass.
Personally, I’d swap Macworld for a PageUp key that moves the cursor.
the original article from cnnmoney.com was not that bad. In fact THEY are going to be at Macworld (unlike MDN). MDN added all the bashing words like, “Fruitless”, “Snoozefest”, “Wake us when it’s over”, “vestigial event”, “bury the poor, decaying thing this time”, these are all works of MDN!
And then, after offending us, they belittle us by writing “please forgive us for not being maudlin today”
maudlin: tearfully sentimental, often through drunkenness
apology through sarcasm?
I’m deeply disappointed in MND. This USE to be a daily event for me, but I don’t feel like I can support them.
MDN iPhone app GONE
MDN bookmark GONE
Fruitless pseudo Macworld snoozefest begins in San Francisco
Headlines like this sure help promote attendance. /s
I’m a little bit disgusted by MDN’s take. We should be promoting Apple focused events (no matter how small).
How the heck can you say that the event is “fruitless” and “snoozefest” if you haven’t even seen what the vendors who actually showed up have to offer.
You can say what you want MDN, but your opinion is in the minority and it doesn’t represent Apple loyalists very well.
I too have attended nearly every Macworld in San Francisco. Before that I attended Applefest and even the West Coast Computer Faire. The passing of the computer “trade show” is a very sad phenomenon. The presence of Apple was to my mind a minor attraction. Much more important was the chance to talk to the other vendors. The chance to get hands-on time with software and hardware was invaluable. I know, I know. We have the internet. Doesn’t that provide all the information we can possibly need.
No. The Internet is often a poor venue for finding useful information. Too many vendor websites are frankly BS. Short on information and long on flash. (small f) I get frustrated by the number of websites that tease but don’t deliver any real information. Usually, the small vendors at Macworld would be the actual owner and/or programmer and the large vendors would bring a couple technical people among the horde of sales people you could corner and ask questions. I will miss the chance to talk to the people and make connections.
Having attended a number of Macworld conferences I can attest to the fact that without Apple and in particular Jobs’ doing the keynote, it is virtually a relative failure.
In the early days in Boston, you couldn’t hardly get through the massive crowds. The only way we had access to all the latest info was being there. With the advent of the internet, however, interest in or need for the Macworld Conferences waned significantly. And only till Jobs returned and presented his first keynote in 1997 did the landscape changed.
Last year as we know, Jobs didn’t do the keynote and basically from the get-go, i.e., the announcement that he wasn’t going to attend and that it would be Apple’s last show, the conference began to cave in.
Now we see major companies opting out. Hell, even Macworld has been amiss in promoting the event. It is not Macworld any more. It doesn’t represent Mac or Apple or Jobs. It’s a regional fair; it is more like a Mactown.
So who is going to be displaying. Well the Macworld lists the exhibitors on http://www.macworldexpo.com/expo which really doesn’t excite me. Perhaps if I were living in the west coast I would drop in, but having to fly in for it like I did in the the past, forget it. That and when you look to see who is missing, e.g., Adobe, Google, Logitech, Macally, Bare Bones, FileMaker, Ambrosia, Altsys, Aspyr Media, Berkely Systems, BIAS, Big Fish Games, Blacktree Software, Delicious Monster, MacroMind, Silicon Beach, Pangea Software, etc., I don’t feel that it is worth it.
Like MDN, I am not knocking the intent. It was the Mac fans that made Macworld work. And when you start crapping on the fans, you are not going to get support. It is Wacworld that dug its own grave. Now they can lie in it.
Wow, after reading the comments in this blog, it’s not hard to understand why the media refers to Apple fans as cultists, etc. Seriously people, get a life. Macworld without Apple is a snoozefest. Acknowledging that fact doesn’t mean you care any less about Macs or all things Apple. It’s just acknowledging reality. MDN is right on the money with this one and I applaud them for telling it like it is rather than pandering to a bunch of pseudo-religious cultists that vent in these forums.
I used to look forward to checking the MDN site daily for news. No more. I will get my Mac news elsewhere. This site is as boring as they describe the Expo to be. Pathetic. Really.
All those fans that loved Macworld so much, when was the last time you actually bought the magazine.
I still have a copy of the first edition and for years it was an compulsory subscription. But then the started writing articles that you would swear were authored by some of the ah’s here.
