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Another iPod+iTunes FUD article keeps the disinformation flowing
Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:49 AM EDT

"Like millions around the world, you have an iPod, the market-leading digital music player made by Apple Computer Inc. and have spent perhaps a few hundred dollars buying songs from the company's iTunes music store. But do you really own the tunes? Whether you do, however, depends on how you define ownership," Duncan Martell reports for Reuters. "Those songs you bought online from Apple play just fine, of course, so long you do so on the company's iTunes digital jukebox software, on an iPod, burn a CD (you can only burn the same 'playlist,' or collection of songs, seven times), or stream them wirelessly to your stereo using another Apple gizmo. But Apple's FairPlay digital rights management, or DRM, software prevents you from listening to those purchased songs on a music player from Dell Inc., Creative, Sony, or others. The same thing goes for songs you've imported to your computer from CDs you already own."

MacDailyNews Take: Misleading and incorrect. You can burn any song purchased from the iTunes Music Store to music CD an unlimited number of times. A specific iTunes playlist containing a protected track can be copied to a CD up to seven times before the playlist must be changed. Songs that you've imported into iTunes from CDs that you already own are not encoded with Apple's FairPlay DRM. As songs can be imported into iTunes using AAC, AIFF, MP3, WAV, and Apple Lossless, any player or application that supports any of those formats will play such tracks without a problem.

Martell continues, "To be sure, Apple rivals have their own DRM technology to protect against piracy, such as Sony Corp. and Microsoft Corp., but none have been as successful so far as Apple. The Cupertino, California-based company has a 70-percent market share in the United States for digital music players, and higher than that for music purchased online. Beyond just having songs you bought from iTunes 'trapped' on the iPod and in iTunes, it's also not a snap to move songs from an iPod - whether you bought them or initially pulled them off a CD - back up to a computer. While it's possible to do so, Apple doesn't make it easy, right off the bat, because it's trying to discourage piracy."

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "schreiber" for the heads up.]

MacDailyNews Take: Only Apple's iTunes works for both Mac and Windows PC users. The also-rans music services offer only Windows-only DRM from Microsoft. Again, the song purchased from iTunes Music Store is not "trapped" on the iPod and iTunes; it plays on Motorola phones and can also be burned to music CD and used anywhere. If you wish to go from iPod to computer, first blame the music labels for not allowing Apple to offer that feature, and then go download something like iPodRip (one among many) to accomplish the task.

We can play iTunes Music Store-purchased songs on Macs, Windows PCs, iPod models for every budget, Motorola phones, and burn them to CDs to play in CD players or import into other computers and/or music players. If we join a subscription service or use another à la carte service (Windows-only) with some "soon-to-be-discontinued, won't-intgrate-with-my-vehicle, has-no-accessories, parent-company-is-hemorrhaging-cash or reorganizing" digital media player, do we get less lock-in or more?

This article is backwards, misleading, and outright incorrect in places. Martell should do better (or some) research next time. If he had, he'd realize that Apple's iPod+iTunes is the least "limiting" legal solution available. All of the other online music services are Windows-only, offer smaller libraries, fewer exclusives, no video, etc., and work only with inferior also-ran devices. Why does the fact that Apple's competitors have failed miserably make them magically immune from Martell's criticism? If Martell's so hell-bent on writing about not "owning" songs, he really needs to check out any of the subscription plans offered by the likes of Napster, Real, etc.

Readers should ask themselves what's the point of this article? Who is it really intended to serve? Certainly not consumers of digital media players and/or online media. So who really benefits from an article that's laden with mistakes and misleading statements about Apple's FairPlay DRM? Answer that one honestly and perhaps we'll be closer to understanding the point of writing and publishing it.

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May 14, 06 - 01:55 pm Comment from: Funky Dunky

MDN: "Readers should ask themselves what's the point of this article?"

To troll for hits, possibly. But probably more so to inculcate the drone masses against Apple's solutions.

MDN: "Who is it really intended to serve?"

The author, his employer, and the Microsoft hegemony. In that order.

But it's not working. Thankfully.

May 14, 06 - 01:57 pm Comment from: Auctoris

With all of these blatantly false Apple articles coming out recently, it's difficult not to be conspiracy minded (i.e. Microsoft). However, I keep reminding myself of the saying, "Never attribute to malice what can be accounted for by stupidity."

May 14, 06 - 02:04 pm Comment from: andy

MDN, do you email the writers of the articles you comment on? if not, you sooo should lol.

