For students, Apple’s Mac OS X Leopard “will still be available for a deeper discount at school bookstores (usually around $69),” Scott McNulty reports for TUAW.
But, not online at the Apple Store, where the price will be US$116.
“The most obvious reason for this move is that Apple has no real way of knowing if you are, in fact, associated with an educational institution when you order online,” McNulty reports. “Most school bookstores require you to produce a school ID in order to make purchases of academically priced software, so Apple can be assured that you are, in fact, a poor student and not just cheap.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: First DRM-free iTunes Plus songs drop to 99-cents, then we find out that the iPhone will get its SDK, and now this! What’s next, matte screen options for iMacs? Final Cut Express renamed iMovie ’08 and sold for US$15.80? Steve Jobs putting five Golden Tickets hidden in iPod packages promising entry to One Infinite Loop’s secret subterranean labs? Even without those last three things, the Apple whiners and complainers are having one helluva bad week.
I wonder if it will be the same if you walk into an Apple store and produce proof that you qualify for the educational discount. That would be nice.
“The Apple whiners and complainers are having one helluva bad week.”
– I would say they are having one helluva good week. Sure, the Apple bashers might be having a bad week, but for the Apple fans who continue to hold Apple to the high standard that they are known for, weeks like these are considered a success.
“Even without those last three things, the Apple whiners and complainers are having one helluva bad week.”
HAHAHAHA!!!
So true. So true. What will people have to complain about once Leopard is released?
“My computer works too well!”
“God, how I pine for a Blue Screen of Death!”
“Can’t I reboot every couple of hours, please?!”
At lot of schools don’t have a “computer store” or at least an Apple part of their store, so those students, faculty, and staff, have to pay the $116.
” . . . the Apple whiners and complainers are having one helluva bad week.”
There really is no reason to be a whiner unless your week involved the phrases, “alleged unnatural acts”, “medical experts are baffled” and “according to witnesses at the scene”.
@ realist
The comment was directed at people who whine for the sake of whining, a group of people whose numbers are growing rather dramatically as of late. They are having a bad week because they have nothing to whine about (though I’m sure they’ll find something).
Greg M,
You can’t get an educational discount on software purchases at an Apple store, only hardware purchases. Don’t know why, but probably has to do with limits. There is none on software, but there is on hardware.
@rdf-b
STFU
Great, so now I gotta start bugging my school to start carrying Apple products…
Sorry, it’s not whining. What I see here at MDN is hysteria. The instant, knee-jerk, “Apple is the new Microsoft” crap at every half-bake rumor is pathetically sad. All the hysterical Chicken Littles need to take a chill-pill and wait for the pieces to fall into place. You may want everything Your Way and Right Now, but the real world doesn’t work that way, and you simply make yourselves miserable by expecting it to do so.
That Steve Jack is in fact the person who writes the “takes” for MDN
let it go about iMovie 08 Steve. You lost the argument.
Jay-Z,
That is why I made a distinction in my comment, a distinction that many here don’t seem to recognize.
” . . .I gotta start bugging my school to start carrying Apple products…”
START?
Shame on you. Shame, shame, shame.
hey, can I play too?
i pre ordered mine today. Whilst at uni, i was able to connect to the apple store for education, through the university wifi. Here’s the invoice summary from the conformation email:
Total: £ 50.00
Discount: -£ 22.34
VAT @17.50%: £ 8.75
Order Total: £ 58.75
So all happy!!
MW: University is the “place” to be!
“All the hysterical Chicken Littles . . .”
So, the iSky isn’t falling?
I don’t think our bookstore has educational prices, if so I’d better cancel my order!
Anyone know what will happen if I do a clean install of Leopard and use CCC will that lock me out of MS Office? I don’t have any more product keys. I hate using Office but I am a business student.
@ Dex — Not last time I looked.
correction: confirmation!
They don’t teach us anything useful these days!
MDN’s way of telling the pissers and moaners to crawl back into their holes and STFU already is very much appreciated by this reader. Good stuff!
I agree with Alpha-Glucosidase Inhibitor; I should start bugging my daughter’s preschool to begin selling Apple stuff already!
I hoep journeyed carries this deal because our school does not software from the bookstore.
Just my $0.02
You think market share and unit sales are on the increase now? Imagine if Jobs did that Golden Ticket thing with Macs!
This is crap…….They dont offer software EDU discounts in store, yet i can prove that I am a student with my ID……and this is the reason? i dont buy it, why give a student discount at all?
why not force people to log into the edu store with a .edu email address? or somthing. this is just bogus.
Pre-order at Amazon for $109
journeyed.com
yeah, haven’t heard much Apple-bashing from Enderle lately. he must be struggling to fabricate something.
587 new reviews, by people who purchased iLife 08, and have a .Mac account. Not trolls, not MS astroturfers, but actual Apple customers.
The number of reviews does not increase much because Apple keeps rotating off reviewers hoping that the count will turn positive. It wont. The current length a review stays on the Apple store concerning iLife 08 is less than a week.
If anyone would care to look, you’ll see that the majority of the negative comments toward iLife 08 stem from strong negative reaction to the dumbing down of iMovie. The rest of the iLife 08 suite scores well with customer satisfaction.
Any reasonable person will look at iMovie 08, and compare it to iMovie HD and see that it is a serious loss in features.
Arguments to the contrary, claims of it costing $15.80, and other musings are specious at best. Name calling people who point out the negative consequenses of the retrograde product just goes to prove that opinion on Apple products from this site needs to be carefully considered and not taken at face value.
The simple fact is that the current iMovie 08 is a drag on sales of iLife 08, and a poor reflection on how Apple treated this product and it’s customers.