Anybody here going? Based on the noise, it looks like a lot of BS. And smells of the same naysayers that crawl here.
Without Apple, MacWorld is more like a zombie crawl. Cut its head off and move along.
MDN is really losing it… you criticize all the “desperate” claims by anyone you hate, but you’re making more and more of your own… one has to wonder???
This is getting more and more like a Glen Beck hatefest.
MDM is fast moving to the end of my list of must check sites… after MW, TUAW and MacRumors… soon to fall off the bookmark bar!
tom
OT: PoliTards will be offended!
tom O’Connell sez: “This is getting more and more like a Glen Beck hatefest.”
Indeed.
Of course it is inevitable that people get swept up in ‘The Spirit of the Age’, aka zeitgeist. That spirit in the USA is dead simple: Political Deceit, or as I call it: the Festival Of Deceit (FOD).
Sad to say MDN are have a strong streak of poliTardiness. Why they consider that professional behavior is difficult to imagine. On the other hand, the comments sections for each article have rarely been professionally oriented either. Basically, anything goes. It’s negative anarchy / berzerker behavior often enough that throwing in poliTardiness seems inevitable.
The remaining problem of course is that political discussion here is 100% non sequitur. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Mac Daily News. That’s why I like marking my political comments as ‘OT’, OFF TOPIC.
And yeah. I think it’s time I worked a little harder at finding my Mac news elsewhere. Shame.
Has anybody else noted the number of guys dissing MDN are the same trolls that usually dis Apple?
And talk about rats jumping ship, perhaps a read of Jim Dalrymple’s article, “Macworld Expo 2010: Success story or a disaster waiting to happen*” will help clear the air.
“As for the future of the show — I don’t hold out much hope. For the first time since 1996, I will not be attending the show. Instead, I’ll be at the NAMM music trade show covering news from those Mac developers.” Jim Dalrymple. Former Cheif News Editor of Macworld 1999-2009
*http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/01/04/macworld-expo-2010-success-story-or-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen/
P.S., For the 2 to 3 grand it would cost to fly to San Francisco plus a weeks food/lodging/entertainment, I could buy another Mac. And I don’t need anybody to advise me what model.
MDMac –
Relax, guy.
You said your point, which is fine, but then you came back again, again, and again. That’s just unhealthy knee-jerk defence of MDN which suggest this is your main gig.
As for the guys who are “dissing MDN” as you put it, it seems almost everyone, from the Trolls to the more seasoned past MacWorld participants, think this went too far.
I agree with them.
@MDmac
First of all, it will be quite a challenge for you to find a reasonably technically-savy person who is more enthusiastic and appreciative of Apple products than myself.
Secondly, MacWorld magazine and whether we subscribe to it or not (I do) has nothing to do with this issue.
Thirdly, 99% of the time I really enjoy the MDN Takes; they are usually both enlightened and entertaining (the major reason I visit here 20 times a day). Up to this point my only criticisms of MDN have been its unnecessary interjection of partisan politics into this forum, and a couple of times in the past where they made really thoughtless and inconsiderate “jokes” about individuals with developmental disabilities.
That said, in my view MDNs remarks here are totally out of place in a communication venue intended for Mac/Apple enthusiasts. In effect MDN is not only disparaging the MacWorld Expo event, but also disparaging those who chose to go to the “Snoozefest” this year. IMHO their comments are way off the mark and downright insulting.
I have supported Apple through thick and thin since 1986 and without the Mac “faithful” it’s possible Apple might not still be here today. So no die-hard Apple supporters = no Apple = no MDN.
Who knows what future fortunes may bring?… there might come a time when MDN wishes they had not pissed on this year’s MacWorld Expo and those who chose to participate in it.
Leave it to MacDailyNews to tell the unvarnished truth.
MDmac sez: “Has anybody else noted the number of guys dissing MDN are the same trolls that usually dis Apple?”
No I hadn’t! I certainly am one of those who has been criticizing MDN over the past year. Seeing as I’m a 3 star General in the Computer Warz who lost count how many anti-Apple trolls I have trampled over the past 15 years on the net, your question seems a bit obtuse to me. Perhaps you would like to rephrase it, or withdraw it all together?