May 14, 06 - 02:06 pm Comment from: flappo

fsck those cunts

May 14, 06 - 02:08 pm Comment from: Rico

What do you expect when his quotable source is Rob Enderle?
At the end of the article he does indicate that the limitations are the fault of the rights holders and labels. You do have to wade through a lot of FUD first.

May 14, 06 - 02:24 pm Comment from: qka

The article quotes everyone's favorite village idiot, Rob Enderle.

Garbage In, Garbage Out.

Don't blame the author, just his sources.

May 14, 06 - 02:28 pm Comment from: JoeB1

You people are idiots. The article is a commentary on the reality of DRM and its restrictions. Pick your flavor...they all limit choice and thats the reality. Apple just happens to not taste as bad.

May 14, 06 - 02:40 pm Comment from: Nick

thanks for the continuing great news article links, MDN.

May 14, 06 - 02:50 pm Comment from: Nick

"But Apple's FairPlay digital rights management, or DRM, software prevents you from listening to those purchased songs on a music player from Dell Inc., Creative, Sony, or others. The same thing goes for songs you've imported to your computer from CDs you already own."

Actually the first part is true - unless you rip the purchased songs to a CD and then import them as mp3 (degrading sound quality), iTunes purchases won't play on non-Apple music players.

The second statement is obviously an error - this article writer simply didn't get the facts straight.

Again, this article only serves to get people arguing; it provides no information or news about Macs, and hardly belongs in a "daily news" page.

May 14, 06 - 02:55 pm Comment from: macromancer

"You people are idiots. The article...."

Nice way to start off your comment.

No the article is critical of Apple and their DRM scheme, and he uses false information to support his argument. Never has iTunes put DRM on a song that's been ripped from a CD. Thats a pretty glaring error.

Ok, now apparently, I can go back to being an idiot now according to you.

May 14, 06 - 02:57 pm Comment from: macromancer

"Again, this article only serves to get people arguing; it provides no information or news about Macs, and hardly belongs in a "daily news" page"

I'd like to see MDN post only articles when Apple releases a product. It would be fun to see then how many people would bitch about how MDN never updates their site with new content.

Bottom line, if you don't like the site, why come here? If you don't like an article, why read it. Just move on.

May 14, 06 - 03:08 pm Comment from: Bill -- the friend from the Reuters' reporter

Hey, the guy from Reuters who wrote this article is my friend.

If you send him a polite email explaining why you might disagree with his point of view -- he'll reply politely to you too.



See for yourself, and remember -- you be polite so he'll be polite too.

Duncan's friend,

Bill

May 14, 06 - 03:23 pm Comment from: iPodluvr

Hell, I was wondering why the FUDsters were ignoring the Mac's awesome little buddy of late, was feeling a little left out I was. Anyway... it's a beautiful day around here dudes, so don't hate me for logging off to go for an afternoon skate. Needless to say my iPod's charged and loaded, and ready to rock my butt on down the trail, with visions of new iBooks and red iPods dancing in my head! So suck it!:
Vista
Microsoft
Dell
T'rott
Donut Boy
Monkey Boy
Who flung Woo?
and the rest of you Chumps (yeah, you know who you are).
In about that order too...

Peacehat!

May 14, 06 - 03:23 pm Comment from: A$$H@LE

Yeah right.
Duncan Martell's friend: The Billage Idiot?

May 14, 06 - 03:27 pm Comment from: pbs

Actually, eMusic has the most liberal DRM of any of the other online music stores. As the #2 store, they get little press on macdailynews, but they have a great selection and interesting business model.


Of course, the bozo writing this article wouldn't know this from a complete absence of simple research. Can these guys even do a simple google search before writing an article? Damn.

May 14, 06 - 03:41 pm Comment from: liquidr

It's great to read the rebuttals on MacDailyNews for the blatant lies about Apple's products.
The problem is that most of the people that read those articles will never get to see the real story. MacDailyNews and the other Apple information sites need to find a way to get their rebuttals and the truth on the mainstream information outlets. Otherwise these myths and lies will only continue to grow.

May 14, 06 - 03:49 pm Comment from: Hywel

I've bought a few things from iTMS (because I was given a £15 iTMS Voucher), and while the purchasing is blissfully, almost dangerously, simple, actually using the music outside iTunes and iPod is a pain. Has anyone tried using non AIFF in Final Cut ? It sounds terrible. Can't convert protected AAC to AIFF without wasting money on a CD blank, reimporting, and having to type/C&P;the damn name of the song in again.