@”iLife 08 still only 2.5 stars out of 5 at the Appl “
way to be on topic!
@eMax
From MDN’s take, in case you didn’t read it.
“Final Cut Express renamed iMovie ’08 and sold for US$15.80? Steve Jobs putting five Golden Tickets hidden in iPod packages promising entry to One Infinite Loop’s secret subterranean labs? Even without those last three things, the Apple whiners and complainers are having one helluva bad week.”
This is one of the reasons I’m glad I work at a university that has an actual computer store on campus! Can’t wait.
And the campus store keeps track of what you buy because the University really does have an agreement with Apple that allows you to only purchase one of any particular software item. Ever. Helps keep people from buying 15-20 copies of iThis or iThat the first day it’s released and re-selling it on eBay…
Oh, and hardware? You can buy a new Mac and get the education discount every 12 months, if you wish.
That’s not a bad price. People can be so tetchy these days! ‘I want what I want right this second or I’ll never buy anything from your company again!’ There’s a lesson in patience, children.
“MacDailyNews Take: First DRM-free iTunes Plus songs drop to 99-cents, then we find out that the iPhone will get its SDK, and now this”
1. First DRM-free iTunes Plus songs drop to 99-cents.
Yes, So iTunes pricing can be seen as remaining competitive after Amazon delt them the blow of offering DRM free music for less.
2. Shen we find out that the iPhone will get its SDK
Again, so that Apple may remain competitive with the corporate customer with the likes of RIM in providing developers the ability to develop NECESSARY mobile business solutions.
3. …And now this!
Umm, and now what? Education pricing has been $69 for ALL of Apple’s OSX releases.
iMovie 08/Final cut express. Ha ha.. Nice try Steve Jack.
@MDN: Excellent take! And yet, they still complain.
OK but what if you show your Academic transript at the applestore with current dates and enrollment/ and u’re ID. Would they give you the price drop there with that info?
If so, how about purchasing multiple copies at that price, or is it for 1 purchase only?
iMovie 08 is much better. you want something with more crap, get Final cut express.
Jesus, let it go.
What if you school, like mine, doesn’t have a university bookstore?
Does anybody know if the Family Pack is offered at an education price as well?
Wow, I guess that I am lucky that I am in a single class this semester for a specific thing – otherwise I wouldn’t have been a student. I hope my rinky dink community college has it on the shelf soon after release.
I’m in my last year at Columbia College Chicago and I’m sure gonna miss the discounts. I recently got Logic Studio Acedemic for $149. Even though it’s not upgradeable, it’ll be years until their next release. Money well spent.
Well crap! I just went in to the bookstore and they only carry various flavors of MS Office (Mac included) and Vista! I will find a way, oh yes, I will find a way.
For Dark Side of the Moon:
I recently ordered iWork and iLife ’08. I was told that we could either order the individual education pack, or else the family pack — but no education family pack. I assume it’s a general policy, so don’t expect Leopard in educational family pack.
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“educational family pack”
your whole family is in school?!?
MDN
I think you are going to have to use a lighter and thinner line !!!
It’s not good sportsmanship to play with these minnows, like you do, on a Barramundi line.
I can purchase Apple hardware online with an education discount, so why not software as well? It is ridiculous that Apple would require one to verify their education bona fides at a university retailer before purchasing a discounted OX S when you can purchase discounted Apple hardware directly online by simply pressing a button “confirming” eligibility.
Besides, not all campuses have Apple stores on site. Are you implying, McNutty, that these students and faculty are screwed?
Check out http://www.JourneyEd.com . Awesome prices for students and educators.
All the pissers and moaners at MDN constantly whining about other pissers and moaners really gives me a chuckle. Thanks guys!
Oh, and thanks Allan, for one of the few constructive posts on here tonight regarding JourneyEd.com.
That will shut up all the people complaining a few days back about the edu price not being as good as before. We all need to be patient and wait for Apple to roll out all the deals.
What a big pile!!! I’ve been buying online from Apple with my education discount for years. In order to get the account you have to prove you work for an educational institution. I ordered Leopard online because I’m using my $100 iPhone rebate. But saying that the price is higher online because they can’t prove you work in the education field is crap!
I am the cheap guy they are writing about.
Oh, well.
Better cheap than poor.
Way to stick it to ’em, MDN. I too am glad that the whiners have been shut up. BTW, whining is not “holding Apple to a higher standard” thing. Geez, what a bunch of self-justifying gnat-swallowing navel-gazing tiny men. And the saddest thing is that you’re completely unaware how small you look and how despised your actions are. Blindness, thy name is “Mac whiner”.
MDN: Apple whiners and complainers are having one helluva bad week.
Quite the opposite. Those of us who criticize Apple’s bad and disappointing moves & products are not trying to denigrate Apple, but rather hope to spur improvement and remedy. As they provide these improvements and remedies, we are pleased, not thwarted.
My new favorite thing: emacs -batch -l dunnet
Mac Owner, Mac Whiner, same thing.
@Dextroamphetamine
You are both right AND funny.
Thanks!
What’s with two people advertising JourneyEd? It doesn’t even *list* Leopard, and their price for Tiger is $140 for a single license, no academic proof required. Or is my school just “special”? For the amount of tuition I pay, it better not be.
And of course, we have no computer/software sales on campus. I guess I’ll be getting a friend at Apple to wave their ID for me once Leopard comes to their campus store (at least I’ve got living in Silicon Valley going for me there…)
I finally found a place to purchase online for $69 (plus shipping). http://www.universitycomputers.com/ePOS?this_category=20&store=210&item_number=520E-44-MB021&form=shared3/gm/detail.html&design=210
I hope this helps the rest of you.