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Macworld expo SF has been good for Apple. When Apple was teetering under the direction of chairman Gil, macworld continued to focus the mac community on all the great things you can do with a mac. When the focus shifted to ipods, Macworld was there. It gave Apple a natural free week of publicity to show their newest stuff and show it in its best light. I understand their decision, a thousand apple stores are like a thousand macworld expos that are open 7 days a week.
But there’s something to be said about concentration. I never left a macworld without new stuff that helped my business and my life, I often would see things there that became stategic plans and implementations days weeks or months later.
It is far easier to trust your purchase of something you have held in your hands and have talked to the engineers about than something you read about from an internet maven.
I’m going to macworld, and I hope it lives long and prospers with or without Apple’s official presence.
… And I guess I should add to my previous post, I have NOT criticized MDN regarding the moribund nature of MacWorld Expo. I mourn their inevitable passing just as they do. I LOVED MacWorld Expo over here on the east coast. That died years ago. I sobbed for days. (;_;)
As ever, please think out your statements folks before you make them. Trolls never will. That’s their nature. But the rest of us are capable of intelligent concepts.
@Big Als MBP: It was on my bucket list too. Too bad.
@TheDataDude
I also place myself in the same category, e.g., having bought my first Mac day one, 110 since and counting, develop, create, deploy, support and manage major solutions to some of the largest Fortune 500’s for the past 26 years.
Macworld magazine was the forerunner of the Macworld Conferences. Their book was my bible for years. It became part of my library and was even placed next to my Playboy Collection. You are right, it has nothing to do with this issue, but I should have asked, when was the last time anybody here even looked at the magazine or supported it or the organization in anyway. I blame the demise of the Macworld Conference, in part, because of the editorial stance they have taken against Apple in the past 3-4 years.
I too monitor MDN. My iPhone notifies me instantaneously throughout the day. I look at the headlines; if it interest me, i read the editorial. If it interests me, I read the full original text fully. I never make a comment until I have done so. My point has for the past few years, attended, presented, loved the event/contacts, despised the organizers, their editorials and anti-Apple/Mac attitude.
Believe it or not, I seldom read the comments of this or any other editor, just as I don’t give much thought for the opinions of the editors of the New York Times or The Washington Post. I prefer to read the news and draw my own conclusions.
Again, I would like to point out that even the staff, past and present, as well as the displayers are downplaying or outright demeaning the importance of the conference. I don’t see where MDN or its editor after reading his comments thoroughly is chastising those who wish to or are participating or attending it.
There are many products that will never make it to the Apple Store shelves…so to imply that the Apple Stores will be able to replace MacWorld is ludicrous. Will Apple Store employees be able to demonstrate the latest features of the new Adobe Creative Suite, or for that matter the potential Adobe-killer? And what about some of the new adaptive technologies than can help those who have lost use of their hand(s) to illness or injury? Most times in the Apple Store, I’m lucky if I can get near anyone to ask a question; good luck finding a machine with Dragon Naturally Speaking or any sort of adaptive keyboard on it, or even anyone able and willing to demonstrate the built-in accessibility features of the Mac OS.
@ Justme2
Unfortunately, Adobe has pulled out of the conference and Nuance isn’t there either.
The conference is down from 500 exhibitors last year to less than 200 this year.
A list of the exhibitors can be found here: http://www.macworldexpo.com/expo
Good luck.
Perhaps Apple should realize that the zealous folks who made MacWorld a success, are the same folks that made Apple a success. Arrogance is what has killed Microsoft. Arrogantly disregarded the loyal can backfire and Apple (Jobs) better wake up to the reality. A little gratitude goes a long way. The folks that do the MacWorld symposium deserve a lot of credit. Imagine where Apple would be without any MacWorld. Apple may have tired with trying to come up with a killer unit every MacWorld, however, nobody pushed them on this. It was essentially a come-together opportunity for many in the Mac community. It is shortsighted at best that Apple stopped supporting the events.
The beginning of the end was when they changed MacWorld Expo New York to MacWorld Expo Boston for no other reason than to line their pockets from the incentives that Boston promised them.
Thanks a lot for the post! I hope to read more from you!
American Eagle Gold
You know what, this is the last straw.
I’m sick of reading the arrogant remarks in the MDN “takes”.
I’ll get my news from elsewhere. There’s plenty of other places.