Also, I bought a radio show recently, and there's nothing on iTMS to warn about the seriously low quality. The normal rate is fine, but this was 32kbits mono. That might even be OK for speech, but this show has a lot of music throughout. While it was quite a lot cheaper than the CDs, honestly, I feel ripped off by the quality. It's also 6 episodes over 3 hours in 2 files, the first being 1:50, which most certainly doesn't fit on one CD when burned from iTMS. So it just splits at an inconvenient point in the middle of an episode. In short, it sucks.

So really, while some people might be happy with iTMS, I will continue to advise against it and suggest buying real CDs instead, which will be owned rather than rented long term. iTMS is not buying a tangible product, it's buying non-transferable license. You can't sell it if you want to, or worse, if you find you need to.

OK. There are mistakes in the article which is suggesting that iTMS/Fairplay is worse that the competition, and that's just plain wrong. iTMS is better than the competition (unless you include CDs), but Fairplay is just as bad.

Buy from iTMS and you've been conned by The Man.

May 14, 06 - 04:00 pm Comment from: macaholic

Why all the Apple hate and FUD? Year after year, the same crap. I just don't understand why it persists. Hard to believe in conspiracies, but some things do make you wonder!

May 14, 06 - 04:17 pm Comment from: motorhead1

Hey flappo!

Great response on Mothers Day!

Been watching Deadwood??!!

May 14, 06 - 04:19 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

flappo said fsck those cunts

While I don't believe that's an entirely useful thing to have said, and it definitely sets a negative tone, it would have been one of the more positive comments on the talk-back to the article on the site I first read it. There were comments that were:
- anti-Apple
- anti-semitic
- anti-iPod
- opposed to the purchase of music
- just plain and pointless spleen-venting

We have our trolls here, and a few comparative hotheads, but overall a fairly civil group. When a comment like this from macaholic rates as edgy ... Why all the Apple hate and FUD? Year after year, the same crap. ... you know things are not out of control. And not everyone here drinks the Kool Aide leaking from the famed "Jobs Reality Distortion Field©".

May 14, 06 - 04:28 pm Comment from: Colonel Panic

Macaholic, FUD is real. It is fabricated by those with their own agenda.

May 14, 06 - 04:33 pm Comment from: AlanAudio

Reuters have written a number of false or misinformed stories about Apple products and those stories then get reprinted all over the world as fact.

Reuters were the people who claimed as a fact that Apple had announced a $100 iPod when what they were actually announced a couple of days later was the iPod mini. As a result, people were very disappointed that Apple failed to produce the $100 iPod that they had been led to expect. Reuters' fictitious story was copied extensively printed as though it were true.

Reuters is a company that was once reputable, but clearly isn't any more. There are other stories unrelated to Apple where Reuters appear to have invented things to make a story more interesting.

May 14, 06 - 04:42 pm Comment from: Steven P.

RELEASE THE ZEALOTS!!!

PLUS, THE RAII ARE GREEDY!

WE WILL OVERCOME...

May 14, 06 - 04:49 pm Comment from: Ampar

After so many of these carbon copies of literal dysentery, shouldn't each <i>writer<> be accused of plagiarism? And the monotonous repeat offenders are serial plagiarists. "Hey, look at that. My vomit looks exactly like yours. We must've swallowed the same garbage."


MW: research - dig the irony

May 14, 06 - 05:29 pm Comment from: Bill

Just let Duncan know what you think of his article



Duncan's former friend,

Bill

May 14, 06 - 06:25 pm Comment from: Reality Check

You're in a prison cell cheering on the guard; forever betting there will never ever be a better place to live.

I agree with the above poster, you people ARE idiots.

May 14, 06 - 06:46 pm Comment from: Jay

MDN is wrong to say that iTunes has the least restrictive DRM of any legal online musioc source. Emusic is 100% and completely free of DRM. Import, copy, burn, export, edit, share do whatever you want with it, or at least every thats legal to do with a CD. And it's cheaper than iTunes, especially if you buy a lot of music. As in most places buying in bulk saves. check it out. I love apple and itunes but I just want to be trusted to decide what's right and wrong to do with my music.

May 14, 06 - 06:55 pm Comment from: G Spank

"Apple doesn't make it easy, right off the bat, because it's trying to discourage piracy."

NO SHIT, SHERLOCK.

This article is nothing more than a baby whining.

May 14, 06 - 07:37 pm Comment from: neomonkey

Can't convert protected AAC to AIFF without wasting money on a CD blank, reimporting, and having to type/C&P;the damn name of the song in again.

Hello? Never heard of Wiretap or Audio Hijack? I expect something this misleading from Enderle, but are Mac users getting as stupid as Windows users?

May 14, 06 - 07:39 pm Comment from: Connor MacBook

"Why all the Apple hate and FUD? Year after year, the same crap"

When Apple was the underdog there was FUD. Now that it's top dog there's FUD. Face it, people feel threatened by cool.

May 14, 06 - 07:52 pm Comment from: macaholic

people feel threatened by cool.

Especially when they aren't I guess

May 14, 06 - 09:01 pm Comment from: R

If I buy a movie ticket at a Cobbs theater, why can't I walk over and use it at Regal?

May 14, 06 - 09:13 pm Comment from: Hywel

Hello? Never heard of Wiretap or Audio Hijack? I expect something this misleading from Enderle, but are Mac users getting as stupid as Windows users?

Right. And how fucking long is that going to take for a 45 minute album ? 45 fucking minutes! I really want to pay for more software to allow me to rip that audio in real-time to circumvent the DRM. That's real progress right there. I might as well be sampling the song from vinyl. You can try to justify iTMS as much as you want. Re-sale value on iTMS songs is ZERO. It's only more convenient at the purchasing stage, after that, regardless of whether it's the best and most fair DRM out there, it's still DRM, and DRM sucks for consumers.

May 14, 06 - 10:39 pm Comment from: Monkey in a Track Suit

Baby Huey vs The Dauphin

by digby


They really didn't need to do this poll on whether Clinton outperformed Bush. It's obvious to anyone who lived through the era. What the story fails to mention is that Clinton outperformed Bush while fighting off the rabid, slavering GOP congress of Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott that was determined not only to thwart his program but used every institutional lever of power they had to destroy him personally. He wasn't perfect, but the guy had the most amazing grace under pressure I've ever seen. He even showed good humor about it most of the time:

"I'm a lot like Baby Huey. I'm fat. I'm ugly. But if you push me down, I keep coming back."


Bush by contrast has had a free hand. He had an historical moment that could have brought the country and the entire world together --- which he decided instead to use as an opportunity to aggressively assert arrogant partisan and American power. Rather than being a "uniter not a divider" as he promised in the campaign, he roared into office with his one vote majority and treated the Democrats like lackeys, behaving as if he had a mandate to enact the most extreme items on the GOP agenda. He used patriotism as a bludgeon to intimidate all dissent against his inexplicable war with Iraq. At every turn he behaved with insolence and hubris and his failure has been manifest. Now he lives in a bubble, wandering around dazed and confused about what is happening to him --- which is not the result of Democratic partisanship, I might add, but rather the assessment of the American people. (The Democrats were paralyzed during most of his term.) Perhaps that's why his fall has been so steady --- the slow realization among the people that being a leader takes more than a manly swagger and a down home accent.

Bill Clinton may have been an imperfect human being but he was a president. This guy is, and always was, just a brand name in a suit.

May 14, 06 - 11:11 pm Comment from: R

Wow. I haven't heard such a well written tirade before! And one that seems to forget so much history and focus only on two men.

Consider me enlightened.

May 14, 06 - 11:39 pm Comment from: 不错哦

不错哦,但是很多的时候我是想 os x 和 win xp 一起用,我想 在os x 上运行 xp 的程序应该是 另一个 很好的选择哦。再说 os x 也是苹果电脑吸引人的一部分。

May 14, 06 - 11:39 pm Comment from: Nick

<<"Again, this article only serves to get people arguing; it provides no information or news about Macs, and hardly belongs in a "daily news" page"

I'd like to see MDN post only articles when Apple releases a product. It would be fun to see then how many people would bitch about how MDN never updates their site with new content.>>

Straw man arguments are what forum retards do best.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

May 14, 06 - 11:40 pm Comment from: Spark

One can also open an ITUNES purchased song in iMovie (free with Macs) and export the music as .mov file which can be imported into Final Cut Pro. A nuisance I admit, but a free method of using the DRM protected songs. All's fair as long as your FCP project isn't for commercial use.

May 15, 06 - 01:25 am Comment from: A. C. Doyle

"Nature abhors a vacuum, Watson, and it is obvious to the astute observer that Duncan Martell has filled the space formerly occupied by that Napoleon of brine, the sometimes late and always unlamented, Professor Robert Enderle."

"Surely not, Holmes!" I ejaculated, not a little surprised. "Martell is a journalist for a highly respected news-gathering agency. Enderle is a much more devilish creature, whose wild meanderings on the Inter-Web keep his name first and foremost on any decent citizen's list of proscribed authors."

"Ah, Watson. Always the naif," he replied in his languid manner that to a stranger would convey the image of perfect torpidity but which I knew disguised his true demeanor.

"No," he continued as he retrieved from the mantlepiece the Persion slipper from which he filled his most evil-smelling pipe with tobacco from the Persian slipper, "I can feel the faint tremblings of a delicate web of deceit being spun by his fingers on the keys of the instrument he employs in his communications with the great masses of an undiscerning public. He is well on his way to surpassing Enderle, invoking the professor's name merely to taunt those who realize the Gates-Ballmer axis of evil is spreading its wealth to him, as well. But his doing so suggests the Enderle reign of malevolence may be drawing to a close, that perhaps the public recognizes Enderle for what he is and that a new name and, perhaps, photograph, must rest atop the not thin tissue of printed lies the beast must generate daily to stay alive."

"Then we should give thanks for small miracles, Holmes."

"You can if you wish, Watson," he said, stifling a yawn. "But if my deductions prove correct, we have merely exchanged one propagandist for another. I would rather we stuff him up."

"Stuff him up?" I asked incredulously. "With what? When?"

"Why, with my shoe, Watson. As to the rest, be patient. The time will come."

"But where, Holmes, where?"

"Alimentary, my dear Watson, alimentary."

May 15, 06 - 02:16 am Comment from: Brit

motorhead1: HBO have just cancelled Deadwood after series 3. Upside: the language might improve around here (but who cares?); downside: they just spiked some of the greatest TV of all time - and I speak as a native BBC user. Shame on you, HBO!

(Sorry this is OT)

May 15, 06 - 02:32 am Comment from: Harry

MDN : iTMS, unlimited CD copies is not thrue: 7 x you can rip of.

May 15, 06 - 03:26 am Comment from: nkbjk kjk

http://www.mediamac.dk is my favorite site smile

May 15, 06 - 03:48 am Comment from: Hywel

Spark: One can also open an ITUNES purchased song in iMovie (free with Macs) and export the music as .mov file which can be imported into Final Cut Pro. A nuisance I admit, but a free method of using the DRM protected songs. All's fair as long as your FCP project isn't for commercial use.

Thanks for the tip (and for mentioning that it's a nuisance). I'll try that if there's a next time.

And yes. Just to confirm, this is for non commercial use.

May 15, 06 - 09:18 am Comment from: Macgravy

And don't forget to check out this FUD toooooo....a compete repeat of all that has been said before in one article.....<http://www.smartmoney.com/10things/index.cfm?story=june2006>.....the author must have needed something for the magazine so the paycheck would come.....

May 15, 06 - 10:25 am Comment from: motorhead1

Brit,

"downside: they just spiked some of the greatest TV of all time - and I speak as a native BBC user. Shame on you, HBO!"

I could not agree more! What a shame. It would be nice if it stayed in production for download. I might actually pay for that show! In fact I am!

If I had to choose between Deadwood and Sapranos..... Deadwood! No contest!

May 15, 06 - 10:34 am Comment from: Jim J

Harry,

First off, it is burn not rip. Rip = you are importing songs from a CD. Burn = putting songs from iTunes onto a CD.

Second MDN is correct, you are only limited in the number of times you burn a single play list, for example if you have 10 songs all from the same album, you can only burn them in that order 7 times.

If you change the order, thus creating a different play list you can burn them 7 more time.

OR you could use a single song by an artist in 100 different play list mixes.

The reason the restriction is on the number of times you can burn a play list is so pirates can't buy an album in iTunes and make enough CD burns to make it profitable to pirate.

If you want to verify this you could do what I did and look up DRM in the iTunes help file.

May 15, 06 - 03:45 pm Comment from: ©

Check this Wiki article about Jon Johansen (see other projects section) This guy continues to crack every DRM scheme that comes his way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lech_Johansen

He's currently hard at work cracking the new AACS DVD DRM. I am NOT condoning piracy. I find his story quite fascinating. Just info and an interesting read..........

May 15, 06 - 06:23 pm Comment from: MacRaven

Ticks me off when I go to VH1 or FOX Sports and BOTH sites have their heads up Micro$ofts ass and NONE of the video will work on a Mac. Now tell me WHO is blocking cross platform use there. And I don't see ANYONE forcing a difference!!

May 16, 06 - 06:54 pm Comment from: Retarded

Jim J, I guess pirates are too retarded to burn the CD once then copy the CD, or get thousands of copies of it pressed?

DRM is targeted at the casual sharer not the dedicated pirate.

Lets face it, if anyone's going to pirate things big time, they're going to go with the full quality CD as a master rather than the crappy sounding iTunes version.

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